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Shuto-uke 07/11/19 11:47:54 AM #1:	If I understood correctly, 45 wants the citizenship question in the census so illegals and legal immigrants are deterred from answering the census, thus affecting re-districting, right? But usually if you don't answer the census a census employee will harass you until you do, and then you can even get fined or see some jail time. Will they stop sending census employees to try to get an answer and/or stop jailing people if they refuse to answer so they can achieve the above-mentioned deterrence? <cite>Shuto-uke posted [p:924542242] in About the ... [t:77856234]...</cite> <quote>If I understood correctly, 45 wants the citizenship question in the census so illegals and legal immigrants are deterred from answering the census, thus affecting re-districting, right? But usually if you don't answer the census a census employee will harass you until you do, and then you can even get fined or see some jail time. Will they stop sending census employees to try to get an answer and/or stop jailing people if they refuse to answer so they can achieve the above-mentioned deterrence?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KlownArt 07/11/19 11:50:22 AM #2:	I've literally never seen someone from the Census in my life. I don't know how they are keeping count of me, but it certainly isn't by me telling them I'm here. <cite>KlownArt posted [p:924542337] in About the ... [t:77856234]...</cite> <quote>I've literally never seen someone from the Census in my life. I don't know how they are keeping count of me, but it certainly isn't by me telling them I'm here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shuto-uke 07/11/19 11:51:13 AM #3:	KlownArt posted... I've literally never seen someone from the Census in my life. I don't know how they are keeping count of me, but it certainly isn't by me telling them I'm here. Well people just mail back the answers. The census employees just show up if you don't mail it <cite>Shuto-uke posted [p:924542388] in About the ... [t:77856234]...</cite> <quote><cite>KlownArt posted...</cite> <quote>I've literally never seen someone from the Census in my life. I don't know how they are keeping count of me, but it certainly isn't by me telling them I'm here.</quote> Well people just mail back the answers. The census employees just show up if you don't mail it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lebronwon 07/11/19 11:51:19 AM #4:	KlownArt posted... I've literally never seen someone from the Census in my life. --- Not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7 <cite>Lebronwon posted [p:924542393] in About the ... [t:77856234]...</cite> <quote><cite>KlownArt posted...</cite> <quote>I've literally never seen someone from the Census in my life. </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeoShadowhen 07/11/19 11:52:17 AM #5:	Why would legal immigrants be deterred? <cite>NeoShadowhen posted [p:924542434] in About the ... [t:77856234]...</cite> <quote>Why would legal immigrants be deterred?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shuto-uke 07/11/19 11:53:54 AM #6:	NeoShadowhen posted... Why would legal immigrants be deterred? some live in mixed households (legal and illegal), some would fear being lumped together with illegals, etc. <cite>Shuto-uke posted [p:924542494] in About the ... [t:77856234]...</cite> <quote><cite>NeoShadowhen posted...</cite> <quote>Why would legal immigrants be deterred?</quote> some live in mixed households (legal and illegal), some would fear being lumped together with illegals, etc.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 07/11/19 11:56:09 AM #7:	A citizenship question was on the census form up until 1950. Why is it a big freakin' deal now? If anything, the only question on the census should be "how many people live here?" - anything else has been superfluous since the 3/5ths and "indians not taxed" clauses were abandoned. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:924542593] in About the ... [t:77856234]...</cite> <quote>A citizenship question was on the census form up until 1950. Why is it a big freakin' deal now? If anything, the only question on the census should be "how many people live here?" - anything else has been superfluous since the 3/5ths and "indians not taxed" clauses were abandoned.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeoShadowhen 07/11/19 11:56:47 AM #8:	I guess the real question is if illegals should be taken into account when it comes to districting. <cite>NeoShadowhen posted [p:924542627] in About the ... [t:77856234]...</cite> <quote>I guess the real question is if illegals should be taken into account when it comes to districting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shuto-uke 07/11/19 12:05:47 PM #9:	NeoShadowhen posted... I guess the real question is if illegals should be taken into account when it comes to districting. No the question asked in this topic. <cite>Shuto-uke posted [p:924543000] in About the ... [t:77856234]...</cite> <quote><cite>NeoShadowhen posted...</cite> <quote>I guess the real question is if illegals should be taken into account when it comes to districting.</quote> No the question asked in this topic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Houston 07/11/19 12:07:59 PM #10:	I think it's to see how many people are in our country. Seems like a reasonable thing to wonder about --- "Sometimes you will never know the value of a moment until it becomes a memory." - Dr Seuss <cite>Houston posted [p:924543097] in About the ... [t:77856234]...</cite> <quote>I think it's to see how many people are in our country. Seems like a reasonable thing to wonder about</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KlownArt 07/11/19 12:09:01 PM #11:	Shuto-uke posted... KlownArt posted... I've literally never seen someone from the Census in my life. I don't know how they are keeping count of me, but it certainly isn't by me telling them I'm here. Well people just mail back the answers. The census employees just show up if you don't mail it I've never mailed anything back either and no one ever came knocking on my door. <cite>KlownArt posted [p:924543137] in About the ... [t:77856234]...</cite> <quote><cite>Shuto-uke posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KlownArt posted...</cite> <quote>I've literally never seen someone from the Census in my life. I don't know how they are keeping count of me, but it certainly isn't by me telling them I'm here.</quote> Well people just mail back the answers. The census employees just show up if you don't mail it</quote> I've never mailed anything back either and no one ever came knocking on my door.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shuto-uke 07/11/19 12:09:22 PM #12:	Houston posted... I think it's to see how many people are in our country. Seems like a reasonable thing to wonder about again, this is not what I asked <cite>Shuto-uke posted [p:924543153] in About the ... [t:77856234]...</cite> <quote><cite>Houston posted...</cite> <quote>I think it's to see how many people are in our country. Seems like a reasonable thing to wonder about</quote> again, this is not what I asked</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shuto-uke 07/11/19 12:09:46 PM #13:	KlownArt posted... Shuto-uke posted... KlownArt posted... I've literally never seen someone from the Census in my life. I don't know how they are keeping count of me, but it certainly isn't by me telling them I'm here. Well people just mail back the answers. The census employees just show up if you don't mail it I've never mailed anything back either and no one ever came knocking on my door. so maybe that's what this will happen this time around? <cite>Shuto-uke posted [p:924543171] in About the ... [t:77856234]...</cite> <quote><cite>KlownArt posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Shuto-uke posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KlownArt posted...</cite> <quote>I've literally never seen someone from the Census in my life. I don't know how they are keeping count of me, but it certainly isn't by me telling them I'm here.</quote> Well people just mail back the answers. The census employees just show up if you don't mail it</quote> I've never mailed anything back either and no one ever came knocking on my door.</quote> so maybe that's what this will happen this time around?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shuto-uke 07/11/19 3:06:02 PM #14:	bump <cite>Shuto-uke posted [p:924550722] in About the ... [t:77856234]...</cite> <quote>bump</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 07/11/19 7:57:57 PM #15:	Shuto-uke posted... If I understood correctly, 45 wants the citizenship question in the census so illegals and legal immigrants are deterred from answering the census, thus affecting re-districting, right? But usually if you don't answer the census a census employee will harass you until you do, and then you can even get fined or see some jail time. Will they stop sending census employees to try to get an answer and/or stop jailing people if they refuse to answer so they can achieve the above-mentioned deterrence? Err... I don't think you can be fined or jailed? I worked briefly for the census (payroll, so not field work), but I thought the procedure was just attempting to see if there were residents in a house, discussing why you are there, assuring them it is confidential (if needed), and then marking checkboxes. <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:924562579] in About the ... [t:77856234]...</cite> <quote><cite>Shuto-uke posted...</cite> <quote>If I understood correctly, 45 wants the citizenship question in the census so illegals and legal immigrants are deterred from answering the census, thus affecting re-districting, right? But usually if you don't answer the census a census employee will harass you until you do, and then you can even get fined or see some jail time. Will they stop sending census employees to try to get an answer and/or stop jailing people if they refuse to answer so they can achieve the above-mentioned deterrence?</quote> Err... I don't think you can be fined or jailed? I worked briefly for the census (payroll, so not field work), but I thought the procedure was just attempting to see if there were residents in a house, discussing why you are there, assuring them it is confidential (if needed), and then marking checkboxes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZMythos 07/11/19 8:01:03 PM #16:	Why not have literacy tests for voters? Amirite? --- Rainbow Dashing: "it's just star wars" AutumnEspirit: kissu <cite>ZMythos posted [p:924562685] in About the ... [t:77856234]...</cite> <quote>Why not have literacy tests for voters? Amirite?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shuto-uke 07/11/19 8:47:08 PM #17:	Ruvan22 posted... Shuto-uke posted... If I understood correctly, 45 wants the citizenship question in the census so illegals and legal immigrants are deterred from answering the census, thus affecting re-districting, right? But usually if you don't answer the census a census employee will harass you until you do, and then you can even get fined or see some jail time. Will they stop sending census employees to try to get an answer and/or stop jailing people if they refuse to answer so they can achieve the above-mentioned deterrence? Err... I don't think you can be fined or jailed? I worked briefly for the census (payroll, so not field work), but I thought the procedure was just attempting to see if there were residents in a house, discussing why you are there, assuring them it is confidential (if needed), and then marking checkboxes. it's a possibilty, but apparently it doesn't happen sometimes <cite>Shuto-uke posted [p:924564384] in About the ... [t:77856234]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ruvan22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Shuto-uke posted...</cite> <quote>If I understood correctly, 45 wants the citizenship question in the census so illegals and legal immigrants are deterred from answering the census, thus affecting re-districting, right? But usually if you don't answer the census a census employee will harass you until you do, and then you can even get fined or see some jail time. Will they stop sending census employees to try to get an answer and/or stop jailing people if they refuse to answer so they can achieve the above-mentioned deterrence?</quote> Err... I don't think you can be fined or jailed? I worked briefly for the census (payroll, so not field work), but I thought the procedure was just attempting to see if there were residents in a house, discussing why you are there, assuring them it is confidential (if needed), and then marking checkboxes.</quote> it's a possibilty, but apparently it doesn't happen sometimes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shuto-uke 07/11/19 8:47:43 PM #18:	ZMythos posted... Why not have literacy tests for voters? Amirite? I know right? :/ <cite>Shuto-uke posted [p:924564404] in About the ... [t:77856234]...</cite> <quote><cite>ZMythos posted...</cite> <quote>Why not have literacy tests for voters? Amirite?</quote> I know right? :/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mooreandrew58 07/11/19 8:49:53 PM #19:	Shuto-uke posted... KlownArt posted... I've literally never seen someone from the Census in my life. I don't know how they are keeping count of me, but it certainly isn't by me telling them I'm here. Well people just mail back the answers. The census employees just show up if you don't mail it My grandad always threw the shit in the trash never got anyone come knocking either Ive never gotten any mail from them and never seen one myself. Closest to it was i saw where they where hiring once. --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" <cite>mooreandrew58 posted [p:924564493] in About the ... [t:77856234]...</cite> <quote><cite>Shuto-uke posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KlownArt posted...</cite> <quote>I've literally never seen someone from the Census in my life. I don't know how they are keeping count of me, but it certainly isn't by me telling them I'm here.</quote> Well people just mail back the answers. The census employees just show up if you don't mail it</quote> My grandad always threw the shit in the trash never got anyone come knocking either Ive never gotten any mail from them and never seen one myself. Closest to it was i saw where they where hiring once.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 07/11/19 8:58:00 PM #20:	Shuto-uke posted... Ruvan22 posted... Shuto-uke posted... If I understood correctly, 45 wants the citizenship question in the census so illegals and legal immigrants are deterred from answering the census, thus affecting re-districting, right? But usually if you don't answer the census a census employee will harass you until you do, and then you can even get fined or see some jail time. Will they stop sending census employees to try to get an answer and/or stop jailing people if they refuse to answer so they can achieve the above-mentioned deterrence? Err... I don't think you can be fined or jailed? I worked briefly for the census (payroll, so not field work), but I thought the procedure was just attempting to see if there were residents in a house, discussing why you are there, assuring them it is confidential (if needed), and then marking checkboxes. it's a possibilty, but apparently it doesn't happen sometimes Has it happened after 1970? https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2010/03/can-you-get-in-trouble-for-not-filling-out-your-census-form.html <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:924564788] in About the ... [t:77856234]...</cite> <quote><cite>Shuto-uke posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ruvan22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Shuto-uke posted...</cite> <quote>If I understood correctly, 45 wants the citizenship question in the census so illegals and legal immigrants are deterred from answering the census, thus affecting re-districting, right? But usually if you don't answer the census a census employee will harass you until you do, and then you can even get fined or see some jail time. Will they stop sending census employees to try to get an answer and/or stop jailing people if they refuse to answer so they can achieve the above-mentioned deterrence?</quote> Err... I don't think you can be fined or jailed? I worked briefly for the census (payroll, so not field work), but I thought the procedure was just attempting to see if there were residents in a house, discussing why you are there, assuring them it is confidential (if needed), and then marking checkboxes.</quote> it's a possibilty, but apparently it doesn't happen sometimes</quote> Has it happened after 1970? https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2010/03/can-you-get-in-trouble-for-not-filling-out-your-census-form.html</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shuto-uke 07/11/19 9:03:46 PM #21:	Ruvan22 posted... Shuto-uke posted... Ruvan22 posted... Shuto-uke posted... If I understood correctly, 45 wants the citizenship question in the census so illegals and legal immigrants are deterred from answering the census, thus affecting re-districting, right? But usually if you don't answer the census a census employee will harass you until you do, and then you can even get fined or see some jail time. Will they stop sending census employees to try to get an answer and/or stop jailing people if they refuse to answer so they can achieve the above-mentioned deterrence? Err... I don't think you can be fined or jailed? I worked briefly for the census (payroll, so not field work), but I thought the procedure was just attempting to see if there were residents in a house, discussing why you are there, assuring them it is confidential (if needed), and then marking checkboxes. it's a possibilty, but apparently it doesn't happen sometimes Has it happened after 1970? https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2010/03/can-you-get-in-trouble-for-not-filling-out-your-census-form.html interesting. So maybe that was the strategy <cite>Shuto-uke posted [p:924565009] in About the ... [t:77856234]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ruvan22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Shuto-uke posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ruvan22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Shuto-uke posted...</cite> <quote>If I understood correctly, 45 wants the citizenship question in the census so illegals and legal immigrants are deterred from answering the census, thus affecting re-districting, right? But usually if you don't answer the census a census employee will harass you until you do, and then you can even get fined or see some jail time. Will they stop sending census employees to try to get an answer and/or stop jailing people if they refuse to answer so they can achieve the above-mentioned deterrence?</quote> Err... I don't think you can be fined or jailed? I worked briefly for the census (payroll, so not field work), but I thought the procedure was just attempting to see if there were residents in a house, discussing why you are there, assuring them it is confidential (if needed), and then marking checkboxes.</quote> it's a possibilty, but apparently it doesn't happen sometimes</quote> Has it happened after 1970? https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2010/03/can-you-get-in-trouble-for-not-filling-out-your-census-form.html</quote> interesting. So maybe that was the strategy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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