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TomNook20
06/22/19 10:27:45 AM
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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/21/us/politics/trump-iran-strike.html

He heard from his generals and his diplomats. Lawmakers weighed in and so did his advisers. But among the voices that rang powerfully for President Trump was that of one of his favorite Fox News hosts: Tucker Carlson.

While national security advisers were urging a military strike against Iran, Mr. Carlson in recent days had told Mr. Trump that responding to Tehrans provocations with force was crazy. The hawks did not have the presidents best interests at heart, he said. And if Mr. Trump got into a war with Iran, he could kiss his chances of re-election goodbye.

However much weight that advice may or may not have had, the sentiments certainly reinforced the doubts that Mr. Trump himself harbored as he navigated his way through one of the most consequential foreign policy decisions of his presidency. By his own account, the president called off the cocked & loaded strike on Thursday night with only 10 minutes to spare to avoid the estimated deaths of as many as 150 people.

The concerns that Mr. Trump heard from Mr. Carlson reflected that part of the presidential id that has always hesitated at pulling the trigger. Belligerent and confrontational as he is in his public persona, Mr. Trump has at times pulled back from the use of force, convinced that America has wasted too many lives and too much money in pointless Middle East wars and wary of repeating what he considers the mistakes of his predecessors.

As Mr. Carlson and other skeptics have argued, a strike against Iran could easily spiral into a full-fledged war without easy victory. That, Mr. Trump was told, was everything he ran against. And so the president struggled into the early evening, committed to taking action to demonstrate resolve right up until the moment he decided against it and called off the warplanes and missile launchers.


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Frogles
06/22/19 10:29:33 AM
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TomNook20 posted...
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thats the look of a true american hero. you did it tucker.
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MrMallard
06/22/19 10:31:23 AM
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I don't even know what to think any more. Like there's been so much animosity towards Iran, especially since his all-caps tirade against Iran's leader promising a scorched-earth response to their antagonism, but I sure am glad 150 innocent people haven't been nuked off the map. I have no idea what the fuck is even going on any more. Christ.
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AlisLandale
06/22/19 10:33:23 AM
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If this is true, and Tucker Carlson really is the main reason we didnt bomb a foreign country over a drone, then thats actually pretty great >_>
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Damn_Underscore
06/22/19 10:33:49 AM
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I feel like if we had a politician as president we would be at war now.

I mean the President shouldn't be taking advice from a TV host, but that actually saved us here...
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Phantom_Nook
06/22/19 10:33:56 AM
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The president needs Fox News to think?
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Pukelid
06/22/19 10:37:28 AM
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For godsake can he have an original thought
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tremain07
06/22/19 10:42:03 AM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
I feel like if we had a politician as president we would be at war now.

Why? This a problem trump caused by not only ripping up a deal because fuck obama, he hired a bunch of war loving assholes like Bolton to keep pushing him towards this and him, being an idiot went and listened to them, they were this fucking close to doing it when trump got cold feet at the last minute, this a problem trump himself created because he is a fool, an actual politician would never had let it get to this and now we live at the whims of a moron who needs to be coddled by rating hungry scumbags nearly every day to tell him what he wants to hear.
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TomNook20
06/22/19 10:46:32 AM
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tremain07 posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
I feel like if we had a politician as president we would be at war now.

Why? This a problem trump caused by not only ripping up a deal because fuck obama, he hired a bunch of war loving assholes like Bolton to keep pushing him towards this and him, being an idiot went and listened to them, they were this fucking close to doing it when trump got cold feet at the last minute, this a problem trump himself created because he is a fool, an actual politician would never had let it get to this and now we live at the whims of a moron who needs to be coddled by rating hungry scumbags nearly every day to tell him what he wants to hear.

I'm not sure paying pizzo to a country far less powerful than you is a recipe for success.
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Damn_Underscore
06/22/19 10:47:32 AM
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tremain07 posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
I feel like if we had a politician as president we would be at war now.

Why?


Because a politician would have listened to the national security advisers.
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CruelBuffalo
06/22/19 10:51:22 AM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
tremain07 posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
I feel like if we had a politician as president we would be at war now.

Why?


Because a politician would have listened to the national security advisers.

The president is the person who pics his advisors....so a person would need to not pick shitty advisors
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Damn_Underscore
06/22/19 11:01:37 AM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
tremain07 posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
I feel like if we had a politician as president we would be at war now.

Why?


Because a politician would have listened to the national security advisers.

The president is the person who pics his advisors....so a person would need to not pick shitty advisors


This country has been greatly involved in Wars in the Middle East and surrounding countries since 9/11. And it would still be if Kerry, McCain, Romney, or Hillary was president. If it wasn't Iran, it would be someone else.
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CruelBuffalo
06/22/19 11:02:19 AM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
tremain07 posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
I feel like if we had a politician as president we would be at war now.

Why?


Because a politician would have listened to the national security advisers.

The president is the person who pics his advisors....so a person would need to not pick shitty advisors


This country has been greatly involved in Wars in the Middle East and surrounding countries since 9/11. And it would still be if Kerry, McCain, Romney, or Hillary was president. If it wasn't Iran, it would be someone else.


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ultimate reaver
06/22/19 11:05:47 AM
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I think we should be glad we have Trump because he didnt listen to the hawks he gave jobs in the first place is maybe the weirdest take Ive ever seen on CE
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Sonicblack35
06/22/19 11:06:39 AM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
tremain07 posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
I feel like if we had a politician as president we would be at war now.

Why?


Because a politician would have listened to the national security advisers.

The president is the person who pics his advisors....so a person would need to not pick shitty advisors


This country has been greatly involved in Wars in the Middle East and surrounding countries since 9/11. And it would still be if Kerry, McCain, Romney, or Hillary was president. If it wasn't Iran, it would be someone else.

[citation needed]
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Smashingpmkns
06/22/19 11:07:02 AM
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This is fucking terrifying lol
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Antifar
06/22/19 11:08:25 AM
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*loads gun, points it at you, places finger on the trigger*

"You're welcome for me not shooting you."
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TheRealDill2000
06/22/19 11:09:39 AM
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I think Tucker had ulterior motives here. I have seen him praising Elizabeth Warren lately.
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Damn_Underscore
06/22/19 11:31:04 AM
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Sonicblack35 posted...
[citation needed]


CruelBuffalo posted...


I'm speculating just like he did, why am I the one being questioned and insulted?

ultimate reaver posted...
I think we should be glad we have Trump because he didnt listen to the hawks he gave jobs in the first place is maybe the weirdest take Ive ever seen on CE


That's not what I said. You're trying to portray that I'm a Trump supporter when I'm not.

What you posted is dishonest.
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Unit7
06/22/19 11:48:42 AM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
I feel like if we had a politician as president we would be at war now.

I mean the President shouldn't be taking advice from a TV host, but that actually saved us here...


Except if we had a politician they'd have known killing upwards of 150 over a drone, would be bad optics.

There is no way to actually justify a strike of that magnitude because of a downed drone.

There is also Israel to consider. Trump didn't consider it. How could he?

Unless Iran backs down after the strike, Israel would be the very first target they'd go after.

Because if America and Iran go to war, Israel is very much joining in.

That region in the Middle East would be chaos.

It would be a massive gamble on Iran's reaction to 150 dead Iranians.

So...

No. It would never have gotten as far as it did. We should be terrified that it did.
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Damn_Underscore
06/22/19 11:50:56 AM
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Unit7 posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
I feel like if we had a politician as president we would be at war now.

I mean the President shouldn't be taking advice from a TV host, but that actually saved us here...


Except if we had a politician they'd have known killing upwards of 150 over a drone, would be bad optics.

There is no way to actually justify a strike of that magnitude because of a downed drone.

There is also Israel to consider. Trump didn't consider it. How could he?

Unless Iran backs down after the strike, Israel would be the very first target they'd go after.

Because if America and Iran go to war, Israel is very much joining in.

That region in the Middle East would be chaos.

It would be a massive gamble on Iran's reaction to 150 dead Iranians.

So...

No. It would never have gotten as far as it did. We should be terrified that it did.


that's a fair argument.
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metralo
06/22/19 11:51:01 AM
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the fact that people are defending trump for this is absolutely fucking mind boggling

every day you guys get more and more fucking stupid
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TomNook20
06/22/19 2:54:23 PM
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