Poll of the Day > Who is your favorite Avenger?

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Spider-man
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tie between thor and iron man
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Doctor Strange isn't a Avenger right? I don't think Black Panther is either, neither Spider-man as well since he kinda denied Tony.
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darcandkharg31 posted...

Doctor Strange isn't a Avenger right? I don't think Black Panther is either, I don't think Spider-man as well since he kinda denied Tony.

Pretty much every Marvel character has been in at some point
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Are we talking MCU or comics?

TheOrangeMisfit posted...

Pretty much every Marvel character has been in at some point

If we're playing that game, probably Wolverine.
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I always liked Thor.
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We could probably at least agree that Captain Marvel is everyone's least favorite
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Iron Man, but I feel really bad for him because he had the best first movie and the other two were kinda meh.

Captain America is my least favorite. He's a piece of ****. He had the best movies though.
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SpeedDemon20 posted...

Iron Man, but I feel really bad for him because he had the best first movie and the other two were kinda meh.

Captain America is my least favorite. He's a piece of ****. He had the best movies though.

Hows he a piece of shit?
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My favorite Avenger is Ares.



TheOrangeMisfit posted...

We could probably at least agree that Captain Marvel is everyone's least favorite

A lot of people would probably rank comic Quicksilver lower, and maybe Moondragon. And maybe Starfox now that everyone's gone all #MeToo about him as a character. Also maybe US Agent if we count the West Coast team, because no one likes US Agent.

In the movies, Carol would definitely be the worst, but arguable she isn't even really an Avenger. While she helps the team a couple times, she never really seems like she joins.


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I like the hulk

Because he is mad and just hits everything
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mooreandrew58 posted...

Hows he a piece of shit?

He's naive, idealistic, and a hypocrite. In Civil War, when he is trying to console Scarlet Witch, he says "This job, we try to save as many people as we can. Sometimes that doesn't mean everybody. But if we can't find a way to live with that, then next time, maybe nobody gets saved." And then Infinity War happens. And then Endgame happens. He already saved as many people as he could (zero), and he totally ignored his own advice of learning to live with it.
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SpeedDemon20 posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

Hows he a piece of shit?

He's naive, idealistic, and a hypocrite. In Civil War, when he is trying to console Scarlet Witch, he says "This job, we try to save as many people as we can. Sometimes that doesn't mean everybody. But if we can't find a way to live with that, then next time, maybe nobody gets saved." And then Infinity War happens. And then Endgame happens. He already saved as many people as he could (zero), and he totally ignored his own advice of learning to live with it.

You never know how you are
going react until it actually happens he learned to live with the thought of not saving Bucky though so when he gave the advice he wasnt being hypocritical.

If you mean naive as in too quick to trust someone then sure. Id take his side anyway over mr I think im better than everybody tony stark though.

Agree to disagree though. Ive just seen people think he was a pos just for being a patriotic person though and was hoping that wasnt the case.
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mooreandrew58 posted...

You never know how you are
going react until it actually happens he learned to live with the thought of not saving Bucky though so when he gave the advice he wasnt being hypocritical.

The Bucky thing weirds me out because you don't really see much of their friendship in the first movie and when Bucky falls off the train and supposedly dies, you don't really get much of a reaction to it from Steve. And then every movie afterwards comes and he has such a strong bond with Bucky, and I never feel the justification.

mooreandrew58 posted...

If you mean naive as in too quick to trust someone then sure. Id take his side anyway over mr I think im better than everybody tony stark though.

With Tony, he starts out as a true asshole who thinks he has everything figured out. Make a few new weapons every year, sell to the government for money, do whatever you want, etc. Iron Man 1 happens, and he totally changes and you can understand why. Like you said though, he retains the arrogance even after his change. That stays true to his character. The arrogance remains, but it's directed in his new path (i.e.: instead of being an arrogant rich asshole who sells weapons, he's an arrogant rich asshole trying to keep the world safe).

The part that makes me think Captain America is naive is that he is very focused on how things currently are. Like he never seems to think in terms of the long game (but that might be due to his skillset really). I'm sure you know this point because everyone brings it up: In Age of Ultron when Tony asks how Steve plans to deal with the "endgame," he replies "Together." That's not a plan! It's incredibly vague. If he had brought up how the suits were similar to Nick Fury's helicarriers all around the world and offered another alternative, I'd be much happier with him (also, I really hate how depowered Captain America is in Avengers and Age of Ultron. Joss Whedon does not know what to do with Captain America. Watch either of those and then watch Winter Soldier. There's a part in Winter Soldier where he kicks a soldier. The OOMPH from that was so satisfying to see.).

mooreandrew58 posted...

Agree to disagree though. Ive just seen people think he was a pos just for being a patriotic person though and was hoping that wasnt the case.

Nah, I'm okay with that. It's a very basic and understandable emotion to have. I remember seeing him in the Spider-Man animated series when I was younger. He was very boring. They really gave him a lot of character and nuance in the movies. Honestly, I'd rather have a character I dislike than a boring and flat character.

In fact, characters who you dislike are very important to storytelling, but that's another topic altogether.
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SpeedDemon20 posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

You never know how you are
going react until it actually happens he learned to live with the thought of not saving Bucky though so when he gave the advice he wasnt being hypocritical.

The Bucky thing weirds me out because you don't really see much of their friendship in the first movie and when Bucky falls off the train and supposedly dies, you don't really get much of a reaction to it from Steve. And then every movie afterwards comes and he has such a strong bond with Bucky, and I never feel the justification.

mooreandrew58 posted...

If you mean naive as in too quick to trust someone then sure. Id take his side anyway over mr I think im better than everybody tony stark though.

With Tony, he starts out as a true asshole who thinks he has everything figured out. Make a few new weapons every year, sell to the government for money, do whatever you want, etc. Iron Man 1 happens, and he totally changes and you can understand why.

The part that makes me think Captain America is naive is that he is very focused on how things currently are. Like he never seems to think in terms of the long game (but that might be due to his skillset really). I'm sure you know this point because everyone brings it up: In Age of Ultron when Tony asks how Steve plans to deal with the "endgame," he replies "Together." That's not a plan! It's incredibly vague. If he had brought up how the suits were similar to Nick Fury's helicarriers all around the world and offered another alternative, I'd be much happier with him (also, I really hate how depowered Captain America is in Avengers and Age of Ultron. Joss Whedon does not know what to do with Captain America. Watch either of those and then watch Winter Soldier. There's a part in Winter Soldier where he kicks a soldier. The OOMPH from that was so satisfying to see.).

mooreandrew58 posted...

Agree to disagree though. Ive just seen people think he was a pos just for being a patriotic person though and was hoping that wasnt the case.

Nah, I'm okay with that. It's a very basic and understandable emotion to have. I remember seeing him in the Spider-Man animated series when I was younger. He was very boring. They really gave him a lot of character and nuance in the movies. Honestly, I'd rather have a character I dislike than a boring and flat character.

In fact, characters who you dislike are very important to storytelling, but that's another topic altogether.

Well to be fair cap is a soldier hes more used to following orders than hatching plans other than maybe combat strategy.

I actually just re watched winter soldier a few hours ago lol. Civil war is probably my favorite movies with his name in the title though.

Also despite what i said I do love Tony as a character just if him and steve where real people id chose Steve over him anyday
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mooreandrew58 posted...

Well to be fair cap is a soldier hes more used to following orders than hatching plans other than maybe combat strategy.

Yeah, that's true. That's fair.

I actually just re watched winter soldier a few hours ago lol. Civil war is probably my favorite movies with his name in the title though.

Did you see that kick? What a satisfying kick.

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At around 0:40, look at that kick! So good. I wonder if he felt bad about it.

Also despite what i said I do love Tony as a character just if him and steve where real people id chose Steve over him anyday

Yeah, you are right. Clearly, I like Steve too. At heart, he is a good guy, though I disagree with him. If you look at the world right now, there's a lot of industries where the government is being forced to step in because those industries cannot regulate themselves. But let's not get into that.
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SpeedDemon20 posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

Well to be fair cap is a soldier hes more used to following orders than hatching plans other than maybe combat strategy.

Yeah, that's true. That's fair.

I actually just re watched winter soldier a few hours ago lol. Civil war is probably my favorite movies with his name in the title though.

Did you see that kick? What a satisfying kick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svi4S_rHChw" data-time="

At around 0:40, look at that kick! So good. I wonder if he felt bad about it.

Also despite what i said I do love Tony as a character just if him and steve where real people id chose Steve over him anyday

Yeah, you are right. Clearly, I like Steve too. At heart, he is a good guy, though I disagree with him. If you look at the world right now, there's a lot of industries where the government is being forced to step in because those industries cannot regulate themselves. But let's not get into that.

Yeah thats a brutal kick im sure he was yanked by a wire in reality though. Unless you mean cap feeling bad about it from a story perspective. Even then I doubt it a lot of marvel chararcters dont seem them off put by bad guys dying. And cap makes sense hes seen literal war. I like how the video game explains him not using a gun in ww2. Most soldiers are ill prepared for hand to hand combat. Sure they have some training but often little real life use of it in the battlefield.

I mostly forget age of ultron though and pretty much only remember maybe one scene with cap in it.

When evans is officially done with this role I hope they keep cap around pass the mantle to Bucky or falcon like in the comics.

On the game though shame they likely will never make another. With a bigger budget it could have rivaled gamesmkham games
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Agent coulson

Huh? Derivative cash grabs, all of them. If they weren't in DC comics in the 50's, they aren't superheroes.
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The Strongest Avenger.
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mooreandrew58 posted...

SpeedDemon20 posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

Well to be fair cap is a soldier hes more used to following orders than hatching plans other than maybe combat strategy.

Yeah, that's true. That's fair.

I actually just re watched winter soldier a few hours ago lol. Civil war is probably my favorite movies with his name in the title though.

Did you see that kick? What a satisfying kick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svi4S_rHChw" data-time="

At around 0:40, look at that kick! So good. I wonder if he felt bad about it.

Also despite what i said I do love Tony as a character just if him and steve where real people id chose Steve over him anyday

Yeah, you are right. Clearly, I like Steve too. At heart, he is a good guy, though I disagree with him. If you look at the world right now, there's a lot of industries where the government is being forced to step in because those industries cannot regulate themselves. But let's not get into that.

Yeah thats a brutal kick im sure he was yanked by a wire in reality though. Unless you mean cap feeling bad about it from a story perspective. Even then I doubt it a lot of marvel chararcters dont seem them off put by bad guys dying. And cap makes sense hes seen literal war. I like how the video game explains him not using a gun in ww2. Most soldiers are ill prepared for hand to hand combat. Sure they have some training but often little real life use of it in the battlefield.

I mostly forget age of ultron though and pretty much only remember maybe one scene with cap in it.

When evans is officially done with this role I hope they keep cap around pass the mantle to Bucky or falcon like in the comics.

On the game though shame they likely will never make another. With a bigger budget it could have rivaled gamesmkham games

*sigh* fucking typos I hate touchscreen sometimes. *rivaled arkham games
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Going with Doctor Strange. I just enjoy the mind games side of a hero/villain the most.
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Sabretooth
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America's ass.
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dancer62 posted...

Huh? Derivative cash grabs, all of them. If they weren't in DC comics in the 50's, they aren't superheroes.

So there are literally no superheroes, then?

DC comics literally only started legally referring to themselves as DC in the 1970s. Characters like Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman technically debuted in National Allied Publications books.


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Hank Pym
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