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soulunison2
05/10/19 7:56:47 PM
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Round 2 game 2 of draft I played bontu on curve and my opponent conceded on the spot

He goes I cant answer that i was like damn
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soulunison2
05/11/19 12:21:00 AM
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we need a magic the gathering general again
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KamenRiderBlade
05/11/19 12:24:00 AM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/2000397-collectible-card-games-magic-the-gathering
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soulunison2
05/11/19 12:26:03 AM
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but we need a ce general
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Turbam
05/11/19 12:26:11 AM
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I wouldn't mind having a Bolis for my dragon EDH
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Questionmarktarius
05/11/19 12:34:05 AM
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I wandered off from MTG about the same time Counterspell did.
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Dragonblade01
05/11/19 12:41:17 AM
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A friend tried to explain Magic to me once.

Pretty sure he was speaking a different language.
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Number090684
05/11/19 1:12:07 AM
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Yeah, the the God Eternal mythics in this expansion can be extremely difficult to deal with in a draft if you aren't in white and blue. Bontu, while strong, isn't even that bad unless you've got a good amount of tokens, or creatures that create tokens, or lots of spare land to sacrifice to refuel your hand. Oketra is the most ridiculous one in limited IMO, because if they don't answer it immediately and you've got creatures to cast they've pretty much lost because they are going to get overwhelmed by vigilant 4/4s, unless they have or draw into a board wipe right after.
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kayoticdreamz
05/11/19 1:53:25 AM
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it's always been this way in damn near every TCG ever. Something is always stupidly pricey and OP until power creep sets in and it gets surpassed or sets rotate out.
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DrizztLink
05/11/19 1:54:48 AM
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I remember Black Lotus being a big deal.

That's how long ago my Magic experience was.
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soulunison2
05/11/19 2:08:16 AM
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kayoticdreamz posted...
it's always been this way in damn near every TCG ever. Something is always stupidly pricey and OP until power creep sets in and it gets surpassed or sets rotate out.


this is draft though
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Number090684
05/11/19 3:24:49 AM
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soulunison2 posted...
kayoticdreamz posted...
it's always been this way in damn near every TCG ever. Something is always stupidly pricey and OP until power creep sets in and it gets surpassed or sets rotate out.


this is draft though


I think it's still relevant in this case.
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kayoticdreamz
05/11/19 5:03:19 AM
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Number090684 posted...
soulunison2 posted...
kayoticdreamz posted...
it's always been this way in damn near every TCG ever. Something is always stupidly pricey and OP until power creep sets in and it gets surpassed or sets rotate out.


this is draft though


I think it's still relevant in this case.

It really is. Yeah drafts can randomize and offset things sometimes, but even still there is usually an OP card(s) that people flock to in drafts during a rotation. And often times outright terrible cards that don't mesh with the rest of the set so no one picks them or one dominate color that is miles ahead of the rest of the pack.
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soulunison2
05/11/19 5:48:53 AM
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kayoticdreamz posted...
Number090684 posted...
soulunison2 posted...
kayoticdreamz posted...
it's always been this way in damn near every TCG ever. Something is always stupidly pricey and OP until power creep sets in and it gets surpassed or sets rotate out.


this is draft though


I think it's still relevant in this case.

It really is. Yeah drafts can randomize and offset things sometimes, but even still there is usually an OP card(s) that people flock to in drafts during a rotation. And often times outright terrible cards that don't mesh with the rest of the set so no one picks them or one dominate color that is miles ahead of the rest of the pack.


Iunno man sometimes I go into this draft with no rares and come out winning
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Questionmarktarius
05/11/19 2:00:38 PM
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Number090684 posted...
soulunison2 posted...
kayoticdreamz posted...
it's always been this way in damn near every TCG ever. Something is always stupidly pricey and OP until power creep sets in and it gets surpassed or sets rotate out.


this is draft though


I think it's still relevant in this case.

It's never been a big secret that Wizards doesn't really care about Limited, apart from, you know, the raw profit of every replacing his or her "collection" for each Magic session.
Limited is just pushed hard because of the profit motive above, and the fact that they can get away with a sort a "fallen empires" design model of maybe a dozen actual good cards per set and the rest paint-by-numbers. All that's really different from the 1994-95 throttledown (and the Masques throttledown) is that Garfield's original "rarer means better" model has doubled down, with the advent of an ultra-rare tier.
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Medussa
05/11/19 2:08:49 PM
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prerelease, I had a 6/6 army token with the enchantment that gives it lifelink. attack, go from 6 to 12 with my opponent having 6 power on board. I win this race easily.

Rhonas, fuck me, I'm dead.
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Ryetoast
05/12/19 6:19:22 PM
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fh1j75N

This guy made me wait for the timeout lol.
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soulunison2
05/12/19 6:36:07 PM
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Ryetoast posted...
fh1j75N

This guy made me wait for the timeout lol.


this isn't even a tilting board wtf lmao
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Ryetoast
05/12/19 6:51:03 PM
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soulunison2 posted...
this isn't even a tilting board wtf lmao


No he's Dead if I he swings and I can tap him down and slow roll him.

I had a Finale of Destiny as my kill. He lost. Plus he had no flyers..

I feel this set is ridiculously underpowered. At least for standard...it seems to cater to Johnny's but I think it has more modern implications.
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Anteaterking
05/12/19 7:04:01 PM
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I just had my draft opponent concede because he countered my Vivian and I immediately played a second one.
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soulunison2
05/12/19 7:16:59 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
i dunno what it is exactly, but i had been playing MTGA almost every day for months, ever since before Ravnica Allegiance came out, and for some reason i'm just not feelin' War of the Spark and the current meta, so i've barely been playing at all for a couple weeks now. i guess it's probably because my Jeskai control deck was so well-tuned to the aggro heavy meta and i was doing so well and having such a blast with it that the meta shake-up which so many planeswalkers brought just hit it really hard. but i have the wildcards to augment it or to build an Esper control deck though, and i just don't really have the inclination right now to spend them and play. i dunno why.


I dont play constructed formats I stick strictly to limited formats, so much more fun than constructed
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Ryetoast
05/12/19 7:34:34 PM
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soulunison2 posted...
dont play constructed formats I stick strictly to limited formats, so much more fun than constructed
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How do you find War of The Spark draft?

I hate it. The speed of Dominaria was my shit.
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soulunison2
05/12/19 7:41:52 PM
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Ryetoast posted...


How do you find War of The Spark draft?

I hate it. The speed of Dominaria was my shit.


it's powerful, like some uncommons are straight up stronger than some rares

but fuck the bomb-yness of the format sometimes, doesn't feel good to lose to a massacre girl won't lie

the format is really technical, Haven't had this much fun since Dominaria, and before that, origins
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Ryetoast
05/12/19 7:45:18 PM
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soulunison2 posted...
it's powerful, like some uncommons are straight up stronger than some rares

but fuck the bomb-yness of the format sometimes, doesn't feel good to lose to a massacre girl won't lie

the format is really technical, Haven't had this much fun since Dominaria, and before that, origins


Yeah it is techincal as hell.

My best archetype has been white weenie. Have went undefeated. It's really hard to do two colors I usually stick with one base and a splash.

Might build a Rakdos deck in paper soon. Minus the blood crypts I'll keep it basic with Dragonskull Summit.
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soulunison2
05/12/19 7:54:04 PM
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Ryetoast posted...
soulunison2 posted...
it's powerful, like some uncommons are straight up stronger than some rares

but fuck the bomb-yness of the format sometimes, doesn't feel good to lose to a massacre girl won't lie

the format is really technical, Haven't had this much fun since Dominaria, and before that, origins


Yeah it is techincal as hell.

My best archetype has been white weenie. Have went undefeated. It's really hard to do two colors I usually stick with one base and a splash.

Might build a Rakdos deck in paper soon. Minus the blood crypts I'll keep it basic with Dragonskull Summit.


I haven't had much luck with aggro strategies considering there's a ton of removal in the set;

in my last 5 drafts (note I do paper drafts, I don't really like drafting with arena bots, they're very dumb) I went with -

Blue Green proliferate 2 -0 split
Blue Green Proliferate 2 - 1
Black Blue - control 0 - 2 drop
Red Green Power 2 - 0 split
Red Black Control (splash blue for Tamiyo's epiphany) 2 - 0 split

I've had a lot of success with tempo oriented decks - it seems like the trick is to keep your opponent off their creature drops and leverage position - chip damage matters immensely, two drops are rare so you need to get as many as you can. planeswalkers make the aggro plan a little worse imo because eyou have to point damage at them too so it's a little iffy and cards like Price of Betrayal become premium removal in this format
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Abiz_
05/12/19 8:10:56 PM
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As a person that likes to play white decks . What packs should I be buying for mtg arena? Should I stick to the core set 2019? Used to play a little when I was in high school. Looks like they finally did MTG right on the computer with arena. So I want to get it a shot.
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Anteaterking
05/12/19 8:13:23 PM
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Abiz_ posted...
As a person that likes to play white decks . What packs should I be buying for mtg arena? Should I stick to the core set 2019? Used to play a little when I was in high school. Looks like they finally did MTG right on the computer with arena. So I want to get it a shot.


Dominaria is better, because it has more of the rares/mythics you need. After you play enough you'll always find that you have endless uncommon/common wildcards.
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soulunison2
05/12/19 8:14:22 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
Abiz_ posted...
As a person that likes to play white decks . What packs should I be buying for mtg arena? Should I stick to the core set 2019? Used to play a little when I was in high school. Looks like they finally did MTG right on the computer with arena. So I want to get it a shot.


Dominaria is better, because it has more of the rares/mythics you need. After you play enough you'll always find that you have endless uncommon/common wildcards.


this, Dominaria has that mythic saga that's like the backbone of the deck
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Abiz_
05/12/19 8:19:07 PM
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Thanks, Also just one more question. There used to be a angel card. That if you landed a direct hit on the player it would make it so they couldn't attack during their turn. Is that still around or did it get left behind.
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Anteaterking
05/12/19 8:38:31 PM
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Abiz_ posted...
Thanks, Also just one more question. There used to be a angel card. That if you landed a direct hit on the player it would make it so they couldn't attack during their turn. Is that still around or did it get left behind.


So Standard is just the last two(ish) years of cards. While there are occasionally reprints, those are mainly of more of the "bread and butter" cards. Blinding Angel hasn't been around since 2005 in Standard.
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