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rabbi_baby
05/23/19 10:56:33 AM
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The company I work for was acquired a few months ago.

We're in the middle of the transition, and now the other company's IT group is starting to touch our servers.

I get a ticket in earlier today about a session host being unreachable. I check it out and see it's been rebooted. Below is my conversation with my boss.

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soulunison2
05/23/19 10:58:14 AM
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Tag for updates

This is uicy
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Letron_James
05/23/19 10:59:18 AM
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Drama alert
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ocelot51
05/23/19 11:02:17 AM
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You looking for another job? Once they integrate your infrastructure they might not need its former IT staff...
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rabbi_baby
05/23/19 11:02:26 AM
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Hairistotle posted...
Can I get the dummy version of what happened?

Basically, dudes are coming in here, rebooting servers without telling anyone, then lying about it when asked.
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rabbi_baby
05/23/19 11:03:50 AM
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ocelot51 posted...
You looking for another job? Once they integrate your infrastructure they might not need its former IT staff...

Yeah, they said end of july is our "guaranteed" employment time. But with the way things are going, it's looking like we may be around here until late september.

We still need to migrate a bunch of physical boxes to AWS, validate our processes, and get all software approved by the other company's netsec department.
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Master_Bass
05/23/19 11:03:51 AM
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Lol, who just bounces production servers in the middle of the day with no window set? Their IT group sucks.
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PatrickMahomes
05/23/19 11:05:57 AM
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your (soon to be former) boss is a legend
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rabbi_baby
05/23/19 11:06:27 AM
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Hairistotle posted...
Rebooting as in turning off and back on? Is that bad? And yeah why lie at all


Server environments can be a bit touchy at times with reboots. Services not working properly, software not functioning as expected, databases not mounting properly, ect..

Servers are like that old car that's a pain in the ass to start, but once it's running it runs fine.
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archedsoul
05/23/19 11:08:32 AM
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What is your job TC?
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rabbi_baby
05/23/19 11:12:23 AM
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archedsoul posted...
What is your job TC?

I'm the sysadmin (if you can even call it that anymore, i've had most of my access stripped over the past few weeks. I can't even remote onto the gateway without filling out a form

Boss is director of IT
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Eat More Beef
05/23/19 11:12:32 AM
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Dude. I got a buddy that works for AWS. He'd be shitting bricks if his team was doing that.

Actually, no. I take that back. He'd probably let them do their thing and then when your boss called them out on it, he'd side with your boss and then ensure that his employees get demoted to the fucking mail room.
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rabbi_baby
05/23/19 11:14:25 AM
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Eat More Beef posted...
Dude. I got a buddy that works for AWS. He'd be shitting bricks if his team was doing that.

Actually, no. I take that back. He'd probably let them do their thing and then when your boss called them out on it, he'd side with your boss and then ensure that his employees get demoted to the fucking mail room.

no no, these are physical boxes on site. We're going to be migrating everything to aws, but that process hasn't started yet since we're still validating the servers/vm's.

We were formerly a biotech company that got purchased by a med tech company, so there are tons of legal conditions we have to meet.
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Eat More Beef
05/23/19 11:17:41 AM
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rabbi_baby posted...
Eat More Beef posted...
Dude. I got a buddy that works for AWS. He'd be shitting bricks if his team was doing that.

Actually, no. I take that back. He'd probably let them do their thing and then when your boss called them out on it, he'd side with your boss and then ensure that his employees get demoted to the fucking mail room.

no no, these are physical boxes on site. We're going to be migrating everything to aws, but that process hasn't started yet since we're still validating the servers/vm's.

We were formerly a biotech company that got purchased by a med tech company, so there are tons of legal conditions we have to meet.


Shit, dude. I gotta wonder then if the account manager is having a bird, or if he even knows about this. From what I've been privy to, AWS normally runs a tight ship.
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clearaflagrantj
05/23/19 11:22:01 AM
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I have no idea what's going on
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MelzezDoor
05/23/19 11:23:00 AM
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clearaflagrantj posted...
I have no idea what's going on
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rabbi_baby
05/23/19 11:23:11 AM
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Eat More Beef posted...
rabbi_baby posted...
Eat More Beef posted...
Dude. I got a buddy that works for AWS. He'd be shitting bricks if his team was doing that.

Actually, no. I take that back. He'd probably let them do their thing and then when your boss called them out on it, he'd side with your boss and then ensure that his employees get demoted to the fucking mail room.

no no, these are physical boxes on site. We're going to be migrating everything to aws, but that process hasn't started yet since we're still validating the servers/vm's.

We were formerly a biotech company that got purchased by a med tech company, so there are tons of legal conditions we have to meet.


Shit, dude. I gotta wonder then if the account manager is having a bird, or if he even knows about this. From what I've been privy to, AWS normally runs a tight ship.


There are a few things that aws will require, but this is mostly internal policies of the other company that we need to conform to so their netsec department can give their blessing attaching the resources to their corp network proper.

As it is now, all the legacy equipment is contained on our original infrastructure, airlocked from the jump box I have set up to bridge the two.
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Eat More Beef
05/23/19 11:28:05 AM
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rabbi_baby posted...
Eat More Beef posted...
rabbi_baby posted...
Eat More Beef posted...
Dude. I got a buddy that works for AWS. He'd be shitting bricks if his team was doing that.

Actually, no. I take that back. He'd probably let them do their thing and then when your boss called them out on it, he'd side with your boss and then ensure that his employees get demoted to the fucking mail room.

no no, these are physical boxes on site. We're going to be migrating everything to aws, but that process hasn't started yet since we're still validating the servers/vm's.

We were formerly a biotech company that got purchased by a med tech company, so there are tons of legal conditions we have to meet.


Shit, dude. I gotta wonder then if the account manager is having a bird, or if he even knows about this. From what I've been privy to, AWS normally runs a tight ship.


There are a few things that aws will require, but this is mostly internal policies of the other company that we need to conform to so their netsec department can give their blessing attaching the resources to their corp network proper.

As it is now, all the legacy equipment is contained on our original infrastructure, airlocked from the jump box I have set up to bridge the two.


Ahhhh. That makes more sense. When my wife's company got bought out, it was a shitshow for her. She spent two days not doing anything cause they had to migrate everything after she asked IT to do it for two months straight. Couldn't do it on the weekend, nope. Had to be a tuesday/wednesday.

Best of luck homie, and if you get some downtime outta this, enjoy it.
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rabbi_baby
05/23/19 11:30:38 AM
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Eat More Beef posted...
rabbi_baby posted...
Eat More Beef posted...
rabbi_baby posted...
Eat More Beef posted...
Dude. I got a buddy that works for AWS. He'd be shitting bricks if his team was doing that.

Actually, no. I take that back. He'd probably let them do their thing and then when your boss called them out on it, he'd side with your boss and then ensure that his employees get demoted to the fucking mail room.

no no, these are physical boxes on site. We're going to be migrating everything to aws, but that process hasn't started yet since we're still validating the servers/vm's.

We were formerly a biotech company that got purchased by a med tech company, so there are tons of legal conditions we have to meet.


Shit, dude. I gotta wonder then if the account manager is having a bird, or if he even knows about this. From what I've been privy to, AWS normally runs a tight ship.


There are a few things that aws will require, but this is mostly internal policies of the other company that we need to conform to so their netsec department can give their blessing attaching the resources to their corp network proper.

As it is now, all the legacy equipment is contained on our original infrastructure, airlocked from the jump box I have set up to bridge the two.


Ahhhh. That makes more sense. When my wife's company got bought out, it was a shitshow for her. She spent two days not doing anything cause they had to migrate everything after she asked IT to do it for two months straight. Couldn't do it on the weekend, nope. Had to be a tuesday/wednesday.

Best of luck homie, and if you get some downtime outta this, enjoy it.

Oh absolutely. I'm actually getting some downtime at work due to all the hands in the cookie jar. Progress is hilariously slow due to nobody wanting to rubber stamp anything.

Hey, if they want to pay me to do like 2-3 hours of work a day and just browse the internet the rest of the day, i'm happy to oblige.
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PatrickMahomes
05/23/19 12:29:50 PM
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MelzezDoor posted...
clearaflagrantj posted...
I have no idea what's going on

A lot of things that IT people actually do while people normally accusing IT of doing nothing are accusing them of doing nothing
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clearaflagrantj
05/23/19 12:38:36 PM
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PatrickMahomes posted...
MelzezDoor posted...
clearaflagrantj posted...
I have no idea what's going on

A lot of things that IT people actually do while people normally accusing IT of doing nothing are accusing them of doing nothing

Okay what are you a sphinx I don't have time to solve your riddles, explain it to me like I'm a dumbass
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rabbi_baby
05/23/19 1:57:09 PM
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..well shit
https://imgur.com/J2BB7Sd
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ToadallyAwesome
05/23/19 2:10:37 PM
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rabbi_baby posted...
..well shit
https://imgur.com/J2BB7Sd


Damn man.

Thats ruff.
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PatrickMahomes
05/23/19 3:04:03 PM
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rabbi_baby posted...
..well shit
https://imgur.com/J2BB7Sd

jesus
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Blade-wolf
05/23/19 3:12:21 PM
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rabbi_baby posted...
..well shit
https://imgur.com/J2BB7Sd

r1IriKN5CsKd2
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PatrickMahomes
05/23/19 3:15:30 PM
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Blade-wolf posted...
rabbi_baby posted...
..well shit
https://imgur.com/J2BB7Sd

r1IriKN5CsKd2

xr7fdB3
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Holy_Pumpkin
05/23/19 3:21:30 PM
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rabbi_baby posted...
..well shit
https://imgur.com/J2BB7Sd


good luck man D: captain has jumped ship lol
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CountDog
05/23/19 3:24:59 PM
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treewojima
05/23/19 3:31:38 PM
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I'd suggest preparing to jump ship as well tbh
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Zack_Attackv1
05/23/19 3:34:40 PM
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rabbi_baby
05/23/19 3:36:59 PM
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CountDog posted...
Why would he lose his job. Because of the idiots moving in.

Basically yeah, but he didn't get fired, he put his two weeks in.

treewojima posted...
I'd suggest preparing to jump ship as well tbh

way ahead of you. I'm just cruising at this point.
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CarrieChan
05/23/19 3:43:33 PM
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Time for you to jump ship too.
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darkphoenix181
05/23/19 3:44:47 PM
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Hairistotle posted...
Rebooting as in turning off and back on? Is that bad? And yeah why lie at all


Imagine if you were buying an item from amazon but someone turned off the server that has the code to handle your shopping cart.
Now imagine it wasn't just you.
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Solar_Crimson
05/23/19 3:46:44 PM
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Master_Bass posted...
Lol, who just bounces production servers in the middle of the day with no window set? Their IT group sucks.

They could be being order by the guys much higher than them to do it.
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Romulox28
05/23/19 3:47:12 PM
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wait, does the OP mean that these guys were resetting prod servers in the middle of a workday to install antivirus lol
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rabbi_baby
05/23/19 3:48:31 PM
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Romulox28 posted...
wait, does the OP mean that these guys were resetting prod servers in the middle of a workday to install antivirus lol

Yep, without removing the old antivirus first...
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Solar_Crimson
05/23/19 3:49:47 PM
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CountDog posted...
Why would he lose his job. Because of the idiots moving in.

He was likely going to be replaced by their people anyway. Especially since TC said that his IT group is guaranteed to be working until July and he's already had most of his SysAdmin privileges taken away.
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Tyranthraxus
05/23/19 3:50:36 PM
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Romulox28 posted...
wait, does the OP mean that these guys were resetting prod servers in the middle of a workday to install antivirus lol

Yes.

If someone even tried to do that shit here without it being an officially scheduled event, their account would be locked out after they got to the second box. They would also probably be fired.

There's only like 6 people in the whole company that can do it, though.
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rabbi_baby
05/23/19 3:57:27 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
CountDog posted...
Why would he lose his job. Because of the idiots moving in.

He was likely going to be replaced by their people anyway. Especially since TC said that his IT group is guaranteed to be working until July and he's already had most of his SysAdmin privileges taken away.

Yeah 100% chance we were going to get the boot anyway. There may be a chance they want to keep me around for on site support, but they're not gonna want to pay me a sysadmin salary for helpdesk role. They'll probably just have all support here be remote.
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Romulox28
05/23/19 3:57:40 PM
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rabbi_baby posted...
Romulox28 posted...
wait, does the OP mean that these guys were resetting prod servers in the middle of a workday to install antivirus lol

Yep, without removing the old antivirus first...

lmao you need to get out of there asap
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rabbi_baby
05/23/19 4:10:08 PM
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Romulox28 posted...
rabbi_baby posted...
Romulox28 posted...
wait, does the OP mean that these guys were resetting prod servers in the middle of a workday to install antivirus lol

Yep, without removing the old antivirus first...

lmao you need to get out of there asap

At this point I almost want to cover my ass by giving up the rest of my access, then watching everything burn.
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EnragedSlith
05/23/19 4:14:03 PM
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Thats extremely weird and irresponsible. You think its to get people to quit?
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Tyranthraxus
05/23/19 4:17:24 PM
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EnragedSlith posted...
Thats extremely weird and irresponsible. You think its to get people to quit?


nah I've seen this kind of shit happen before.

Company X buys company Y. Company Y is out of compliance with Company X's standards. Company X's CISO or CEO who hasn't even looked at what the hell they just bought says "do whatever you have to do to get it into compliance by this Friday." CTO says "There might be an outage." CEO is like "I don't care." and this is the result.
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rabbi_baby
05/24/19 10:38:25 AM
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lol, he just came in 3 hours late, wearing shorts, and smells skunky

this is amaze
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treewojima
05/24/19 10:40:32 AM
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rabbi_baby posted...
lol, he just came in 3 hours late, wearing shorts, and smells skunky

this is amaze


nice, he's pulling a Peter Gibbons
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