Board 8 > I finally broke and bought the rest of the zero escape series

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Johnbobb
05/01/19 5:12:49 PM
#1:


best one? - Results (70 votes)
999
42.86% (30 votes)
30
virtue's last reward
48.57% (34 votes)
34
zero time dilemma
8.57% (6 votes)
6
999 was possibly the first visual novel game I ever played (that or Ace Attorney). Wasn't really a genre I had any interest in but those two games in particular were extremely highly praised by people here so I went for it

years later I still haven't played another zero escape game but they're all on sale on PS4 so fuck it might as well

that and the Ace Attorney games I played on my laptop so I'm not sure what to expect from playing on PS4
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Johnbobb
05/01/19 5:13:46 PM
#2:


for what it's worth this board is ALSO the reason I played DDLC and the Danganronpa games

y'all have a type huh
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MrSmartGuy
05/01/19 5:15:11 PM
#3:


VLR > 999 > ZTD

Oh hey, this should be the next gaming trio ranking topic I do!
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Arti
05/01/19 5:15:39 PM
#4:


VLR > 999 > ZTD but all three are great
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Bane_Of_Despair
05/01/19 5:18:00 PM
#5:


999 > ZTD > VLR
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Johnbobb
05/01/19 5:21:10 PM
#6:


already fucking hate the bunny thing
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OrangeCrush980
05/01/19 5:21:42 PM
#7:


VLR is da best
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Johnbobb
05/01/19 5:23:28 PM
#8:


oh geez these controls will take getting used to

L1/R1 to move view instead of the right analog stick
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Arti
05/01/19 5:24:09 PM
#9:


Johnbobb posted...
already fucking hate the bunny thing


man he's like one of the best characters
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Dels
05/01/19 5:25:55 PM
#10:


Johnbobb posted...
already fucking hate the bunny thing


please tell me you at least hate monokuma then
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Nrrr
05/01/19 5:28:46 PM
#11:


Johnbobb posted...
already fucking hate the bunny thing


(throws rotten vegetables in your general direction)
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Johnbobb
05/01/19 5:36:33 PM
#12:


Dels posted...
Johnbobb posted...
already fucking hate the bunny thing


please tell me you at least hate monokuma then

I do

but Monomi is 100x worse
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Zigzagoon
05/01/19 5:37:45 PM
#13:


Arti posted...
Johnbobb posted...
already fucking hate the bunny thing


man he's like one of the best characters

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Johnbobb
05/01/19 5:38:51 PM
#14:


sweet found both passwords for the first room

everything's coming up millhouse
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Johnbobb
05/01/19 5:39:55 PM
#15:


I mean he hasn't really done anything yet

I just don't have a fondness for weird animal mascots in (primarily) Japanese games

Morgana in P5 was the same way
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Johnbobb
05/01/19 5:42:10 PM
#16:


TWO MlLKMEN GO COMEDY
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Johnbobb
05/01/19 5:46:01 PM
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"I'm not Batman, or Spiderman, or Aquaman, or a merman, or a wolfman. I'm not a brahman, or common, or ramen. I'm not a caiman either."

...I'm not sure how to respond to any of that

a girl is no one
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LeonhartFour
05/01/19 5:46:20 PM
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LordoftheMorons
05/01/19 5:49:45 PM
#19:


ZTD > VLR > 999
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TsunamiXXVIII
05/01/19 5:49:54 PM
#20:


Johnbobb posted...
already fucking hate the bunny thing


Are you playing with the English audio or Japanese? (Is that even an option on that version? I know it's an option on some versions but not others).

Because I feel like he could be annoying if you're just reading his lines while listening to the Japanese VAs. Cindy Robinson's delivery really sells it though.
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Johnbobb
05/01/19 5:50:19 PM
#21:


English audio
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MrSmartGuy
05/01/19 5:51:18 PM
#22:


Also, heads up. Some of the gold files spoil shit before they're supposed to, so maybe hold off on reading them all until you're done with the game.
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Johnbobb
05/01/19 5:52:19 PM
#23:


MrSmartGuy posted...
Also, heads up. Some of the gold files spoil shit before they're supposed to, so maybe hold off on reading them all until you're done with the game.

nice tip

was wondering what that Milkmen thing was about; then like 3 minutes later I'm out of the elevator and see it
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Johnbobb
05/01/19 5:56:17 PM
#24:


wait is that clover, clover?

like axe crazy clover?
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Zigzagoon
05/01/19 5:57:23 PM
#25:


If me, Arti AND leonhart agree on something, it must be true
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LeonhartFour
05/01/19 5:58:13 PM
#26:


Zigzagoon posted...
If me, Arti AND leonhart agree on something, it must be true


either that or the universe is about to implode
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Xiahou Shake
05/01/19 6:14:02 PM
#28:


Woah so much VLR love is actually super surprising to me!

ZTD > 999 > VLR for me, but I really do love all of them.
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Johnbobb
05/01/19 6:15:02 PM
#29:


OH MY GOD HOW MANY TIMES IS IT GOING TO EXPLAIN THE COLOR COMBINATIONS

I GET IT

this game doesn't think the player is very smart
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Johnbobb
05/01/19 6:18:01 PM
#30:


went through the cyan door with alice

gonna save here and go make dinner
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Bane_Of_Despair
05/01/19 6:18:23 PM
#31:


yea board 8 is all over VLR the most of the three

I don't agree but hey it's still a fun game
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LeonhartFour
05/01/19 6:18:42 PM
#32:


Johnbobb posted...
HOW MANY TIMES IS IT GOING TO EXPLAIN THE COLOR COMBINATIONS


every single time

Xiahou Shake posted...
Woah so much VLR love is actually super surprising to me!


I'm surprised you're surprised! This is pretty typical!
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htaeD
05/01/19 6:30:33 PM
#33:


ZTD over anything is sacrilege
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GranzonEx
05/01/19 6:34:05 PM
#34:


VLR more like door opening simulator
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Johnbobb
05/01/19 6:44:06 PM
#35:


GranzonEx posted...
VLR more like door opening simulator

I mean

that's basically what the last one was too
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LeonhartFour
05/01/19 6:44:55 PM
#36:


it's what the entire series is so it's an odd insult to level at one game in particular
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MC_XD
05/01/19 6:52:37 PM
#38:


Zigzagoon posted...
Arti posted...
Johnbobb posted...
already fucking hate the bunny thing


man he's like one of the best characters


This.

Also VLR > 999 >> ZTD for me
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GranzonEx
05/01/19 6:57:29 PM
#39:


there's way too much backtracking in VLR that the door opening animation gets annoying

never had that problem with 999 and ZTD
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MysteriousStan
05/01/19 7:00:08 PM
#40:


For me it goes VLR > 999 > ZTD

Oh Cyan door, good luck!
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Bane_Of_Despair
05/01/19 7:07:15 PM
#41:


Majority of people putting VLR as the best

kMOkd0N
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foolm0r0n
05/01/19 7:19:36 PM
#42:


999 >>>>> ZTD ~= VLR

999 was made as a standalone story and it shows so hard. VLR only felt like the set up for the trilogy and ZTD only felt like the ending. It ended up being a really awesome trilogy, but there's just nothing as completely satisfying as 999. Especially if it was your first VN. 999 is just the most grounded and best written without diving deep into anime nonsense. I would recommend it to any non-VN non-anime fan, unlike the others. It also does things that just can't ever be done a second time by any other game.

That said, VLR and ZTD brilliantly use the fact that they are sequels in their stories. They really weren't afraid to add a bunch of new risky things instead of just doing the same thing again.
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foolm0r0n
05/01/19 7:20:31 PM
#43:


LeonhartFour posted...
it's what the entire series is so it's an odd insult to level at one game in particular

I was promised 9 doors not 150 doors
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Bane_Of_Despair
05/01/19 7:22:30 PM
#44:


foolm0r0n posted...
999 >>>>> ZTD ~= VLR

999 was made as a standalone story and it shows so hard. VLR only felt like the set up for the trilogy and ZTD only felt like the ending. It ended up being a really awesome trilogy, but there's just nothing as completely satisfying as 999. Especially if it was your first VN. 999 is just the most grounded and best written without diving deep into anime nonsense. I would recommend it to any non-VN non-anime fan, unlike the others. It also does things that just can't ever be done a second time by any other game.

That said, VLR and ZTD brilliantly use the fact that they are sequels in their stories. They really weren't afraid to add a bunch of new risky things instead of just doing the same thing again.

This is about how I feel
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Bane_Of_Despair
05/01/19 7:23:18 PM
#45:


although I still consider ZTD better than VLR not quite as equal
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foolm0r0n
05/01/19 7:25:41 PM
#46:


Gun to my head I would say ZTD > VLR also
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Johnbobb
05/01/19 7:37:41 PM
#47:


999 was Saw II
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Johnbobb
05/01/19 10:37:44 PM
#48:


Finished the quarters puzzle (I already get the "too many doors" complaint)

Then I betrayed Alice

also Phi is pretty great so far

Right now I'm assuming the way to win ultimately is to select the path that will lead to everyone always choosing Ally (or not choosing at all) and I'm pretty sure I'm already not on that path
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Johnbobb
05/01/19 10:43:14 PM
#49:


man for a series known for its tricky puzzles it REALLY REALLY doesn't trust the intelligence of the player

I GET WHAT THE BRACELETS DO

IT'S SO OBVIOUS
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LapisLazuli
05/01/19 10:44:51 PM
#50:


Oh hey I'm a rare ZTD vote.

I replayed the entire series in a row a few months ago and came to that conclusion.

Mainly though it's because of how insanely much I love Group D's stuff. Twins conslusion had me jumping up an down yelling. Though that's directly because of the VLR payoff, so cheating a bit.
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MrSmartGuy
05/01/19 10:50:04 PM
#51:


I feel like we do this every time a visual novel topic goes up, but how about we not fucking spoil games the TC hasn't even touched yet in his own playthrough topic? Even with spoiler tags, just..... don't. It's not hard.
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Raka_Putra
05/01/19 10:50:08 PM
#52:


999 > VLR > ZTD
For what foolmo said.
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