Current Events > People that complain about a lack of original movies are so annoying :/

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Like, nevermind that Hollywood is about as original as it has ever been, the simple fact is that those franchises fund the smaller independent projects, which are generally much more of a risk than blockbusters.

I got an idea for an original movie.

So there's this dad, right. It turns out, his daughter gets a rare illness and the only treatment is the bone of an extremely rare dolphin species in Florida. Killing them is illegal, but the dad will stop at nothing to hunt one down, even if it means going against the government, to save his daughter.

I call it Dolphin Fighter.
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Benify posted...

I got an idea for an original movie.

So there's this dad, right. It turns out, his daughter gets a rare illness and the only treatment is the bone of an extremely rare dolphin species in Florida. Killing them is illegal, but the dad will stop at nothing to hunt one down, even if it means going against the government, to save his daughter.

I call it Dolphin Fighter.

The twist is her daughter is a dolphin rights advocate

So there's this mom, right? And she has a daughter. The dad is dead for reasons. The daughter makes a wish on her birthday, and the next morning, the mom and daughter swap bodies! Crazy, right?
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bluezero posted...

So there's this mom, right? And she has a daughter. The dad is dead for reasons. The daughter makes a wish on her birthday, and the next morning, the mom and daughter swap bodies! Crazy, right?

Are there shenanigans?

It's radical but how about this. The idea was to bring together a group of remarkable people, see if they could become something more. See if they could work together when we needed them to to fight the battles we never could.

We'll call it the Defenders.
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OctilIery posted...

nevermind that Hollywood is about as original as it has ever been,

By what metrics. I know this was a while ago, but i remember Interstellar being like the only top 10 earning movie of 2014 that was an original production
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i get that movies have been derivative of previous movies since movies became a thing. that's just how art works -- it builds upon itself.

but if you examine the biggest box office hits over the last ~5 years (at least), the vast majority of them are sequels or remakes. this is a new trend. and i dont really like it.
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So there's this guy named Larry Cloudrunner who meets some robot things called bots which have the plans the the Kill Sphere, a big weapon being made by the evil Galaxy Kingdom, and he will have to learn to master The Power from Opie Want A Ropey in order to defeat it.
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West Virginia Smith and the Thieves of the Missing Box
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Giant_Aspirin posted...

i get that movies have been derivative of previous movies since movies became a thing. that's just how art works -- it builds upon itself.

but if you examine the biggest box office hits over the last ~5 years (at least), the vast majority of them are sequels or remakes. this is a new trend. and i dont really like it.

The only thing new about it is there are few adaptations among the list - the biggest earners have usually been adapted from something, and are rarely original stories.

Drpooplol posted...

OctilIery posted...

nevermind that Hollywood is about as original as it has ever been,

By what metrics. I know this was a while ago, but i remember Interstellar being like the only top 10 earning movie of 2014 that was an original production

It's almost like there are a massive amount of movies outside the top 10 each year.

But the biggest movies have the most marketing and more accessible. I don't really have the time to do tons research into smaller projects. @Giant_Aspirin and i have valid complaints. Also do you have any metrics to back up your claim
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One little funny thing I've occasionally noted is that top-grossing movies from a few dedaces ago (and from the 50s and 60s as well) are pretty much forgotten today.
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Also, @zithers you can do your thing without welching in here
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OctilIery posted...

Benify posted...

I got an idea for an original movie.

So there's this dad, right. It turns out, his daughter gets a rare illness and the only treatment is the bone of an extremely rare dolphin species in Florida. Killing them is illegal, but the dad will stop at nothing to hunt one down, even if it means going against the government, to save his daughter.

I call it Dolphin Fighter.

The twist is her daughter is a dolphin rights advocate

I don't know if you guys are being sarcastic but this is a rather nice idea for a movie, maybe Lifetime could do one.
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Benify posted...

I got an idea for an original movie.

So there's this dad, right. It turns out, his daughter gets a rare illness and the only treatment is the bone of an extremely rare dolphin species in Florida. Killing them is illegal, but the dad will stop at nothing to hunt one down, even if it means going against the government, to save his daughter.

I call it Dolphin Fighter.

His daughter gets bit by a gamma radiated dolphin. And that transfers super powers for some reason.
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Drpooplol posted...

Also, @zithers you can do your thing without welching in here

Will try to respond to this tonight
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@OctilIery posted...

Like, nevermind that Hollywood is about as original as it has ever been, the simple fact is that those franchises fund the smaller independent projects, which are generally much more of a risk than blockbusters.

LMAO!!!!

This dude thinks trickle down economics works for movies/art! No studio has ever financed a small indie project because their dumb sequel/spinoff/superhero movie did well at the box office. Laughable.

Hollywood is at its absolute rock bottom in terms of filmmaking. Movies don't even follow the basic fundamentals of visual storytelling and/or functional drama. They prefer momentum-killing expository scenes, one-note characters, and plastic CGI nonsense, all filmed on hideous digital cameras.

Let's not forget that they trained audiences to like crap like this though. Audiences sneer at "boring dramas" and "Oscar bait" (whatever that is) and would rather watch those at home, if at all. Guess what? The movies make less or no movie when you do that! Only going to the theater for soulless corporate franchise tentpole garbage that you were tricked into seeing because of $100m advertising budgets is going to crush "small" movies and eradicate them from movie theaters and major streaming services by the time we're dead.

Of course, there are a handful of indie and foreign movies that are great every year but Hollywood is bottoming out in terms of originality and talent. There is literally no debating this if you have actually watched movies from all countries, time periods, genres, styles, budgets, etc.

Thank you for coming to my TED talk and good night @Drpooplol
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Zithers posted...

This dude thinks trickle down economics works for movies/art! No studio has ever financed a small indie project because their dumb sequel/spinoff/superhero movie did well at the box office. Laughable.

It's literally been explicitly done in many situations. Directors, for instance, will agree to big projects to secure funding for smaller passion projects. This has been done several times. But the greater meaning was that without those big successes, they don't have the money for smaller indie projects.

Not even going to respond to the rest because you sound like an absolute caricature of the worst elitist, gatekeeping movie critics.

Drpooplol posted...

But the biggest movies have the most marketing and more accessible. I don't really have the time to do tons research into smaller projects. @Giant_Aspirin and i have valid complaints.

"I'm not willing to spend effort" isn't really a valid complaint when the effort is as minimal as it has ever been to look up reviews and responses to movies. At this point you're just an extra step from "stop liking what I don't like".

Cop gets vacation, gets in a plane turns out someone has rigged the plane so that if it drops a certain altitude or lands it will blow up the only way to stop it is if they give in to his demands of $1 million. We can call it Speed 3 to make prequels about a boat and a bus.
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Zithers posted...

@OctilIery posted...

Like, nevermind that Hollywood is about as original as it has ever been, the simple fact is that those franchises fund the smaller independent projects, which are generally much more of a risk than blockbusters.

LMAO!!!!

This dude thinks trickle down economics works for movies/art! No studio has ever financed a small indie project because their dumb sequel/spinoff/superhero movie did well at the box office. Laughable.

Hollywood is at its absolute rock bottom in terms of filmmaking. Movies don't even follow the basic fundamentals of visual storytelling and/or functional drama. They prefer momentum-killing expository scenes, one-note characters, and plastic CGI nonsense, all filmed on hideous digital cameras.

Let's not forget that they trained audiences to like crap like this though. Audiences sneer at "boring dramas" and "Oscar bait" (whatever that is) and would rather watch those at home, if at all. Guess what? The movies make less or no movie when you do that! Only going to the theater for soulless corporate franchise tentpole garbage that you were tricked into seeing because of $100m advertising budgets is going to crush "small" movies and eradicate them from movie theaters and major streaming services by the time we're dead.

Of course, there are a handful of indie and foreign movies that are great every year but Hollywood is bottoming out in terms of originality and talent. There is literally no debating this if you have actually watched movies from all countries, time periods, genres, styles, budgets, etc.

Thank you for coming to my TED talk and good night @Drpooplol

If I understand that correctly, basically youre saying Hollywood needs to greenlight Dolphin Fighter?

OctilIery posted...

Zithers posted...

This dude thinks trickle down economics works for movies/art! No studio has ever financed a small indie project because their dumb sequel/spinoff/superhero movie did well at the box office. Laughable.

It's literally been explicitly done in many situations. Directors, for instance, will agree to big projects to secure funding for smaller passion projects. This has been done several times. But the greater meaning was that without those big successes, they don't have the money for smaller indie projects.

Not even going to respond to the rest because you sound like an absolute caricature of the worst elitist, gatekeeping movie critics.

I would love to know which directors have done that. Preferably good, original filmmakers, since you say that original filmmaking is so rampant today (lol!).

Also I can't gatekeep even if I wanted to. It has literally never been easier to become a cinephile if you want to. Between Turner Classic Movies, YouTube, pirating, physical media, the Criterion Channel, Prime, etc there are so many avenues to become interested in world/indie/classic movies. But nobody does, lol! Culture is dying! Bow down to your conglomerate overlords and watch their homogenized, create-by-committee gutter filth! Lose all curiosity! Stan nostalgia-based remakes! Devour whatever they shovel into your mouth! Lmao!
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Dude, take it down a few notches.
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No. Cinema is dying thanks to people like TC. You are ripping away something I care about and the more you tell me to shut up the louder I will be a la dril.
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