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Anti-245 12/14/18 6:57:49 PM #51:	Webmaster4531 posted... Anti-245 posted... Webmaster4531 posted... Anti-245 posted... Webmaster4531 posted... For the record I have never claimed to be a communist. I'm also not totally for single payer and think the ACA can work with the public option to actually lower health insurance cost. So, you're just a delusional neoliberal. Even worse than a social democrat. WTF are you blathering about? There's two versions of neoliberal, that I doubt I'm either. You've just demonstrated why in your opinion that aca would work even though that's a healthcare plan written up the heritage foundation. Do you know what the public option is? That as far as I know was never a part of the heritage plan and is deeply opposed by Republicans because it actually would give insurance companies competition and a reason to lower prices. What the ACA is supposed to do. The public option in a sea of private healthcare companies and firms might as well as not exist. Those company would lobby the govt so that it essentially wouldn't be funded. Much how like they sabatoged their own creation: the ACA. --- Life in the DoB. <cite>Anti-245 posted [p:914136853] in "LOL ... [t:77299529]...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anti-245 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anti-245 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote>For the record I have never claimed to be a communist. I'm also not totally for single payer and think the ACA can work with the public option to actually lower health insurance cost.</quote> So, you're just a delusional neoliberal. Even worse than a social democrat.</quote> WTF are you blathering about? There's two versions of neoliberal, that I doubt I'm either.</quote> You've just demonstrated why in your opinion that aca would work even though that's a healthcare plan written up the heritage foundation.</quote> Do you know what the public option is? That as far as I know was never a part of the heritage plan and is deeply opposed by Republicans because it actually would give insurance companies competition and a reason to lower prices. What the ACA is supposed to do.</quote> The public option in a sea of private healthcare companies and firms might as well as not exist. Those company would lobby the govt so that it essentially wouldn't be funded. Much how like they sabatoged their own creation: the ACA.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 12/14/18 7:08:26 PM #52:	Anti-245 posted... Webmaster4531 posted... Anti-245 posted... Webmaster4531 posted... Anti-245 posted... Webmaster4531 posted... For the record I have never claimed to be a communist. I'm also not totally for single payer and think the ACA can work with the public option to actually lower health insurance cost. So, you're just a delusional neoliberal. Even worse than a social democrat. WTF are you blathering about? There's two versions of neoliberal, that I doubt I'm either. You've just demonstrated why in your opinion that aca would work even though that's a healthcare plan written up the heritage foundation. Do you know what the public option is? That as far as I know was never a part of the heritage plan and is deeply opposed by Republicans because it actually would give insurance companies competition and a reason to lower prices. What the ACA is supposed to do. The public option in a sea of private healthcare companies and firms might as well as not exist. Those company would lobby the govt so that it essentially wouldn't be funded. Much how like they sabatoged their own creation: the ACA. Which is cheaper out of the United States Postal Service (USPS), United Parcel Service (UPS), and Federal Express (FedEx)? They tried to sabotage USPS to but it's still around. Even if it's terrible it's still competition. Imagine if USPS didn't exist. FedEx and UPS could split their territories and charge whatever prices they want. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:914137338] in "LOL ... [t:77299529]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anti-245 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anti-245 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anti-245 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote>For the record I have never claimed to be a communist. I'm also not totally for single payer and think the ACA can work with the public option to actually lower health insurance cost.</quote> So, you're just a delusional neoliberal. Even worse than a social democrat.</quote> WTF are you blathering about? There's two versions of neoliberal, that I doubt I'm either.</quote> You've just demonstrated why in your opinion that aca would work even though that's a healthcare plan written up the heritage foundation.</quote> Do you know what the public option is? That as far as I know was never a part of the heritage plan and is deeply opposed by Republicans because it actually would give insurance companies competition and a reason to lower prices. What the ACA is supposed to do.</quote> The public option in a sea of private healthcare companies and firms might as well as not exist. Those company would lobby the govt so that it essentially wouldn't be funded. Much how like they sabatoged their own creation: the ACA.</quote> Which is cheaper out of the United States Postal Service (USPS), United Parcel Service (UPS), and Federal Express (FedEx)? They tried to sabotage USPS to but it's still around. Even if it's terrible it's still competition. Imagine if USPS didn't exist. FedEx and UPS could split their territories and charge whatever prices they want.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 12/14/18 7:08:45 PM #53:	Kineth posted... Damn_Underscore posted... Wow how can you ever criticize Communism when any time you do it's just McCarthyism. By first not being afraid of it. The fear leads to misunderstanding which makes the critiques flawed. I'm not afraid of it. I just know that communism, if forced upon a population, which it has to be in order to be implemented as government policy, is an evil ideology. --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:914137350] in "LOL ... [t:77299529]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>Wow how can you ever criticize Communism when any time you do it's just McCarthyism.</quote> By first not being afraid of it. The fear leads to misunderstanding which makes the critiques flawed.</quote> I'm not afraid of it. I just know that communism, if forced upon a population, which it has to be in order to be implemented as government policy, is an evil ideology.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anti-245 12/14/18 7:16:02 PM #54:	Webmaster4531 posted... Anti-245 posted... Webmaster4531 posted... Anti-245 posted... Webmaster4531 posted... Anti-245 posted... Webmaster4531 posted... For the record I have never claimed to be a communist. I'm also not totally for single payer and think the ACA can work with the public option to actually lower health insurance cost. So, you're just a delusional neoliberal. Even worse than a social democrat. WTF are you blathering about? There's two versions of neoliberal, that I doubt I'm either. You've just demonstrated why in your opinion that aca would work even though that's a healthcare plan written up the heritage foundation. Do you know what the public option is? That as far as I know was never a part of the heritage plan and is deeply opposed by Republicans because it actually would give insurance companies competition and a reason to lower prices. What the ACA is supposed to do. The public option in a sea of private healthcare companies and firms might as well as not exist. Those company would lobby the govt so that it essentially wouldn't be funded. Much how like they sabatoged their own creation: the ACA. Which is cheaper out of the United States Postal Service (USPS), United Parcel Service (UPS), and Federal Express (FedEx)? They tried to sabotage USPS to but it's still around. Even if it's terrible it's still competition. Imagine if USPS didn't exist. FedEx and UPS could split their territories and charge whatever prices they want. You're going down and down the neoliberal hole. If we want to talk about cheaper, removing the private based healthcare scam would be a start I suppose but that's your preference so we don't need to talk about it imo. --- Life in the DoB. <cite>Anti-245 posted [p:914137728] in "LOL ... [t:77299529]...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anti-245 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anti-245 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anti-245 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote>For the record I have never claimed to be a communist. I'm also not totally for single payer and think the ACA can work with the public option to actually lower health insurance cost.</quote> So, you're just a delusional neoliberal. Even worse than a social democrat.</quote> WTF are you blathering about? There's two versions of neoliberal, that I doubt I'm either.</quote> You've just demonstrated why in your opinion that aca would work even though that's a healthcare plan written up the heritage foundation.</quote> Do you know what the public option is? That as far as I know was never a part of the heritage plan and is deeply opposed by Republicans because it actually would give insurance companies competition and a reason to lower prices. What the ACA is supposed to do.</quote> The public option in a sea of private healthcare companies and firms might as well as not exist. Those company would lobby the govt so that it essentially wouldn't be funded. Much how like they sabatoged their own creation: the ACA.</quote> Which is cheaper out of the United States Postal Service (USPS), United Parcel Service (UPS), and Federal Express (FedEx)? They tried to sabotage USPS to but it's still around. Even if it's terrible it's still competition. Imagine if USPS didn't exist. FedEx and UPS could split their territories and charge whatever prices they want.</quote> You're going down and down the neoliberal hole. If we want to talk about cheaper, removing the private based healthcare scam would be a start I suppose but that's your preference so we don't need to talk about it imo.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 12/14/18 7:19:14 PM #55:	Damn_Underscore posted... Kineth posted... Damn_Underscore posted... Wow how can you ever criticize Communism when any time you do it's just McCarthyism. By first not being afraid of it. The fear leads to misunderstanding which makes the critiques flawed. I'm not afraid of it. You say that, but that odor I'm getting off of you says otherwise. --- "I don't think anyone seriously thinks that Trump supporters orgasm when they see racism in the news." - Me, reassuring Ammonitida <cite>Kineth posted [p:914137894] in "LOL ... [t:77299529]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>Wow how can you ever criticize Communism when any time you do it's just McCarthyism.</quote> By first not being afraid of it. The fear leads to misunderstanding which makes the critiques flawed.</quote> I'm not afraid of it.</quote> You say that, but that odor I'm getting off of you says otherwise.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 12/14/18 7:23:10 PM #56:	Anti-245 posted... You're going down and down the neoliberal hole. Is USPS a completely private business? Is that what you think? --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:914138078] in "LOL ... [t:77299529]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anti-245 posted...</cite> <quote>You're going down and down the neoliberal hole.</quote> Is USPS a completely private business? Is that what you think?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anti-245 12/14/18 7:23:25 PM #57:	Kineth posted... Damn_Underscore posted... Kineth posted... Damn_Underscore posted... Wow how can you ever criticize Communism when any time you do it's just McCarthyism. By first not being afraid of it. The fear leads to misunderstanding which makes the critiques flawed. I'm not afraid of it. You say that, but that odor I'm getting off of you says otherwise. I think he's more afraid of Marxist-Leninist states than any vague meaning of communism. --- Life in the DoB. <cite>Anti-245 posted [p:914138092] in "LOL ... [t:77299529]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>Wow how can you ever criticize Communism when any time you do it's just McCarthyism.</quote> By first not being afraid of it. The fear leads to misunderstanding which makes the critiques flawed.</quote> I'm not afraid of it.</quote> You say that, but that odor I'm getting off of you says otherwise.</quote> I think he's more afraid of Marxist-Leninist states than any vague meaning of communism.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anti-245 12/14/18 7:23:51 PM #58:	Webmaster4531 posted... Anti-245 posted... You're going down and down the neoliberal hole. Is USPS a completely private business? Is that what you think? That's not what I said at all. --- Life in the DoB. <cite>Anti-245 posted [p:914138107] in "LOL ... [t:77299529]...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anti-245 posted...</cite> <quote>You're going down and down the neoliberal hole.</quote> Is USPS a completely private business? Is that what you think?</quote> That's not what I said at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 12/14/18 7:24:51 PM #59:	Kineth posted... Damn_Underscore posted... Kineth posted... Damn_Underscore posted... Wow how can you ever criticize Communism when any time you do it's just McCarthyism. By first not being afraid of it. The fear leads to misunderstanding which makes the critiques flawed. I'm not afraid of it. You say that, but that odor I'm getting off of you says otherwise. You cannot implement communism without everyone buying in, and in a town, city, state, or country not even close to everyone will willingly buy in. Go ahead and start a commune with a group of people who agree with you, it could actually work. --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:914138149] in "LOL ... [t:77299529]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>Wow how can you ever criticize Communism when any time you do it's just McCarthyism.</quote> By first not being afraid of it. The fear leads to misunderstanding which makes the critiques flawed.</quote> I'm not afraid of it.</quote> You say that, but that odor I'm getting off of you says otherwise.</quote> You cannot implement communism without everyone buying in, and in a town, city, state, or country not even close to everyone will willingly buy in. Go ahead and start a commune with a group of people who agree with you, it could actually work.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 12/14/18 7:25:26 PM #60:	Anti-245 posted... Webmaster4531 posted... Anti-245 posted... You're going down and down the neoliberal hole. Is USPS a completely private business? Is that what you think? That's not what I said at all. What do you think a neoliberal is? --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:914138175] in "LOL ... [t:77299529]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anti-245 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anti-245 posted...</cite> <quote>You're going down and down the neoliberal hole.</quote> Is USPS a completely private business? Is that what you think?</quote> That's not what I said at all.</quote> What do you think a neoliberal is?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anti-245 12/14/18 7:26:56 PM #61:	Damn_Underscore posted... Kineth posted... Damn_Underscore posted... Kineth posted... Damn_Underscore posted... Wow how can you ever criticize Communism when any time you do it's just McCarthyism. By first not being afraid of it. The fear leads to misunderstanding which makes the critiques flawed. I'm not afraid of it. You say that, but that odor I'm getting off of you says otherwise. You cannot implement communism without everyone buying in, and in a town, city, state, or country not even close to everyone will willingly buy in. Go ahead and start a commune with a group of people who agree with you, it could actually work. No system in history of the world had everyone buying into it when it was implemented. They simply withstood internal and external forces to go on and dominate the planet. --- Life in the DoB. <cite>Anti-245 posted [p:914138245] in "LOL ... [t:77299529]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>Wow how can you ever criticize Communism when any time you do it's just McCarthyism.</quote> By first not being afraid of it. The fear leads to misunderstanding which makes the critiques flawed.</quote> I'm not afraid of it.</quote> You say that, but that odor I'm getting off of you says otherwise.</quote> You cannot implement communism without everyone buying in, and in a town, city, state, or country not even close to everyone will willingly buy in. Go ahead and start a commune with a group of people who agree with you, it could actually work.</quote> No system in history of the world had everyone buying into it when it was implemented. They simply withstood internal and external forces to go on and dominate the planet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 12/14/18 7:27:02 PM #62:	Damn_Underscore posted... Kineth posted... Damn_Underscore posted... Kineth posted... Damn_Underscore posted... Wow how can you ever criticize Communism when any time you do it's just McCarthyism. By first not being afraid of it. The fear leads to misunderstanding which makes the critiques flawed. I'm not afraid of it. You say that, but that odor I'm getting off of you says otherwise. You cannot implement communism without everyone buying in, and in a town, city, state, or country not even close to everyone will willingly buy in. Go ahead and start a commune with a group of people who agree with you, it could actually work. Ok, so the point raised in the topic post was concern trolling and you actually weren't interested in an answer and just want type tone deaf responses. --- "I don't think anyone seriously thinks that Trump supporters orgasm when they see racism in the news." - Me, reassuring Ammonitida <cite>Kineth posted [p:914138248] in "LOL ... [t:77299529]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>Wow how can you ever criticize Communism when any time you do it's just McCarthyism.</quote> By first not being afraid of it. The fear leads to misunderstanding which makes the critiques flawed.</quote> I'm not afraid of it.</quote> You say that, but that odor I'm getting off of you says otherwise.</quote> You cannot implement communism without everyone buying in, and in a town, city, state, or country not even close to everyone will willingly buy in. Go ahead and start a commune with a group of people who agree with you, it could actually work.</quote> Ok, so the point raised in the topic post was concern trolling and you actually weren't interested in an answer and just want type tone deaf responses.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anti-245 12/14/18 7:27:46 PM #63:	Webmaster4531 posted... Anti-245 posted... Webmaster4531 posted... Anti-245 posted... You're going down and down the neoliberal hole. Is USPS a completely private business? Is that what you think? That's not what I said at all. What do you think a neoliberal is? I'm more interested in hearing your definition. --- Life in the DoB. <cite>Anti-245 posted [p:914138287] in "LOL ... [t:77299529]...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anti-245 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anti-245 posted...</cite> <quote>You're going down and down the neoliberal hole.</quote> Is USPS a completely private business? Is that what you think?</quote> That's not what I said at all.</quote> What do you think a neoliberal is?</quote> I'm more interested in hearing your definition.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 12/14/18 7:31:46 PM #64:	Anti-245 posted... Webmaster4531 posted... Anti-245 posted... Webmaster4531 posted... Anti-245 posted... You're going down and down the neoliberal hole. Is USPS a completely private business? Is that what you think? That's not what I said at all. What do you think a neoliberal is? I'm more interested in hearing your definition. Neoliberalism or neo-liberalism[1] is the 20th-century resurgence of 19th-century ideas associated with laissez-faire economic liberalism.[2]:7 Those ideas include economic liberalization policies such as privatization, austerity, deregulation, free trade[3] and reductions in government spending in order to increase the role of the private sector in the economy and society.[11] USPS is not a private company. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:914138467] in "LOL ... [t:77299529]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anti-245 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anti-245 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anti-245 posted...</cite> <quote>You're going down and down the neoliberal hole.</quote> Is USPS a completely private business? Is that what you think?</quote> That's not what I said at all.</quote> What do you think a neoliberal is?</quote> I'm more interested in hearing your definition.</quote> Neoliberalism or neo-liberalism[1] is the 20th-century resurgence of 19th-century ideas associated with laissez-faire economic liberalism.[2]:7 Those ideas include economic liberalization policies such as privatization, austerity, deregulation, free trade[3] and reductions in government spending in order to increase the role of the private sector in the economy and society.[11] USPS is not a private company.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TES_Nut 12/14/18 7:32:52 PM #65:	Comunisim doesn't work. Every nation that's tried it have either collapsed or reformed it into something completely unique --- The ending of the word is ALMSIVI <cite>TES_Nut posted [p:914138523] in "LOL ... [t:77299529]...</cite> <quote>Comunisim doesn't work. Every nation that's tried it have either collapsed or reformed it into something completely unique</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anti-245 12/14/18 7:34:37 PM #66:	Webmaster4531 posted... Anti-245 posted... Webmaster4531 posted... Anti-245 posted... Webmaster4531 posted... Anti-245 posted... You're going down and down the neoliberal hole. Is USPS a completely private business? Is that what you think? That's not what I said at all. What do you think a neoliberal is? I'm more interested in hearing your definition. Neoliberalism or neo-liberalism[1] is the 20th-century resurgence of 19th-century ideas associated with laissez-faire economic liberalism.[2]:7 Those ideas include economic liberalization policies such as privatization, austerity, deregulation, free trade[3] and reductions in government spending in order to increase the role of the private sector in the economy and society.[11] USPS is not a private company. That's Wikipedia's definition. I'd rather yours. --- Life in the DoB. <cite>Anti-245 posted [p:914138579] in "LOL ... [t:77299529]...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anti-245 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anti-245 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anti-245 posted...</cite> <quote>You're going down and down the neoliberal hole.</quote> Is USPS a completely private business? Is that what you think?</quote> That's not what I said at all.</quote> What do you think a neoliberal is?</quote> I'm more interested in hearing your definition.</quote> Neoliberalism or neo-liberalism[1] is the 20th-century resurgence of 19th-century ideas associated with laissez-faire economic liberalism.[2]:7 Those ideas include economic liberalization policies such as privatization, austerity, deregulation, free trade[3] and reductions in government spending in order to increase the role of the private sector in the economy and society.[11] USPS is not a private company.</quote> That's Wikipedia's definition. I'd rather yours.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 12/14/18 7:34:49 PM #67:	Anti-245 posted... Ok, so the point raised in the topic post was concern trolling and you actually weren't interested in an answer and just want type tone deaf responses. McCarthyism is accusation without evidence. There is plenty of evidence against communism. Like I said, go and start a commune with other communists. Don't try to force your ideology on everyone else. --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:914138585] in "LOL ... [t:77299529]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anti-245 posted...</cite> <quote>Ok, so the point raised in the topic post was concern trolling and you actually weren't interested in an answer and just want type tone deaf responses.</quote> McCarthyism is accusation without evidence. There is plenty of evidence against communism. Like I said, go and start a commune with other communists. Don't try to force your ideology on everyone else.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 12/14/18 7:38:19 PM #68:	Anti-245 posted... Webmaster4531 posted... Anti-245 posted... Webmaster4531 posted... Anti-245 posted... Webmaster4531 posted... Anti-245 posted... You're going down and down the neoliberal hole. Is USPS a completely private business? Is that what you think? That's not what I said at all. What do you think a neoliberal is? I'm more interested in hearing your definition. Neoliberalism or neo-liberalism[1] is the 20th-century resurgence of 19th-century ideas associated with laissez-faire economic liberalism.[2]:7 Those ideas include economic liberalization policies such as privatization, austerity, deregulation, free trade[3] and reductions in government spending in order to increase the role of the private sector in the economy and society.[11] USPS is not a private company. That's Wikipedia's definition. I'd rather yours. Mines the same. Now are you admitting you're wrong are you going to keep asking stupid questions? --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:914138745] in "LOL ... [t:77299529]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anti-245 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anti-245 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anti-245 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anti-245 posted...</cite> <quote>You're going down and down the neoliberal hole.</quote> Is USPS a completely private business? Is that what you think?</quote> That's not what I said at all.</quote> What do you think a neoliberal is?</quote> I'm more interested in hearing your definition.</quote> Neoliberalism or neo-liberalism[1] is the 20th-century resurgence of 19th-century ideas associated with laissez-faire economic liberalism.[2]:7 Those ideas include economic liberalization policies such as privatization, austerity, deregulation, free trade[3] and reductions in government spending in order to increase the role of the private sector in the economy and society.[11] USPS is not a private company.</quote> That's Wikipedia's definition. I'd rather yours.</quote> Mines the same. Now are you admitting you're wrong are you going to keep asking stupid questions?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anti-245 12/14/18 7:39:11 PM #69:	Damn_Underscore posted... Anti-245 posted... Ok, so the point raised in the topic post was concern trolling and you actually weren't interested in an answer and just want type tone deaf responses. McCarthyism is accusation without evidence. There is plenty of evidence against communism. Like I said, go and start a commune with other communists. Don't try to force your ideology on everyone else. Problem is that if the commune becomes a threat to the state it will be shut down by force. Just like what's happened throughout history. And what are you talking about in regards to my ideology? I simply stated a historical fact. --- Life in the DoB. <cite>Anti-245 posted [p:914138778] in "LOL ... [t:77299529]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anti-245 posted...</cite> <quote>Ok, so the point raised in the topic post was concern trolling and you actually weren't interested in an answer and just want type tone deaf responses.</quote> McCarthyism is accusation without evidence. There is plenty of evidence against communism. Like I said, go and start a commune with other communists. Don't try to force your ideology on everyone else.</quote> Problem is that if the commune becomes a threat to the state it will be shut down by force. Just like what's happened throughout history. And what are you talking about in regards to my ideology? I simply stated a historical fact.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 12/14/18 7:41:13 PM #70:	You said before that I'm just afraid of 20th century Marxism-Leninism. How would your version of communism be different? --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:914138874] in "LOL ... [t:77299529]...</cite> <quote>You said before that I'm just afraid of 20th century Marxism-Leninism. How would your version of communism be different?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anti-245 12/14/18 7:41:58 PM #71:	Damn_Underscore posted... Anti-245 posted... Ok, so the point raised in the topic post was concern trolling and you actually weren't interested in an answer and just want type tone deaf responses. McCarthyism is accusation without evidence. There is plenty of evidence against communism. Like I said, go and start a commune with other communists. Don't try to force your ideology on everyone else. I also think you're responding to the wrong person. --- Life in the DoB. <cite>Anti-245 posted [p:914138909] in "LOL ... [t:77299529]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anti-245 posted...</cite> <quote>Ok, so the point raised in the topic post was concern trolling and you actually weren't interested in an answer and just want type tone deaf responses.</quote> McCarthyism is accusation without evidence. There is plenty of evidence against communism. Like I said, go and start a commune with other communists. Don't try to force your ideology on everyone else.</quote> I also think you're responding to the wrong person.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
treewojima 12/14/18 7:42:48 PM #72:	holy shit, is this really a 70+ post spinoff meltdown topic? <cite>treewojima posted [p:914138941] in "LOL ... [t:77299529]...</cite> <quote>holy shit, is this really a 70+ post spinoff meltdown topic?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anti-245 12/14/18 7:43:21 PM #73:	Damn_Underscore posted... You said before that I'm just afraid of 20th century Marxism-Leninism. How would your version of communism be different? There are a wide of different "communisms". If you're truly interested, just look them up. --- Life in the DoB. <cite>Anti-245 posted [p:914138962] in "LOL ... [t:77299529]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>You said before that I'm just afraid of 20th century Marxism-Leninism. How would your version of communism be different?</quote> There are a wide of different "communisms". If you're truly interested, just look them up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anti-245 12/14/18 7:45:38 PM #74:	@Webmaster4531, I'd still argue that you're still influenced by neoliberal ideology as we all are. --- Life in the DoB. <cite>Anti-245 posted [p:914139062] in "LOL ... [t:77299529]...</cite> <quote>@Webmaster4531, I'd still argue that you're still influenced by neoliberal ideology as we all are.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 12/14/18 7:47:53 PM #75:	treewojima posted... holy shit, is this really a 70+ post spinoff meltdown topic? I bumped it because Proudclad/Cornbarn claimed I'm a self described communist. I'm not. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:914139157] in "LOL ... [t:77299529]...</cite> <quote><cite>treewojima posted...</cite> <quote>holy shit, is this really a 70+ post spinoff meltdown topic?</quote> I bumped it because Proudclad/Cornbarn claimed I'm a self described communist. I'm not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anti-245 12/14/18 7:49:29 PM #76:	Webmaster4531 posted... treewojima posted... holy shit, is this really a 70+ post spinoff meltdown topic? I bumped it because Proudclad/Cornbarn claimed I'm a self described communist. I'm not. We're all communists these days it seems. :/ --- Life in the DoB. <cite>Anti-245 posted [p:914139225] in "LOL ... [t:77299529]...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>treewojima posted...</cite> <quote>holy shit, is this really a 70+ post spinoff meltdown topic?</quote> I bumped it because Proudclad/Cornbarn claimed I'm a self described communist. I'm not.</quote> We're all communists these days it seems. :/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 12/14/18 7:49:36 PM #77:	Anti-245 posted... Damn_Underscore posted... You said before that I'm just afraid of 20th century Marxism-Leninism. How would your version of communism be different? There are a wide of different "communisms". If you're truly interested, just look them up. In general, communism is a completely equal society. There are no statuses or even currency, everyone is the same. Sorry, I'm not interested. This is not possible with people, many of whom aren't ideologically motivated to have these things. Your version of communism will turn out the same as one of the other versions. --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:914139231] in "LOL ... [t:77299529]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anti-245 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>You said before that I'm just afraid of 20th century Marxism-Leninism. How would your version of communism be different?</quote> There are a wide of different "communisms". If you're truly interested, just look them up.</quote> In general, communism is a completely equal society. There are no statuses or even currency, everyone is the same. Sorry, I'm not interested. This is not possible with people, many of whom aren't ideologically motivated to have these things. Your version of communism will turn out the same as one of the other versions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
treewojima 12/14/18 7:49:50 PM #78:	Webmaster4531 posted... treewojima posted... holy shit, is this really a 70+ post spinoff meltdown topic? I bumped it because Proudclad/Cornbarn claimed I'm a self described communist. I'm not. how did I know that proudcommie would somehow be involved lol keep fighting the good fight, brother. solidarity <cite>treewojima posted [p:914139246] in "LOL ... [t:77299529]...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>treewojima posted...</cite> <quote> holy shit, is this really a 70+ post spinoff meltdown topic?</quote> I bumped it because Proudclad/Cornbarn claimed I'm a self described communist. I'm not.</quote> how did I know that proudcommie would somehow be involved lol keep fighting the good fight, brother. solidarity </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 12/14/18 7:51:38 PM #79:	treewojima posted... holy shit, is this really a 70+ post spinoff meltdown topic? When you call everything a certain word the word gets devalued. --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:914139339] in "LOL ... [t:77299529]...</cite> <quote><cite>treewojima posted...</cite> <quote>holy shit, is this really a 70+ post spinoff meltdown topic?</quote> When you call everything a certain word the word gets devalued.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 12/14/18 7:52:21 PM #80:	Anti-245 posted... @Webmaster4531, I'd still argue that you're still influenced by neoliberal ideology as we all are. And that's bad why? I'm never going to go full blown an-cap or communist. The public option is a middle ground that might work might not. I never said I wouldn't support single payer. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:914139375] in "LOL ... [t:77299529]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anti-245 posted...</cite> <quote>@Webmaster4531, I'd still argue that you're still influenced by neoliberal ideology as we all are.</quote> And that's bad why? I'm never going to go full blown an-cap or communist. The public option is a middle ground that might work might not. I never said I wouldn't support single payer.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anti-245 12/14/18 7:54:40 PM #81:	Damn_Underscore posted... Anti-245 posted... Damn_Underscore posted... You said before that I'm just afraid of 20th century Marxism-Leninism. How would your version of communism be different? There are a wide of different "communisms". If you're truly interested, just look them up. In general, communism is a completely equal society. There are no statuses or even currency, everyone is the same. Sorry, I'm not interested. This is not possible with people, many of whom aren't ideologically motivated to have these things. Your version of communism will turn out the same as one of the other versions. That's a general simplification of communism that I haven't heard advocated by anyone. Neither Marxists or any other versions advocate for full egalitarianism. They also don't advocate for whatever "everyone is the same" is supposed to mean. Currency, I'd agree, they claim will be done away with but in so much that it would have any value at the point in time due to wage labor and private property being abolished. If you're truly interested, you should just look up communism and its different variations. You'd probably be surprised. --- Life in the DoB. <cite>Anti-245 posted [p:914139478] in "LOL ... [t:77299529]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anti-245 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>You said before that I'm just afraid of 20th century Marxism-Leninism. How would your version of communism be different?</quote> There are a wide of different "communisms". If you're truly interested, just look them up.</quote> In general, communism is a completely equal society. There are no statuses or even currency, everyone is the same. Sorry, I'm not interested. This is not possible with people, many of whom aren't ideologically motivated to have these things. Your version of communism will turn out the same as one of the other versions.</quote> That's a general simplification of communism that I haven't heard advocated by anyone. Neither Marxists or any other versions advocate for full egalitarianism. They also don't advocate for whatever "everyone is the same" is supposed to mean. Currency, I'd agree, they claim will be done away with but in so much that it would have any value at the point in time due to wage labor and private property being abolished. If you're truly interested, you should just look up communism and its different variations. You'd probably be surprised.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anti-245 12/14/18 7:56:08 PM #82:	Webmaster4531 posted... Anti-245 posted... @Webmaster4531, I'd still argue that you're still influenced by neoliberal ideology as we all are. And that's bad why? I'm never going to go full blown an-cap or communist. The public option is a middle ground that might work might not. I never said I wouldn't support single payer. Nationalized industries is not communism. That's just extended state power to ensure the health of its citizens. This can and does coexist with capitalist mode of production. :P --- Life in the DoB. <cite>Anti-245 posted [p:914139551] in "LOL ... [t:77299529]...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anti-245 posted...</cite> <quote>@Webmaster4531, I'd still argue that you're still influenced by neoliberal ideology as we all are.</quote> And that's bad why? I'm never going to go full blown an-cap or communist. The public option is a middle ground that might work might not. I never said I wouldn't support single payer.</quote> Nationalized industries is not communism. That's just extended state power to ensure the health of its citizens. This can and does coexist with capitalist mode of production. :P</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shokan_warrior 12/15/18 3:20:51 AM #83:	>McCarthy says these guys are communist and trying to subvert the US >people think he's crazy and ruin his reputation >US culture changes in the following decades and to some it can look like the work of subversion >later its revealed the people he accused of being communist were in fact communist --- never don't give up <cite>shokan_warrior posted [p:914155422] in "LOL ... [t:77299529]...</cite> <quote>>McCarthy says these guys are communist and trying to subvert the US >people think he's crazy and ruin his reputation >US culture changes in the following decades and to some it can look like the work of subversion >later its revealed the people he accused of being communist were in fact communist</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shokan_warrior 12/15/18 3:29:10 AM #84:	Couldn't find a better source https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1996/04/14/was-mccarthy-right-about-the-left/ a0dc6726-e2fd-4a31-bcdd-5f352acbf5de/?utm_term=.b85191e88efa --- never don't give up <cite>shokan_warrior posted [p:914155544] in "LOL ... [t:77299529]...</cite> <quote>Couldn't find a better source https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1996/04/14/was-mccarthy-right-about-the-left/ a0dc6726-e2fd-4a31-bcdd-5f352acbf5de/?utm_term=.b85191e88efa</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NadYobWoc 12/15/18 3:51:56 AM #85:	MakoReizei posted... CornBarn posted... MakoReizei posted... death is a preferable alternative to communism Communism will never take hold again. It had its chance in the 20th century. the only good communist... Why are you so death and violence obsessed? Seems like a bad guy trait. --- Cowboy Dan's a major player in the cowboy scene <cite>NadYobWoc posted [p:914155920] in "LOL ... [t:77299529]...</cite> <quote><cite>MakoReizei posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CornBarn posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MakoReizei posted...</cite> <quote>death is a preferable alternative to communism</quote> Communism will never take hold again. It had its chance in the 20th century.</quote> the only good communist...</quote> Why are you so death and violence obsessed? Seems like a bad guy trait.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anti-245 12/15/18 4:01:32 AM #86:	NadYobWoc posted... MakoReizei posted... CornBarn posted... MakoReizei posted... death is a preferable alternative to communism Communism will never take hold again. It had its chance in the 20th century. the only good communist... Why are you so death and violence obsessed? Seems like a bad guy trait. Fear facilitates violent reaction. --- Life in the DoB. <cite>Anti-245 posted [p:914156065] in "LOL ... [t:77299529]...</cite> <quote><cite>NadYobWoc posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MakoReizei posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CornBarn posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MakoReizei posted...</cite> <quote>death is a preferable alternative to communism</quote> Communism will never take hold again. It had its chance in the 20th century.</quote> the only good communist...</quote> Why are you so death and violence obsessed? Seems like a bad guy trait.</quote> Fear facilitates violent reaction.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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