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Skye Reynolds
06/01/19 11:09:55 PM
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* I've said I wanted more diversity. We've gotten that or are in the process of getting it.

* I've said I wanted legit female heroes and not patronizing films like Catwoman or generic side-character-in-black-tights like Black Widow. We've gotten that. Movies like Wonder Woman and Mad Max: Fury Road kick all kinds of ass.

* A long time ago, I hoped Godzilla would make a positive impact with American audiences. We're getting that now.

* I wanted people to stop using rape as an edgy villain moment or a "shocking" scene. The people that pushed this shit were just rape fetishists looking to get their jollies up anyway. It's virtually disappeared in wake of the #metoo movement.

* I've said that Shaft should never be remade, but rather his legacy should be preserved. We're getting that. Shaft (Richard Roundtree) came back, his nephew (Samuel L. Jackson), and the rest of his family with him.

* I hoped that dark and edgy would pass and that even kinda suggested the likable semi-comedic guy as the protagonist. We're getting that. Less Edward the Vampire / brooding Batman protagonists and more Chris Pratt types.

Yet, I still don't feel altogether happy with the current Hollywood product. Some of the old problems have been replaced with new ones. I still feel like there are several creative limitations. My only real gripes are the way that modern fight scenes are edited and the way that there's a certain accepted type of female characters. (Emphasis: singular.)

Beyond that, there's nothing really to get upset about. I feel like it's head and shoulders above what it was a decade ago. Maybe I'm just mad that I'm watching movies instead of writing movies.
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GeneralKenobi85
06/01/19 11:10:48 PM
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What's wrong with Black Widow?
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Skye Reynolds
06/01/19 11:15:50 PM
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GeneralKenobi85 posted...
What's wrong with Black Widow?


Look at the original Avengers poster.

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Iron Man has personality in his design.
Thor has personality in his design.
Hulk has personality.
Cap too.
A bit muted, but Hawkeye has personality.

These characters all have a good presentation to them. You can tell by looking at them that they're significant characters who will shape the story.

Then you have the chick and the black guy in basic clothing. (And they're in the background.) No special marking. Nothing to to suggest that their title might begin with "The" or "Captain" or "Super." They're just there.

We've come a long way since there. If Black Widow were introduced today, she'd have a more memorable costume design and a probably lot more dialogue. Nick Fury would be the same character, but he wouldn't be the only black guy in the series -- the normal human being yelling at white superheroes. Now we have Black Panther. He's only one character, but it's a good start. A very strong start.

Like I said, Hollywood's making a lot of headway on diversity. Inclusion is in.
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Skye Reynolds
06/01/19 11:18:48 PM
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I'm really tired right now, so this is just a random string of consciousness for me.

<_<
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GeneralKenobi85
06/01/19 11:27:01 PM
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Skye Reynolds posted...
GeneralKenobi85 posted...
What's wrong with Black Widow?


Look at the original Avengers poster.

D4Um4CC

Iron Man has personality in his design.
Thor has personality in his design.
Hulk has personality.
Cap too.
A bit muted, but Hawkeye has personality.

These characters all have a good presentation to them. You can tell by looking at them that they're significant characters who will shape the story.

Then you have the chick and the black guy in basic clothing. (And they're in the background.) No special marking. Nothing to to suggest that their title might begin with "The" or "Captain" or "Super." They're just there.

We've come a long way since there. If Black Widow were introduced today, she'd have a more memorable costume design and a probably lot more dialogue. Nick Fury would be the same character, but he wouldn't be the only black guy in the series -- the normal human being yelling at white superheroes. Now we have Black Panther. He's only one character, but it's a good start. A very strong start.

Like I said, Hollywood's making a lot of headway on diversity. Inclusion is in.

I sort of get what you're saying but Black Widow actually became a pretty solid character in the MCU.
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Skye Reynolds
06/01/19 11:28:17 PM
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GeneralKenobi85 posted...
I sort of get what you're saying but Black Widow actually became a pretty solid character in the MCU.


She did.
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HiddenLurker
06/01/19 11:41:24 PM
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GeneralKenobi85 posted...
I sort of get what you're saying but Black Widow actually became a pretty solid character in the MCU.

...to then be comply overshadowed by Captain Marvel.
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