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TheRock1525
12/16/18 11:02:10 PM
#51:


BECKY ON SPONSER A HEEL.

THIS IS THE BEST!

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ScareChan
12/16/18 11:02:19 PM
#52:


this E and C show feels like it should be on Adult Swim at like 2 am
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RaidenGarai
12/16/18 11:02:28 PM
#53:


Given how popular Becky is, I wonder if some people will treat that as a Ronda heel turn.

I know shell never be booked as a heel, Im just talking audience reaction here.
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StealThisSheen
12/16/18 11:02:40 PM
#54:


ScareChan posted...
ronda should have done some shit talking


I think the last thing any spot needs is Ronda talking
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Jakyl25
12/16/18 11:03:07 PM
#55:


Oh crap I forgot Bryan vs AJ

That was the third best match easily
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StealThisSheen
12/16/18 11:03:10 PM
#56:


RaidenGarai posted...
Given how popular Becky is, I wonder if some people will treat that as a Ronda heel turn.

I know shell never be booked as a heel, Im just talking audience reaction here.


Maybe, though the crowd was definitely behind the Asuka win.

Like I said in the other topic, WWE was definitely trying to train the crowd to cheer for Asuka over the others and it seems like it worked
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ScareChan
12/16/18 11:03:39 PM
#57:


little james ellsworth

are you serious
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TheRock1525
12/16/18 11:07:02 PM
#58:


StealThisSheen posted...
Like I said in the other topic, WWE was definitely trying to train the crowd to cheer for Asuka over the others and it seems like it worked


They needed to train the crowd to cheer a character that has been babyface since the moment she joined the WWE?
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Eddv
12/16/18 11:07:59 PM
#59:


StealThisSheen posted...
RaidenGarai posted...
Given how popular Becky is, I wonder if some people will treat that as a Ronda heel turn.

I know shell never be booked as a heel, Im just talking audience reaction here.


Maybe, though the crowd was definitely behind the Asuka win.

Like I said in the other topic, WWE was definitely trying to train the crowd to cheer for Asuka over the others and it seems like it worked


I mean a little.

But she was clearly a DISTANT third in terms of popularity in this match.

Her holding the title is I feel really really bad for the title overall.

Becky/Charlotte/Ronda clearly is going to happen and be big but in the meantime Asukas gonna do what? Fight Mandy Rose? Peyton Royce?
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Jakyl25
12/16/18 11:08:07 PM
#60:


OMG that Lita joke just now
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StealThisSheen
12/16/18 11:08:13 PM
#61:


TheRock1525 posted...
StealThisSheen posted...
Like I said in the other topic, WWE was definitely trying to train the crowd to cheer for Asuka over the others and it seems like it worked


They needed to train the crowd to cheer a character that has been babyface since the moment she joined the WWE?


Can you read?

This is an honest concern that I have.
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Eddv
12/16/18 11:10:09 PM
#62:


Anyway, solid show.

Main Event ending aside it was easily MOTN.

followed by Rondas match, followed by AJ/bryan.

Did you ever think we would see the day where the best two matches were womens title matches and then not completely trash the show?
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TheRock1525
12/16/18 11:12:01 PM
#63:


StealThisSheen posted...
Can you read?

This is an honest concern that I have.


They were gonna cheer an Asuka win no matter what, they didn't need to be trained to cheer it over Becky or Charlotte.

Asuka is kind of a very well liked babyface.
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Jakyl25
12/16/18 11:12:45 PM
#64:


Who would have guessed Asuka would win 2 PPV main events in 2018
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TheRock1525
12/16/18 11:14:03 PM
#65:


Jakyl25 posted...
Who would have guessed Asuka would win 2 PPV main events in 2018


And book ending the year, too!
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StealThisSheen
12/16/18 11:14:05 PM
#66:


TheRock1525 posted...
StealThisSheen posted...
Can you read?

This is an honest concern that I have.


They were gonna cheer an Asuka win no matter what, they didn't need to be trained to cheer it over Becky or Charlotte.

Asuka is kind of a very well liked babyface.


I'm just gonna block you because you don't know how to not be an asshole over the most stupid shit

Goodbye
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TheRock1525
12/16/18 11:16:30 PM
#67:


StealThisSheen posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
StealThisSheen posted...
Can you read?

This is an honest concern that I have.


They were gonna cheer an Asuka win no matter what, they didn't need to be trained to cheer it over Becky or Charlotte.

Asuka is kind of a very well liked babyface.


I'm just gonna block you because you don't know how to not be an asshole over the most stupid shit

Goodbye


I'm pretty confused here because this went from zero to 100 in five seconds but no real loss.

Like what is SEP even arguing? "Asuka needed to beat down Charlotte and Becky to train the audience to cheer her over them."

People LIKE Asuka.
They were gonna like Asuka winning regardless of any beatdown.

Because she's a well-liked babyface.

*shrug*
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ScareChan
12/16/18 11:17:57 PM
#68:


TheRock1525 posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Who would have guessed Asuka would win 2 PPV main events in 2018


And book ending the year, too!


and both times upstaged by Ronda
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Eddv
12/16/18 11:20:05 PM
#69:


She's well liked but her reception was like FAIRLY lukewarm. Like she got cheers and like....a reaction. She's not some Dean Ambrose over here. Its just... no one actually wanted her to win I dont think.

Also just since we were ragging on WWE earlier for its camera work, that shot Asuka celebrating like a geek in the background with Beckys rageface in the foreground was great shit. Made me want to see Becky beat the ever loving piss out of Asuka.
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TheRock1525
12/16/18 11:20:10 PM
#70:


ScareChan posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Who would have guessed Asuka would win 2 PPV main events in 2018


And book ending the year, too!


and both times upstaged by Ronda


And Ronda didn't say a word.

Omg is WWE doing long term booking?!?!
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TheRock1525
12/16/18 11:21:58 PM
#71:


Eddv posted...
She's well liked but her reception was like FAIRLY lukewarm.


Seemed like a damn good pop to me but I'm watching on headphones.
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Jakyl25
12/16/18 11:24:11 PM
#72:


TheRock1525 posted...
ScareChan posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Who would have guessed Asuka would win 2 PPV main events in 2018


And book ending the year, too!


and both times upstaged by Ronda


And Ronda didn't say a word.

Omg is WWE doing long term booking?!?!


Is it long term booking, or did they just fold 2018 in on itself?

Of course the exact center of the black hole is the Rollins vs Ziggler Iron Man Match
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Eddv
12/16/18 11:26:14 PM
#73:


TheRock1525 posted...
Eddv posted...
She's well liked but her reception was like FAIRLY lukewarm.


Seemed like a damn good pop to me but I'm watching on headphones.


I mean im not gonna sit here and count decibels but they popped big for Ronda and then like there was only a little bit of pop left after that for Asuka and as she sat there celebrating it was pretty quiet even as shes like screaming or whatever.

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TheRock1525
12/16/18 11:27:06 PM
#74:


Eddv posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
Eddv posted...
She's well liked but her reception was like FAIRLY lukewarm.


Seemed like a damn good pop to me but I'm watching on headphones.


I mean im not gonna sit here and count decibels but they popped big for Ronda and then like there was only a little bit of pop left after that for Asuka and as she sat there celebrating it was pretty quiet even as shes like screaming or whatever.

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I heard a ton of boos for Ronda even before she got to the ring because everyone knew what she was gonna do.
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Eddv
12/16/18 11:29:35 PM
#75:


yeah a pop is a pop, it doesnt have to be cheers.

My point is its a thin needle to thread getting the crowd OUTRAGED AT THIS MISCARRIAGE OF JUSTICE and then ALSO CHEER FOR THE NEW BABYFACE CHAMP.

Of course they maybe I guess expected Ronda to be cheered and for this be a Braun Strowman situation...

Seriously this was TLC: 12 ways to avoid putting over a babyface. Ronda/Nia aside they really botched that all night.
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StealThisSheen
12/16/18 11:32:31 PM
#76:


Eddv posted...
My point is its a thin needle to thread getting the crowd OUTRAGED AT THIS MISCARRIAGE OF JUSTICE and then ALSO CHEER FOR THE NEW BABYFACE CHAMP.


This is pretty much what I was getting at.

They atleast suspected people wouldn't like Becky getting screwed, so they've been trying to work Asuka fans into a fervor again to try and mitigate that. The Asuka buildup/stuff like the beatdown were their attempts to help that.
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ExThaNemesis
12/16/18 11:38:54 PM
#77:


did we just have someone block someone else due to the reception Asuka was intended to get in her title win
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StealThisSheen
12/16/18 11:43:36 PM
#78:


ExThaNemesis posted...
did we just have someone block someone else due to the reception Asuka was intended to get in her title win


No. Rock's just been going out of his way to argue with people a lot lately and it was already getting super annoying.

Like, the other day we were arguing because I said WWE was trying to push Asuka as a bigger face than Becky and that WWE saw Becky more as a tweener at most, and Rock for some reason started an argument over it saying I was wrong and it was in the cards for Becky to be the mega star face and all that

So then tonight when I reiterate that... Yeah, WWE had been trying to push Asuka to get the reception tonight, Rock goes "Well obviously she got that reaction!"

It was just too much, man. Too much. He tries to start fights with certain people over anything.
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TheRock1525
12/16/18 11:44:15 PM
#79:


ExThaNemesis posted...
did we just have someone block someone else due to the reception Asuka was intended to get in her title win


It's more along the lines that he argued "the audience needed to be trained to be ok with Asuka winning over Becky and Charlotte" and I argued "Asuka is well liked and would be cheered regardless of what they did."
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TheRock1525
12/16/18 11:44:56 PM
#80:


StealThisSheen posted...
Rock's just been going out of his way to argue with people a lot lately


Oh the irony hearing this from SEP of all people.
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TheRock1525
12/16/18 11:46:06 PM
#81:


StealThisSheen posted...
Rock for some reason started an argument over it saying I was wrong and it was in the cards for Becky to be the mega star face and all that


Also not what I argued either.

I said Becky was being pushed as a babyface who worked closely along the heel line.
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Jakyl25
12/16/18 11:46:29 PM
#82:


I want to reference the segment that inspired the topic title

That was such a GREAT little move by WWE that I wouldnt have expected them to bother to do

But it makes Becky feel more authentic and thus more must-see

Great job!
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Eddv
12/16/18 11:49:29 PM
#83:


StealThisSheen posted...
Eddv posted...
My point is its a thin needle to thread getting the crowd OUTRAGED AT THIS MISCARRIAGE OF JUSTICE and then ALSO CHEER FOR THE NEW BABYFACE CHAMP.


This is pretty much what I was getting at.

They atleast suspected people wouldn't like Becky getting screwed, so they've been trying to work Asuka fans into a fervor again to try and mitigate that. The Asuka buildup/stuff like the beatdown were their attempts to help that.


Don't take this the wrong way but I basically give 0 shits about that.

This was much simpler if you wanted this result to have Charlotte about to win and Ronda screw her and then have Asuka actually defeat Becky so she doesn't look like such a geek. Or else book someone who is actually a heel here like Peyton Royce or pre turn Carmella.

I don't think that putting Asuka over Becky at this time is a good idea and obviously neither do they. yet they wanted to get the title off of Becky either way, presumably because Becky is winning the womens rumble and challenging Ronda at mania.

The end of match reactions pretty much match that too. Becky clearly incensed at Asuka while Charlotte was just mad in general.

I am guessing we get Charlotte and Ronda at the Rumble and Becky bowling over Asuka and getting her win back en route to winning Rumble.
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TheRock1525
12/16/18 11:52:36 PM
#84:


More likely we get Becky demanding her rematch and Charlotte costing her the match via DQ.

Then Becky wins the Rumble and faces Ronnie at WM.
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Jakyl25
12/16/18 11:52:48 PM
#85:


WWE PPV main event winners in 2018

Asuka
Roman Reigns
AJ Styles
Brock Lesnar
Braun Strowman
Roman Reigns
Braun Strowman
Dolph Ziggler
Roman Reigns
NO ONE LOL
Triple H
Ronda Rousey
Triple H/Shawn Michaels
Brock Lesnar
Asuka

What a strange year
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StealThisSheen
12/16/18 11:53:13 PM
#86:


I'm not actually saying I think it was a good decision or anything. I agree it was questionable and could have been done much better.

I was simply saying WWE thought they needed to boost Asuka leading into this and so it makes more sense now why Asuka got said boost after doing nothing all year, which Rock disagreed with for some reason. Nothing more.
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TheRock1525
12/16/18 11:56:11 PM
#87:


StealThisSheen posted...
I was simply saying WWE thought they needed to boost Asuka leading into this and so it makes more sense now why Asuka got said boost after doing nothing all year, which Rock disagreed with for some reason.


Note this is radically different than saying they needed to "train" the audience.

Needing to boost Asuka as a credible threat is literally why I argued the segment made sense.
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Jakyl25
12/17/18 12:00:04 AM
#88:


I looked up Asukas televised matches since she lost at WM

17-10-1 since and including her loss to Charlotte

Wow it really was that bad
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Eddv
12/17/18 12:02:06 AM
#89:


My point is its just wishy washy and its strange to make your baby face win via fluke and expect it to be well liked especially when the people you're putting her over are significantly more popular.

It also just occurred to me that its becoming a strange throughline in Becky's character that triple threats are bullshit.
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ScareChan
12/17/18 12:05:24 AM
#90:


does MMC count as televised
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Jakyl25
12/17/18 12:07:51 AM
#91:


ScareChan posted...
does MMC count as televised


Yes
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TheRock1525
12/17/18 12:14:18 AM
#92:


Eddv posted...
My point is its just wishy washy and its strange to make your baby face win via fluke and expect it to be well liked especially when the people you're putting her over are significantly more popular.

It also just occurred to me that its becoming a strange throughline in Becky's character that triple threats are bullshit.


I mean I literally said Asuka got Bayley'd.
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scarletspeed7
12/17/18 12:19:09 AM
#93:


Asuka is still over at least.
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TheRock1525
12/17/18 12:27:35 AM
#94:


scarletspeed7 posted...
Asuka is still over at least.


So was Bayley when she got her first undeserved title reign.
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scarletspeed7
12/17/18 12:36:37 AM
#95:


For sure, but I think Asuka has more potential to stay over than Bayley.
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TheRock1525
12/17/18 1:25:48 AM
#96:


So the rumors are Vince is coming back to announce a new draft.

So THAT'S how they get Charlotte and Becky on RAW.
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Jakyl25
12/17/18 1:30:59 AM
#97:


Is he gonna announce it for January?

Because what freaking silliness to do it tomorrow
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Jakyl25
12/17/18 1:33:16 AM
#98:


Look at this Trios team thats gonna be in the WK gauntlet match

Ryusuke Taguchi, Togi Makabe and Toru Yano

Fucking WHAT
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scarletspeed7
12/17/18 1:40:43 AM
#99:


If I laugh that hard, I'll die.
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Jakyl25
12/17/18 1:49:15 AM
#100:


https://twitter.com/wweasuka/status/1074545230337040384?s=21

Thank you for supporting us, always.
Thanks to you, the final party was a huge success.
Who is the champion now?...... Its me, Asuka


I want a shirt that says

FRONT
Who is the Champion now?
*Asuka shrugging*

BACK
Its me, Asuka
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