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The Wheelman1
06/05/19 5:10:10 PM
#152:


I get that we hate pedophiles and all but this seems too extreme.
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Gamerguymass
06/05/19 5:27:16 PM
#153:


TheGreatGeno326 posted...
DoomSwell posted...
I think this might be the right approach.
They do need to be castrated, not only as punishment but as a safety precaution for their own potential future children. With that in mind, chemically does seem the most humane way to do it. That might be what separates it from "cruel & unusual" and makes it fair.

Exactly. We're not mutilating them, we're medicating them. Pedophilia is a mental illness and chemical castration is an effective treatment, and will prevent more children from being hurt.


If pedophilia is a mental illness then you are punishing them for something that isn't their fault. Mental illness is never blamed on the person suffering from it and they are always thought of as the victim. So you would essentially be doing harm to someone for a mental condition they can't control.
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TheDrivingForce
06/05/19 5:32:28 PM
#154:


How does chemical castration work? Because the only thing I'm picturing is someone pouring a bucket of acid on someone else's bare crotch. I'm guessing injection?
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scorpion41
06/05/19 5:32:58 PM
#155:


Gamerguymass posted...
TheGreatGeno326 posted...
DoomSwell posted...
I think this might be the right approach.
They do need to be castrated, not only as punishment but as a safety precaution for their own potential future children. With that in mind, chemically does seem the most humane way to do it. That might be what separates it from "cruel & unusual" and makes it fair.

Exactly. We're not mutilating them, we're medicating them. Pedophilia is a mental illness and chemical castration is an effective treatment, and will prevent more children from being hurt.


If pedophilia is a mental illness then you are punishing them for something that isn't their fault. Mental illness is never blamed on the person suffering from it and they are always thought of as the victim. So you would essentially be doing harm to someone for a mental condition they can't control.


Youre not harming them. The process has no long-term negative effects. Medicating them will help them not to act on urges that are never there to begin with and protects future potential victims.
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mustachedmystic
06/05/19 5:35:44 PM
#156:


Tmaster148 posted...
Dont you think this is inhumane? I asked them, Whats more inhumane than when you take a little infant child and you sexually molest that infant child when the child cannot defend themselves or get away,


So, is he saying that the answer to someones inhumanity is more inhumanity? "Cause that's what that sounds like. Also, 8'th amendment.
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Dragonblade01
06/05/19 6:30:01 PM
#157:


The Trent posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
The Trent posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
"I support ineffective non-solutions as long as they satisfy my emotional need for justice."


i don't give a shit about what justice is for people who commit these sorts of acts
whatever punishment happens to them, i am okay with

That's a really weird thing to say.

So you'd be okay with no punishment then?


you really don't know what i meant despite my poor phrasing?

I think your poor phrasing shows how sloppy your thought process is.
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CADE FOSTER
06/05/19 6:30:49 PM
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Shablagoo
06/05/19 6:34:49 PM
#159:


Machete posted...
Yeah that was great. He just says something "I'm just the mariachi..." and leaves the other doofuses out to dry. It seemed like that one was thinking "please don't look under my dress. Please don't look under my dress..." over and over in his head.

Oh my god lmao

Man I hope we get a 2nd season, I understand if they cant pull it off again though.
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Tyranthraxus
06/05/19 7:36:22 PM
#160:


Y'all can argue about the inhumanity all you want but several courts have been offering this as an option to pedos for years in exchange for a lighter sentence and the recidivism rate is basically nothing. It's normally pretty high. Sex offenders are some of the most likely to repeat.
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Tyranthraxus
06/05/19 7:46:50 PM
#162:


JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
Y'all can argue about the inhumanity all you want but several courts have been offering this as an option to pedos for years in exchange for a lighter sentence and the recidivism rate is basically nothing. It's normally pretty high. Sex offenders are some of the most likely to repeat.


Source? Physical castration doesnt prevent erections, so Im wondering if theres a difference.


Look up a law document titled "Voluntary Surgical Castration of Sex Offenders"

Should be easy to find. It's a PDF can't pull it up on mobile right now.

One case study was actually championed by a pedo who wanted to be allowed to do it because he wanted to stop raping kids and originally he wasn't allowed to do it because of the 8th amendment.
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RoboLaserGandhi
06/05/19 7:53:04 PM
#163:


Cruel and unusual.

Should be immediately struck down by SCOTUS.
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Dragonblade01
06/05/19 7:58:19 PM
#164:


Tyranthraxus posted...
JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
Y'all can argue about the inhumanity all you want but several courts have been offering this as an option to pedos for years in exchange for a lighter sentence and the recidivism rate is basically nothing. It's normally pretty high. Sex offenders are some of the most likely to repeat.


Source? Physical castration doesnt prevent erections, so Im wondering if theres a difference.


Look up a law document titled "Voluntary Surgical Castration of Sex Offenders"

Should be easy to find. It's a PDF can't pull it up on mobile right now.

One case study was actually championed by a pedo who wanted to be allowed to do it because he wanted to stop raping kids and originally he wasn't allowed to do it because of the 8th amendment.

The word "voluntary" is key. Low recidivism rates aren't as impressive following a voluntary procedure.
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Tyranthraxus
06/05/19 8:04:48 PM
#165:


Dragonblade01 posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
Y'all can argue about the inhumanity all you want but several courts have been offering this as an option to pedos for years in exchange for a lighter sentence and the recidivism rate is basically nothing. It's normally pretty high. Sex offenders are some of the most likely to repeat.


Source? Physical castration doesnt prevent erections, so Im wondering if theres a difference.


Look up a law document titled "Voluntary Surgical Castration of Sex Offenders"

Should be easy to find. It's a PDF can't pull it up on mobile right now.

One case study was actually championed by a pedo who wanted to be allowed to do it because he wanted to stop raping kids and originally he wasn't allowed to do it because of the 8th amendment.

The word "voluntary" is key. Low recidivism rates aren't as impressive following a voluntary procedure.

That has been my stance since I started posting here at #117
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WellKnownNomad
06/06/19 1:16:21 AM
#166:


The Wheelman1 posted...
I get that we hate pedophiles and all but this seems too extreme.

nah
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omega cookie
06/06/19 1:45:53 AM
#167:


Alabama doing a good thing for once. Cool.
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