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ShadowElite86
06/12/19 12:16:46 PM
#51:


Cool. I just want to play the game with new Pokemon. Sucks to be ya'll.
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Seaman_Prime
06/12/19 12:39:53 PM
#52:


Gamefreak is shit and have been for the longest time. They will give you the barebones minimum and get away with it because its Pokemon
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CookieMarvin
06/12/19 12:46:17 PM
#53:


guys, its really hard to make upwards of 1000 really expressive models and a whole game around them in a year or two. they cant delay pokemon bc it moves in a schedule with the anime and card game, both of which are prepped for SWSHs release this year. Im pretty confident they just didnt have enough time to get everyone in there at the quality they wanted, andll let us import everyone when theyre done.
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DarkChozoGhost
06/12/19 12:49:54 PM
#54:


CookieMarvin posted...
guys, its really hard to make upwards of 1000 really expressive models and a whole game around them in a year or two.

The models are done
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CookieMarvin
06/12/19 12:50:51 PM
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DarkChozoGhost posted...
CookieMarvin posted...
guys, its really hard to make upwards of 1000 really expressive models and a whole game around them in a year or two.

The models are done

is that what they said? did I miss that?
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CasualGuy
06/12/19 12:50:52 PM
#56:


Who buys a new pokemon game and uses the same old pokemon they've always used?
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Solar_Crimson
06/12/19 12:51:51 PM
#57:


CookieMarvin posted...
DarkChozoGhost posted...
CookieMarvin posted...
guys, its really hard to make upwards of 1000 really expressive models and a whole game around them in a year or two.

The models are done

is that what they said? did I miss that?

They're using the same models they've been using since X/Y, just with better textures.
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CookieMarvin
06/12/19 12:56:16 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
CookieMarvin posted...
DarkChozoGhost posted...
CookieMarvin posted...
guys, its really hard to make upwards of 1000 really expressive models and a whole game around them in a year or two.

The models are done

is that what they said? did I miss that?

They're using the same models they've been using since X/Y, just with better textures.


how u know this
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CookieMarvin
06/12/19 3:46:00 PM
#59:


https://twitter.com/serebiinet/status/1138878900421967872?s=21

Serebii Note: In an interview with @USgamernet, Junichi Masuda reaffirms that the sheer volume of high quality animations and desire to balance further resulted in the decision to block transfer of some Pokmon

well, there it is
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Rikiaz
06/12/19 3:59:52 PM
#60:


CookieMarvin posted...
Solar_Crimson posted...
CookieMarvin posted...
DarkChozoGhost posted...
CookieMarvin posted...
guys, its really hard to make upwards of 1000 really expressive models and a whole game around them in a year or two.

The models are done

is that what they said? did I miss that?

They're using the same models they've been using since X/Y, just with better textures.


how u know this

Cause they made a point about during XY and SuMo.
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CookieMarvin
06/12/19 5:14:37 PM
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Rikiaz posted...
CookieMarvin posted...
Solar_Crimson posted...
CookieMarvin posted...
DarkChozoGhost posted...
CookieMarvin posted...
guys, its really hard to make upwards of 1000 really expressive models and a whole game around them in a year or two.

The models are done

is that what they said? did I miss that?

They're using the same models they've been using since X/Y, just with better textures.


how u know this

Cause they made a point about during XY and SuMo.


what
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Rikiaz
06/12/19 5:20:21 PM
#62:


CookieMarvin posted...
Rikiaz posted...
CookieMarvin posted...
Solar_Crimson posted...
CookieMarvin posted...
DarkChozoGhost posted...
CookieMarvin posted...
guys, its really hard to make upwards of 1000 really expressive models and a whole game around them in a year or two.

The models are done

is that what they said? did I miss that?

They're using the same models they've been using since X/Y, just with better textures.


how u know this

Cause they made a point about during XY and SuMo.


what

When X and Y and Sun and Moon were out, Game Freak made a point about how they made universal, future proof models and animations of all the Pokmon to save on development time for future games.
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Delirious_Beard
06/12/19 5:23:40 PM
#63:


CookieMarvin posted...
https://twitter.com/serebiinet/status/1138878900421967872?s=21

Serebii Note: In an interview with @USgamernet, Junichi Masuda reaffirms that the sheer volume of high quality animations and desire to balance further resulted in the decision to block transfer of some Pokmon

well, there it is


and yet the battle animations in the game still look inferior to the ones in fucking pokemon stadium

this company is beyond pathetic
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Solar_Crimson
06/12/19 5:33:54 PM
#64:


Delirious_Beard posted...
CookieMarvin posted...
https://twitter.com/serebiinet/status/1138878900421967872?s=21

Serebii Note: In an interview with @USgamernet, Junichi Masuda reaffirms that the sheer volume of high quality animations and desire to balance further resulted in the decision to block transfer of some Pokmon

well, there it is


and yet the battle animations in the game still look inferior to the ones in fucking pokemon stadium

this company is beyond pathetic

If they can't even have Blastoise firing Hydro Pump out of its cannons, when both Hal Labs and Genius Sonority could do that in the Stadium games, Colosseum, XD, and Battle Revolution, then they really are pathetic.
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CookieMarvin
06/12/19 6:06:38 PM
#65:


goddamn I did not realize how much pokemon fans hated gamefreak before today

Rikiaz posted...
When X and Y and Sun and Moon were out, Game Freak made a point about how they made universal, future proof models and animations of all the Pokmon to save on development time for future games.


ooh ok
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Solar_Crimson
06/12/19 6:15:25 PM
#66:


CookieMarvin posted...
goddamn I did not realize how much pokemon fans hated gamefreak before today

Game Freak started losing their good will after X/Y launched. Gen 5 was the last time they truly put in serious effort in the games and packing them with content while also doing new things with the region and narrative.
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masterpug53
06/12/19 6:19:14 PM
#67:


Ten bucks says Dunsparce doesn't get the ax and stays in the active Pokedex forever and ever and ever.

Solar_Crimson posted...
If they can't even have Blastoise firing Hydro Pump out of its cannons, when both Hal Labs and Genius Sonority could do that in the Stadium games, Colosseum, XD, and Battle Revolution, then they really are pathetic.


XD really was a gem of a game, at least by Pokemon standards. Part of me still can't believe that game is now five Pokemon generations old.
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mehmeh1
06/12/19 6:38:32 PM
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The weirdest thing is, from what I've heard, masuda looked very nervous when saying that and like if he didn't want to do it, so I wonder who decided this, as it's quite obvious it wasn't masuda (he was right there during the gen 3 fiasco, and at least according to some guy in the swsh boards, the backlash was so hard he was hospitalized due to stress)
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Solar_Crimson
06/12/19 6:41:57 PM
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mehmeh1 posted...
The weirdest thing is, from what I've heard, masuda looked very nervous when saying that and like if he didn't want to do it, so I wonder who decided this, as it's quite obvious it wasn't masuda (he was right there during the gen 3 fiasco, and at least according to some guy in the swsh boards, the backlash was so hard he was hospitalized due to stress)

I mean, that's literally the worst news of the game and perhaps the entire series. I would be nervous as well if I had to break it to the viewers.

But they had to have known the backlash, especially since it invalidates the whole point of Bank (to always bring your old Pokemon with you; with this new direction, who knows when some of those Pokemon will even be available next?).
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Delirious_Beard
06/12/19 7:05:08 PM
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Bringit
06/12/19 7:30:38 PM
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mehmeh1 posted...
The weirdest thing is, from what I've heard, masuda looked very nervous when saying that and like if he didn't want to do it

This is definitely true, he was struggling to get it out. He built up to saying it like two times before actually saying it.
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CookieMarvin
06/12/19 7:40:26 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
CookieMarvin posted...
goddamn I did not realize how much pokemon fans hated gamefreak before today

Game Freak started losing their good will after X/Y launched. Gen 5 was the last time they truly put in serious effort in the games and packing them with content while also doing new things with the region and narrative.

I think youre selling oras short. and also I think V is dookie. but I really think that disdain is probably misplaced. theyve tried to do things recently! everyone just hated it.
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Rikiaz
06/12/19 8:00:25 PM
#73:


CookieMarvin posted...
Solar_Crimson posted...
CookieMarvin posted...
goddamn I did not realize how much pokemon fans hated gamefreak before today

Game Freak started losing their good will after X/Y launched. Gen 5 was the last time they truly put in serious effort in the games and packing them with content while also doing new things with the region and narrative.

I think youre selling oras short. and also I think V is dookie. but I really think that disdain is probably misplaced. theyve tried to do things recently! everyone just hated it.

Gen V is great though. Black/White 2 are the second best games in the series (After HG/SS)
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CookieMarvin
06/12/19 8:14:25 PM
#74:


Rikiaz posted...
CookieMarvin posted...
Solar_Crimson posted...
CookieMarvin posted...
goddamn I did not realize how much pokemon fans hated gamefreak before today

Game Freak started losing their good will after X/Y launched. Gen 5 was the last time they truly put in serious effort in the games and packing them with content while also doing new things with the region and narrative.

I think youre selling oras short. and also I think V is dookie. but I really think that disdain is probably misplaced. theyve tried to do things recently! everyone just hated it.

Gen V is great though. Black/White 2 are the second best games in the series (After HG/SS)


idk I really didnt enjoy them very much, personally. with a few exceptions, I dont really like gen v designs, and everything goes downhill when the pokemon stink. I loved the dynamic sprites, seasons and weather meta, but that was about it for me, outside of a few smaller things.
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HiddenRoar
06/12/19 8:22:46 PM
#75:


I'd rather have no new Pokemon if it meant development would have gone to programming all the old ones in.

Besides, the two new reveals are ugly. Fact.
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BLAKUboy
06/12/19 8:45:00 PM
#76:


Rikiaz posted...
Black/White 2 are the second best games in the series (After HG/SS)

Wrong on both counts.
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YellowSUV
06/12/19 8:47:48 PM
#77:


lmao @ "high quality animation". Gamefreak is a massively incompetent company. Remember that the early 3D Pokemon games that had actual animations (Stadium and Coliseum) were NOT made by Gamefreak.
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domranguay
06/12/19 8:56:16 PM
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I highly doubt they will stick to this policy when people get pissed off they cant get certain pokemon into the new games.

Perhaps you were not around for the Gen 3 fuck up with a lack of connection but it did not go over well and alienated a lot of old fans.

A more recent example would be Pokmon Mystery Dungeon: Gates to Infinity. There was backlash because a spin-off game didn't have every Pokmon, they had to know doing it in the main series would be worse.

Hopefully they'll at least add the rest in an update, but this is the same company that left the Battle Frontier out of ORAS because "everyone is very busy and young people have various means of entertainment. Using smartphones and other devices they can access a great number of games, so the time they dedicate to a single game is less than in the past."
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CookieMarvin
06/12/19 9:12:44 PM
#79:


YellowSUV posted...
lmao @ "high quality animation". Gamefreak is a massively incompetent company. Remember that the early 3D Pokemon games that had actual animations (Stadium and Coliseum) were NOT made by Gamefreak.

why are these people so angry at the pokemon company
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Solar_Crimson
06/13/19 6:56:03 AM
#80:


Again, per Serebii:
Some further details about Pokmon Sword & Shield were revealed in Famitsu. Within the interview with Masuda and Ohmori, it was confirmed that there is currently no decision to bring the existing Pokmon that can't be in Sword & Shield back into the game using patches, but those that don't will still have an active role in Pokmon HOME. It also stated that Mega Evolutions and Z-Moves will not appear in Sword & Shield.

Damn, even Mega Evolution and Z-Moves are gone.

They better at least keep regional variants.
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CM_Ponch
06/13/19 7:04:19 AM
#81:


https://i.imgtc.ws/VOeGujE.gifm
This is the quality animation they are talking about
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Solar_Crimson
06/13/19 8:13:07 AM
#82:


CM_Ponch posted...
https://i.imgtc.ws/VOeGujE.gifm
This is the quality animation they are talking about

Oh lord...
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PikachuMaxwell
06/13/19 8:16:25 AM
#83:


I don't mind the bad news that much, but at least I have a good excuse to quit the main Pokemon games now....
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gamepimp12
06/13/19 8:29:05 AM
#84:


The Pokmon restriction wouldnt be such a big deal if we knew what the fuck Pokmon home was exactly.

The decision was bad but how they announced it was even worse, like they havent even decided if they where going to patch them in later or not
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Rikiaz
06/13/19 10:01:43 AM
#85:


gamepimp12 posted...
The Pokmon restriction wouldnt be such a big deal if we knew what the fuck Pokmon home was exactly.

The decision was bad but how they announced it was even worse, like they havent even decided if they where going to patch them in later or not

Exactly. If you can use battle spot and such from Pokemon Home then this issue doesnt really matter to me but like you said we barely even know what it is.
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soulunison2
06/13/19 10:02:51 AM
#86:


Lmao go back to competitive smash (take a shower while youre at it) and let us casuals enjoy a game
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MARKINGRAM22
06/13/19 10:05:35 AM
#87:


I literally can't believe megas are gone as well.
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Solar_Crimson
06/13/19 10:06:54 AM
#88:


soulunison2 posted...
Lmao go back to competitive smash (take a shower while youre at it) and let us casuals enjoy a game

Casuals would want to bring their long-cherished Pokemon with them as well. And they may have a favorite Pokemon that's not in the Galar Pokedex.
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soulunison2
06/13/19 10:14:28 AM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
soulunison2 posted...
Lmao go back to competitive smash (take a shower while youre at it) and let us casuals enjoy a game

Casuals would want to being their long-cherished Pokemon with them as well. And they may have a favorite Pokemon that's not in the Galar Pokedex.


Idgaf corgi dog is my new love the point is the give the spotlight to newer Pokmon and supplement that with older Pokmon
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GiftedACIII
06/13/19 11:11:17 AM
#90:


soulunison2 posted...
Solar_Crimson posted...
soulunison2 posted...
Lmao go back to competitive smash (take a shower while youre at it) and let us casuals enjoy a game

Casuals would want to being their long-cherished Pokemon with them as well. And they may have a favorite Pokemon that's not in the Galar Pokedex.


Idgaf corgi dog is my new love the point is the give the spotlight to newer Pokmon and supplement that with older Pokmon


Thats a competitive mindset lol. Competitive players are the ones that adapt to the meta and use the best of whats available, not what they personally like. Casuals are the ones that stick with their favorites and thus would be more likely to get upset if its left out. Youre letting your fgc show while shitting on yourself.
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soulunison2
06/13/19 11:12:21 AM
#91:


GiftedACIII posted...
soulunison2 posted...
Solar_Crimson posted...
soulunison2 posted...
Lmao go back to competitive smash (take a shower while youre at it) and let us casuals enjoy a game

Casuals would want to being their long-cherished Pokemon with them as well. And they may have a favorite Pokemon that's not in the Galar Pokedex.


Idgaf corgi dog is my new love the point is the give the spotlight to newer Pokmon and supplement that with older Pokmon


Thats a competitive mindset lol. Competitive players are the ones that adapt to the meta and use whats available, not what they personally like. Casuals are the ones that stick with their favorites and thus would be more likely to get upset if its left out. Youre letting your fgc show while shitting on yourself.


Wut I literally shit on the fgc all the time
And havent thought of comp Pokmon since
Dppt

I just want electric corgi
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GiftedACIII
06/13/19 11:20:22 AM
#92:


soulunison2 posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
soulunison2 posted...
Solar_Crimson posted...
soulunison2 posted...
Lmao go back to competitive smash (take a shower while youre at it) and let us casuals enjoy a game

Casuals would want to being their long-cherished Pokemon with them as well. And they may have a favorite Pokemon that's not in the Galar Pokedex.


Idgaf corgi dog is my new love the point is the give the spotlight to newer Pokmon and supplement that with older Pokmon


Thats a competitive mindset lol. Competitive players are the ones that adapt to the meta and use whats available, not what they personally like. Casuals are the ones that stick with their favorites and thus would be more likely to get upset if its left out. Youre letting your fgc show while shitting on yourself.


Wut I literally shit on the fgc all the time
And havent thought of comp Pokmon since
Dppt

I just want electric corgi


Yeah, but you know a hell of a lot about the fgc and have in-depth knowledge of it. It could be why you hate them so much which is totally understandable lol. And yeah, this doesnt personally affect me much either. But I can see why people might be worried their favorites might be completely unobtainable.
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CookieMarvin
06/13/19 1:01:47 PM
#93:


GiftedACIII posted...
soulunison2 posted...
Solar_Crimson posted...
soulunison2 posted...
Lmao go back to competitive smash (take a shower while youre at it) and let us casuals enjoy a game

Casuals would want to being their long-cherished Pokemon with them as well. And they may have a favorite Pokemon that's not in the Galar Pokedex.


Idgaf corgi dog is my new love the point is the give the spotlight to newer Pokmon and supplement that with older Pokmon


Thats a competitive mindset lol. Competitive players are the ones that adapt to the meta and use the best of whats available, not what they personally like. Casuals are the ones that stick with their favorites and thus would be more likely to get upset if its left out. Youre letting your fgc show while shitting on yourself.


someones telling on themselves here, but I dont think its them lol
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