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The Trump administration is resuming its efforts to deport certain protected Vietnamese immigrants who have lived in the United States for decadesmany of them having fled the country during the Vietnam War.

This is the latest move in the presidents long record of prioritizing harsh immigration and asylum restrictions, and one thats sure to raise eyebrowsthe White House had hesitantly backed off the plan in August before reversing course. In essence, the administration has now decided that Vietnamese immigrants who arrived in the country before the establishment of diplomatic ties between the United States and Vietnam are subject to standard immigration lawmeaning they are all eligible for deportation.

The new stance mirrors White House efforts to clamp down on immigration writ large, a frequent complaint of the presidents on the campaign trail and one he links to a litany of ills in the United States.

The administration last year began pursuing the deportation of many long-term immigrants from Vietnam, Cambodia, and other countries who the administration alleges are violent criminal aliens. But Washington and Hanoi have a unique 2008 agreement that specifically bars the deportation of Vietnamese people who arrived in the United States before July 12, 1995the date the two former foes reestablished diplomatic relations following the Vietnam War.

The White House unilaterally reinterpreted the agreement in the spring of 2017 to exempt people convicted of crimes from its protections, allowing the administration to send back a small number of pre-1995 Vietnamese immigrants, a policy it retreated from this past August. Last week, however, a spokesperson for the U.S. embassy in Hanoi said the American government was again reversing course.

Washington now believes that the 2008 agreement fails to protect pre-1995 Vietnamese immigrants from deportation, the spokesperson, who asked not to be identified by name because of embassy procedures, told The Atlantic.

The United States and Vietnam signed a bilateral agreement on removals in 2008 that establishes procedures for deporting Vietnamese citizens who arrived in the United States after July 12, 1995, and are subject to final orders of removal, the spokesperson said. While the procedures associated with this specific agreement do not apply to Vietnamese citizens who arrived in the United States before July 12, 1995, it does not explicitly preclude the removal of pre-1995 cases.

You know. People who have been here for decades. And they aren't criminals they are targeting. Its anyone.

Make America White Again.

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/12/donald-trump-deport-vietnam-war-refugees/577993/

the war in vietnam is over

they shouldnt have a problem returning home
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*does some quick math*

Most of the people who will be deported are elderly, and even the youngest ones who made it over are middle aged and have likely never set foot in their country of origin, sending them there is a surefire way to get them killed.
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Philoktetes posted...

the war in vietnam is over

they shouldnt have a problem returning home

They have been living here for decades and the vast majority are well adjusted citizens.

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Philoktetes posted...

the war in vietnam is over

they shouldnt have a problem returning home

They have been living here for decades and the vast majority are well adjusted citizens.

Let's not forget the fact that there was still turbulence in Vietnam for how many years following the US' withdrawal from the country?
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gunplagirl posted...

*does some quick math*

Most of the people who will be deported are elderly, and even the youngest ones who made it over are middle aged and have likely never set foot in their country of origin, sending them there is a surefire way to get them killed.

Its likely most cannot even functionally speak vietnamese.

This is borderline genocide.

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gunplagirl posted...

*does some quick math*

Most of the people who will be deported are elderly, and even the youngest ones who made it over are middle aged and have likely never set foot in their country of origin, sending them there is a surefire way to get them killed.

Its likely most cannot even functionally speak vietnamese.

This is borderline genocide.

Even if they can, dialects in the region have no doubt changed so what their parents could teach would be like... Well, like if you learned English via time traveling to the 1960s.
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I love that genocide is a buzzword at this point.
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shnangyboos posted...

I love that genocide is a buzzword at this point.

http://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.html

e. Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

Trump's already been committing genocide, btw
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Hes still angry about having to fake his bone spurs

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_Massacre
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spikethedevil posted...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_Massacre

>mobile link
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shnangyboos posted...

I love that genocide is a buzzword at this point.

erm

no forced relocation of ethnic groups is literally genocide.

that's correct English. not hyperbole
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Philoktetes posted...

spikethedevil posted...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_Massacre

>mobile link

Should still work.
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https://www.history.com/topics/vietnam-war/my-lai-massacre-1
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spikethedevil posted...

https://www.history.com/topics/vietnam-war/my-lai-massacre-1

:/

bUt wE'rE oNlY gOiNg aFtEr iLlEgAl iMmIgRaNtS
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This is just stupid. They're been living here for decades. Just leave them alone.
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The cruelty is the point.
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CyricZ posted...

The cruelty is the point.

adam serwer is great

gunplagirl posted...

*does some quick math*

Most of the people who will be deported are elderly, and even the youngest ones who made it over are middle aged and have likely never set foot in their country of origin, sending them there is a surefire way to get them killed.

The MAGA movement sees that as a feature, not a bug.