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Lebronwon 06/28/19 4:19:38 PM #1: |
https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/high-school-athletes-file-complaint-over-transgender-policy-n1019306
Three Connecticut girls who have run high school track have filed a federal discrimination complaint saying a statewide policy on transgender athletes has cost them top finishes in races and possibly college scholarships. The complaint filed Monday with the U.S. Education Department's Office for Civil Rights was submitted by the conservative Christian law firm Alliance Defending Freedom on behalf of the girls, who are asking for an investigation of the policy and orders that would make competitions fair. The complaint also cites the federal Title IX rules aimed at equal rights in sports for female athletes. "Girls deserve to compete on a level playing field," said Christiana Holcomb, legal counsel for Alliance Defending Freedom. "Women fought long and hard to earn the equal athletic opportunities that Title IX provides. Allowing boys to compete in girls' sports reverses nearly 50 years of advances for women under this law. We shouldn't force these young women to be spectators in their own sports." The Connecticut Interscholastic Athletic Conference, which governs high school sports in the state, says its policy follows a state anti-discrimination law requiring students to be treated in school according to the gender with which they identify. That means that athletes can compete according to their expressed gender identity as opposed to their sex assigned at birth. --- Not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 06/28/19 4:20:04 PM #2: |
I hope they win.
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TalesofMedz 06/28/19 4:21:33 PM #3: |
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Skye Reynolds 06/28/19 4:23:53 PM #4: |
I disagree with the anti-trans rhetoric, but...
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Behaviorism 06/28/19 4:25:12 PM #5: |
I agree with the girls, but if they are saying they fought for equality, then the equal thing to do would be to race against boys as well
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Skye Reynolds 06/28/19 4:25:22 PM #6: |
They'll probably lose because the advocate for cis-female athletes called transgirls "boys."
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darkjedilink 06/28/19 4:27:28 PM #7: |
Behaviorism posted...
I agree with the girls, but if they are saying they fought for equality, then the equal thing to do would be to race against boys as well wut --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Behaviorism 06/28/19 4:28:35 PM #8: |
darkjedilink posted...
Behaviorism posted...I agree with the girls, but if they are saying they fought for equality, then the equal thing to do would be to race against boys as well I'm being a jackass. I was saying if the girls are saying they are equal to the boys, then should should be racing against everyone, not just girls. --- What time is it? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 06/28/19 4:29:07 PM #9: |
Behaviorism posted...
darkjedilink posted...Behaviorism posted...I agree with the girls, but if they are saying they fought for equality, then the equal thing to do would be to race against boys as well Except that's not what the girls are saying... --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Skye Reynolds 06/28/19 4:30:30 PM #10: |
Trans girls are girls, but the dividing line in sports should be based on biology. If you were genetically engineered to have greater muscle mass, the competition is unfair. And competition is what it's about.
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darkjedilink 06/28/19 4:31:03 PM #11: |
Skye Reynolds posted...
Trans girls are girls Nope. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeeak4444 06/28/19 4:48:23 PM #12: |
Skye Reynolds posted...
Trans girls are girls, but the dividing line in sports should be based on biology. If you were genetically engineered to have greater muscle mass, the competition is unfair. And competition is what it's about. No, but I'd love to see a middleweight knock out a heavyweight. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HBOSS 06/28/19 4:52:23 PM #13: |
hmm, some transgenders in competition even take drugs to reduce the advantages they have in a sport. i cant believe athletes do that just to participate tbh the thing is at least 1 transgender won the entire sports event even with whatever drug was taken. imagine whats going through the competition like what is there to do when that athlete has the best of both genders biologically speaking?
i dunno much about transgenders but i do know what theyre saying. i see the fear of losing the integrity of the sport. transphobia perhaps... you see, transgenders in sports was fine when they werent winning. like sports competition was probably the furthest on the minds on transgenders. times changed as society and science progressed towards transgender and sex reassignment. i can see how the complaint will point towards science to support the unfairness of expressed gender identity vs biological sex of the athlete. its gonna be interesting what ruling is concluded and if there are others who will file complaints. former and current sportswomen have gone out and vehemently gone after transgenders in all women sports already. --- You don't stop playing because you grow old, You grow old because you stop playing ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pukelid 06/28/19 4:56:06 PM #14: |
They should have been better athletes. What about all the cis girls who aren't losing to trans girls?
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darkjedilink 06/28/19 4:56:40 PM #15: |
Pukelid posted...
They should have been better athletes. What about all the cis girls who aren't losing to trans girls? Show me sporting events where trans girls lost to cis girls. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BLAKUboy 06/28/19 4:59:16 PM #17: |
Pukelid posted...
They should have been better athletes. What about all the cis girls who aren't losing to trans girls? They're not useful to the narrative so they don't matter. --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera https://signavatar.com/26999_s.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pukelid 06/28/19 4:59:55 PM #18: |
BLAKUboy posted...
Pukelid posted...They should have been better athletes. What about all the cis girls who aren't losing to trans girls? Ahhh got ya --- Hairistotle ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 06/28/19 5:01:52 PM #19: |
BLAKUboy posted...
Pukelid posted...They should have been better athletes. What about all the cis girls who aren't losing to trans girls? darkjedilink posted... Show me sporting events where trans girls lost to cis girls. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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nemu 06/28/19 5:06:03 PM #20: |
When it comes to competitive, ranked sports, transpeople simply should not be able to compete under any circumstance. It's not like every transwoman is a tank of a human who is going to shatter every record, but such people do exist. Even without taking those people into account, I'm sure you could calculate some inherent percentage range in which statistically transwomen will exceed women. There's just no way to keep it completely fair. I'm all for treating transwomen as women without needing to bring up the "trans" part in most scenarios, but competitive sports is not one of those scenarios.
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nativengine 06/28/19 5:13:30 PM #21: |
TalesofMedz posted...
darkjedilink posted...I hope they win. --- Jive ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tryhaptaward 06/28/19 5:19:35 PM #22: |
nemu posted...
I'm sure you could calculate some inherent percentage range in which statistically women will exceed women. what ... Copied to Clipboard!
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nemu 06/28/19 5:22:04 PM #23: |
Tryhaptaward posted...
nemu posted...I'm sure you could calculate some inherent percentage range in which statistically women will exceed women. The "real woman" argument is stupid. Transwomen are transwomen. It's fine as a society to accept personal gender identity, but there are certain areas in which we need to be realistic about their status as transwomen. You cannot simply slot them into literally every single space in which women exist without there being issues. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DocileOrangeCup 06/28/19 5:32:31 PM #24: |
Pukelid posted...
They should have been better athletes. What about all the cis girls who aren't losing to trans girls? Didn't the trans girls come in 1st and 2nd consistently in this case --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sexypwnstar 06/28/19 5:35:28 PM #25: |
DocileOrangeCup posted...
Pukelid posted...They should have been better athletes. What about all the cis girls who aren't losing to trans girls? It really is amazing and inspirational how they beat the statistical odds. First, being of the minute % to be trans, and then to win these competitions. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativerealms 06/28/19 5:47:09 PM #26: |
Skye Reynolds posted...
Trans girls are girls, but the dividing line in sports should be based on biology. If you were genetically engineered to have greater muscle mass, the competition is unfair. And competition is what it's about. I agree. However there is this problem should trans girls and boys be kept from sports all together as they really can't compete with their birth asigned sex ether. Not with the hormones they take to transition. Is it fair to ban them from sports all together? --- Feathered dinosaurs. I love feathered dinosaurs. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 06/28/19 6:07:00 PM #27: |
creativerealms posted...
Skye Reynolds posted...Trans girls are girls, but the dividing line in sports should be based on biology. If you were genetically engineered to have greater muscle mass, the competition is unfair. And competition is what it's about. How about a trans league? Why isn't that an option? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealthRock 06/28/19 6:11:30 PM #28: |
Good. More women need to speak up
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Skye Reynolds 06/28/19 6:12:11 PM #29: |
creativerealms posted...
Skye Reynolds posted...Trans girls are girls, but the dividing line in sports should be based on biology. If you were genetically engineered to have greater muscle mass, the competition is unfair. And competition is what it's about. If we can't be fair to all, should we be unfair to few or to many? It's not an easy thing to deal with. People who were born into the wrong bodies and who have undergone surgery to correct it are to be furthermore denied the right to compete or else the vast majority of women are to be placed at an extreme disadvantage in athletic competition. I could potentially see this one going all the way to the Supreme Court. And whatever the outcome, it's going to be bad for a lot of people. The only fair option would be if there were enough trans athletes for them to have their own league or leagues. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HBOSS 06/28/19 6:12:22 PM #30: |
male [ ] female [ ] transgender [ ] thats the problem i think... --- You don't stop playing because you grow old, You grow old because you stop playing ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hanky_Bannister 06/28/19 6:13:04 PM #31: |
darkjedilink posted...
Behaviorism posted...darkjedilink posted...Behaviorism posted...I agree with the girls, but if they are saying they fought for equality, then the equal thing to do would be to race against boys as well gand he said he was joking --- "3rd Best Whiskey in Northern Burma" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvjOu4EzjYg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingStopMaster 06/28/19 6:14:59 PM #33: |
If I were an athlete I wouldnt be too happy with this either.
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iPhone_7 06/28/19 6:20:52 PM #34: |
Its 2019 and were still segregating sports based on gender.
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Hanky_Bannister 06/28/19 6:24:01 PM #35: |
iPhone_7 posted...
Its 2019 and were still segregating sports based on gender. thank god --- "3rd Best Whiskey in Northern Burma" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvjOu4EzjYg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 06/28/19 6:24:15 PM #36: |
HBOSS posted...
I literally don't see the problem. Like, I'm not trolling, or trying to be a jackass. I literally don't see why that is a problem. The fact is, transgendered people literally aren't the gender they pretend to be. The only reason they're being sued right now by actual women is because society decided we should all pretend with them. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TalesofMedz 06/28/19 6:27:03 PM #37: |
StealthRock posted...
Good. More women need to speak up ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PleaseClap 06/28/19 6:27:06 PM #38: |
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darkjedilink 06/28/19 6:28:06 PM #39: |
PleaseClap posted...
Geez, tell us how you really feel DJL Am I incorrect somewhere? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eggcorn 06/28/19 6:28:34 PM #40: |
Pukelid posted...
They should have been better athletes. What about all the cis girls who aren't losing to trans girls? which ones --- Warning: This post may contain triggering or distressing content. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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omega cookie 06/28/19 6:29:36 PM #41: |
Good. Hope they win. Maybe we can parlay this into an all out deathmatch between the militant feminists and the 72-gender-otherkin-everythings-offensive tumblr freaks.
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PleaseClap 06/28/19 6:31:26 PM #42: |
If I didn't know better, I would think that some of you guys really don't like trans people.
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darkjedilink 06/28/19 6:32:54 PM #43: |
PleaseClap posted...
If I didn't know better, I would think that some of you guys really don't like trans people. Am I incorrect somewhere? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PleaseClap 06/28/19 6:33:07 PM #44: |
darkjedilink posted...
PleaseClap posted...If I didn't know better, I would think that some of you guys really don't like trans people. Yeah --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 06/28/19 6:33:26 PM #45: |
PleaseClap posted...
darkjedilink posted...PleaseClap posted...If I didn't know better, I would think that some of you guys really don't like trans people. What part? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Weezy_Tha_Don 06/28/19 6:34:07 PM #46: |
@gunplagirl
yo whats your take on this oh lol, never mind --- https://imgur.com/hwZyGuA - courtesy of the homie United_World I speak my mind, cause biting my tongue hurts. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PleaseClap 06/28/19 6:34:08 PM #47: |
darkjedilink posted...
PleaseClap posted...darkjedilink posted...PleaseClap posted...If I didn't know better, I would think that some of you guys really don't like trans people. Well, trans women are women, so that part --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 06/28/19 6:34:39 PM #48: |
PleaseClap posted...
darkjedilink posted...PleaseClap posted...darkjedilink posted...PleaseClap posted...If I didn't know better, I would think that some of you guys really don't like trans people. Literally nope. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Malfunction 06/28/19 6:35:26 PM #49: |
omega cookie posted...
Good. Hope they win. Maybe we can parlay this into an all out deathmatch between the militant feminists and the 72-gender-otherkin-everythings-offensive tumblr freaks. extremely normal post which will go unpunished ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PleaseClap 06/28/19 6:35:48 PM #50: |
So, do you want to share you thoughts about transgender people with the rest of the class or...
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