Board 8 > Nationalist politics topic 16: Zealots accidentally bring us to historical truth

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SmartMuffin
06/17/19 6:12:14 PM
#101:


Today I learned that since I moved to the suburbs, I am now represented by Dan Crenshaw, lol.

I've lived in a ton of places but I honestly think this is the first time I've ever lived in a congressional district held by a Republican...
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SmartMuffin
06/18/19 7:48:30 AM
#102:


https://twitter.com/aedwardslevy/status/1140681343464067072

Doesn't the popular one basically just mean "like Obamacare except the government literally runs the insurance company"?

Why would anyone consider that a significant improvement over what we have today?
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SmartMuffin
06/18/19 6:38:10 PM
#103:


https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1140891300968796160

People should really know better than to fuck around with Andy on Twitter... this is pretty impressive.
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Jakyl25
06/18/19 10:16:33 PM
#104:


Thats a lot of trusting the governments explanation of events in that thread!
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Vlado
06/19/19 6:35:34 AM
#105:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
Vlado posted...
I don't get your point. You yourself say they are two brands of the same company.


i'm saying that if your argument is "facebook is a monopoly because everyone uses facebook," i'm saying the "everyone uses facebook" part is wrong because tons of people use instagram rather than facebook.

if your argument is "facebook (the company) is a monopoly because they own both facebook (the social network) and instagram," that's an understandable stance but not quite correct. a lot of people are on linkedin, for instance.

for clarity's sake, is your argument that both facebook and instagram are terrible? you only seem to complain about the censorship on facebook. don't think i've ever seen you bring up insta.

Instagram is photos and the speech is secondary at best. But I'm sure they've censored people for wrongthink there, too.

SmartMuffin posted...
Today I learned that since I moved to the suburbs, I am now represented by Dan Crenshaw, lol.

I've lived in a ton of places but I honestly think this is the first time I've ever lived in a congressional district held by a Republican...

Republican or "Republican"? Important difference.

Meanwhile, Orbn continues unapologetically kicking ass.

"Sorry, this is a complete nonsense," Orbn wrote in response to the EPP's statement that "the absence of European symbols on official buildings [in Hungary] and those of the party is striking, and, in part, a sign that FIDESZ does not share the same European commitment as other EPP member parties."

Asked if his party is "prepared to cease campaigning against European institutions, as has happened in the past, refrain from putting the EPP in a negative light and from personally attacking the EPP's leadership in speech and articles," Orbn wrote that "we reserve our right to openly criticize any institution of the European Union, the EPP, as well as their leaders whenever we disagree."

When pressed to explain what he means by the expression "illiberal state" which Orbn has said he is building in Hungary the prime minister wrote that "whether one admits it or not: Christian democrats are illiberals by definition."

"Transparency International is an organization funded by [Hungarian-American businessman George] Soros. It is obviously biased and motivated politically," the prime minister wrote. "We do not take their report into consideration."

https://archive.fo/awQhf

This is how you destroy the globalists. Not a step back when hit with their libel, just relentless pushback.
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TheRock1525
06/19/19 7:48:53 AM
#106:


Soros!

Drink!
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SmartMuffin
06/19/19 8:05:30 AM
#107:


"The term 'concentration camp' is just a reference to any sort of forced labor camp common among any type of repressive regime and should not be taken as a specific reference to nazis or jews" is a pretty spicy take, coming from the left, who typically sees nazi dogwhistles in literally everything.
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Maniac64
06/19/19 8:38:49 AM
#108:


What is an illiberal?
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Jakyl25
06/19/19 8:50:18 AM
#109:


SmartMuffin posted...
"The term 'concentration camp' is just a reference to any sort of forced labor camp common among any type of repressive regime and should not be taken as a specific reference to nazis or jews" is a pretty spicy take, coming from the left, who typically sees nazi dogwhistles in literally everything.


You should applaud them for not being politically correct!
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Vlado
06/20/19 5:00:21 AM
#110:


Full transcript of Orbn's answers to EPP: https://visegradpost.com/en/2019/06/18/orbans-answers-to-epp-letter/

Also, apparently someone at US military thinks they can win nuclear war: https://www.rt.com/usa/462251-nuclear-doctrine-document-pentagon/

Full document: https://fas.org/irp/doddir/dod/jp3_72.pdf

*cue laughter*
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SmartMuffin
06/20/19 8:12:07 AM
#111:


http://www.unz.com/isteve/thats-doctor-marijuana-pepsi-vandyck/

The current year woke remake of "A Boy Named Sue."
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Espeon
06/20/19 9:08:59 AM
#112:


Vlado posted...
Full transcript of Orbn's answers to EPP: https://visegradpost.com/en/2019/06/18/orbans-answers-to-epp-letter/

Also, apparently someone at US military thinks they can win nuclear war: https://www.rt.com/usa/462251-nuclear-doctrine-document-pentagon/

Full document: https://fas.org/irp/doddir/dod/jp3_72.pdf

*cue laughter*


Nationalists are stupid enough to think nuclear war is winnable, yes.
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Vlado
06/20/19 9:14:06 AM
#113:


The athletes, who have all lost high school track events to transgender runners, filed the complaint with the US Education Department's Office for Civil Rights. They are asking for a review of the rule allowing transgender athletes to participate in competitions according to the gender with which they identify.

"Girls deserve to compete on a level playing field," said legal counsel for Alliance Defending Freedom Christiana Holcomb.

"Women fought long and hard to earn the equal athletic opportunities that Title IX provides. Allowing boys to compete in girls' sports reverses nearly 50 years of advances for women under this law. We shouldn't force these young women to be spectators in their own sports."

https://www.rt.com/sport/462295-transgender-runners-discrimination-complaint/

Let's see if there's still any common sense left in that country.
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Espeon
06/20/19 9:39:45 AM
#114:


If theyre allowing boys to compete against girls, then they NEED transgender girls competing in order to give those interloping boys a run for their money.
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DeepsPraw
06/20/19 10:35:29 AM
#115:


cis girls need to git gud
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Hardcore_Adult
06/20/19 1:57:36 PM
#116:


Maniac64 posted...
What is an illiberal?


A Greenie with a Tummy Bug?

*drums*

I'm here all week!
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SmartMuffin
06/20/19 9:13:20 PM
#117:


https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/1141788043508092928

Ann keeps getting better. This is basically just a re-statement of "Woods' law" (that no matter who you vote for, you get John McCain)
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Inviso
06/20/19 9:16:56 PM
#118:


She could've at least cited a conflict Obama's administration STARTED, rather than citing Republicans starting shit, and Obama being forced to continue shit. Don't you guys always get up in arms about Libya?
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SmartMuffin
06/20/19 9:17:50 PM
#119:


Inviso posted...
She could've at least cited a conflict Obama's administration STARTED, rather than citing Republicans starting shit, and Obama being forced to continue shit. Don't you guys always get up in arms about Libya?


He wasn't forced to do anything. He could have instantly and immediately recalled all the troops in both wars. He chose not to.
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Inviso
06/20/19 9:19:47 PM
#120:


SmartMuffin posted...
Inviso posted...
She could've at least cited a conflict Obama's administration STARTED, rather than citing Republicans starting shit, and Obama being forced to continue shit. Don't you guys always get up in arms about Libya?


He wasn't forced to do anything. He could have instantly and immediately recalled all the troops in both wars. He chose not to.


Because immediately withdrawing troops from a war we started couldn't possibly have negative consequences.
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SmartMuffin
06/20/19 9:25:44 PM
#121:


I must have missed when he campaigned on "I'll end the wars if and only if by doing so I can absolutely guarantee there will be no negative consequences."
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Inviso
06/20/19 9:27:44 PM
#122:


SmartMuffin posted...
I must have missed when he campaigned on "I'll end the wars if and only if by doing so I can absolutely guarantee there will be no negative consequences."


I must have missed the part when it was necessarily a GOOD thing to campaign on stupid, unrealistic bullshit, and then NOT change your plans once you realize how stupid and harmful and unrealistic it is. Hence Trump currently looking to get utterly ravaged by any Democrat in 2020.
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Jakyl25
06/21/19 12:23:26 AM
#123:


SmartMuffin posted...
https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/1141788043508092928

Ann keeps getting better. This is basically just a re-statement of "Woods' law" (that no matter who you vote for, you get John McCain)


You realize she has no principles, right?

Like Vlado says, controlled opposition
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Vlado
06/21/19 3:34:46 AM
#124:


Inviso posted...
Because immediately withdrawing troops from a war we started couldn't possibly have negative consequences.

This is the dumbest excuse. "Oh, somebody else started the war, and now we can't end it even though we REALLY want to end it, believe us! We REALLY want to end it, but we can't because reasons."

Stop pretending you are anti-war.
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Vlado
06/21/19 5:37:07 AM
#125:


Meanwhile, the shadow of another war looms... https://www.rt.com/news/462369-trump-message-iran-attack-reports/
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Hardcore_Adult
06/21/19 6:36:35 AM
#126:


*would pay to see Trump v Iron Sheik at the Garden*

Shit, I'd press my best suit for that lol.
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Inviso
06/21/19 7:41:49 AM
#127:


Vlado posted...
Inviso posted...
Because immediately withdrawing troops from a war we started couldn't possibly have negative consequences.

This is the dumbest excuse. "Oh, somebody else started the war, and now we can't end it even though we REALLY want to end it, believe us! We REALLY want to end it, but we can't because reasons."

Stop pretending you are anti-war.


Stop pretending you give two shits about stopping wars when you support nationalism as your ideology of choice. As history has proven time and time again, nationalism inevitably leads to war EVERY time.

You're not anti-war. You just know that anti-war is a common sense stance that rational people should have, and it doesn't directly contradict with your white ethnostate desires. Same as your calling out of corporations. Neither of these things are issues you ACTUALLY care about, but claiming you do just makes you look slightly more rational, and doesn't get in the way of your racism and overall bigotry, which is the only issue that really matters to you.
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Mr Lasastryke
06/21/19 7:58:24 AM
#128:


SmartMuffin posted...
https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/1141788043508092928

Ann keeps getting better. This is basically just a re-statement of "Woods' law" (that no matter who you vote for, you get John McCain)


i mean, during the campaign foolmo and i constantly pointed out that the whole "trump is so anti-war" thing was bullshit. i'm glad you finally believe it when coulter says it, i guess?
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SmartMuffin
06/21/19 8:15:04 AM
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SmartMuffin
06/21/19 8:16:48 AM
#130:


Jakyl25 posted...
SmartMuffin posted...
https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/1141788043508092928

Ann keeps getting better. This is basically just a re-statement of "Woods' law" (that no matter who you vote for, you get John McCain)


You realize she has no principles, right?

Like Vlado says, controlled opposition


What? From where I stand, she has more principles than most political commentators.

The left loves to loudly declare that Trump supporters are just a bunch of sycophants who continue to support him even though he lies to them and repeatedly fails to deliver on his promises. People like Coulter and Spencer turned on Trump almost immediately once it became apparent he wouldn't deliver on his promises, and publicly attack him on an almost daily basis - and get no credit for it.

Who were the hardcore left wingers that started going after Obama midway through his first term for failing to end the wars?
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Mr Lasastryke
06/21/19 8:26:11 AM
#131:


SmartMuffin posted...
People like Coulter and Spencer turned on Trump almost immediately once it became apparent he wouldn't deliver on his promises, and publicly attack him on an almost daily basis - and get no credit for it.


it took coulter ages to turn on trump lol.

and she only turned on him because "WAHHHH HE'S NOT BUILDING THE WALL FAST ENOUGH." if you do a complete 180 on someone because of one single issue, you're probably not very principled.

Who were the hardcore left wingers that started going after Obama midway through his first term for failing to end the wars?


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Hardcore_Adult
06/21/19 9:02:57 AM
#132:


There was a fair bit of crying toward's Obama's reigns, wasn't there?
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Jakyl25
06/21/19 9:07:41 AM
#133:


SmartMuffin posted...

Who were the hardcore left wingers that started going after Obama midway through his first term for failing to end the wars?


Its a big reason why I didnt vote for him in 2012
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Jakyl25
06/21/19 9:11:00 AM
#134:


Also who is Spencer? As in Richard Spencer?
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Vlado
06/21/19 9:13:18 AM
#135:


Inviso posted...
Same as your calling out of corporations.

Seeing as they're the driving forces behind globalism, of course they'll be my main enemy. They're also the ones running the idiotic movements you identify with.
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Jakyl25
06/21/19 9:14:44 AM
#136:


Also she literally wrote a book called In Trump We Trust

So at the very least shes a fool
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Vlado
06/21/19 9:16:50 AM
#137:


Jakyl25 posted...
Also she literally wrote a book called In Trump We Trust

So at the very least shes a fool

We all did once. :) (Maybe "wishful thinking" is more appropriate than "trust.") No shame in admitting your mistake.

Meanwhile, a rare sight - a good man from hollywood!

The truth is, however, abortion is the termination of life. It is just a euphemism for murder because the only reason to get an abortion is to avoid the potential of birth a human birth.

We dress it up with my body, my choice, but it is still a life inside of a womans womb, and that life is still extinguished by the brutal procedure of abortion.

In some cases, disturbing the nest of a sea turtle and stealing its eggs is a crime punishable by years in prison and tremendous fines, but we have an entire industry in this nation devoted to the murder of unborn human beings.

This is the definition of evil, pure and simple.

https://activistmommy.com/kevin-sorbo-nails-liberal-hypocrisy-in-one-perfect-tweet-a-party-that-supports-abortion-is-going-to-lecture-me-on-morals/
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Jakyl25
06/21/19 9:20:51 AM
#138:


Vlado posted...

We all did once. :) (Maybe "wishful thinking" is more appropriate than "trust.") No shame in admitting your mistake.


Has she ever actually admitted her mistake? My perception, possibly flawed, is that she just dumps on Trump when hes not doing what she wants and praises him to high heaven when he does, with no reflection about why she vacillates or any perspective about why she was originally so fooled
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Mr Lasastryke
06/21/19 9:21:02 AM
#139:


i don't even get where muffin is at at this point tbqh. he thinks coulter is great for bashing trump but he considers voting for trump in 2020 anyway?
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Jakyl25
06/21/19 9:23:13 AM
#140:


Hercules said...

In some cases, disturbing the nest of a sea turtle and stealing its eggs is a crime punishable by years in prison and tremendous fines, but we have an entire industry in this nation devoted to the murder of unborn human beings.


This is an amazingly bad analogy
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Mr Lasastryke
06/21/19 9:23:23 AM
#141:


Jakyl25 posted...
Has she ever actually admitted her mistake? My perception, possibly flawed, is that she just dumps on Trump when hes not doing what she wants and praises him to high heaven when he does, with no reflection about why she vacillates or any perspective about why she was originally so fooled


she said she's "a very stupid girl" for having supported trump on maher's show, in fairness.

she's a terrible person but i'll defend her on this one.
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Jakyl25
06/21/19 9:24:14 AM
#142:


Ugh you watch Bill Mahar?
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Mr Lasastryke
06/21/19 9:25:30 AM
#143:


not usually! i just stumbled upon that youtube video for some reason.
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Espeon
06/21/19 9:28:33 AM
#144:


Vlado posted...
Inviso posted...
Same as your calling out of corporations.

Seeing as they're the driving forces behind globalism, of course they'll be my main enemy. They're also the ones running the idiotic movements you identify with.


Ive already posted a lengthy response as to when corporations benefit far more from nationalism than globalism, you opted to neither refute my points, nor explain your views as anything more than lmfao common sense rofl. So again, I posit that you only give a shit about corporations as a means of virtue signaling how youre against a universal boogeyman, yet you dont actually support anything that harms their interests.
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Vlado
06/21/19 9:37:54 AM
#145:


If you write a "lengthy response" about why 2+2=5, of course I won't comment, either. I can't waste my time with something like that.
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Espeon
06/21/19 9:42:59 AM
#146:


Vlado posted...
If you write a "lengthy response" about why 2+2=5, of course I won't comment, either. I can't waste my time with something like that.


Youve gotten into lengthy debates about a conspiracy theory that globalist propaganda Fox News literally made up, and you STILL believe will be proven true eventually. So dont pull that bullshit, coward.
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Espeon
06/21/19 9:45:30 AM
#147:


Also, 2+2 is a mathematical equation that has a factual answer. The nationalism vs. globalism debate is literally opinion vs. opinion. Which means you should at least be able to justify your opinion with some sort of argument, right?
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Vlado
06/21/19 9:52:56 AM
#148:


Since arguing with someone who believes corporations are against globalism would bring the same results as arguing with someone who believes 2+2=5 (i.e. none), I choose to save myself some time and effort.

Note that none of your buddies here would agree with you on that one, either, except maybe if they cared to try to instigate me.
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Espeon
06/21/19 9:55:54 AM
#149:


Vlado posted...
Since arguing with someone who believes corporations are against globalism would bring the same results as arguing with someone who believes 2+2=5 (i.e. none), I choose to save myself some time and effort.

Note that none of your buddies here would agree with you on that one, either, except maybe if they cared to try to instigate me.


I said corporations are FOR nationalism, not AGAINST globalism. Corporations benefit tremendously from nationalist policies. Prove me wrong.
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Espeon
06/21/19 9:57:22 AM
#150:


Also, do you consider globalism and globalization to be the same thing?
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