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TallTamryu
05/14/19 3:29:57 AM
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Guess everyone forgot how hilarious Barret was in Advent Children too.
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The_tall_midget
05/14/19 3:32:14 AM
#53:


Bulbasaur posted...
are some of you really trying to argue that Barret, a black character created in the 90s by the Japanese, isn't a gigantic black stereotype?

am i really seeing this


Nobody is saying that. What people are saying, most of us who are sane anyway, is that dumb journalists and random sjw's need to stop being offended about it.
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Bulbasaur
05/14/19 7:52:38 AM
#54:


The_tall_midget posted...
Bulbasaur posted...
are some of you really trying to argue that Barret, a black character created in the 90s by the Japanese, isn't a gigantic black stereotype?

am i really seeing this


Nobody is saying that. What people are saying, most of us who are sane anyway, is that dumb journalists and random sjw's need to stop being offended about it.

it's pretty normal to be offended at racist things.

this is one of them
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SunWuKung420
05/14/19 8:01:04 AM
#55:


The left vs right narrative is another system of control. Stop being sucked into it.
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ninja_lootz
05/14/19 9:03:20 AM
#56:


Sefrig posted...
yeah i'm not really in the business of telling a black woman she's wrong for her opinions on how a black character is portrayed but y'all have fun with that i guess

You are more of a stereotype than Barret.
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Jen0125
05/14/19 10:09:30 AM
#57:


dainkinkaide posted...
Here you go:
https://kotaku.com/fans-are-concerned-about-barrets-voice-in-the-final-fan-1834678296


I don't see anything unreasonable here at all.
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Aculo
05/14/19 12:04:46 PM
#58:


Judgmenl posted...
Youtube hate mongers are a joke, ok?

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Kyuubi4269
05/14/19 12:10:28 PM
#59:


Bulbasaur posted...
The_tall_midget posted...
Bulbasaur posted...
are some of you really trying to argue that Barret, a black character created in the 90s by the Japanese, isn't a gigantic black stereotype?

am i really seeing this


Nobody is saying that. What people are saying, most of us who are sane anyway, is that dumb journalists and random sjw's need to stop being offended about it.

it's pretty normal to be offended at racist things.

this is one of them

Isn't Cid every bad characteristic of Barret but worse and self-serving?

If Barret was portraying black people badly, was Cid a negative portrayal of white people? And was Yuffie a negative portrayal of Japanese people painting them as fighty little thieves?
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OhhhJa
05/14/19 12:11:14 PM
#60:


So its racist that a big black dude sounds like a big black dude and not like a white hipster barista? Sounds like upside down world logic to me
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Jen0125
05/14/19 12:17:15 PM
#61:


I don't understand the people comparing Cid's character to Barrett's. It isn't a stereotype of white men to be vulgar women beaters. Barrett is a straight negative racial stereotype.
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Lokarin
05/14/19 12:22:19 PM
#62:


Jen0125 posted...
Barrett is a straight negative racial stereotype.


Can you specify how since I'm not seeing it in the actual video...? I mean, I'm not saying that you don't have a point - I just only have the one trailer to work with.
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Kyuubi4269
05/14/19 12:26:32 PM
#63:


Jen0125 posted...
It isn't a stereotype of white men to be vulgar women beaters.

Name one woman Barret beats.

He's also an extremely loyal single dad.
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Lokarin
05/14/19 12:28:04 PM
#64:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
Jen0125 posted...
It isn't a stereotype of white men to be vulgar women beaters.

Name one woman Barret beats.

He's also an extremely loyal single dad.


That's like the OPPOSITE of the stereotypes
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Muscles
05/14/19 12:55:21 PM
#65:


If you go looking for racism you'll find it where it doesn't exist
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OhhhJa
05/14/19 12:59:00 PM
#66:


If the sjws have their way, pretty soon nobody will be allowed to listen to, watch, or play anything
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Nade Duck
05/14/19 1:03:53 PM
#67:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
Jen0125 posted...
It isn't a stereotype of white men to be vulgar women beaters.

Name one woman Barret beats.

He's also an extremely loyal single dad.

fucking seriously. literally the only character with any character to his voice and people have to whine about it.
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SmokeMassTree
05/14/19 1:43:39 PM
#68:


Lmao that guy is cancer

He was ousted from the mtg community years ago for saying some borderline rapist shit

I see he hasn't changed
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Aculo
05/14/19 1:57:03 PM
#69:


SmokeMassTree posted...
Lmao that guy is cancer

He was ousted from the mtg community years ago for saying some borderline rapist shit

I see he hasn't changed

the quartering guy?
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SmokeMassTree
05/14/19 1:59:05 PM
#70:


Aculo posted...
SmokeMassTree posted...
Lmao that guy is cancer

He was ousted from the mtg community years ago for saying some borderline rapist shit

I see he hasn't changed

the quartering guy?


Do not harass me any further, ok?
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SunWuKung420
05/14/19 2:00:28 PM
#71:


Oh man.
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SmokeMassTree
05/14/19 2:07:38 PM
#73:


Add flaming to the list of charges officer
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Jen0125
05/14/19 2:13:58 PM
#74:


Nade Duck posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
Jen0125 posted...
It isn't a stereotype of white men to be vulgar women beaters.

Name one woman Barret beats.

He's also an extremely loyal single dad.

fucking seriously. literally the only character with any character to his voice and people have to whine about it.


What? I didn't say Barrett beat women. Someone said Cid is a woman beater and how that's a slight on white men.
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Jen0125
05/14/19 2:14:28 PM
#75:


Lokarin posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Barrett is a straight negative racial stereotype.


Can you specify how since I'm not seeing it in the actual video...? I mean, I'm not saying that you don't have a point - I just only have the one trailer to work with.


I don't know about the trailer but in the actual original game he's a pretty negative racial stereotype.
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Lokarin
05/14/19 2:15:23 PM
#76:


Jen0125 posted...
Lokarin posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Barrett is a straight negative racial stereotype.


Can you specify how since I'm not seeing it in the actual video...? I mean, I'm not saying that you don't have a point - I just only have the one trailer to work with.


I don't know about the trailer but in the actual original game he's a pretty negative racial stereotype.


Oh...

ok, in the original game I can see that somewhat. But it was a different time, people weren't as sensitive to such things back then
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SmokeMassTree
05/14/19 2:17:21 PM
#77:


Jen0125 posted...
Lokarin posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Barrett is a straight negative racial stereotype.


Can you specify how since I'm not seeing it in the actual video...? I mean, I'm not saying that you don't have a point - I just only have the one trailer to work with.


I don't know about the trailer but in the actual original game he's a pretty negative racial stereotype.


Black men sounding like black men is a negative stereotype in 2019 only, not back than
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Aculo
05/14/19 2:17:54 PM
#78:


what was negative about him exactly? as far as i remember he was an integral part of the team, strong, had decent limit breaks, had a cool design, played a strong father role, and helped save the world, ok?

what are people so upset about?
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Mead
05/14/19 2:19:47 PM
#79:


I guess I must just be innately racist because his voice in the trailer sounds pretty much exactly the way it always sounded in my mind when I played the original
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Lokarin
05/14/19 2:21:58 PM
#80:


Aculo posted...
what are people so upset about?


Well, to quote the article

>
Ive never played Final Fantasy VII

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OhhhJa
05/14/19 2:22:13 PM
#81:


SmokeMassTree posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Lokarin posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Barrett is a straight negative racial stereotype.


Can you specify how since I'm not seeing it in the actual video...? I mean, I'm not saying that you don't have a point - I just only have the one trailer to work with.


I don't know about the trailer but in the actual original game he's a pretty negative racial stereotype.


Black men sounding like black men is a negative stereotype in 2019 only, not back than

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OhhhJa
05/14/19 2:22:30 PM
#82:


That's the funny part about most people that scream about racism
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Lokarin
05/14/19 2:22:48 PM
#83:


What if Barrett had a strong Chinese accent?

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Actually that'd be kinda cool
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Jen0125
05/14/19 2:23:07 PM
#84:


Lokarin posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Lokarin posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Barrett is a straight negative racial stereotype.


Can you specify how since I'm not seeing it in the actual video...? I mean, I'm not saying that you don't have a point - I just only have the one trailer to work with.


I don't know about the trailer but in the actual original game he's a pretty negative racial stereotype.


Oh...

ok, in the original game I can see that somewhat. But it was a different time, people weren't as sensitive to such things back then


Not being sensitive to something doesn't mean the negative aspect doesn't exist.
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Jen0125
05/14/19 2:23:36 PM
#85:


OhhhJa posted...
SmokeMassTree posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Lokarin posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Barrett is a straight negative racial stereotype.


Can you specify how since I'm not seeing it in the actual video...? I mean, I'm not saying that you don't have a point - I just only have the one trailer to work with.


I don't know about the trailer but in the actual original game he's a pretty negative racial stereotype.


Black men sounding like black men is a negative stereotype in 2019 only, not back than

Jen is racist for thinking that sounding like a black man is a bad thing


I'm talking about the character, not the voice. Are we just talking about his actual voice?
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Lokarin
05/14/19 2:25:05 PM
#86:


Jen0125 posted...
Lokarin posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Lokarin posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Barrett is a straight negative racial stereotype.


Can you specify how since I'm not seeing it in the actual video...? I mean, I'm not saying that you don't have a point - I just only have the one trailer to work with.


I don't know about the trailer but in the actual original game he's a pretty negative racial stereotype.


Oh...

ok, in the original game I can see that somewhat. But it was a different time, people weren't as sensitive to such things back then


Not being sensitive to something doesn't mean the negative aspect doesn't exist.


I don't mean it in like terms of oversensitivity - that was an era where ANY representation was desirable. People were HAPPY there was a strong black character in a mainstream game.

It's only in hindsight that people are going ' eehhhhh, maybe we coulda toned it down '
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Aculo
05/14/19 2:25:19 PM
#87:


Lokarin posted...
Aculo posted...
what are people so upset about?


Well, to quote the article

>
Ive never played Final Fantasy VII

you always give the worst answers to any of my questions. it's like you're a trove of misinformation, ok?
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Lokarin
05/14/19 2:25:46 PM
#88:


Aculo posted...
misinformation


I literally'd the article
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Jen0125
05/14/19 2:26:26 PM
#89:


If we're literally only talking about his actual tonal voice in the trailer I don't really see an issue. I thought we were talking about his personal representation in the original game.
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OhhhJa
05/14/19 2:26:43 PM
#90:


Jen0125 posted...
OhhhJa posted...
SmokeMassTree posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Lokarin posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Barrett is a straight negative racial stereotype.


Can you specify how since I'm not seeing it in the actual video...? I mean, I'm not saying that you don't have a point - I just only have the one trailer to work with.


I don't know about the trailer but in the actual original game he's a pretty negative racial stereotype.


Black men sounding like black men is a negative stereotype in 2019 only, not back than

Jen is racist for thinking that sounding like a black man is a bad thing


I'm talking about the character, not the voice. Are we just talking about his actual voice?

I mean... I dont think the character is negative either. He was mine and many others favorite character. He was a badass, ok?
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Muscles
05/14/19 2:26:47 PM
#91:


Jen0125 posted...
Lokarin posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Lokarin posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Barrett is a straight negative racial stereotype.


Can you specify how since I'm not seeing it in the actual video...? I mean, I'm not saying that you don't have a point - I just only have the one trailer to work with.


I don't know about the trailer but in the actual original game he's a pretty negative racial stereotype.


Oh...

ok, in the original game I can see that somewhat. But it was a different time, people weren't as sensitive to such things back then


Not being sensitive to something doesn't mean the negative aspect doesn't exist.

I mean, if no one gets offended by it is it really offensive?
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Aculo
05/14/19 2:27:14 PM
#92:


Lokarin posted...
Aculo posted...
misinformation


I literally'd the article

i meant about the character himself. you need to stop, or try harder, lok, ok?
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Lokarin
05/14/19 2:31:05 PM
#93:


Aculo posted...
Lokarin posted...
Aculo posted...
misinformation


I literally'd the article

i meant about the character himself. you need to stop, or try harder, lok, ok?


The writer of the article is complaining that Barret is just an ebonics spewing hyper-masculine Mr. T clone.. and that's it, without having played the game.
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Muscles
05/14/19 2:35:40 PM
#94:


Lokarin posted...
Aculo posted...
Lokarin posted...
Aculo posted...
misinformation


I literally'd the article

i meant about the character himself. you need to stop, or try harder, lok, ok?


The writer of the article is complaining that Barret is just an ebonics spewing hyper-masculine Mr. T clone.. and that's it, without having played the game.

But even if that was true it doesn't necessarily make him a bad character
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FinalFantasyVII
05/14/19 2:36:30 PM
#95:


Kotaku just wants trannies in everything
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Lokarin
05/14/19 2:38:22 PM
#96:


Muscles posted...
Lokarin posted...
Aculo posted...
Lokarin posted...
Aculo posted...
misinformation


I literally'd the article

i meant about the character himself. you need to stop, or try harder, lok, ok?


The writer of the article is complaining that Barret is just an ebonics spewing hyper-masculine Mr. T clone.. and that's it, without having played the game.

But even if that was true it doesn't necessarily make him a bad character


Barret is a great character. He's a devoted father, a loyal friend, ... technically a terrorist..., an amputee, a victim of corporate greed which motivates him to greater ambitions, and goes through a wide spectrum of emotions throughout the game

also an optimist, despite several times his naivety being shattered into what would turn other people into fatalistic nihilists
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Aculo
05/14/19 2:38:41 PM
#97:


Muscles posted...
Lokarin posted...
Aculo posted...
Lokarin posted...
Aculo posted...
misinformation


I literally'd the article

i meant about the character himself. you need to stop, or try harder, lok, ok?


The writer of the article is complaining that Barret is just an ebonics spewing hyper-masculine Mr. T clone.. and that's it, without having played the game.

But even if that was true it doesn't necessarily make him a bad character

if anything, he reminds me a terry crews-like character. intense and loud, which can be considered negative by certain shitty people. but i love terry crews, and i'd say he's the opposite of a negative stereotype, ok?
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Jen0125
05/14/19 3:27:33 PM
#98:


Muscles posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Lokarin posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Lokarin posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Barrett is a straight negative racial stereotype.


Can you specify how since I'm not seeing it in the actual video...? I mean, I'm not saying that you don't have a point - I just only have the one trailer to work with.


I don't know about the trailer but in the actual original game he's a pretty negative racial stereotype.


Oh...

ok, in the original game I can see that somewhat. But it was a different time, people weren't as sensitive to such things back then


Not being sensitive to something doesn't mean the negative aspect doesn't exist.

I mean, if no one gets offended by it is it really offensive?


But some people are obviously offended as seen in that article.
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Muscles
05/14/19 3:34:35 PM
#99:


Some people just find reasons to get offended though and we shouldn't take them seriously
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SmokeMassTree
05/14/19 3:41:02 PM
#100:


Jen0125 posted...
Muscles posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Lokarin posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Lokarin posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Barrett is a straight negative racial stereotype.


Can you specify how since I'm not seeing it in the actual video...? I mean, I'm not saying that you don't have a point - I just only have the one trailer to work with.


I don't know about the trailer but in the actual original game he's a pretty negative racial stereotype.


Oh...

ok, in the original game I can see that somewhat. But it was a different time, people weren't as sensitive to such things back then


Not being sensitive to something doesn't mean the negative aspect doesn't exist.

I mean, if no one gets offended by it is it really offensive?


But some people are obviously offended as seen in that article.


One person is "offended" to get clicks

As seen in that article
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Nade Duck
05/14/19 4:10:22 PM
#101:


Mead posted...
I guess I must just be innately racist because his voice in the trailer sounds pretty much exactly the way it always sounded in my mind when I played the original

u gonna burn 4 dis bro
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The_tall_midget
05/14/19 4:48:13 PM
#102:


Muscles posted...
Some people just find reasons to get offended though and we shouldn't take them seriously


This. Every single day sjw's continue to prove that they're a cancer to society.
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