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Sayoria 12/14/18 10:10:44 PM #1: |
Good luck poor people living in the south. You'll never see a hospital bed again.
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DaveTheUseless 12/14/18 10:11:41 PM #2: |
o well I liked having health care while it lasted
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BLAKUboy 12/14/18 10:11:55 PM #3: |
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It's just some asshole in Texas. It'll get overturned. --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera https://signavatar.com/26999_s.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Caelthus 12/14/18 10:11:58 PM #4: |
You're misinterpreting the ruling then, because the ACA was already determined to be legal by the supreme court years ago. A lower court cannot rule otherwise under any circumstance.
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Ambience 12/14/18 10:12:59 PM #5: |
BLAKUboy posted...
BLAKUboy posted...It's just some asshole in Texas. It'll get overturned. --- A Beach in Winter ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 12/14/18 10:15:59 PM #6: |
[citation needed]
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Spam_n_eggs 12/14/18 10:18:35 PM #7: |
Sayoria posted...
Good luck poor people living in the south. You'll never see a hospital bed again. This cant be good for 45s 2020 election prospects lol ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VipaGTS 12/14/18 10:19:13 PM #8: |
Its just Texas doing some sort of symbolic idiocy they can't do because "LIBERALS SOCIALISM" or whatever....
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KILBOTz 12/14/18 10:20:43 PM #9: |
Caelthus posted...
You're misinterpreting the ruling then, because the ACA was already determined to be legal by the supreme court years ago. A lower court cannot rule otherwise under any circumstance. They changed the law removing the penalty for not having insurance. That was one of the key arguments originally to the Supreme Court. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KILBOTz 12/14/18 10:21:13 PM #10: |
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Acceptance 12/14/18 10:25:24 PM #11: |
Think this goes to the Supreme Court??
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Questionmarktarius 12/14/18 10:25:26 PM #12: |
So... getting rid of the totally-not-a-tax-you-guys "penalty" somehow makes the whole thing unconstitutional?
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Spam_n_eggs 12/14/18 10:26:58 PM #13: |
Get rid of Obamacare. Lets see now that works for in 2020 magaboys
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KILBOTz 12/14/18 10:31:27 PM #14: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
So... getting rid of the totally-not-a-tax-you-guys "penalty" somehow makes the whole thing unconstitutional? https://journalofethics.ama-assn.org/article/constitutionality-affordable-care-act-update/2012-11 Summary of why it was originally declared constitutional might clear some stuff up for you. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 12/14/18 10:55:38 PM #15: |
KILBOTz posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...So... getting rid of the totally-not-a-tax-you-guys "penalty" somehow makes the whole thing unconstitutional? Huh. The 80s teen movie villain tactic actually works here. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KILBOTz 12/14/18 11:03:48 PM #16: |
Not to mention to possible Trump voters, he will just say "democrat led congress was unable to create a working law to replace one that was declared unconstitional. The lack of insurance falls on them." Of course ignoring the fact that republicans passed the bill to remove the penalty.
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darkjedilink 12/14/18 11:12:22 PM #17: |
Caelthus posted...
You're misinterpreting the ruling then, because the ACA was already determined to be legal by the supreme court years ago. A lower court cannot rule otherwise under any circumstance. Not true - they can rule it unconstitutional for any reason outside of the 'it's not a tax' argument. It literally is unconstitutional, because the government has no legal authority to force you to enter any marketplace, much less an in-state one. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 12/14/18 11:20:02 PM #18: |
How hilarious would it be if Trump establishes a national system?
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gunplagirl 12/14/18 11:22:27 PM #19: |
KILBOTz posted...
Caelthus posted...You're misinterpreting the ruling then, because the ACA was already determined to be legal by the supreme court years ago. A lower court cannot rule otherwise under any circumstance. What's with all those anti-sodomy laws that we declared unconstitutional but never forced to be removed from the books? --- Pew pew! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Esrac 12/14/18 11:22:36 PM #20: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
How hilarious would it be if Trump establishes a national system? I wish they would establish a nationalized healthcare system. But I wouldn't hold my breath for it. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThePrinceFish 12/14/18 11:24:57 PM #21: |
BLAKUboy posted...
BLAKUboy posted...It's just some asshole in Texas. It'll get overturned. I'm sure rather than celebrating the federal judges blocking Trump's policies such as the travel ban, you stumped around the topics pointing out that it was just some asshole in Hawaii. But we know that's not true. --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KILBOTz 12/14/18 11:27:57 PM #22: |
Esrac posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...How hilarious would it be if Trump establishes a national system? If passing a national healthcare law could help them and harm democrats they will come to the table. Maybe shoot down the first pure democrat one and then have an R written bill that's good enough to get votes. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThePrinceFish 12/14/18 11:37:51 PM #24: |
byron posted...
ThePrinceFish posted...BLAKUboy posted...BLAKUboy posted...It's just some asshole in Texas. It'll get overturned. Right. My side patriot, your side "just some asshole," gotcha. --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ambience 12/15/18 12:56:07 AM #26: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
How hilarious would it be if Trump establishes a national system? Won't happen. Both parties want such fundamentally different things that a healthcare plan that can pass through the Democratic house and the Republican senate AND not get vetoed by Trump is a pipe dream Though, if you took Obamacare, kept it identical and renamed it to TrumpCare, Trump would love it. See the rebranded NAFTA --- A Beach in Winter ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Payzmaykr 12/15/18 12:57:10 AM #27: |
It was a bad idea from the start.
The system we have isnt great, so lets change it to something thats ten times worse! --- Member of The Fam ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Rinku_ 12/15/18 1:05:04 AM #29: |
JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
You do realize under the hippo ratio oath that all who are ill must be treated regardless of their income, right? I realize things are more nuanced than this, but just wanted to check since you claim poor people in the south will never see a hospital bed. Okay, and how does a poor person with no job, no insurance, and cancer seek treatment in the US? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mistere Man 12/15/18 1:10:56 AM #30: |
_Rinku_ posted...
JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...You do realize under the hippo ratio oath that all who are ill must be treated regardless of their income, right? I realize things are more nuanced than this, but just wanted to check since you claim poor people in the south will never see a hospital bed. Go to hospital? They cant deny service even if you cant pay. --- Water+Fall=Radiation. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Payzmaykr 12/15/18 1:12:41 AM #31: |
Mistere Man posted...
_Rinku_ posted...JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...You do realize under the hippo ratio oath that all who are ill must be treated regardless of their income, right? I realize things are more nuanced than this, but just wanted to check since you claim poor people in the south will never see a hospital bed. They can financially ruin you. Debt collectors calling your phone and harassing you at home. People in this country have declared bankruptcy over medical bills and that isnt right. --- Member of The Fam ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DezDroppedFreak 12/15/18 1:13:06 AM #32: |
Mistere Man posted...
_Rinku_ posted...JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...You do realize under the hippo ratio oath that all who are ill must be treated regardless of their income, right? I realize things are more nuanced than this, but just wanted to check since you claim poor people in the south will never see a hospital bed. For emergency/critical situations, yeah. I dont think chemotherapy falls under that Either way its die from it or die from the ruins your life will be in from debt --- Beep bep <.< >.> <.< Hotness: https://imgtc.com/i/6SC3Wu5.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Rinku_ 12/15/18 1:14:11 AM #33: |
Mistere Man posted...
_Rinku_ posted...JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...You do realize under the hippo ratio oath that all who are ill must be treated regardless of their income, right? I realize things are more nuanced than this, but just wanted to check since you claim poor people in the south will never see a hospital bed. For chemo they sure can. They will redirect you to the ER to prevent anything that will immediately kill you, but they have no more obligation than that. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mistere Man 12/15/18 1:14:36 AM #34: |
Payzmaykr posted...
Mistere Man posted..._Rinku_ posted...JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...You do realize under the hippo ratio oath that all who are ill must be treated regardless of their income, right? I realize things are more nuanced than this, but just wanted to check since you claim poor people in the south will never see a hospital bed. They already dont have a job, and bankruptcy isnt as bad as it sounds. --- Water+Fall=Radiation. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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muchdran 12/15/18 1:16:02 AM #35: |
I liked having good health care before Obama fucked it up
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_Rinku_ 12/15/18 1:16:30 AM #36: |
Mistere Man posted...
Payzmaykr posted...Mistere Man posted..._Rinku_ posted...JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...You do realize under the hippo ratio oath that all who are ill must be treated regardless of their income, right? I realize things are more nuanced than this, but just wanted to check since you claim poor people in the south will never see a hospital bed. "Just declare bankruptcy so you don't die!" Do you understand how utterly heartless and clueless that sounds? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DezDroppedFreak 12/15/18 1:17:13 AM #37: |
Mistere Man posted...
Payzmaykr posted...Mistere Man posted..._Rinku_ posted...JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...You do realize under the hippo ratio oath that all who are ill must be treated regardless of their income, right? I realize things are more nuanced than this, but just wanted to check since you claim poor people in the south will never see a hospital bed. Fuck off mate. --- Beep bep <.< >.> <.< Hotness: https://imgtc.com/i/6SC3Wu5.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Payzmaykr 12/15/18 1:19:33 AM #38: |
_Rinku_ posted...
Mistere Man posted...Payzmaykr posted...Mistere Man posted..._Rinku_ posted...JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...You do realize under the hippo ratio oath that all who are ill must be treated regardless of their income, right? I realize things are more nuanced than this, but just wanted to check since you claim poor people in the south will never see a hospital bed. Yeah, seriously. Sometimes its easy to be idealistic about these things until people close to you get railroaded over an unexpected injury. NOBODY should receive a $10,000 bill from the hospital for a plaster cast and an X-ray. Nobody should be forced to have PAYMENT PLANS for a medical emergency. Nobody should go bankrupt over medical expenses, regardless of the fact that some people think bankruptcy isnt that bad. --- Member of The Fam ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Rinku_ 12/15/18 1:20:45 AM #39: |
muchdran posted...
I liked having good health care before Obama fucked it up I like that my friends with pre-existing conditions can get insurance and not just die now. Obamacare isn't perfect, but it's better than what we had. Universal healthcare would be preferable though. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Siaperaz 12/15/18 1:24:37 AM #40: |
Why are people acting like Obamacare is good? It's not. It's terrible just like the entire hralth system.
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Ambience 12/15/18 1:27:33 AM #41: |
Siaperaz posted...
Why are people acting like Obamacare is good? It's not. It's terrible just like the entire hralth system. It's not good, but it's better than the shit that it replaced Lifetime caps, no allowance for preexisting conditions, difficulty for low income families to get insurance --- A Beach in Winter ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mistere Man 12/15/18 1:29:16 AM #42: |
_Rinku_ posted...
Mistere Man posted...Payzmaykr posted...Mistere Man posted..._Rinku_ posted...JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...You do realize under the hippo ratio oath that all who are ill must be treated regardless of their income, right? I realize things are more nuanced than this, but just wanted to check since you claim poor people in the south will never see a hospital bed. I dont mean to sound heartless but you said a person with no job or insurance with cancer. Is a person with no job really worried about their financial situation? Get the treatment bankrupt and heck look for a job once better. For the record I have no job, I have no insurance, and heck I have been told I have signs I may have cancer. If I cared to get treated I wouldnt worry about claiming bankruptcy. Or heck just dont pay them as lets see them get it from someone with no job or income. Also there are organizations that can help people that want it to get treatment even without insurance. --- Water+Fall=Radiation. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kingdrake2 12/15/18 3:21:25 AM #44: |
Payzmaykr posted...
Mistere Man posted..._Rinku_ posted...JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...You do realize under the hippo ratio oath that all who are ill must be treated regardless of their income, right? I realize things are more nuanced than this, but just wanted to check since you claim poor people in the south will never see a hospital bed. unfortunately hospitals cost money to run to pay "employee's" a salary or wage for services but everyone is still on the hook for any service. i still owe money from a seizure incident but not to the hospital (didn't think that would happen to me but dehydration can cause it) only thing i remember is waking up in the back of an ambulance being told by my brother i was found slumped over in my chair having that condition happen it broke my back for a month as well. --- https://psnprofiles.com/kingdrake2 unofficial leader of gamefaqs platinums. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fire_81 12/15/18 3:24:13 AM #45: |
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Crepes 12/15/18 3:43:34 AM #46: |
Its not economically possible to give healthcare to everyone. Especially with an aging population. The real crime is not allowing people to sign off in their own terms. Especially with only 2-5 years before we have another massive market crash and society breaks down even further.
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Fire_81 12/15/18 3:55:26 AM #47: |
Crepes posted...
Its not economically possible to give healthcare to everyone. Especially with an aging population. The real crime is not allowing people to sign off in their own terms. Especially with only 2-5 years before we have another massive market crash and society breaks down even further. Saving 5 trillion dollars. That's Trillion with a "T" B**** LoL --- PSN Fire_Girl81 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Link43130 12/15/18 3:58:25 AM #48: |
kingdrake2 posted...
unfortunately hospitals cost money to run to pay "employee's" a salary or wage for services but everyone is still on the hook for any service. i still owe money from a seizure incident but not to the hospital (didn't think that would happen to me but dehydration can cause it) only thing i remember is waking up in the back of an ambulance being told by my brother i was found slumped over in my chair having that condition happen it broke my back for a month as well. yeah, if only there was some way to collect funds from citizens to pay for societal services --- Steam/XBL/PSN: Link43130 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fire_81 12/15/18 4:08:09 AM #49: |
Link43130 posted...
kingdrake2 posted...unfortunately hospitals cost money to run to pay "employee's" a salary or wage for services but everyone is still on the hook for any service. i still owe money from a seizure incident but not to the hospital (didn't think that would happen to me but dehydration can cause it) only thing i remember is waking up in the back of an ambulance being told by my brother i was found slumped over in my chair having that condition happen it broke my back for a month as well. Yeah it's called this: --- PSN Fire_Girl81 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnholyMudcrab 12/15/18 4:31:21 AM #50: |
The Supreme Court is going to laugh this out of the courtroom
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Thaddeus_J_Pibb 12/15/18 5:02:47 AM #51: |
gunplagirl posted...
KILBOTz posted...Caelthus posted...You're misinterpreting the ruling then, because the ACA was already determined to be legal by the supreme court years ago. A lower court cannot rule otherwise under any circumstance. Write your senator, tell them it's your god given right to get your fart box pounded out. --- When little boys don't get 8 hours of sleep, their glands emit a pleasant berry smell that attracts pedophiles. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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