Current Events > Really good video about motion controls, their stigma, and their utility.

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Worth a watch tbh. Really good stuff.
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Also this is one of my favorite tweet convos of all time
https://twitter.com/DOOM/status/965969699992416257?s=19
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There is absolutely no justification for motion controls. Their implementation will be never be anything more than a novelty that wears off, we've had perfectly fine way of connecting avatar to player for decades now and it's called a controller and there's absolutely no need to keep trying to reinvent the wheel.
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ZombiePelican posted...

There is absolutely no justification for motion controls. Their implementation will be never be anything more than a novelty that wears off, we've had perfectly fine way of connecting avatar to player for decades now and it's called a controller and there's absolutely no need to keep trying to reinvent the wheel.

Fucking lmao

Did you even watch the video

Edit: oh wait didn't realize this was ZombiePelican don't know why I'm even bothering to respond lmao
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Timohtep posted...

Prove me wrong. I'm not expecting much what with you being the Nintendo fanboy you are, but this should be good for a mild chuckle
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ZombiePelican posted...

Prove me wrong. I'm not expecting much what with you being the Nintendo fanboy you are, but this should be good for a mild chuckle

Did you even watch the video
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Timohtep posted...

Did you even watch the video

I'm like halfway done and so far it's just biased ramblings from a blatant Nintendo fanboy. He unironically compared the control stick to gimmicky motion controls which is a joke, also him saying PC gamers have "embraced" gyroscopic controls when like 5 people use it is a joke
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ZombiePelican posted...

Timohtep posted...

Did you even watch the video

I'm like halfway done and so far it's just biased ramblings from a blatant Nintendo fanboy. He unironically compared the control stick to gimmicky motion controls which is a joke, also him saying PC gamers have "embraced" gyroscopic controls when like 5 people use it is a joke

You are literally what the video is about. It's about how the Wii really really hurt motion controls as a concept because people like you blindly think that it's gimmicky garbage when it is LITERALLY FACTUALLY faster and more accurate than dual sticks. This is not arguable. That's like saying that m/kb is a gimmick. You are exactly the kind of person that's stopping progress. Motion aiming players are factually better than non motion. This is discussed heavily in the video.

Feel free to literally have incorrect opinions and be stuck in the past. I'll be more comfortable and a better shot with my gyro controller than you ever will be with twin sticks.
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Why are you responding to ZombiePelican lol
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legendarylemur posted...

Why are you responding to ZombiePelican lol

I dunno, I'm compelled.
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Yeah I guess much like talking to anti-vaxxers, when you see stupidity of that level, you just have to say something as a citizen of this planet huh. Still, we gotta try our best to just not give him attention
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Timohtep posted...

You are literally what the video is about.

I watched it and the video is wrong and blatantly biased swill you only agree with because of your obsessive brand loyalty towards Nintendo

Timohtep posted...

. It's about how the Wii really really hurt motion controls as a concept because people like you blindly think that it's gimmicky garbage when it is LITERALLY FACTUALLY faster and more accurate than dual sticks. This is not arguable.

Doesn't matter, motion controls take much longer to perform actions that can be done with the press of a button and until they can beat that, they'll never replace the traditional controller no matter how mnay times companies like Nintendo fail at reinventing the wheel time and time again.

Timohtep posted...

That's like saying that m/kb is a gimmick.

Not at all, the m/kb have been a standard PC control since pretty much the start and control sticks were a natural evolution from the pad when we went from 2D to 3D. What's leaps and bounds happened that made motion controls absolutely need to be implemented? Oh right none, just a single company obsessed with changing the game because they can't keep up with everyone else

Timohtep posted...

You are exactly the kind of person that's stopping progress. Motion aiming players are factually better than non motion. This is discussed heavily in the video.

I saw but it's still irrelevant when those actions can take more than a few seconds as opposed to half a second with a controller. Also calling motion controls progress is a joke, they're a novelty gimmick and will never be anything more, after a while that wears off and you just want to pick up a traditional controller

Timohtep posted...

Feel free to literally have incorrect opinions and be stuck in the past.

Irony considering all the novelty trash Nintendo has put out claiming to be the future of how we control our games only to fizzle out and be forgotten with time and the one thing that has remained is the traditional controller.

Timohtep posted...

I'll be more comfortable and a better shot with my gyro controller than you ever will be with twin sticks.

You'll be dead by that time because I'd have already pushed a button blowing your brains out whole your arm is still halfway towards your screen
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Honestly, play Splatoon 2 with and without motion controls and see which one plays better. Hint:its motion controls. that shit works fam.
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ZombiePelican posted...

Irony considering all the novelty trash Nintendo has put out claiming to be the future of how we control our games only to fizzle out and be forgotten with time and the one thing that has remained is the traditional controller.

Look who missed the part where Sony has fully integrated motion into their standard controller and missed that Nintendo has kept motion in their controllers for 10 years

And glad to see given almost an hour and the only thing even resembling an argument you actually have is "muh input lag" when A) the speed of motion controls faaaaaaar outspeeds sticks even with fictional input lag and B) that input lag doesn't even exist in any truly noticeable capacity.

ZombiePelican posted...

, they'll never replace the traditional controller

Oh hey look who keeps missing the point. The video literally talks about how motion controls are a supplement, not a full replacement. No one in their right mind would say you can 100% replace controllers with motion lmao

ZombiePelican posted...

What's leaps and bounds happened that made motion controls absolutely need to be implemented? Oh right none, just a single company obsessed with changing the game because they can't keep up with everyone else

Look who forgot that literally every company copied Nintendo when they did motion controls. And like I said Sony has gyro built in to their standard controller.

ZombiePelican posted...

You'll be dead by that time because I'd have already pushed a button blowing your brains out whole your arm is still halfway towards your screen

Thanks for the laughs and the free bumps. Keep on replying and making yourself look like a fool, it only helps the point of this video.
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Timohtep posted...

Look who missed the part where Sony has fully integrated motion into their standard controller and missed that Nintendo has kept motion in their controllers for 10 years

Irrelavant as it's usuage has dried up like all novelties and no games use it anymore

Timohtep posted...

And glad to see given almost an hour and the only thing even resembling an argument you actually have is "muh input lag" when A) the speed of motion controls faaaaaaar outspeeds sticks even with fictional input lag and B) that input lag doesn't even exist in any truly noticeable capacity.

This is bait? It takes less than a second to push a button to make an action happen while it objectively takes longer to move your arm to the screen to make a waggle action happen

Timohtep posted...

Oh hey look who keeps missing the point. The video literally talks about how motion controls are a supplement, not a full replacement. No one in their right mind would say you can 100% replace controllers with motion lmao

Well the video is flat out wrong and just the incessant whining. Motion controls will never go past the level of novelty and the current state of gaming shows that. Remember how the Kinect was universally reviled because it was mandatory with the launch Xbone? I swear if we were in the 80s, you'd be telling me how I'm holding back gaming by not embracing the power glove or all the other shitty gimmick controllers put out by Nintendo during the NES era

Timohtep posted...

Look who forgot that literally every company copied Nintendo when they did motion controls.

Because huge corporations view following trends as avoiding taking risks and as easy money even if us on the consumer level know all too well that doesn't work. Timohtep posted...

And like I said Sony has gyro built in to their standard controller.

Which is irrelevant because absolutely no games use it past the first couple of exclusives put out by Sony at the start of the gen. Hell look at the gimmicky touchpad Sony put in the middle of the DS4 that only exists to kill battery life, look at all the devs who did unique and interesting things with it, oh wait none did because it's a novelty gimmick that adds another layer of BS to development time and devs don't want to bother with

Timohtep posted...

Keep on replying and making yourself look like a fool,

Irony coming from the Nintendo fanboy so desperate to convince people motion controls aren't a gimmick whose novelty wears off
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ZombiePelican posted...

takes less than a second to push a button to make an action happen while it objectively takes longer to move your arm to the screen to make a waggle action happen

How do you not understand lmao

Literally no one is saying waggle is good. The video says in the first two minutes that waggle is bad. This video is all about how waggle made a bad name for motion controls when it is factually better and the future for aiming.

Please learn to actually pay attention.

ZombiePelican posted...

Motion controls will never go past the level of novelty

So you're saying that no one will ever use motion controls seriously and no one actually wants them? You're wrong. See Splatoon 2, Doom, Fortnite, literally every shooter on Switch and the fact that many people opt for it on PC.
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I don't really need a video to tell me the obvious. They have potential as long as they're not forced into old styles of gameplay. If a game is designed around it from the ground up it tends to work better. People's perceptions are skewed because of the former.
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SpiralDrift posted...

I don't really need a video to tell me the obvious. They have potential as long as they're not forced into old styles of gameplay. If a game is designed around it from the ground up it tends to work better. People's perceptions are skewed because of the former.

Not necessarily. A large portion of the video talks about how it's bullshit that you can use a Dualshock 4 to use motion aiming on Steam for games not designed with it in mind, but it's impossible to use motion aiming in 99% of games on the PS4 because almost no devs will put it in as an option. It really is an interesting video. You should watch it.
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