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UnfairRepresent 06/07/19 12:42:45 PM #1: |
After much controversy, the Bakersfield, Calif., City Council on Wednesday approved a proposal to add In God We Trust decals to both police and fire vehicles.
I love the motto, said Councilmember Jacquie Sullivan, according to The Bakersfield Californian. Its meaningful. Its powerful. Those words are intended to encourage. Sullivans non-profit organization, In God We Trust America, has offered to pay for the decals. U.S. Rep. Kevin McCarthy, who represents Bakersfield, had said he fully supported the decals. Displaying In God We Trust the official motto of the United States on Bakersfield Police Department cars is a testament to each officers commitment to upholding the rule of law and defending the City of Bakersfield and its residents, he said in a statement to The Californian Lawyers for the American Civil Liberties Union showed up at the city council meeting to oppose the proposal, calling it bad public policy. Unlike God, police officers are fallible, ACLU lawyer Jordan Wells said. Their conduct should be scrutinized by the public, and when they overstep their authority, we must insist on accountability. One council member, Andrae Gonzales, said he is Christian but voted against the decals. The God I believe in is much bigger than a bumper sticker, he said. City council members in nearby Delano approved a proposal last month to add In God We Trust to police vehicles. The city of Shafter, which borders Bakersfield, is expected to vote on a similar proposal later this month. Full Article: https://www.foxnews.com/faith-values/california-city-approves-adding-in-god-we-trust-to-police-fire-vehicles I don't think religion should be on government vehicles. And think of all the people that time and money could help. If you're really Christian and really believe in God, surely like giving a family some food or filling a pothole means more than breaking the 3rd commandment and pissing on the idea of seperation of church and state I guess the Gods these fellas believe in doesn't care about humans and is a bit of an asshat --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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D-Lo_BrownTown 06/07/19 12:46:13 PM #2: |
Who cares?
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scorpion41 06/07/19 12:47:15 PM #3: |
Okay? Doesnt hurt anyone and the people want it.
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Fossil 06/07/19 12:47:33 PM #4: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
I guess the Gods these fellas believe in doesn't care about humans and is a bit of an asshat ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 06/07/19 12:48:05 PM #5: |
D-Lo_BrownTown posted...
Who cares? Well this is global news so hundreds of thousands if not millions of people including myself. I'll quote the shit villain from Fallout New Vegas "Who are you who does not know your History?" --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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D-Lo_BrownTown 06/07/19 12:59:05 PM #6: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
D-Lo_BrownTown posted...Who cares? Quoting videogames and getting upset at decals. You must be real popular in real life. --- The idea here is to reward accepting a moderation ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SSJCAT 06/07/19 12:59:54 PM #7: |
here in the south i see that on tons of cop cars already
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TennTux 06/07/19 1:03:02 PM #8: |
Imagine the look on UR's face when he finds out Christians aren't the only group that worships that same God as Muslims and Jews also trust in God
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Old NoiseTank 06/07/19 1:06:41 PM #9: |
bakersfield, not surprised.
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UnfairRepresent 06/07/19 1:07:12 PM #10: |
TennTux posted...
Imagine the look on UR's face when he finds out Christians aren't the only group that worships that same God as Muslims and Jews also trust in God And what do you think would happen if "In Allah we trust" was put on cop cars and fire trucks? Would be 12 hours before someone set fire to one. SSJCAT posted... here in the south i see that on tons of cop cars already and there are those on the surface who view that with concern no? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NathanX95 06/07/19 1:08:33 PM #11: |
This is literally non news. If you get upset about this, you have bigger issues.
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The Admiral 06/07/19 1:12:50 PM #12: |
NathanX95 posted...
This is literally non news. If you get upset about this, you have bigger issues. --- - The Admiral ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 06/07/19 1:14:15 PM #13: |
The Admiral posted...
NathanX95 posted...This is literally non news. If you get upset about this, you have bigger issues. Didn't you just make a topic about a Canadian professor's views on dodgeball? --- kin to all that throbs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Paragon21XX 06/07/19 1:16:27 PM #14: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
TennTux posted...Imagine the look on UR's face when he finds out Christians aren't the only group that worships that same God as Muslims and Jews also trust in God Allah is just a generic Arabic word meaning god used by every Arabic person regardless of which faith they follow. Americans generally speak English, so God is the correct word to use here. Jews call God "Adonai" or "Elohim" in the Hebrew language, but you don't usually hear them say it or see them write it when speaking of God in English. --- Hmm... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AlephZero 06/07/19 1:17:03 PM #15: |
should be in bernie we trust
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UnfairRepresent 06/07/19 1:19:03 PM #16: |
Antifar posted...
Didn't you just make a topic about a Canadian professor's views on dodgeball? Please don't feed trolls NathanX95 posted... This is literally non news. If you get upset about this, you have bigger issues. "bigger issues exist" is not a defense of anything. It's a very lazy intellectually dishonest evasion. Imagine going to a police station and saying "My car was just stolen" and they go "Pfft this is literally non news. If you get upset about this, you have bigger issues." This is a bad thing and one worth talking about. I think you know that too which is why you're so afraid to talk about it, because you like it but can't actually defend it --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 06/07/19 1:21:19 PM #17: |
Paragon21XX posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...TennTux posted...Imagine the look on UR's face when he finds out Christians aren't the only group that worships that same God as Muslims and Jews also trust in God You intentionally just dodged my point. If "In Allah we trust" was proposed to be put on police cars, no one would go "Well Allah just means God" people (and mainly the same people who want In "God We trust" put on) would be livid. You're being intellectually dishonest when you pretend otherwise. Vocal Christians in America are not okay with spreading the Islamic faith, let alone the government spreading Islamic faith. This evidenced everytime schools do work or homework that involves reading te Qu'ran and people flip out --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 06/07/19 1:23:36 PM #18: |
Antifar posted...
The Admiral posted...NathanX95 posted...This is literally non news. If you get upset about this, you have bigger issues. Yes. And you're welcome to quote where I said I was "upset" by that. --- - The Admiral ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CableZL 06/07/19 1:25:51 PM #19: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
Paragon21XX posted...UnfairRepresent posted...TennTux posted...Imagine the look on UR's face when he finds out Christians aren't the only group that worships that same God as Muslims and Jews also trust in God To be fair, I'm sure there would be at least a few people who would understand that and go "Well Allah just means God," but your point still stands that it would likely be vandalized pretty quickly. Being a police vehicle, though, I'd imagine most people who would have a problem with it would just lose their shit without vandalizing it, but you never really know. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 06/07/19 1:30:01 PM #20: |
CableZL posted...
Even ignoring the vandalizing, my point is people would be against it. Going "Well Jews and Muslims exist too" when there are only 8 million jews and muslims in the US but 300 million Christians, a lot of whom would hate promoting Islam.. is a lazy counter-point to this. It's bad for the line between church and state to be blured. It's a waste of time and money to put it on governent vehicles and it sends totally the wrong message for society. "We trust in things without proof" is the last thing you want the people in charge of judging whether or not you get arrested or your home burns down to display proudly. And it's alarming if a lot of religious people don't agree. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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spudger 06/07/19 1:34:28 PM #21: |
what does god have to do with policing and protecting and serving the public?
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Fossil 06/07/19 1:36:29 PM #22: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
Going "Well Jews and Muslims exist too" when there are only 8 million jews and muslims in the US but 300 million Christians Try closer to 240 million. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gmanthebest 06/07/19 1:36:52 PM #23: |
Separation of church and state should always be a thing, no matter how minor it seems. This better get fixed
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UnfairRepresent 06/07/19 1:40:20 PM #24: |
spudger posted...
what does god have to do with policing and protecting and serving the public? A good question gmanthebest posted... Separation of church and state should always be a thing, no matter how minor it seems. This better get fixed The City has already okayed it --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eggcorn 06/07/19 1:42:14 PM #25: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
I don't think religion should be on government vehicles. D-Lo_BrownTown posted... Who cares? --- Warning: This post may contain triggering or distressing content. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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spudger 06/07/19 1:43:15 PM #26: |
eggcorn posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...I don't think religion should be on government vehicles. obviously many people --- -Only dead fish swim with the current http://error1355.com/ce/spudger.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 06/07/19 1:44:04 PM #27: |
eggcorn posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...I don't think religion should be on government vehicles. a great number of people care actually. Unfair is right. it shouldn't be on government vehicles. and probably half of all Americans agree ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VipaGTS 06/07/19 1:45:27 PM #28: |
lol, just go around telling everyone its a god of Islam or Hinduism. Watch them flip out.
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UnfairRepresent 06/07/19 1:46:33 PM #29: |
eggcorn posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...I don't think religion should be on government vehicles. Millions of people? Including everyone who knows history and has read the Consitution? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eggcorn 06/07/19 1:48:49 PM #30: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
eggcorn posted...UnfairRepresent posted...I don't think religion should be on government vehicles. Millions of people including everyone who knows history and has read the constitution care what you think? Ok. --- Warning: This post may contain triggering or distressing content. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZeroKelvin 06/07/19 1:48:51 PM #31: |
Religious zealots are the worst
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Questionmarktarius 06/07/19 1:49:34 PM #32: |
All in all, about as meaningful and effective as a "DARE" or "Say NO to Drugs" sticker, so I don't see the big deal, apart from being a waste of time.
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Bloodychess 06/07/19 1:56:19 PM #33: |
This is going to really impact peoples lives
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UnfairRepresent 06/07/19 1:56:48 PM #34: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
All in all, about as meaningful and effective as a "DARE" or "Say NO to Drugs" sticker, so I don't see the big deal, apart from being a waste of time. Seperation of church and state The message being sent by the Government and police force. "Don't do drugs" and "We believe in and trust God" are different statements. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 06/07/19 1:56:56 PM #35: |
I hope these folks never look at their money. They'll be shook.
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Questionmarktarius 06/07/19 1:58:18 PM #36: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
Seperation of church and state A meaningless "we're religious!" platitude is not establishment of religion. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 06/07/19 2:03:24 PM #37: |
What about people that don't trust in God?
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Questionmarktarius 06/07/19 2:04:41 PM #38: |
hockeybub89 posted...
What about people that don't trust in God? Hold on to your butts. We're repeating the 50's "revival" again for some reason. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 06/07/19 2:04:41 PM #39: |
The Admiral posted...
I hope these folks never look at their money. They'll be shook. We should also remove it from money and re-re-write our anthem to remove the Christian propaganda. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Southernfatman 06/07/19 2:05:36 PM #40: |
I think it's appropriate for all cop cars to have it on there since cops sure love making people meet god.
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UnfairRepresent 06/07/19 2:06:40 PM #41: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...Seperation of church and state In private? Sure On government vehicles? No. It is an endorsement of religion. As repeatedly earlier, people would be enraged if it said "allah" instead of god. If that were the case no one would be denying that it's an endorsement. I'm assuming you mean endorsement BTW because establishment makes no sense that context hockeybub89 posted... What about people that don't trust in God? Indeed. I'm sure this is a great comforting message for issues where it's an atheist's word agaisnt a Christians. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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spudger 06/07/19 2:07:20 PM #42: |
hockeybub89 posted...
The Admiral posted...I hope these folks never look at their money. They'll be shook. i dont think it was even on money until the 50's red scare propaganda swept dumb america --- -Only dead fish swim with the current http://error1355.com/ce/spudger.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 06/07/19 2:08:09 PM #43: |
spudger posted...
i dont think it was even on money until the 50's red scare propaganda swept dumb america Occasionally before the 50s, but pretty much that. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HylianFox 06/07/19 2:08:50 PM #44: |
we never should have dropped E Pluribus Unum as our motto
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UnfairRepresent 06/07/19 2:10:33 PM #45: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
spudger posted...i dont think it was even on money until the 50's red scare propaganda swept dumb america Yeah it should really be undone Unfortunatley it won't be because religion is too powerful. As we're seeing here --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 06/07/19 2:10:38 PM #46: |
HylianFox posted...
we never should have dropped E Pluribus Unum as our motto I say we go with "America - Fuck Yeah!" as the motto. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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spudger 06/07/19 2:20:05 PM #47: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...spudger posted...i dont think it was even on money until the 50's red scare propaganda swept dumb america funny thing is; if you REALLY are a Christian and REALLY think about it: Having God on money is rather blasphemous. --- -Only dead fish swim with the current http://error1355.com/ce/spudger.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 06/07/19 2:22:36 PM #48: |
spudger posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...Questionmarktarius posted...spudger posted...i dont think it was even on money until the 50's red scare propaganda swept dumb america Well this is what the Christian in the OP brought up. But yeah if you believe in the Christian God of the bible, it absolutely is. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 06/07/19 3:46:28 PM #49: |
what if the motto was "No Gods Only Men" or something like that? then religious people would be upset. see how it feels now? the government should stay out making any kind of religious declaration or endorsement
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eggcorn 06/07/19 5:51:48 PM #50: |
Zikten posted...
what if the motto was "No Gods Only Men" or something like that? then religious people would be upset. see how it feels now? the government should stay out making any kind of religious declaration or endorsement lmao You never disappoint. --- Warning: This post may contain triggering or distressing content. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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