Current Events > NIS, Disgaea dev, is going through pretty bad financial trouble

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WesternMedia
05/18/19 11:15:38 PM
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https://www.nintendoenthusiast.com/2019/05/18/disgaea-developer-nis-in-financial-trouble-employees-going-unpaid/


The developer behind the Disgaea series, Nippon Ichi Software (NIS), is not doing well financially. According to an article from Otakomu, which has been translasted by Josh Torres of RPG Site, the most recent titles from the company are not performing well in sales. Because of the numerous financial troubles, NIS reportedly can no longer pay its own employees.

One source of poor revenue is their most recent mobile title, Disgaea RPG, which has suffered from several issues since launch. In response, NIS removed the game from the market to fix it. Unfortunately, this means that NIS has been making no money from the game in the meantime.

In a last-ditch effort to save the company, NIS has issued a Moving Strike (MS) Warrant. In the stock market, an MS is used as a way to raise money without borrowing from banks or investors.

Simply put, NIS will start to sell their stocks at really cheap prices. Unfortunately, this causes the companys overall value to drop in the process.

Its tough to see a company like NIS go through financial troubles. The Disgaea series has a pretty large following, so Im personally hoping they can pull through this. The most recent entry, Disgaea 5, was even ported to Nintendo Switch, reaching sales of over 100,000 units.
As for the Western side of things, NIS America normally publishes games to help make international releases a reality. They have published several Danganronpa titles in North America and some Persona games in Europe, as well as many other fan favorites.

Heres hoping NIS can get through these tough times. Lets all play our favorite games from them to show our support!

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SH_expert44
05/18/19 11:16:13 PM
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This isnt good dood. I need more Etna merch.
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SauI_Goodman
05/18/19 11:16:54 PM
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Not surprising. Although I enjoy their games they're not really a well known widespread company. Often times I wonder if I'm the only one who ever buys their stuff lol.
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Greenfox111
05/18/19 11:17:08 PM
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well i'm not personally a fan of disgaea but i do love me some danganronpa, sucks that this is happening
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SauI_Goodman
05/18/19 11:18:32 PM
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I should state my comments apply only to the Western crowd.
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WesternMedia
05/18/19 11:23:34 PM
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SauI_Goodman posted...
I should state my comments apply only to the Western crowd.

I think the western crowd might be impacted the most by this. I heard besides Disgaea their in-house stuff isnt as popular but they help make a lot of international releases of other games a reality.
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Blue_Inigo
05/18/19 11:27:32 PM
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Im a big Disgaea fan. Saddens me to see they might bite the bullet. Disgaea 5 was a really good game
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legendarylemur
05/18/19 11:58:13 PM
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I thought they were doing ok cuz of Disgaea 5 selling decently well, tbh.

But then again, it's not like that game fucking crashed on me like twice, losing a ton of playtime or anything
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Bad_Mojo
05/19/19 12:06:52 AM
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oarphishmoe
05/19/19 12:08:07 AM
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Are they publishing Trails of Cold Steel 3? Is this going to hinder that?
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marc55
05/19/19 12:28:09 AM
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legendarylemur posted...
I thought they were doing ok cuz of Disgaea 5 selling decently well, tbh.

But then again, it's not like that game fucking crashed on me like twice, losing a ton of playtime or anything

for me that was D2 that game was a mess
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TheAnthraxBunny
05/19/19 12:28:57 AM
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I guess this means that, regardless of whether they pull through or not, we probably won't be getting the rest of the Disgaea games ported to PC any time soon, if at all.
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gunplagirl
05/19/19 12:41:08 AM
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Most of their in house stuff has cult followings but it's hard to sell new players on established series, especially ones with numbers in the title, always a decent way of throwing off rpg players.
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WesternMedia
05/20/19 11:27:20 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
Most of their in house stuff has cult followings but it's hard to sell new players on established series, especially ones with numbers in the title, always a decent way of throwing off rpg players.

Yeah. Even though with Disgaea Im assuming the games arent connected like Final Fantasy right?
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Tryhaptaward
05/20/19 11:29:11 PM
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I heard they completely botched Ys VIII PC port, so fuck em
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s0nicfan
05/20/19 11:30:09 PM
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It's a shame because they've always seemed like a really good company, but I guess being practically the only tactics developer left in the industry doesn't mean much when nobody seems to want to buy tactics games.
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Master_Bass
05/20/19 11:36:41 PM
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Their localizations can be terrible and meme filled, but overall I'm not happy about this news.
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burritosatan
05/20/19 11:42:45 PM
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Thoughts and prayers
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kyujo
05/20/19 11:44:47 PM
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Dang. I love the Disgaea games
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s0nicfan
05/20/19 11:46:09 PM
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If things get bad, hopefully Sega picks them up. They've been pretty good publishers the past few years and the Bayonetta games under Platinum we're basically made without any interference.
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Stagmar
05/21/19 12:01:30 AM
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Every NIS game Ive played has either had a horrible localization, bugs that somehow get added during localization (Ar Tonelicos final boss bug for example), or both.
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05/21/19 12:08:59 AM
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Alucard188
05/21/19 12:11:32 AM
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Stagmar posted...
Every NIS game Ive played has either had a horrible localization, bugs that somehow get added during localization (Ar Tonelicos final boss bug for example), or both.


They buggered Ys 8's localization so badly that they had to actually redo the entire fucking thing. Considering how dense the Cold Steel games' scripts are, I'm seriously hoping they don't fuck those up.
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darkbuster
05/21/19 12:14:37 AM
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Sadly not that surprising. None of their games have ever been huge successes, outside of Disgaea, & they're the only company that's actually dedicated to tactics games, when even Fire Emblem has embraced the waifu route. Maybe they should just concede to trends & make a waifu collecting gacha; if Nintendo can run two simultaneously, surely NIS can manage one.

Probably doesn't help that NISA also doesn't get to publish Idea Factory or Gust titles.
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Tryhaptaward
05/21/19 12:15:23 AM
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Alucard188 posted...
Stagmar posted...
Every NIS game Ive played has either had a horrible localization, bugs that somehow get added during localization (Ar Tonelicos final boss bug for example), or both.


They buggered Ys 8's localization so badly that they had to actually redo the entire fucking thing. Considering how dense the Cold Steel games' scripts are, I'm seriously hoping they don't fuck those up.


I heard the PC version is still bad too
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DoctorVader
05/21/19 12:17:57 AM
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No D6 and DD2 Switch port?

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WesternMedia
05/21/19 12:18:09 AM
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darkbuster posted...
Sadly not that surprising. None of their games have ever been huge successes, outside of Disgaea, & they're the only company that's actually dedicated to tactics games, when even Fire Emblem has embraced the waifu route. Maybe they should just concede to trends & make a waifu collecting gacha; if Nintendo can run two simultaneously, surely NIS can manage one.

Probably doesn't help that NISA also doesn't get to publish Idea Factory or Gust titles.

Well, the mobile Disgaea game they botched and had to recall to fix was one of the possibilities given for why theyre currently in this situation.
Ive seen people give some conspiracy theories that a corrupt executive might be pocketing their revenue too since other smaller low budget studios have been coasting along.
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Tryhaptaward
05/21/19 12:25:41 AM
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Sounds like they need to go Epic exclusive
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gunplagirl
05/21/19 1:07:50 AM
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WesternMedia posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Most of their in house stuff has cult followings but it's hard to sell new players on established series, especially ones with numbers in the title, always a decent way of throwing off rpg players.

Yeah. Even though with Disgaea Im assuming the games arent connected like Final Fantasy right?


The main numbered titles are standalones. Besides 2 having a character from 1 as a main storyline character, the rest of the games only have returning characters in the post game or as dlc. There's pleinar but she's a mascot character.

As far as plots go, only the first had a true sequel. The rest are in their own unique Netherworlds.
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DirkDiggles
05/21/19 1:11:23 AM
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Didn't they get the rights to Trails of Cold Steel localization?
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marc55
05/21/19 10:45:28 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
WesternMedia posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Most of their in house stuff has cult followings but it's hard to sell new players on established series, especially ones with numbers in the title, always a decent way of throwing off rpg players.

Yeah. Even though with Disgaea Im assuming the games arent connected like Final Fantasy right?


The main numbered titles are standalones. Besides 2 having a character from 1 as a main storyline character, the rest of the games only have returning characters in the post game or as dlc. There's pleinar but she's a mascot character.

As far as plots go, only the first had a true sequel. The rest are in their own unique Netherworlds.


one of them shows up in disgaea 4 as part of the story but you dont get to recruit her until post game

and in disgaea 5 one of the characters is the final boss of the first game
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pogo_rabid
05/21/19 10:46:13 AM
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Time to add in lootboxes to fix the financial issues
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ocelot51
05/21/19 10:50:46 AM
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They bet on a phone game and lost. The mobile market isn't a treasure trove for everyone.
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Malfunction
05/21/19 10:52:07 AM
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It would be a damn shame if they went belly up

That said, they have a laughable rep for releases. Their disgaea 5 pc port was so badly rolled out.
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TwoDoorPunkCab
05/21/19 10:53:29 AM
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i hope when they say they're not able to play the employees that also includes the managers and higher ups
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Solar_Crimson
05/21/19 11:04:18 AM
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TwoDoorPunkCab posted...
i hope when they say they're not able to play the employees that also includes the managers and higher ups

Of course not.
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kirbymuncher
05/21/19 11:10:56 AM
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can't say I have a ton of sympathy for companies that go out of business trying to do this sort of thing

that said, I don't think they were doing too great even before the failed phone game
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M-Watcher
05/21/19 11:13:22 AM
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Apparently NISA might still be getting out fine. It's NIS itself that might go under. I wonder how that will all work out.
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Senta
05/21/19 11:21:02 AM
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They have made some of my favorite games, and I tend to enjoy almost everything they put out.

A shame they are struggling, but I'm not surprised. Their types of games aren't really visible to the majority of gamers now days; a lot of more classic gameplay types.
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Makeveli_lives
05/21/19 11:21:04 AM
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The Ys 8 switch port is best described as functional so eh...
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