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KTG2
07/14/19 7:50:13 PM
#52:


Jackal4 posted...
Maybe the parents should be blamed, since they are knowingly leading their kids into these situations...liberals are just the worst kinds of people.


"The worst kinds of people" says supporter of baby cages
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Tmaster148
07/14/19 7:50:23 PM
#53:


ThePrinceFish posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
The Pro-Life crowd defending torturing children to death. Brilliant.

The Open Borders crowd being dishonest and emotional as usual.


The irony of stating this when I have never said I'm for open borders. Should really put your emotions and dishonesty aside first before you try to call others out for it.
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Comfy_Pillow
07/14/19 7:50:24 PM
#54:


Is this the part where people pretend every illegal is seeking asylum from the cartels or something
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Gobstoppers12
07/14/19 7:50:34 PM
#56:


Hairistotle posted...
Gobstoppers12 posted...
By crossing the border, they're submitting themselves to the system. Too many illegals = not enough room, not enough supplies, not enough manpower.

^why continue to discourse with someone who posts like this?

You act as if I'm wrong.

Reality is real, sorry to say. If the system is overloaded, that's what happens.
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ThePrinceFish
07/14/19 7:51:13 PM
#57:


Tmaster148 posted...
ThePrinceFish posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
The Pro-Life crowd defending torturing children to death. Brilliant.

The Open Borders crowd being dishonest and emotional as usual.


The irony of stating this when I have never said I'm for open borders. Should really put your emotions and dishonesty aside first before you try to call others out for it.

"I never said I wanted open borders" might as well be the catchphrase of CE's open borders crowd.
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pegusus123456
07/14/19 7:51:19 PM
#58:


evil_zombie11 posted...
pegusus123456 posted...
evil_zombie11 posted...
Just voicing my opinion, I'm about that life.

As good a defense of being a horrible person as your defense of children in a concentration camp.


Listen man I wasn't even born in the US, I was born in Asia. Came to the states and followed the process to become a citizen. These whiners that will do it illegally and then cry about it bring it upon themselves.

So you're an Asian-American horrible person, got it.
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yunalenne10
07/14/19 7:51:57 PM
#59:


What would be the best solution to all of this?
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Gobstoppers12
07/14/19 7:52:20 PM
#60:


TheVipaGTS posted...
Gobstoppers12 posted...
By crossing the border, they're submitting themselves to the system. Too many illegals = not enough room, not enough supplies, not enough manpower.

Again..THEY'RE CHILDREN. this wasn't their decision. if you were talking about the adults being treated like this i'd still disagree but understand.....Shut the fuck up on this one. You're actually ok with treating children below the level that we treat murders....and you think you're in the right....jfc...Even if you're just trolling the fact that these are the kind of thoughts that run through your head and this is what you choose to spend your time doing is sad, man.

My solution would be to build a wall and keep them out in the first place. They can apply through official channels.
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Evening_Dragon
07/14/19 7:52:41 PM
#61:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
Gobstoppers12 posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
are you actually arguing that we need to treat the children like this to punish their parents?

No, I'm saying that the enormous number of illegals are causing this problem for themselves by overloading the facilities.

Ok, but that still doesn't justify this. the fact that your response to how we're treating children with no idea what's going on is "well tell their parents to not do it!"....you literally are ok with treating children like shit just to spite their parents....fuck off...

I'm waiting for your solution. The system is overloaded. We can't just magically produce more space and resources.


Then we can let them fucking go when they're overloaded. You don't make exceptions for humane treatment when it can be afforded, and humanity in this case is letting kids and their parents go back to whatever hole in the wall they had that was still better than a camp with no resources.

What are they going to do, run and hide? They've already been doing that, they still got caught.
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evil_zombie11
07/14/19 7:52:55 PM
#62:


pegusus123456 posted...
evil_zombie11 posted...
pegusus123456 posted...
evil_zombie11 posted...
Just voicing my opinion, I'm about that life.

As good a defense of being a horrible person as your defense of children in a concentration camp.


Listen man I wasn't even born in the US, I was born in Asia. Came to the states and followed the process to become a citizen. These whiners that will do it illegally and then cry about it bring it upon themselves.

So you're an Asian-American horrible person, got it.


Well that's like, your opinion man.
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DrizztLink
07/14/19 7:53:23 PM
#63:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
Gobstoppers12 posted...
By crossing the border, they're submitting themselves to the system. Too many illegals = not enough room, not enough supplies, not enough manpower.

Again..THEY'RE CHILDREN. this wasn't their decision. if you were talking about the adults being treated like this i'd still disagree but understand.....Shut the fuck up on this one. You're actually ok with treating children below the level that we treat murders....and you think you're in the right....jfc...Even if you're just trolling the fact that these are the kind of thoughts that run through your head and this is what you choose to spend your time doing is sad, man.

My solution would be to build a wall and keep them out in the first place. They can apply through official channels.

DrizztLink posted...
I'm wondering what this dude has to jump through to ignore the people claiming asylum legally and still getting put in there.

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Gobstoppers12
07/14/19 7:54:09 PM
#65:


Evening_Dragon posted...
Then we can let them fucking go

Open borders aren't a solution to illegal aliens. That's called surrender.
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pegusus123456
07/14/19 7:54:30 PM
#66:


evil_zombie11 posted...
pegusus123456 posted...
evil_zombie11 posted...
pegusus123456 posted...
evil_zombie11 posted...
Just voicing my opinion, I'm about that life.

As good a defense of being a horrible person as your defense of children in a concentration camp.


Listen man I wasn't even born in the US, I was born in Asia. Came to the states and followed the process to become a citizen. These whiners that will do it illegally and then cry about it bring it upon themselves.

So you're an Asian-American horrible person, got it.


Well that's like, your opinion man.

I feel like being okay with your government keeping kids in a concentration camp is as objective a standard for being a horrible person as you're gonna get actually.
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Tropicalwood
07/14/19 7:55:10 PM
#67:


pegusus123456 posted...
evil_zombie11 posted...
pegusus123456 posted...
evil_zombie11 posted...
Just voicing my opinion, I'm about that life.

As good a defense of being a horrible person as your defense of children in a concentration camp.


Listen man I wasn't even born in the US, I was born in Asia. Came to the states and followed the process to become a citizen. These whiners that will do it illegally and then cry about it bring it upon themselves.

So you're an Asian-American horrible person, got it.

Probably speaks better english than you too.
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Gobstoppers12
07/14/19 7:56:02 PM
#68:


DrizztLink posted...
Gobstoppers12 posted...
Yao posted...
Gobstoppers12 posted...
don't cross the border illegally


We should make a legal way for people to do it

We have several. These people would rather ignore them, apparently.

I'm wondering what this dude has to jump through to ignore the people claiming asylum legally and still getting put in there.

It's still the fault of the illegals. The system is overloaded and congress is too stubborn to change the laws or provide more funding. There are ways to deal with this, but any positivity on the border in terms of curbing illegal aliens would be seen as "giving Trump a win," so they won't do it.
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IMNOTRAGED
07/14/19 7:56:47 PM
#69:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
I'm waiting for your solution. The system is overloaded. We can't just magically produce more space and resources.


The separation policy is costing billions of dollars of taxpayers' money more than the catch and release policy ever did. Private companies are profiting off of the suffering of children.

https://nbcnews.to/2KZo4Tt
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Antifar
07/14/19 7:56:49 PM
#70:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
The system is overloaded and congress is too stubborn you change the laws or provide more funding.

They did provide more funding; it wasn't used to improve conditions but rather to conduct more raids.
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Gobstoppers12
07/14/19 7:57:48 PM
#71:


Evening_Dragon posted...
humanity in this case is letting kids and their parents go back to whatever hole in the wall they had that was still better than a camp with no resources.

You do know they can do this, right? They're being held because they won't leave and are insisting on asylum proceedings.
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evil_zombie11
07/14/19 7:57:50 PM
#72:


pegusus123456 posted...
evil_zombie11 posted...
pegusus123456 posted...
evil_zombie11 posted...
pegusus123456 posted...
evil_zombie11 posted...
Just voicing my opinion, I'm about that life.

As good a defense of being a horrible person as your defense of children in a concentration camp.


Listen man I wasn't even born in the US, I was born in Asia. Came to the states and followed the process to become a citizen. These whiners that will do it illegally and then cry about it bring it upon themselves.

So you're an Asian-American horrible person, got it.


Well that's like, your opinion man.

I feel like being okay with your government keeping kids in a concentration camp is as objective a standard for being a horrible person as you're gonna get actually.


They're not concentration camps or gulags, they're holding cells for people trying to rush over here in the hundreds or thousands. I meannnnnn they probably can't even get enough housing to counter the number of people coming in. It's a mess all around I'll agree. D:
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ThePrinceFish
07/14/19 7:58:25 PM
#73:


IMNOTRAGED posted...
Gobstoppers12 posted...
I'm waiting for your solution. The system is overloaded. We can't just magically produce more space and resources.


The separation policy is costing billions of dollars of taxpayers' money more than the catch and release policy ever did. Private companies are profiting off of the suffering of children.

https://nbcnews.to/2KZo4Tt

Catch and release is de facto open borders. Especially if you're going to get pissy when ICE moves to remove people who skip their court dates. Like the recently agonized over raids for example.
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pegusus123456
07/14/19 8:00:39 PM
#74:


evil_zombie11 posted...
pegusus123456 posted...
evil_zombie11 posted...
pegusus123456 posted...
evil_zombie11 posted...
pegusus123456 posted...
evil_zombie11 posted...
Just voicing my opinion, I'm about that life.

As good a defense of being a horrible person as your defense of children in a concentration camp.


Listen man I wasn't even born in the US, I was born in Asia. Came to the states and followed the process to become a citizen. These whiners that will do it illegally and then cry about it bring it upon themselves.

So you're an Asian-American horrible person, got it.


Well that's like, your opinion man.

I feel like being okay with your government keeping kids in a concentration camp is as objective a standard for being a horrible person as you're gonna get actually.


They're not concentration camps or gulags, they're holding cells for people trying to rush over here in the hundreds or thousands. I meannnnnn they probably can't even get enough housing to counter the number of people coming in. It's a mess all around I'll agree. D:

Oh, okay, they're not concentration camps. They're holding cells where the children are unwashed, critically ill, sleeping on bare concrete, and shoved in with 700 other kids. But they're not concentration camps, so who gives a shit?
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ultimate reaver
07/14/19 8:02:37 PM
#75:


People who support the imprisonment of children in utter squalor for indeterminate and unregulated lengths of time are either sociopathic or apathetic to the point of scarcely being human anymore
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IMNOTRAGED
07/14/19 8:03:28 PM
#76:


Also, cbp agents at legal points of entry have reportedly turned away or ignored immigrants. Which actually is illegal. And inhumane.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/dec/19/us-mexico-border-migrants-claim-asylum-difficulties

Antelope Wells, the closest port of entry to where Jakelin and her father crossed, receives possibly the least amount of traffic of any port of entry across the US-Mexican border. There is literally nothing there, said Nia Rucker of the New Mexico American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU).

Those who monitor the border describe just how hard making a claim there can be. Juan Ortiz, a University of Arizona PhD candidate, took the four-hour drive from Tucson on 17 December to see Antelope Wells for himself. The two border officers on duty that day told him they would discourage people from seeking asylum there at a port with such limited capacity.

Experts and advocates up and down the border share a similar skepticism of small border posts. Though US border officials say asylum seekers are being accepted at all border ports of entry, activists who have tested the system paint a similar picture of US officials unwilling or unable to accept asylum claims no matter that the administration is asking migrants to present themselves there.


Doesn't sound like they actually want people to do this "the right way" to me.
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FursonaNonGrata
07/14/19 8:04:24 PM
#78:


Strong border Republicans stay on that little dick shit

Enjoying the fact that we have concentration camps and children are dying in them

Its all a fucking game to them and they love it simply because it makes people sad and scared
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Tmaster148
07/14/19 8:04:28 PM
#79:


Hairistotle posted...
ultimate reaver posted...
People who support the imprisonment of children in utter squalor for indeterminate and unregulated lengths of time are either sociopathic or apathetic to the point of scarcely being human anymore

but they violated the law, you see

the law is sacred, you see


Should probably tell the president and the republicans in congress that the law is sacred.
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LightningAce11
07/14/19 8:05:25 PM
#81:


You people would be up in arms if it were a bunch of white kids in the same situation.

It's not a matter of the law for you. Why don't you just admit your true feelings?
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IMNOTRAGED
07/14/19 8:05:45 PM
#82:


ThePrinceFish posted...
Catch and release is de facto open borders.


Okay?
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Gobstoppers12
07/14/19 8:06:46 PM
#83:


LightningAce11 posted...
You people would be up in arms if it were a bunch of white kids in the same situation.

Prove it. Right now this is just pure bullshit and I'm telling you to prove this statement to be true.

Immediately, if you don't mind.
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Goats
07/14/19 8:06:56 PM
#84:


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Antifar
07/14/19 8:07:17 PM
#85:


You can shout all you want about the law, but this isn't how most of our laws are enforced. We don't have camps for the people who downloaded movies or drank beer before turning 21 or smoked pot in the suburbs. Those sorts of criminals are every bit as prevalent as undocumented immigrants, and probably moreso. But as a society we've realized, correctly, that strict enforcement of such things is a poor use of public resources.
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Tmaster148
07/14/19 8:07:29 PM
#86:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
LightningAce11 posted...
You people would be up in arms if it were a bunch of white kids in the same situation.

Prove it. Right now this is just pure bullshit and I'm telling you to prove this statement to be true.

Immediately, if you don't mind.


So you are saying that you don't care the race of the children, just as long as they get locked up in concentration camps.
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DrizztLink
07/14/19 8:07:42 PM
#87:


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evil_zombie11
07/14/19 8:07:50 PM
#88:


pegusus123456

You can still give some ****s, but what's the Gov't supposed to do? let 'em run rampant?
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Gobstoppers12
07/14/19 8:08:22 PM
#89:


Tmaster148 posted...
Gobstoppers12 posted...
LightningAce11 posted...
You people would be up in arms if it were a bunch of white kids in the same situation.

Prove it. Right now this is just pure bullshit and I'm telling you to prove this statement to be true.

Immediately, if you don't mind.


So you are saying that you don't care the race of the children, just as long as they get locked up in concentration camps.

Shut the fuck up.
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Evening_Dragon
07/14/19 8:09:03 PM
#90:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
Evening_Dragon posted...
humanity in this case is letting kids and their parents go back to whatever hole in the wall they had that was still better than a camp with no resources.

You do know they can do this, right? They're being held because they won't leave and are insisting on asylum proceedings.


No, they can't. There's the system of voluntary departure, but that's not at their discretion.

https://www.alllaw.com/articles/nolo/us-immigration/voluntary-departure-vs-deportation.html

Voluntary departure allows you to leave the United States within a certain time period on your own, rather than under a removal order. You can request voluntary departure either from ICE (even before youre in court proceedings) or from the Immigration Judge (IJ), either at the beginning or end of removal proceedings. It is described as a discretionary form of relief, meaning that an applicant is not necessarily entitled to it.


https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/voluntary-departure-who-is-eligible.html

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Evening_Dragon
07/14/19 8:09:23 PM
#91:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
Gobstoppers12 posted...
LightningAce11 posted...
You people would be up in arms if it were a bunch of white kids in the same situation.

Prove it. Right now this is just pure bullshit and I'm telling you to prove this statement to be true.

Immediately, if you don't mind.


So you are saying that you don't care the race of the children, just as long as they get locked up in concentration camps.

Shut the fuck up.


He's not wrong.
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Gobstoppers12
07/14/19 8:10:25 PM
#92:


Evening_Dragon posted...
Gobstoppers12 posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
Gobstoppers12 posted...
LightningAce11 posted...
You people would be up in arms if it were a bunch of white kids in the same situation.

Prove it. Right now this is just pure bullshit and I'm telling you to prove this statement to be true.

Immediately, if you don't mind.


So you are saying that you don't care the race of the children, just as long as they get locked up in concentration camps.

Shut the fuck up.


He's not wrong.

He's wrong and you would both be doing yourselves favors by shutting the fuck up.
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Bloodychess
07/14/19 8:10:36 PM
#93:


Man this topic is raging

Look at everyone go
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Solar_Crimson
07/14/19 8:10:38 PM
#94:


Hairistotle posted...
Rexdragon125 posted...
Do republicans get off on being cartoon villains? I don't get it

Seems like they enjoy when people they don't like are persecuted and/or tortured and/or killed.

Yep. Watch if something like this happened in--say--South Africa.
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Keith_Valentine
07/14/19 8:10:40 PM
#95:


IMNOTRAGED posted...
Critically Ill

https://www.newsweek.com/migrant-detention-center-conditions-child-separation-abuse-trauma-trump-1449043

Elora Mukherjee, the director of Columbia Law School's Immigrants' Rights Clinic, recently interviewed 70 detained migrant children in Clint, Texas. They were so dirty they had a stench, she says, and was unable to be near them without feeling ill.


Over the course of three days, Mukherjee said she witnessed inadequate bedding, clothing, and saw no hygiene tools like soap, toothbrushes and diapers.

"Never before have we learned of 700 children being detained in a facility built for 104 or 106 adults," Mukherjee said in her testimony. "Never before have we met with children detained in [Customs and Border Patrol] custody for a week, much less weeks and nearly a month. Never before have we had to directly intervene to get critically ill babies admitted to the hospital."


Mukherjee was part of a 10-person team sent to inspect conditions at the holding centers to make sure they complied with court-ordered standards that the camps be "safe and sanitary." The group was allowed to speak to detained children but they were denied free access or even tours of the facility.

"The extraordinary trauma inflicted on separated children is not an incidental byproduct of the administration's family separation policy it is the very point," she said in her testimony. "The federal government seeks to inflict so much distress on children seeking asylum that other families would be deterred from trying to seek refuge in this country."


The Trump administration is creating a crisis that's going to be felt for years to come.


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SuperShake666
07/14/19 8:11:02 PM
#96:


Big yikes to anyone defending literal concentration camps.
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Rexdragon125
07/14/19 8:11:09 PM
#97:


Goats posted...
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Nothing like locking up children in concentration camps to help you feel like less of a failure I guess.
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Goats
07/14/19 8:11:54 PM
#98:


Evening_Dragon posted...
Gobstoppers12 posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
Gobstoppers12 posted...
LightningAce11 posted...
You people would be up in arms if it were a bunch of white kids in the same situation.

Prove it. Right now this is just pure bullshit and I'm telling you to prove this statement to be true.

Immediately, if you don't mind.


So you are saying that you don't care the race of the children, just as long as they get locked up in concentration camps.

Shut the fuck up.


He's not wrong.

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IMNOTRAGED
07/14/19 8:13:19 PM
#99:


Solar_Crimson posted...
Yep. Watch if something like this happened in--say--South Africa.


Was just about to bring this up. A few people on this board were freaking the fuck out over this on a daily basis.

Keith_Valentine posted...
Trump didnt make them come here illegally, genius.


Except, he did. See post #76
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SwaggieBelle462
07/14/19 8:13:45 PM
#100:


LightningAce11 posted...
You people would be up in arms if it were a bunch of white kids in the same situation.

It's not a matter of the law for you. Why don't you just admit your true feelings?


Uh huh

Sure
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DrizztLink
07/14/19 8:13:52 PM
#101:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
Evening_Dragon posted...
Gobstoppers12 posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
Gobstoppers12 posted...
LightningAce11 posted...
You people would be up in arms if it were a bunch of white kids in the same situation.

Prove it. Right now this is just pure bullshit and I'm telling you to prove this statement to be true.

Immediately, if you don't mind.


So you are saying that you don't care the race of the children, just as long as they get locked up in concentration camps.

Shut the fuck up.


He's not wrong.

He's wrong and you would both be doing yourselves favors by shutting the fuck up.

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