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TalesofMedz
07/07/19 9:27:57 PM
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An upcoming Detroit music festival that originally charged white people double the admission that it charged people of color has changed its pricing structure.

The festival, Afrofuture Fest, initially charged people of color $20 and non-POC $40, according to the ticketing details on its Eventbrite page early Sunday. Now all tickets will be $20.


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/07/us/afrofuture-fest-tiny-jag.html
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Hop103
07/07/19 9:29:55 PM
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Good, it was mega racist and unacceptable.
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Johnny_Nutcase
07/07/19 9:30:10 PM
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The white man just can't get a break...
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Smashingpmkns
07/07/19 9:36:03 PM
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Pretty dumb unless that extra $20 went to charity or some shit. Even then, pretty dumb. Gives people a reason to cry about nothing.
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Ryven
07/07/19 9:38:27 PM
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Considering Detroit has a bad history of racism, the people behind that festival are pretty fucking ignorant.
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Mister_Sister
07/07/19 9:38:45 PM
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DarkRoast
07/07/19 9:41:11 PM
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I suspect that would have some trouble with legal challenges, but really the bigger issue is that it's just kind of a mean thing to do.
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chrono625
07/07/19 10:19:59 PM
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How do we end racism?

With racism.
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MabusIncarnate
07/07/19 10:24:23 PM
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Did they honestly think that it would go over well to begin with? It's blatant racism. If you want to send a message and create change, you don't counter racism with racism. You put yourself above it and send a message with a better example.
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LastTomorrow
07/07/19 10:28:45 PM
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Yes, let's treat them like they treat us. That will show em.
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ModLogic
07/07/19 11:31:39 PM
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not surprisingly. the usual suspects no where to be seen condemning this kind of racism.
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Skye Reynolds
07/07/19 11:48:17 PM
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chrono625 posted...
How do we end racism?

With racism.


No, we fight racism by changing the definition of racism to say that only white people can be racist. Then people can be bigoted toward them without it being racism.
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DifferentialEquation
07/07/19 11:59:47 PM
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The decision to change course came after threats and harassment, said Adrienne Ayers, who goes by Numi and is the founder and co-director of Afrofuture Youth. She said that after right-wing websites highlighted the pricing, people called and harassed the owner of the venue, and sent messages to her co-directors family.


Yep, it's the fault of right wing websites, such as various subreddits and the Twitter feed of one of the musicians who pulled out because of this, for bringing their racially discriminatory pricing model to the public's attention. It's not the fault of the organizers for trying to charge separate prices based on race.
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Annihilated
07/08/19 12:00:21 AM
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How would a white person possibly feel safe attending a festival that clearly hates them (they still defend their racism even after the decision) let alone be willing to pay more for the opportunity?
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MuayThai85
07/08/19 12:01:42 AM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Pretty dumb unless that extra $20 went to charity or some shit. Even then, pretty dumb. Gives people a reason to cry about nothing.


About nothing? Being charged double the price based on your skin colour is nothing? Blatant racism is nothing?
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mattnd2007
07/08/19 12:03:00 AM
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chrono625 posted...
How do we end racism?

With racism.

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BigSLM1993
07/08/19 12:33:18 AM
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They had a biracial performer drop out because of this madness.
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Little_BonTron
07/08/19 12:34:24 AM
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Fucking good.

What were they thinking?
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FrisbeeDude
07/08/19 12:35:34 AM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
The decision to change course came after threats and harassment, said Adrienne Ayers, who goes by Numi and is the founder and co-director of Afrofuture Youth. She said that after right-wing websites highlighted the pricing, people called and harassed the owner of the venue, and sent messages to her co-directors family.


Yep, it's the fault of right wing websites, such as various subreddits and the Twitter feed of one of the musicians who pulled out because of this, for bringing their racially discriminatory pricing model to the public's attention. It's not the fault of the organizers for trying to charge separate prices based on race.


They were literally threatened by racists
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fhqwhgads
07/08/19 12:36:04 AM
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Lmao wonder how many tickets they didn't sell until they started sweating and backpedaling.
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DifferentialEquation
07/08/19 7:20:21 AM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
The decision to change course came after threats and harassment, said Adrienne Ayers, who goes by Numi and is the founder and co-director of Afrofuture Youth. She said that after right-wing websites highlighted the pricing, people called and harassed the owner of the venue, and sent messages to her co-directors family.


Yep, it's the fault of right wing websites, such as various subreddits and the Twitter feed of one of the musicians who pulled out because of this, for bringing their racially discriminatory pricing model to the public's attention. It's not the fault of the organizers for trying to charge separate prices based on race.


They were literally threatened by racists


The organizes themselves are racists. Only a racist would charge one race one price for admission, and another race another price.
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FrisbeeDude
07/08/19 7:50:06 AM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
The decision to change course came after threats and harassment, said Adrienne Ayers, who goes by Numi and is the founder and co-director of Afrofuture Youth. She said that after right-wing websites highlighted the pricing, people called and harassed the owner of the venue, and sent messages to her co-directors family.


Yep, it's the fault of right wing websites, such as various subreddits and the Twitter feed of one of the musicians who pulled out because of this, for bringing their racially discriminatory pricing model to the public's attention. It's not the fault of the organizers for trying to charge separate prices based on race.


They were literally threatened by racists


The organizes themselves are racists. Only a racist would charge one race one price for admission, and another race another price.


discriminatory, not necessarily racist. like "ladies get in free before 11"

maybe if those right wing racial intimidation squads had asked why the price structure was what it was, they're could have been positive dialouge....isnt that the route black people are told to pursue when we use public pressure against entities believed to be engaging in racsim? Dialouge, not cancellation?
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myzz7
07/08/19 7:50:55 AM
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"racist when white people do it but when we do it . . . "
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Southernfatman
07/08/19 7:51:08 AM
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You don't have to be a right winger to think the prices were BS. Like, I get what they're going for, but it's not the right thing to do.
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DifferentialEquation
07/08/19 7:51:58 AM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
The decision to change course came after threats and harassment, said Adrienne Ayers, who goes by Numi and is the founder and co-director of Afrofuture Youth. She said that after right-wing websites highlighted the pricing, people called and harassed the owner of the venue, and sent messages to her co-directors family.


Yep, it's the fault of right wing websites, such as various subreddits and the Twitter feed of one of the musicians who pulled out because of this, for bringing their racially discriminatory pricing model to the public's attention. It's not the fault of the organizers for trying to charge separate prices based on race.


They were literally threatened by racists


The organizes themselves are racists. Only a racist would charge one race one price for admission, and another race another price.


discriminatory, not necessarily racist. like "ladies get in free before 11"

maybe if those right wing racial intimidation squads had asked why the price structure was what it was, they're could have been positive dialouge....isnt that the route black people are told to pursue when we use public pressure against entities believed to be engaging in racsim? Dialouge, not cancellation?


It's pricing which discriminates solely on race. That's racist.
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FrisbeeDude
07/08/19 7:52:23 AM
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Southernfatman posted...
You don't have to be a right winger to think the prices were BS. Like, I get what they're going for, but it's not the right thing to do.


nope, you most certainly dont. when you engage in a harrassment campaign, it's a whole next step.
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FrisbeeDude
07/08/19 7:53:15 AM
#27:


DifferentialEquation posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
The decision to change course came after threats and harassment, said Adrienne Ayers, who goes by Numi and is the founder and co-director of Afrofuture Youth. She said that after right-wing websites highlighted the pricing, people called and harassed the owner of the venue, and sent messages to her co-directors family.


Yep, it's the fault of right wing websites, such as various subreddits and the Twitter feed of one of the musicians who pulled out because of this, for bringing their racially discriminatory pricing model to the public's attention. It's not the fault of the organizers for trying to charge separate prices based on race.


They were literally threatened by racists


The organizes themselves are racists. Only a racist would charge one race one price for admission, and another race another price.


discriminatory, not necessarily racist. like "ladies get in free before 11"

maybe if those right wing racial intimidation squads had asked why the price structure was what it was, they're could have been positive dialouge....isnt that the route black people are told to pursue when we use public pressure against entities believed to be engaging in racsim? Dialouge, not cancellation?


It's pricing which discriminates solely on race. That's racist.


do you believe gender based pricing for clubs/bars is inherently sexist as well?
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DifferentialEquation
07/08/19 7:54:02 AM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
The decision to change course came after threats and harassment, said Adrienne Ayers, who goes by Numi and is the founder and co-director of Afrofuture Youth. She said that after right-wing websites highlighted the pricing, people called and harassed the owner of the venue, and sent messages to her co-directors family.


Yep, it's the fault of right wing websites, such as various subreddits and the Twitter feed of one of the musicians who pulled out because of this, for bringing their racially discriminatory pricing model to the public's attention. It's not the fault of the organizers for trying to charge separate prices based on race.


They were literally threatened by racists


The organizes themselves are racists. Only a racist would charge one race one price for admission, and another race another price.


discriminatory, not necessarily racist. like "ladies get in free before 11"

maybe if those right wing racial intimidation squads had asked why the price structure was what it was, they're could have been positive dialouge....isnt that the route black people are told to pursue when we use public pressure against entities believed to be engaging in racsim? Dialouge, not cancellation?


It's pricing which discriminates solely on race. That's racist.


do you believe gender based pricing for clubs/bars is inherently sexist as well?


Yes.
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chrono625
07/08/19 7:55:11 AM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
The decision to change course came after threats and harassment, said Adrienne Ayers, who goes by Numi and is the founder and co-director of Afrofuture Youth. She said that after right-wing websites highlighted the pricing, people called and harassed the owner of the venue, and sent messages to her co-directors family.


Yep, it's the fault of right wing websites, such as various subreddits and the Twitter feed of one of the musicians who pulled out because of this, for bringing their racially discriminatory pricing model to the public's attention. It's not the fault of the organizers for trying to charge separate prices based on race.


They were literally threatened by racists


The organizes themselves are racists. Only a racist would charge one race one price for admission, and another race another price.


discriminatory, not necessarily racist. like "ladies get in free before 11"

maybe if those right wing racial intimidation squads had asked why the price structure was what it was, they're could have been positive dialouge....isnt that the route black people are told to pursue when we use public pressure against entities believed to be engaging in racsim? Dialouge, not cancellation?


It's pricing which discriminates solely on race. That's racist.


You're arguing with one of the biggest self proclaimed racists on CE.
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FrisbeeDude
07/08/19 7:57:15 AM
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chrono625 posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
The decision to change course came after threats and harassment, said Adrienne Ayers, who goes by Numi and is the founder and co-director of Afrofuture Youth. She said that after right-wing websites highlighted the pricing, people called and harassed the owner of the venue, and sent messages to her co-directors family.


Yep, it's the fault of right wing websites, such as various subreddits and the Twitter feed of one of the musicians who pulled out because of this, for bringing their racially discriminatory pricing model to the public's attention. It's not the fault of the organizers for trying to charge separate prices based on race.


They were literally threatened by racists


The organizes themselves are racists. Only a racist would charge one race one price for admission, and another race another price.


discriminatory, not necessarily racist. like "ladies get in free before 11"

maybe if those right wing racial intimidation squads had asked why the price structure was what it was, they're could have been positive dialouge....isnt that the route black people are told to pursue when we use public pressure against entities believed to be engaging in racsim? Dialouge, not cancellation?


It's pricing which discriminates solely on race. That's racist.


You're arguing with one of the biggest self proclaimed racists on CE.


This is the part where I call out your bullshit and ask you to present the carfax.
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FrisbeeDude
07/08/19 7:58:21 AM
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No point in having a discussion like this with a guy who thinks "ladies night" is sexist

probably cried during women only screenings of wonder woman too
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Musourenka
07/08/19 8:28:37 AM
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Discriminatory pricing. Dumb.
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The Trent
07/08/19 8:28:47 AM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
racist racists race racing racists' racism

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TalesofMedz
07/08/19 9:18:32 AM
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identify as a women on ladies night
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DifferentialEquation
07/08/19 9:22:25 AM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
No point in having a discussion like this with a guy who thinks "ladies night" is sexist

probably cried during women only screenings of wonder woman too


Ladies night promotions are considered discriminatory in some states. California's supreme court ruled them as violating civil rights.
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darkjedilink
07/08/19 9:25:06 AM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
The decision to change course came after threats and harassment, said Adrienne Ayers, who goes by Numi and is the founder and co-director of Afrofuture Youth. She said that after right-wing websites highlighted the pricing, people called and harassed the owner of the venue, and sent messages to her co-directors family.

Yep, it's the fault of right wing websites, such as various subreddits and the Twitter feed of one of the musicians who pulled out because of this, for bringing their racially discriminatory pricing model to the public's attention. It's not the fault of the organizers for trying to charge separate prices based on race.

They were literally threatened by racists

Racists like the biracial rapper who backed out of the show, literally pointing out that members of her own family wouldn't be welcomed at the show?
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Balrog0
07/08/19 9:25:42 AM
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I just wouldn't go
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CheekSqueak
07/08/19 9:30:21 AM
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mattnd2007 posted...
chrono625 posted...
How do we end racism?

With racism.

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darkjedilink
07/08/19 9:41:40 AM
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CheekSqueak posted...
mattnd2007 posted...
chrono625 posted...
How do we end racism?

With racism.

That is the modern liberal way.
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fhqwhgads
07/08/19 10:46:48 AM
#41:


FrisbeeDude posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
The decision to change course came after threats and harassment, said Adrienne Ayers, who goes by Numi and is the founder and co-director of Afrofuture Youth. She said that after right-wing websites highlighted the pricing, people called and harassed the owner of the venue, and sent messages to her co-directors family.


Yep, it's the fault of right wing websites, such as various subreddits and the Twitter feed of one of the musicians who pulled out because of this, for bringing their racially discriminatory pricing model to the public's attention. It's not the fault of the organizers for trying to charge separate prices based on race.


They were literally threatened by racists


The organizes themselves are racists. Only a racist would charge one race one price for admission, and another race another price.


discriminatory, not necessarily racist. like "ladies get in free before 11"

maybe if those right wing racial intimidation squads had asked why the price structure was what it was, they're could have been positive dialouge....isnt that the route black people are told to pursue when we use public pressure against entities believed to be engaging in racsim? Dialouge, not cancellation?

Lmao ladies is a race according to this guy.
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Annihilated
07/08/19 12:06:17 PM
#42:


chrono625 posted...
How do we end racism?

With racism.


It would be one thing if it actually DID end racism, but those of us living in reality know that it makes things exponentially worse.
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CheekSqueak
07/08/19 12:11:59 PM
#43:


Annihilated posted...
chrono625 posted...
How do we end racism?

With racism.


It would be one thing if it actually DID end racism, but those of us living in reality know that it makes things exponentially worse.

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