Current Events > Did you like John Wick 3? *spoilers for JW 1, 2 and 3*

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I could comment a lot on the obvious feminist/woke stuff (woke halle berry with her army of dogs trained to castrate "male scum" and they do it for like, 5 minutes, her talking to Wick like a dog, etc) but I don't want to focus on that.

I want to talk about the glaring inconsistencies in the movie:

- "It's all about a dog" - No it's not. John Wick 1 was about a dog. John Wick 2 was about Santino being an asshole and forcing John to come back AND putting a contract on him. John Wick was about the consequences for killing Santino.

- John Killed Santino's sister, who was High Table and nobody gave a fuck. But Santino gets killed and the high table loses its shit?!

- Winston went from mighty man of empire to merely a shop keeper for a hotel?

- Who are these arab dudes that take a finger from John? Why do they live like that?

Loved it. Best action in the series but I think 2 had the best story.

I could comment a lot on the obvious feminist/woke stuff (woke halle berry with her army of dogs trained to castrate "male scum" and they do it for like, 5 minutes, her talking to Wick like a dog, etc)

I should've probably read the OP first, jfc.
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It started out great with the fight in the library and the chase around the city. However, the talking scenes were pretty boring, and the fight with Halle Berry and the dogs was way too long and repetitive. I liked the fight at the hotel.

Overall, not as good as John Wick 2, but still good.
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Kitt posted...

Loved it. Best action in the series but I think 2 had the best story.

I loved it too, despite its flaws.

You really think the action in 3 tops 2, though?

Manocheese posted...

It started out great with the fight in the library and the chase around the city. However, the talking scenes were pretty boring, and the fight with Halle Berry and the dogs was way too long and repetitive. I liked the fight at the hotel.

Overall, not as good as John Wick 2, but still good.

agreed

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loved it, i love the john wick series. my favorite is 1 but I do like 3 more than 2, keanu seems dopey in 2, like he somehow doesn't know the rules of this world he's inhabited for years? it's got great actions, all 3 movies do, but the 2nd one is the weaked of the 3, still a great movie and better than most other movies, but 3 is a better sequel.

Please, lets not get into that obvious feminist shit. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

Movie was highly entertaining though.
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korol_i_shut posted...

loved it, i love the john wick series. my favorite is 1 but I do like 3 more than 2, keanu seems dopey in 2, like he somehow doesn't know the rules of this world he's inhabited for years? it's got great actions, all 3 movies do, but the 2nd one is the weaked of the 3, still a great movie and better than most other movies, but 3 is a better sequel.

I miss the bartender from # 1, I had a crush on her for a while and she didn't even get that much screen time

Coastal_elite posted...

korol_i_shut posted...

loved it, i love the john wick series. my favorite is 1 but I do like 3 more than 2, keanu seems dopey in 2, like he somehow doesn't know the rules of this world he's inhabited for years? it's got great actions, all 3 movies do, but the 2nd one is the weaked of the 3, still a great movie and better than most other movies, but 3 is a better sequel.

I miss the bartender from # 1, I had a crush on her for a while and she didn't even get that much screen time

she should have been ruby rose's character.

korol_i_shut posted...

Coastal_elite posted...

korol_i_shut posted...

loved it, i love the john wick series. my favorite is 1 but I do like 3 more than 2, keanu seems dopey in 2, like he somehow doesn't know the rules of this world he's inhabited for years? it's got great actions, all 3 movies do, but the 2nd one is the weaked of the 3, still a great movie and better than most other movies, but 3 is a better sequel.

I miss the bartender from # 1, I had a crush on her for a while and she didn't even get that much screen time

she should have been ruby rose's character.

speaking of.. the adjudicator is a cool character, but the actress they chose for the role is terrible, not at all intimidating, I would have just shot her TBH.

I thought it was p. good
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korol_i_shut posted...

Coastal_elite posted...

korol_i_shut posted...

loved it, i love the john wick series. my favorite is 1 but I do like 3 more than 2, keanu seems dopey in 2, like he somehow doesn't know the rules of this world he's inhabited for years? it's got great actions, all 3 movies do, but the 2nd one is the weaked of the 3, still a great movie and better than most other movies, but 3 is a better sequel.

I miss the bartender from # 1, I had a crush on her for a while and she didn't even get that much screen time

she should have been ruby rose's character.

This is a terrific idea.

But the bartender was... too sweet? I don't know, the way she talked with John just made me go awwwwwwww.

So much wasted potential, she needs to come back

korol_i_shut posted...

speaking of.. the adjudicator is a cool character, but the actress they chose for the role is terrible, not at all intimidating, I would have just shot her TBH.

she reeks of " I want to speak to the manager"

lol @ watching john wick for the story. almost as bad as watching the pornos with storylines.
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Coastal_elite posted...

korol_i_shut posted...

speaking of.. the adjudicator is a cool character, but the actress they chose for the role is terrible, not at all intimidating, I would have just shot her TBH.

she reeks of " I want to speak to the manager"

does she? i mean does she have any personality at all? they could have had any woman play the part, I mean i'm not mad at the casting of halle berry, I thought she was good in the movie, but an untouchable high table character like the adjudicator should be someone imposing, not annoying due to lack of personality.

- "It's all about a dog" - No it's not. John Wick 1 was about a dog. John Wick 2 was about Santino being an asshole and forcing John to come back AND putting a contract on him. John Wick was about the consequences for killing Santino.

- John Killed Santino's sister, who was High Table and nobody gave a fuck. But Santino gets killed and the high table loses its shit?!

the events of John Wick 2 only because of what happened in John Wick.

Santino was willing to respect John's retirement until John went on his path of revenge.

and it wasn't because Santino was High Table that people are after him, but because John killed Santino on Continental ground.

edit: and there are Continental hotels across the world, and idk if it was ever stated that Winston managed more than one.

and the guy who took John's finger seems to be the head of the High Table, or something like that
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Am I the only person that thinks Carrie Anne Moss wouldve been a better Adjudicator?
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Coastal_elite posted...

- John Killed Santino's sister, who was High Table and nobody gave a fuck. But Santino gets killed and the high table loses its shit?

I loved the movie but ya this stuck out to me while i was watching.
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I didn't like this one as much as 1 or 2. Although they did a lot more hand-to-hand stuff and tried to mix it up with knife fighting and such, some of the set pieces felt gimmicky and forced (like the horses). The dogs were a cool addition but that scene went on too long.

I know 3-gun style speed shooting is the whole basis for the gun choreography, but it also just felt less interesting in this one. Look, here's a tricked out Taran Tactical 2011! And over here is a tricked out Taran Tactical Benelli M2! And what's this? A tricked out Taran Tactical Sig MPX! That just felt stale to me, it worked in the last movie but not here.

I like the series but they should have wrapped it up. I think it's presumptious to leave it on another cliffhanger. When John was in front the Elder, I thought he was going to just kill him and take down the whole organization. That would have been more interesting to me from the greatest assassin in the world.
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I think its was much better than the first 2 movies. The worldbuilding was better and the action was more interesting

jjp05c posted...

Coastal_elite posted...

- John Killed Santino's sister, who was High Table and nobody gave a fuck. But Santino gets killed and the high table loses its shit?

I loved the movie but ya this stuck out to me while i was watching.

He killed him in the continental. Thats one of the few rules theyre not allowed to break. This isnt an inconsistency. You guys just arent paying attention. Its literally the driving force of this entire movie lol
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Buzz Killjoy posted...

I didn't like this one as much as 1 or 2. Although they did a lot more hand-to-hand stuff and tried to mix it up with knife fighting and such, some of the set pieces felt gimmicky and forced (like the horses). The dogs were a cool addition but that scene went on too long.

I know 3-gun style speed shooting is the whole basis for the gun choreography, but it also just felt less interesting in this one. Look, here's a tricked out Taran Tactical 2011! And over here is a tricked out Taran Tactical Benelli M2! And what's this? A tricked out Taran Tactical Sig MPX! That just felt stale to me, it worked in the last movie but not here.

I like the series but they should have wrapped it up. I think it's presumptious to leave it on another cliffhanger. When John was in front the Elder, I thought he was going to just kill him and take down the whole organization. That would have been more interesting to me from the greatest assassin in the world.

Yes I kept thinking "if Winston and Wick shoot the adjudicator right on the spot this could be over"

I doubt that killing an Adjudicator would be any better than shooting someone in a Continental.
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Feline_Heart posted...

The worldbuilding was better and the action was more interesting

This is actually one of the things that turned me off.

John Wick 1 and 2 had a very specific art direction/ambiance for the world. Assassins are for some reason very well dressed and businesslike (except some exceptions like the hobos or the guys that use disguise, such as the sushi guys) and they hang out in this super luxurious hotel and in super swanky bars, they have "food menus so extensive a man can stay here and not eat the same thing twice", etc. Winston himself looks like he is out of a Godfather movie sequel set in our times.

Suddenly in JW3, assassins can live Casablanca style and hang out in filthy tents in the middle of the desert.

Feline_Heart posted...

He killed him in the continental. Thats one of the few rules theyre not allowed to break. This isnt an inconsistency. You guys just arent paying attention. Its literally the driving force of this entire movie lol

Nope. It is a factor, for sure. But Kronika... eeeerr, I mean, the annoyed woman who wants to speak to the manager... errrrr I mean the adjudicator goes around maiming people because they helped John to kill a member of the high table (e.g. the pigeon king).

It was very clear, the adjudicator went to the pigeon king because he gave john a gun with 7 bullets to kill Santino. He wasn't excomunicado at that point.

meralonne posted...

I doubt that killing an Adjudicator would be any better than shooting someone in a Continental.

haha true

Coastal_elite posted...

I could comment a lot on the obvious feminist/woke stuff (woke halle berry with her army of dogs trained to castrate "male scum" and they do it for like, 5 minutes, her talking to Wick like a dog, etc) but I don't want to focus on that.

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PleaseClap posted...

Coastal_elite posted...

I could comment a lot on the obvious feminist/woke stuff (woke halle berry with her army of dogs trained to castrate "male scum" and they do it for like, 5 minutes, her talking to Wick like a dog, etc) but I don't want to focus on that.

that's the one thing you took from my entire post?

Might as well tell me "check your privilege, shitlord" lol

The dog scene really drug the movie down to the point where I just wanted it to be over. The moment for me that killed any momentum was in Grand Central Station when John blatantly kills a man in public & broad daylight and no one reacts.
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Coastal_elite posted...

I could comment a lot on the obvious feminist/woke stuff (woke halle berry with her army of dogs trained to castrate "male scum" and they do it for like, 5 minutes, her talking to Wick like a dog, etc) but I don't want to focus on that.

Whats wrong with you? Lmao

It was very clear, the adjudicator went to the pigeon king because he gave john a gun with 7 bullets to kill Santino. He wasn't excomunicado at that point.

I think it's more of a case of anyone aiding John, directly or indirectly, in breaking the rules was dealt with as an example, because there's nothing about Santino being High Table being used in the case against him
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boxington posted...

It was very clear, the adjudicator went to the pigeon king because he gave john a gun with 7 bullets to kill Santino. He wasn't excomunicado at that point.

I think it's more of a case of anyone aiding John, directly or indirectly, in breaking the rules was dealt with as an example, because there's nothing about Santino being High Table being used in the case against him

Also, Winston says in the second movie that once the marker is complete, it's fine for John to kill Santino.
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So does anyone else feels that # 3 feels a little bit disjointed from # 1 and # 2? Sort of like matrix 2 and 3 were from matrix 1

Manocheese posted...

boxington posted...

It was very clear, the adjudicator went to the pigeon king because he gave john a gun with 7 bullets to kill Santino. He wasn't excomunicado at that point.

I think it's more of a case of anyone aiding John, directly or indirectly, in breaking the rules was dealt with as an example, because there's nothing about Santino being High Table being used in the case against him

Also, Winston says in the second movie that once the marker is complete, it's fine for John to kill Santino.

it's been a while, but I think that I remember him saying something like that.

Coastal_elite posted...

So does anyone else feels that # 3 feels a little bit disjointed from # 1 and # 2? Sort of like matrix 2 and 3 were from matrix 1

personality, no.
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I liked it but the high table caring about the rules so much feels weird
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Coastal_elite posted...

- "It's all about a dog" - No it's not. John Wick 1 was about a dog. John Wick 2 was about Santino being an asshole and forcing John to come back AND putting a contract on him. John Wick was about the consequences for killing Santino.

Everything triggered from the dog murder. 1 was about revenge, 2 was about consequences and 3 was about loyalty.

Coastal_elite posted...

John Killed Santino's sister, who was High Table and nobody gave a fuck. But Santino gets killed and the high table loses its shit?!

The Adjudicator laid it out pretty clear, Santino sought refuge at the Continental and John broke the rules. Then Winston helped him.

Coastal_elite posted...

Winston went from mighty man of empire to merely a shop keeper for a hotel?

I guess you missed the conversation where he told the Adjudicator he basically is NYC and war wouldn't be pretty.

Coastal_elite posted...

Who are these arab dudes that take a finger from John? Why do they live like that?

Seems reasonable the head honcho lives in the middle of the desert like a king of old. That was a luxurious as fuck tent and he probably has all kinds of hot sex.
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Also, John didn't just kill Santino's sister for nothing. John asked Santino for help with Viggo's "impossible task", for which the reward was John retiring w/ Helen. In return, John committed himself to a marker with Santino, which Santino cashed in on in JW:2.

So even though John killed a member of the High Table, he was still within the parameters of the assassin world because he was doing so under a sacred marker. If he didn't go through with it, he would be in violation and still would be excommunicado.
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voldothegr8 posted...

The Adjudicator laid it out pretty clear, Santino sought refuge at the Continental and John broke the rules. Then Winston helped him.

I guess you missed the conversation where the adjudicator went after the pigeon king too for helping him go after Santino BEFORE it was in the cards that he'd go to the continental

meralonne posted...

I doubt that killing an Adjudicator would be any better than shooting someone in a Continental.

She just represents the High Table. If they kill her they'd probably just send another one to represent them.

As for the movie, I think 2 had a better balance of action and story. 3 got a little ridiculous towards the end when it essentially became The Raid 3 lol

The plot became dumb quickly too. John meeting the Elder was pointless if he was gonna side with Winston in the end anyway. Zero and his goons were still trying to kill him when he came back to NYC so he didn't even get any sort of protection until he reached the Continental either.
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John Wick 3 was entertaining as hell, so I still liked it overall. But I think it's the weakest of the films.
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Coastal_elite posted...

John Killed Santino's sister

Fake news.

korol_i_shut posted...

korol_i_shut posted...

Coastal_elite posted...

korol_i_shut posted...

loved it, i love the john wick series. my favorite is 1 but I do like 3 more than 2, keanu seems dopey in 2, like he somehow doesn't know the rules of this world he's inhabited for years? it's got great actions, all 3 movies do, but the 2nd one is the weaked of the 3, still a great movie and better than most other movies, but 3 is a better sequel.

I miss the bartender from # 1, I had a crush on her for a while and she didn't even get that much screen time

she should have been ruby rose's character.

speaking of.. the adjudicator is a cool character, but the actress they chose for the role is terrible, not at all intimidating, I would have just shot her TBH.

lol I told my wife I was expecting her to get shot in the face mid sentence in every scene she was in
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EnterTheTekken posted...

The dog scene really drug the movie down to the point where I just wanted it to be over. The moment for me that killed any momentum was in Grand Central Station when John blatantly kills a man in public & broad daylight and no one reacts.

Yes that scene was really dumb and they did it twice in public lmaoooo
Would've made sense if they drag em in the shadows or some room
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SONIC_305 posted...

EnterTheTekken posted...

The dog scene really drug the movie down to the point where I just wanted it to be over. The moment for me that killed any momentum was in Grand Central Station when John blatantly kills a man in public & broad daylight and no one reacts.

Yes that scene was really dumb and they did it twice in public lmaoooo
Would've made sense if they drag em in the shadows or some room

Gotta have full lighting for the 12+ dick biting scenes. Girl power!!!