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Frolex
05/26/19 8:00:23 PM
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seqntenialbeast posted...

the link you posted cites "a newspaper"

it doesn't even say which one


No, it cites a report by the German government. You're probably better off going back to getting purged for calling people cucks because your genuine attempts to engage on the issues are pretty pathetic.
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ASithLord7
05/26/19 8:01:15 PM
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Imagine thinking an online survey of 500 people constitutes statistical information. It's not even about facts, the study itself talks about the respondent's perceptions rather than actual events.
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Broseph_Stalin
05/26/19 8:01:18 PM
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seqntenialbeast posted...
The graph is based on the Bielefield report


An online survey, you mean. Which it doesn't bother to mention.

seqntenialbeast posted...
the link you posted cites "a newspaper"

it doesn't even say which one


No, it cites a police report created after an inquiry from the vice president of the Bundestag. And the Newspaper reporting was named.

You're also really out of your league here buddy.
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seqntenialbeast
05/26/19 8:02:30 PM
#54:


Oh right, Tagesspiegel

I can't find their report or data anywhere though.
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ASithLord7
05/26/19 8:02:32 PM
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Lesen Sie Deutsch, seqn? Ich glaube nicht.
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seqntenialbeast
05/26/19 8:08:35 PM
#56:


ASithLord7 posted...
Lesen Sie Deutsch, seqn? Ich glaube nicht.


I can translate it if necessary. I looked everywhere for that Tagesspiegel report so I could see the individual attacks. Can't find it.

Also there is no official German hate crime data on their official website like the United States has
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ASithLord7
05/26/19 8:11:27 PM
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Also nein.
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hockeybub89
05/26/19 8:27:24 PM
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PlsGodDontBanMe posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
PlsGodDontBanMe posted...
sevihaimerej posted...
Um...wouldn't Muslim extremists count as far right theocrats anyway? Splitting hairs here it seems


Id say fundamentally, alt-right and muslims are way different ideology wise.

Unless you think Trump and nationalist supporters suddenly like Muslims or immigrants, which they do not and will never not.

Far-right =/= alt-right

Muslim extremists would actually be farther right on the X-axis than Nazis.


You cant have it both ways, either theyre all extremely similiar to the point that splitting them up three different ways is wrong, or theyre different to the point where its correct to seperate them.

In this instance, we are talking about the trump supporters and the alt right against the far left, which the only data we have shows that the German official is completely talking out of his ass.

Muslim incidents occuring against jewish people is a whole nother ball game that i dont think far left people would like to talk about, considering germanys stance on immigration and such.

So id like to see the data he has, if its out there. If hes telling the truth, then its a problem that needs solving.

The graph doesn't say "alt-right and Trump supporters". It says "far-right extremists". Muslim extremists are far-right and Christian extremists are similar, so if "far right" doesn't mean "far right", then it should say "alt-right/Nazis"

It's like if you had a graph and broke it up as mammals-birds-elephants-tigers. How does that make any sense? Why are two mammals not mammals?
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seqntenialbeast
05/26/19 8:32:54 PM
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The Bielefeld study asks Jews (not anonymously) in Germany who attacked them/ verbally assaulted them. The Jews themselves describe the attackers/perps as Muslim.

Whether not you want to describe Muslims as far right is something else entirely.

I guess Muslims are arguably "far right"
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seqntenialbeast
05/26/19 8:34:08 PM
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That's why I need to see the actual study where Tagesspiegel claims the police said they are "far right"

Was the perp Muslim or not?
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Delirious_Beard
05/26/19 8:36:22 PM
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i wonder if seqntenialbeast hates brown people as much as he hates seattle
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Frolex
05/26/19 9:01:14 PM
#62:


seqntenialbeast posted...
That's why I need to see the actual study where Tagesspiegel claims the police said they are "far right"

Was the perp Muslim or not?


The section he posted directly answers this question. You just didn't actually read it. Like i said, go back to making z-tier troll threads, you're not equipped for actual discussion.
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seqntenialbeast
05/26/19 9:03:52 PM
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Delirious_Beard posted...
i wonder if seqntenialbeast hates brown people as much as he hates seattle


There are white Muslims, Asians Muslims etc. I don't even hate Muslims though.
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seqntenialbeast
05/26/19 9:04:40 PM
#64:


Frolex posted...

The section he posted directly answers this question. You just didn't actually read it. Like i said, go back to making z-tier troll threads, you're not equipped for actual discussion.


No, it literally doesn't. I need the incidents, not their uncited bogus
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seqntenialbeast
05/26/19 9:06:21 PM
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I'd rather live in the Middle East than Seattle tbh
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SoraOwnsOctopus
05/26/19 9:06:49 PM
#66:


Skye Reynolds posted...
This is a headline from 80 years ago, right?

<_<

lol
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AmericaTheBrave
05/26/19 9:15:20 PM
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SoraOwnsOctopus posted...
Skye Reynolds posted...
This is a headline from 80 years ago, right?

<_<

lol


This isn't funny.
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glitteringfairy
05/26/19 9:17:54 PM
#68:


ASithLord7 posted...
Lesen Sie Deutsch, seqn? Ich glaube nicht.

My loins get moist whenever you speak German , rebel
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Frolex
05/26/19 9:19:36 PM
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seqntenialbeast posted...

No, it literally doesn't. I need the incidents, not their uncited bogus


Broseph_Stalin posted...

Another 25 of the cases were "religiously motivated," including those involving either foreign-born or German Muslims with extremist beliefs, according to the Tagesspiegel report.


keep trying bud
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Tyranthraxus
05/26/19 9:31:36 PM
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Isn't Tagesspiegel just German Breitbart?
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The Great Muta 22
05/26/19 9:39:44 PM
#71:


seqntenialbeast posted...
That's why I need to see the actual study where Tagesspiegel claims the police said they are "far right"

Was the perp Muslim or not?


Muslim Extremism IS a far right ideology. Christian fundamentalism is literally cousins with Islamic fundamentalism, both which inspire extremism and both of which are not anything near "left" leaning on these scales.
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ASithLord7
05/26/19 10:20:01 PM
#72:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Isn't Tagesspiegel just German Breitbart?

No
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boxington
05/28/19 1:11:06 AM
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https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/27/europe/bild-kippah-anti-semitism-scli-intl-grm/index.html

German newspaper Bild published a cut-out kippah skullcap on its front page Monday, urging readers to show their solidarity with the country's Jewish community in the face of rising anti-Semitism.

The move comes after a leading government official warned Jews in Germany not to wear the traditional skullcaps in public because of an increase in anti-Semitic attacks across the country.

Felix Klein, the government's anti-Semitism commissioner, told the Funke media group Saturday: "I cannot advise Jews to wear the kippah everywhere all the time in Germany."

In response, Germany's most popular daily newspaper asked readers to wear the cut-out kippah as a mark of solidarity with the Jewish community, and even posted a video on its website showing how to make it.

"Wear it, so that your friends and neighbors can see it. Explain to your children what the kippah is," wrote editor-in-chief Julian Reichelt.

"Post a photograph with the kippah on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter. Go out onto the streets with it."

Reichelt rejected Klein's call for Jews to limit their use of the kippah.

"To that, there is only one answer: No, that must not be the case!" he wrote. "If it is so, and if it stays that way, then we have failed in the face of our history."

He called on readers to support the Jewish community.

"If even one person in our country cannot wear the kippah without putting themselves in danger, then the only answer must be that we all wear the kippah," wrote Reichelt. "The kippah belongs to Germany!"

There is mounting concern over the rise of anti-Semitism in Germany, and government figures point to an increase in anti-Semitic attacks.

Data released by the interior ministry reveals that anti-Semitic hate crimes rose by nearly 20% from 2017-18, while the number of physical attacks against Jews increased from 37 in 2017 to 69 last year.

Horst Seehofer, the interior minister, has said that around 90% of the reported incidents were perpetrated by supporters of far-right groups.

"This is a development that we have to confront, especially in this country," Seehofer told a press conference in May. "This is a job for the police as well as the whole society."

Chancellor Angela Merkel has also denounced anti-Semitic crime in Germany and called for a "zero-tolerance" approach to tackling it.

"People growing up today must know what people were capable of in the past, and we must work proactively to ensure that it is never repeated," she said in January.

This story has been updated to reflect the correct number of physical attacks against Jews in Germany in 2018. It was 69.

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ASithLord7
05/28/19 1:40:35 AM
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I mean, they make a good point there, but calling Bild a newspaper seems overly generous.
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boxington
05/28/19 1:48:17 AM
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tbh, I'm not familiar with it.

I just saw the article on my phone's recommended stories thing, and remembered this article.
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masterbarf
05/28/19 1:51:13 AM
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Does Germany have a "stand your ground" law? Packing while wearing a yarmulke seems like a good way lower our carbon footprint.
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Sativa_Rose
05/28/19 2:05:33 AM
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This will be Merkel's legacy.
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masterbarf
05/28/19 2:06:16 AM
#78:


Doom_Art posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
If only someone anywhere had ever said anything about Muslim terrorism in the past 20 years.

Even outside of that fact, Muslim terror groups are often on the far right.

Iunno what else you'd call a group of culturally conservative religious fundamentalists

Intolerant white nationalists are too stupid to realize they're exactly the same as intolerant non-whites.

The problem isn't white; it isn't Muslim; it isn't diversity; it's intolerance.
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ASithLord7
05/28/19 2:06:18 AM
#79:


Sativa_Rose posted...
This will be Merkel's legacy.

Oh boy another one who didn't read the topic and just wants to shitpost as usual. Par for the fucking course with Sativa though.
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Sativa_Rose
05/28/19 2:10:24 AM
#80:


ASithLord7 posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
This will be Merkel's legacy.

Oh boy another one who didn't read the topic and just wants to shitpost as usual. Par for the fucking course with Sativa though.


Excuse me?

seqntenialbeast posted...
A 2017 study on Jewish perspectives on antisemitism in Germany by Bielefeld University found that individuals and groups belonging to the extreme right and extreme left were equally represented as perpetrators of antisemitic harassment and assault, while a large part of the attacks were committed by Muslim assailants. The study also found that 70% of the participants feared a rise in antisemitism due to immigration citing the antisemitic views of the refugees.[123]

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ASithLord7
05/28/19 2:15:43 AM
#81:


ASithLord7 posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
This will be Merkel's legacy.

Oh boy another one who didn't read the topic and just wants to shitpost as usual. Par for the fucking course with Sativa though.

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masterbarf
05/28/19 2:19:32 AM
#82:


So many people on this board couldn't get a passing grade at my literal elementary school. We actually had to use credible sources. We didn't have to know how to properly cite them, but we had to bring copies.

Okay you might get a D or C-. Actually 77 was the lowest score that got a C-. You might, might get a D-
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Broseph_Stalin
05/28/19 3:20:46 AM
#83:


ASithLord7 posted...
Oh boy another one who didn't read the topic

Sativa_Rose posted...
Excuse me?

seqntenialbeast posted...
A 2017 study on Jewish perspectives on antisemitism in Germany by Bielefeld University found that individuals and groups belonging to the extreme right and extreme left were equally represented as perpetrators of antisemitic harassment and assault, while a large part of the attacks were committed by Muslim assailants. The study also found that 70% of the participants feared a rise in antisemitism due to immigration citing the antisemitic views of the refugees.[123]


holy shit lmfao

no really dude, read the topic
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ASithLord7
05/28/19 9:29:36 AM
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And he was never seen again
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JBaLLEN66
05/28/19 9:34:22 AM
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God I Hope Europe ends this alt right sickness soon.
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Shuto-uke
05/28/19 9:45:31 AM
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I guess Germany is being made "Great again" :(
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