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Damn_Underscore
12/13/18 6:14:51 PM
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Wow how can you ever criticize Communism when any time you do it's just McCarthyism.
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NotWhiteNinja
12/13/18 6:15:23 PM
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When you don't have any logic to back your stance, buzzwords and namecalling are all you've got left.
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Genocet_10-325
12/13/18 6:15:36 PM
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Damn my topic made you mad enough for you to make a spin off topic lmfao
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treewojima
12/13/18 6:15:49 PM
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wow, you really got triggered in that topic
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Ambience
12/13/18 6:16:08 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Wow how can you ever criticize Communism when any time you do it's just McCarthyism.

When you bring up communism as a whataboutism in topics criticizing a completely deregulated free market, it's to be expected
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Damn_Underscore
12/13/18 6:20:26 PM
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If I had made that same post as a new topic instead of a reply you guys would still criticized for being triggered and you would still say "but the liberals!" Genocet happened to make his topic first.

It just shows that many of you guys don't have response other than insults.
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Ambience
12/13/18 6:21:55 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
If I had made that same post as a new topic instead of a reply you guys would still criticized for being triggered and you would still say "but the liberals!" Genocet happened to make his topic first.

It just shows that many of you guys don't have response other than insults.

So you're admitting you have no response to his topic?
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Axiom
12/13/18 6:22:22 PM
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Genocet_10-325 posted...
Damn my topic made you mad enough for you to make a spin off topic lmfao

I love when that happens

Also how is TC going to make this topic when CE literally has a McCarthy on this very board
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CornBarn
12/13/18 6:22:58 PM
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The only people on CE who deflect to "wow McCarthyism!!!" are the literal communists and far left radicals who want to avoid having to answer for the many catastrophic failures in their worldview.

Like in that other topic, the dude who brought up McCarthyism first has openly admitted he's a commie.
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Ambience
12/13/18 6:24:13 PM
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Axiom posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
Damn my topic made you mad enough for you to make a spin off topic lmfao

I love when that happens

Also how is TC going to make this topic when CE literally has a McCarthy on this very board

It's like you summoned him, lmao. Posted right after you.
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MakoReizei
12/13/18 6:25:45 PM
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death is a preferable alternative to communism
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Damn_Underscore
12/13/18 6:25:51 PM
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Ambience posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
If I had made that same post as a new topic instead of a reply you guys would still criticized for being triggered and you would still say "but the liberals!" Genocet happened to make his topic first.

It just shows that many of you guys don't have response other than insults.

So you're admitting you have no response to his topic?


I agree with him that a full free market is not a good idea, but considering he's a socialist he probably doesn't think that a central economy is a bad idea.
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Ambience
12/13/18 6:27:45 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Ambience posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
If I had made that same post as a new topic instead of a reply you guys would still criticized for being triggered and you would still say "but the liberals!" Genocet happened to make his topic first.

It just shows that many of you guys don't have response other than insults.

So you're admitting you have no response to his topic?


I agree with him that a full free market is not a good idea, but considering he's a socialist he probably doesn't think that a central economy is a bad idea.

OK, but your second part wasn't in his topic at all.

You agree a completely free market is a dumb idea. Period. Why bring up communism?
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CornBarn
12/13/18 6:28:37 PM
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MakoReizei posted...
death is a preferable alternative to communism


Communism will never take hold again. It had its chance in the 20th century.
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Anti-245
12/13/18 6:29:32 PM
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CornBarn posted...
MakoReizei posted...
death is a preferable alternative to communism


Communism will never take hold again. It had its chance in the 20th century.

Wishful thinking.
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Axiom
12/13/18 6:29:42 PM
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Ambience posted...
Axiom posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
Damn my topic made you mad enough for you to make a spin off topic lmfao

I love when that happens

Also how is TC going to make this topic when CE literally has a McCarthy on this very board

It's like you summoned him, lmao. Posted right after you.

If there's talk of socialism or communism he'll be there to call everyone not on the right commies
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MakoReizei
12/13/18 6:31:08 PM
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CornBarn posted...
MakoReizei posted...
death is a preferable alternative to communism


Communism will never take hold again. It had its chance in the 20th century.

the only good communist...
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Webmaster4531
12/13/18 6:34:25 PM
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CornBarn posted...
The only people on CE who deflect to "wow McCarthyism!!!" are the literal communists and far left radicals who want to avoid having to answer for the many catastrophic failures in their worldview.

Like in that other topic, the dude who brought up McCarthyism first has openly admitted he's a commie.

What?
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Damn_Underscore
12/13/18 6:36:46 PM
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Ambience posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
Ambience posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
If I had made that same post as a new topic instead of a reply you guys would still criticized for being triggered and you would still say "but the liberals!" Genocet happened to make his topic first.

It just shows that many of you guys don't have response other than insults.

So you're admitting you have no response to his topic?


I agree with him that a full free market is not a good idea, but considering he's a socialist he probably doesn't think that a central economy is a bad idea.

OK, but your second part wasn't in his topic at all.

You agree a completely free market is a dumb idea. Period. Why bring up communism?


Because it's something for him to consider. He says he's a socialist, and socialism and communism are very similar. I was using the terms interchangeably.
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AmericaTheBrave
12/13/18 6:40:56 PM
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Communism will NEVER have a home on US soil.
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Gafemage
12/13/18 6:42:03 PM
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Ambience
12/13/18 6:42:40 PM
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AmericaTheBrave posted...
Communism will NEVER have a home on US soil.

Nor should it, nor is anyone with any kind of political presence advocating for it. Some CEmen consider the concept of Universal health care to be communism though.
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Anti-245
12/13/18 6:43:32 PM
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AmericaTheBrave posted...
Communism will NEVER have a home on US soil.

You're probably right. U.S. history is very different than Western Europe or any other industrialized region. Most of the population that came here wanted land and once here long enough, had a group shipped in to be a permanent under class while they(the settlers) destroyed the native populations and cultures.
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Irony
12/13/18 6:44:30 PM
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McCarthyism is just a new age term for witch hunt.
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Webmaster4531
12/13/18 6:46:47 PM
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Irony posted...
McCarthyism is just a new age term for witch hunt.

It's actually a very old term but you're right it does mean a specific kind of Witch Hunt.
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Damn_Underscore
12/13/18 6:47:21 PM
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Ironically a distinctive aspect of McCarthyism is that you don't have any evidence.
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Webmaster4531
12/13/18 6:48:48 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
A distinctive aspect of McCarthyism is I don't have any evidence.
Just whataboutism.

FTFY
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Damn_Underscore
12/13/18 6:51:06 PM
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Webmaster4531 posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
A distinctive aspect of McCarthyism is I don't have any evidence.
Just whataboutism.

FTFY


If I had made the same topic as Genocet but with the words switched before Genocet made his, you would still be criticizing me.
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Webmaster4531
12/13/18 6:53:49 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
A distinctive aspect of McCarthyism is I don't have any evidence.
Just whataboutism.

FTFY


If I had made the same topic as Genocet but with the words switched before Genocet made his, you would still be criticizing me.

Because "Hardcore fiscal liberals need to read up on 20th century communism."
Is stupid even if you didn't whataboutism.
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Damn_Underscore
12/13/18 6:55:21 PM
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Webmaster4531 posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
A distinctive aspect of McCarthyism is I don't have any evidence.
Just whataboutism.

FTFY


If I had made the same topic as Genocet but with the words switched before Genocet made his, you would still be criticizing me.

Because "Hardcore fiscal liberals need to read up on 20th century communism."
Is stupid even if you didn't whataboutism.


20th century communism is a contrast to a fully free market.
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Webmaster4531
12/13/18 7:10:24 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
A distinctive aspect of McCarthyism is I don't have any evidence.
Just whataboutism.

FTFY


If I had made the same topic as Genocet but with the words switched before Genocet made his, you would still be criticizing me.

Because "Hardcore fiscal liberals need to read up on 20th century communism."
Is stupid even if you didn't whataboutism.


20th century communism is a contrast to a fully free market.

Someone saying anarcho capitalism is bad doesn't mean they think communism is good.

In the context of you writing the topic first.

I guess Genocet was being a dick but I'd say more conservatives believe in laisez faire than liberals communism.
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Anti-245
12/13/18 7:11:43 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
A distinctive aspect of McCarthyism is I don't have any evidence.
Just whataboutism.

FTFY


If I had made the same topic as Genocet but with the words switched before Genocet made his, you would still be criticizing me.

Because "Hardcore fiscal liberals need to read up on 20th century communism."
Is stupid even if you didn't whataboutism.


20th century communism is a contrast to a fully free market.

Uhh, I'd say central planning was and most warring nations during ww2 had some form of it.
20th century communism is more than just sovietism or even Maoism.
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Webmaster4531
12/13/18 7:59:00 PM
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@CornBarn posted...
Like in that other topic, the dude who brought up McCarthyism first has openly admitted he's a commie.

Seriously, what?
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Anti-245
12/13/18 8:01:55 PM
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Webmaster4531 posted...
@CornBarn posted...
Like in that other topic, the dude who brought up McCarthyism first has openly admitted he's a commie.

Seriously, what?

I think he's saying you're all communists for supporting social democracy. Not sure how you could be considering how badly Lenin hated imperialism, but to be fair that was before the "red revolution".
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Webmaster4531
12/14/18 5:44:17 PM
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Anti-245 posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
@CornBarn posted...
Like in that other topic, the dude who brought up McCarthyism first has openly admitted he's a commie.

Seriously, what?

I think he's saying you're all communists for supporting social democracy. Not sure how you could be considering how badly Lenin hated imperialism, but to be fair that was before the "red revolution".

For the record I have never claimed to be a communist. I'm also not totally for single payer and think the ACA can work with the public option to actually lower health insurance cost.
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Master_Bass
12/14/18 6:00:44 PM
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Webmaster4531 posted...
I guess Genocet was being a dick but I'd say more conservatives believe in laisez faire than liberals communism.

No liberals believe in communism. They're two opposing systems.
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cjsdowg
12/14/18 6:02:53 PM
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NotWhiteNinja posted...
When you don't have any logic to back your stance, buzzwords and namecalling are all you've got left.


McCarthyism is not being okay with communism. It is the act of of being so scared that one does things that impacts the civil rights of others. Which we have documented proof that McCarthy did .
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kingdrake2
12/14/18 6:04:31 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Why do people call me McCarthy when I bring up communism unprovoked constantly?! is my new favorite take. Sure shows how intelligent these people are.


there's no explanation but i fucking hate communism get this shit off our website.
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Webmaster4531
12/14/18 6:06:11 PM
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Master_Bass posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
I guess Genocet was being a dick but I'd say more conservatives believe in laisez faire than liberals communism.

No liberals believe in communism. They're two opposing systems.

They both have an idealistic utopian version that has nothing to do with reality.
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shokan_warrior
12/14/18 6:06:43 PM
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McCarthy was right in the end

There WAS communist infiltration and he called them out on it, correctly

Years later his targets were proven to actually be commies
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cjsdowg
12/14/18 6:17:11 PM
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shokan_warrior posted...
McCarthy was right in the end

There WAS communist infiltration and he called them out on it, correctly

Years later his targets were proven to actually be commies


It wasn't right.. you can like the civil liberties away from people just because you think that they might have political view that you don't like. That literally is contrary the American values.
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Kineth
12/14/18 6:29:49 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Wow how can you ever criticize Communism when any time you do it's just McCarthyism.


By first not being afraid of it. The fear leads to misunderstanding which makes the critiques flawed.
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Kineth
12/14/18 6:31:25 PM
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shokan_warrior posted...
McCarthy was right in the end

There WAS communist infiltration and he called them out on it, correctly

Years later his targets were proven to actually be commies


The Red Scare is why we don't have Vietnam as an ally. That and FDR keeping Truman in the dark about his secret operations.
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Anti-245
12/14/18 6:33:27 PM
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Webmaster4531 posted...
Anti-245 posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
@CornBarn posted...
Like in that other topic, the dude who brought up McCarthyism first has openly admitted he's a commie.

Seriously, what?

I think he's saying you're all communists for supporting social democracy. Not sure how you could be considering how badly Lenin hated imperialism, but to be fair that was before the "red revolution".

For the record I have never claimed to be a communist. I'm also not totally for single payer and think the ACA can work with the public option to actually lower health insurance cost.

So, you're just a delusional neoliberal. Even worse than a social democrat.
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Webmaster4531
12/14/18 6:45:17 PM
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Anti-245 posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
For the record I have never claimed to be a communist. I'm also not totally for single payer and think the ACA can work with the public option to actually lower health insurance cost.

So, you're just a delusional neoliberal. Even worse than a social democrat.

WTF are you blathering about?

There's two versions of neoliberal, that I doubt I'm either.
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Anti-245
12/14/18 6:47:44 PM
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Webmaster4531 posted...
Anti-245 posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
For the record I have never claimed to be a communist. I'm also not totally for single payer and think the ACA can work with the public option to actually lower health insurance cost.

So, you're just a delusional neoliberal. Even worse than a social democrat.

WTF are you blathering about?

There's two versions of neoliberal, that I doubt I'm either.

You've just demonstrated why in your opinion that aca would work even though that's a healthcare plan written up the heritage foundation.
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Webmaster4531
12/14/18 6:51:37 PM
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Anti-245 posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
Anti-245 posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
For the record I have never claimed to be a communist. I'm also not totally for single payer and think the ACA can work with the public option to actually lower health insurance cost.

So, you're just a delusional neoliberal. Even worse than a social democrat.

WTF are you blathering about?

There's two versions of neoliberal, that I doubt I'm either.

You've just demonstrated why in your opinion that aca would work even though that's a healthcare plan written up the heritage foundation.

Do you know what the public option is? That as far as I know was never a part of the heritage plan and is deeply opposed by Republicans because it actually would give insurance companies competition and a reason to lower prices.

What the ACA is supposed to do.
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