Poll of the Day > "Illegal immigrant" is now considered hate speech

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GrimCyclone
06/13/19 9:42:22 AM
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Is this true on GameFAQs too? If not it soon will be. Wow. You gotta hand it to them. Just make anything your opposed to hate speech and you don't have to even debate it. It's illegal!

Well played.

Eventually everything will be banned and only the purest individuals will be allowed to live in our society. Wow, that's just like that fake dystopian society that lived in "San Angeles" in 1993's Demolition Man! Fuck yeah!

I can't believe it is actually coming true! All my childhood dreams have suddenly erupted! Hey, that means Taco Bell is going to be the only franchise restaurant left! I guess I know where to invest my money! Ha! I'm going to be super rich in the future, wear an all-white garb and say, "Mellow greetings, citizen!" How exciting! Oh frabjous day!

Omg, would you listen to what these Democratic Party leaders from our ancient past said?
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Kyuubi4269
06/13/19 9:43:48 AM
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When you make everybody a villain, good never wins.
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GrimCyclone
06/13/19 9:57:04 AM
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When you make everybody a villain, good never wins.

Fuck off with your normal reply, Kyuubi. I don't want your milquetoast. I want your rage! Yaaas. Just yaaas!
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GrimCyclone
06/13/19 10:01:23 AM
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Zangulus posted...
Im smelling not all the facts.

It's a new YouTube Hate Speech policy effective June 15th. That's all. CNN did an article explaining how the term "illegal immigrant" is a slur. Nothing more to it.
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Caution999
06/13/19 10:26:08 AM
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Lol.

I feel bad for the people who make their living on Youtube at this point.
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pionear
06/13/19 10:32:12 AM
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Why?
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kind9
06/13/19 10:33:55 AM
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Somebody provide links please, thanks. I typed "youtube illegal immigrant policy" into youtube and google and nothing relevant came up.
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GrimCyclone
06/13/19 10:42:06 AM
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https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2801939?hl=en

My mistake. It wasn't June 15th. June 5th.

Also this:
https://www.cnn.com/2012/07/05/opinion/garcia-illegal-immigrants/index.html
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WhiskeyDisk
06/13/19 10:45:46 AM
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My guns aren't illegal. They're just undocumented.


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Lirishae
06/13/19 11:02:38 AM
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GrimCyclone posted...
Also this:
https://www.cnn.com/2012/07/05/opinion/garcia-illegal-immigrants/index.html


Did you see the "opinion" part? Or the fact that it linked to a dissenting opinion article also from CNN? Nope, you just wanted fuel to justify your narrative.

https://www.cnn.com/2012/07/06/opinion/navarrette-illegal-immigrant/index.html
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Krazy_Kirby
06/13/19 11:07:37 AM
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well if they didn't come here legally, then they came here illegally...
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Kyuubi4269
06/13/19 11:10:58 AM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
well if they didn't come here legally, then they came here illegally...

They usually come legally, the correct term is a "nation squatter".
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Johnny Eagle
06/13/19 11:11:24 AM
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GrimCyclone posted...
https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2801939?hl=en

My mistake. It wasn't June 15th. June 5th.

Also this:
https://www.cnn.com/2012/07/05/opinion/garcia-illegal-immigrants/index.html


Does that guy say what term we should use for such people? Or just that we shouldn't call them "illegal immigrants"?
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GanonsSpirit
06/13/19 11:16:52 AM
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GrimCyclone posted...
https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2801939?hl=en

That clearly states that hate speech against illegal immigrants isn't allowed, not that the term illegal immigrant is hate speech.
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kind9
06/13/19 11:19:06 AM
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So youtube added "immigration status" to their hate speech policy. Which can be taken to mean, don't talk about immigration at all, in any context, unless you're CNN or FOX or some other traditional news agency. Gotta keep youtube safe, don't ya know?
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Lirishae
06/13/19 11:21:06 AM
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Johnny Eagle posted...
Does that guy say what term we should use for such people? Or just that we shouldn't call them "illegal immigrants"?

Undocumented immigrants.
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GrimCyclone
06/13/19 11:23:21 AM
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GanonsSpirit posted...
GrimCyclone posted...
https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2801939?hl=en

That clearly states that hate speech against illegal immigrants isn't allowed, not that the term illegal immigrant is hate speech.

It's not up for dispute. If you refer to a person as an illegal immigrant in a pejorative way in a way to attack then then its considered hate speech.

The term by itself may or may not be allowed in the near future, but the labeling of someone as an illegal immigrant to impart status to them in a negative light, even if you don't intend it to be negative, can be considered hate speech by YouTube and your video will get removed.

IE
"All these illegal immigrants crashing our border are ruining the country."

That would be considered hate speech by youtube.
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Nade Duck
06/13/19 11:24:03 AM
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Lirishae posted...
Johnny Eagle posted...
Does that guy say what term we should use for such people? Or just that we shouldn't call them "illegal immigrants"?

Undocumented immigrants.

secret mexicans
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aDirtyShisno
06/13/19 11:25:33 AM
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GrimCyclone posted...
Zangulus posted...
Im smelling not all the facts.

It's a new YouTube Hate Speech policy effective June 15th. That's all. CNN did an article explaining how the term "illegal immigrant" is a slur. Nothing more to it.

Also, on top of this Carlos Maza claims that calling someone a Mexican is hate speech. Very offensive, that one is...
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WhiskeyDisk
06/13/19 11:28:15 AM
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Looks like Black Pigeon Speaks just got the axe too.
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Hop103
06/13/19 11:38:36 AM
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It's just a YT policy.
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kind9
06/13/19 11:40:23 AM
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aDirtyShisno posted...
GrimCyclone posted...
Zangulus posted...
Im smelling not all the facts.

It's a new YouTube Hate Speech policy effective June 15th. That's all. CNN did an article explaining how the term "illegal immigrant" is a slur. Nothing more to it.

Also, on top of this Carlos Maza claims that calling someone a Mexican is hate speech. Very offensive, that one is...

Isn't that what you call a citizen of Mexico? I can see why hispanic Americans would be offended by that. I wouldn't call it hate speech by itself though, a lot of people just don't know any better.
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GrimCyclone
06/13/19 11:40:25 AM
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aDirtyShisno
06/13/19 12:00:34 PM
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kind9 posted...
aDirtyShisno posted...
GrimCyclone posted...
Zangulus posted...
Im smelling not all the facts.

It's a new YouTube Hate Speech policy effective June 15th. That's all. CNN did an article explaining how the term "illegal immigrant" is a slur. Nothing more to it.

Also, on top of this Carlos Maza claims that calling someone a Mexican is hate speech. Very offensive, that one is...

Isn't that what you call a citizen of Mexico? I can see why hispanic Americans would be offended by that. I wouldn't call it hate speech by itself though, a lot of people just don't know any better.

He rants in all his videos about Steven Crowder that him being called a Mexican is hate speech and very offensive. At no point in time does he explain that he is actually Cuban, which other videos critiquing him have to remind the viewers for it to make any sense. The gross logic behind it would be obviously calling someone who is not Mexican a Mexican could be offensive but not correcting that person makes it impossible for him to know hes even making a mistake.

Ergo, according to Carlos Maza, its offensive to call anyone a Mexican because they might not be Mexican and take offense at it. Under that light, shouldnt we stop calling all black people African Americans because they might not from Africa or America...?
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Noop_Noop
06/13/19 12:11:46 PM
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aDirtyShisno posted...
Under that light, shouldnt we stop calling all black people African Americans because they might not from Africa or America...?


well yeah. they could be Haitian or Jamaican or a number of other things. ive always thought that was a pretty dumb thing to say
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aDirtyShisno
06/13/19 12:12:50 PM
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Noop_Noop posted...
aDirtyShisno posted...
Under that light, shouldnt we stop calling all black people African Americans because they might not from Africa or America...?


well yeah. they could be Haitian or Jamaican or a number of other things. ive always thought that was a pretty dumb thing to say

But should it be called hate speech to keep using it...?
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Kyuubi4269
06/13/19 12:17:28 PM
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aDirtyShisno posted...
Noop_Noop posted...
aDirtyShisno posted...
Under that light, shouldnt we stop calling all black people African Americans because they might not from Africa or America...?


well yeah. they could be Haitian or Jamaican or a number of other things. ive always thought that was a pretty dumb thing to say

But should it be called hate speech to keep using it...?

If it's used as an alternative to being called a dirty shisno, yes.
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joemodda
06/13/19 12:22:25 PM
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Oh wow, looks like BPS fid get purged. Sheesh
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HylianFox
06/13/19 12:34:19 PM
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When you start calling every immigrant "illegal" it kinda loses its meaning
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kangolcone
06/13/19 1:02:25 PM
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GrimCyclone posted...
GanonsSpirit posted...
GrimCyclone posted...
https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2801939?hl=en

That clearly states that hate speech against illegal immigrants isn't allowed, not that the term illegal immigrant is hate speech.

It's not up for dispute. If you refer to a person as an illegal immigrant in a pejorative way in a way to attack then then its considered hate speech.

The term by itself may or may not be allowed in the near future, but the labeling of someone as an illegal immigrant to impart status to them in a negative light, even if you don't intend it to be negative, can be considered hate speech by YouTube and your video will get removed.

IE
"All these illegal immigrants crashing our border are ruining the country."

That would be considered hate speech by youtube.


So youre saying if you disparage a large group of people, they classify it at hate speech?

Yeah, that sounds accurate.

All the other nonsense you post is conjecture.
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bulbinking
06/13/19 1:02:37 PM
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WhiskeyDisk posted...
My guns aren't illegal. They're just undocumented.



This is hilarious.

Seriously though how can it be a slur? An illegal immigrant is an immigrant who has immigrated to a country outside the bounds of the countries law for doing so in a legally recognized manner. How tf is that a slur when its a direct description of the state of the persons immigration status?

The english language is truly dying.
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Kyuubi4269
06/13/19 1:04:25 PM
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bulbinking posted...
Seriously though how can it be a slur?

It's just libel.
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bulbinking
06/13/19 1:06:44 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
bulbinking posted...
Seriously though how can it be a slur?

It's just libel.


Would it also be libel to refer to people as legal immigrants in the same light then? Or referring to somebody as not a legal immigrant?
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Kyuubi4269
06/13/19 1:07:29 PM
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Zangulus posted...
Wut? No it isnt. If theyre here illegally, that makes it the truth. Not libelous in any way.

The point is that you don't know so the claim would be found libelous in court. The rule isn't "saying illegal immigrant is always hateful", it's "calling a person an illegal immigrant because they're not white is hateful".
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PKMNsony
06/13/19 1:08:22 PM
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WhiskeyDisk posted...
My guns aren't illegal. They're just undocumented.


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Solid Sonic
06/13/19 1:10:48 PM
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TC is an illegal immigrant...from Reddit.
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Kyuubi4269
06/13/19 1:13:12 PM
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Zangulus posted...
Not necessarily. Libel also requires that there is a loss incurred by the statements.

Emotional damages, literally used to be offensive.
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The_tall_midget
06/13/19 1:20:02 PM
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What do you expect when you allow the regressives/sjw's to roam free and stupid?
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Kyuubi4269
06/13/19 1:39:03 PM
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Zangulus posted...
Emotional damages require you to have proof, which is exceptionally hard to do. Just saying they hurt my feelings, or I was stopped by police and released does not rise to libel.

It's easy to say "They questioned my legality in a public space damaging my reputation to potential employers scouring my internet presence."
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Zareth
06/13/19 1:44:48 PM
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aDirtyShisno posted...
Also, on top of this Carlos Maza claims that calling someone a Mexican is hate speech. Very offensive, that one is...

The proper term is "person of Mexico."
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Kyuubi4269
06/13/19 2:15:32 PM
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Zangulus posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
Zangulus posted...
Emotional damages require you to have proof, which is exceptionally hard to do. Just saying they hurt my feelings, or I was stopped by police and released does not rise to libel.

It's easy to say "They questioned my legality in a public space damaging my reputation to potential employers scouring my internet presence."


No. It isnt. You have to prove you lost employment opportunites. It really isnt that easy to win a libel or slander case. Simply saying something negative is not enough. You need actual, tangible proof of a loss.


English law allows actions for libel to be brought in the High Court for any published statements which are alleged to defame a named or identifiable individual(s) (under English law companies are legal persons, and may bring suit for defamation) in a manner which causes them loss in their trade or profession, or causes a reasonable person to think worse of him, her or them.

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ASlaveObeys
06/13/19 2:15:46 PM
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It's not hate speech that's dumb. It is used to dehumanize people and make committing acts that typical people find unfair seem okay, though.

I hate hot button terms like this, it stops people from being able to think straight.
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bulbinking
06/13/19 2:20:34 PM
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ASlaveObeys posted...
It's not hate speech that's dumb. It is used to dehumanize people and make committing acts that typical people find unfair seem okay, though.

I hate hot button terms like this, it stops people from being able to think straight.


So does that mean criminal is a slur now?
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SunWuKung420
06/13/19 2:25:40 PM
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It's definitely a slur when racists call anyone with a skin tone slightly more brown than bleached white rice an illegal immigrant.
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