Current Events > Migrant Detention Center Inspector Says Children Are Unwashed, Sobbing and

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Only a matter of time till Trump supporters start calling for a "solution" to the crisis of the border and facilities being overloaded to help open up more space. Hell, one of them already referenced murdering them in this topic
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Goats posted...

Antifar had made one major error though. He'd ignored the sign that had cautioned him about cruelbuffalos wearing turbams. There was a key in between them

How long has this been your sig? Lol
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Gobstoppers12 posted...

He's wrong and you would both be doing yourselves favors by shutting the fuck up.

I guess this is what happens when your argument runs out of steam.

SwaggieBelle462 posted...

LightningAce11 posted...

You people would be up in arms if it were a bunch of white kids in the same situation.

It's not a matter of the law for you. Why don't you just admit your true feelings?

Uh huh

Sure

Again, South Africa.
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Goats posted...

Evening_Dragon posted...

Gobstoppers12 posted...

Tmaster148 posted...

Gobstoppers12 posted...

LightningAce11 posted...

You people would be up in arms if it were a bunch of white kids in the same situation.

Prove it. Right now this is just pure bullshit and I'm telling you to prove this statement to be true.

Immediately, if you don't mind.

So you are saying that you don't care the race of the children, just as long as they get locked up in concentration camps.

Shut the fuck up.

He's not wrong.

Gobstoppers12 posted...

He's wrong and the three of you would be doing yourselves favors by shutting the fuck up.

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Just awful. Its insane to me that people can be okay treating other people this way.
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Solar_Crimson posted...

Gobstoppers12 posted...

He's wrong and you would both be doing yourselves favors by shutting the fuck up.

I guess this is what happens when your argument runs out of steam.

SwaggieBelle462 posted...

LightningAce11 posted...

You people would be up in arms if it were a bunch of white kids in the same situation.

It's not a matter of the law for you. Why don't you just admit your true feelings?

Uh huh

Sure

Again, South Africa.

In South Africa, the corrupt government is illegally seizing land among other atrocities which will leave the country in shambles, think Zimbabwe 2.0

It doesnt relate however to this situation in America.

wow. some of you are real pieces of shit
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
They're not wrong. You're blatantly pro torture.

JScriv posted...

Just awful. Its insane to me that people can be okay treating other people this way.

As long as they aren't gathering up whites, they support and endorse treating them worse then animals.
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SuperShake666 posted...

JScriv posted...

Just awful. Its insane to me that people can be okay treating other people this way.

As long as they aren't gathering up whites, they support and endorse treating them worse then animals.

One guy made it clear he doesn't care what their race is.
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Republicans were more outraged at GoP politicians being harassed at restaurants then they are about the treatment of kids at these facilities
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Tmaster148 posted...

SuperShake666 posted...

JScriv posted...

Just awful. Its insane to me that people can be okay treating other people this way.

As long as they aren't gathering up whites, they support and endorse treating them worse then animals.

One guy made it clear he doesn't care what their race is.

well i guEss thAt makes it TrUE
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What a world it's come to where kidnapping, prison, and torture of children is just a fair thing for conservatives to support.

Instead of bs wars abroad or idiotic walls, trump should start a war on druglords and crime in Mexico then annex it and give citizenship to all its residents as well as build the place up with their help.

ButteryMales posted...

What a world it's come to where kidnapping, prison, and torture of children is just a fair thing for conservatives to support.

It's the new norm, just like supporting conservative politicians who are proven pedos.
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ButteryMales posted...

What a world it's come to where kidnapping, prison, and torture of children is just a fair thing for conservatives to support.

Well theyve been doing worse abroad for over a decade.

evil_zombie11 posted...

pegusus123456

You can still give some ****s, but what's the Gov't supposed to do? let 'em run rampant?

Oh, I have no idea. The scale of this problem is far beyond me. But hey, guess what? I'm a fucking nobody on a message board, I don't have to have the solution in my back pocket. This isn't some gotcha moment where I'm going to admit that it's okay to keep children in these conditions because I personally can't think of a way to solve the problem. I refuse to admit there is not a happy medium between open borders and dying kids.
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A_A_Battery posted...

ButteryMales posted...

What a world it's come to where kidnapping, prison, and torture of children is just a fair thing for conservatives to support.

Well theyve been doing worse abroad for over a decade.

We shouldn't have any human rights violations in the U.S. How the hell are we supposed to judge the rest of the world for things we won't stop ourselves?

ButteryMales posted...

A_A_Battery posted...

ButteryMales posted...

What a world it's come to where kidnapping, prison, and torture of children is just a fair thing for conservatives to support.

Well theyve been doing worse abroad for over a decade.

We shouldn't have any humam rights violations on the U.S. How the hell are we supposed to judge the rest of the world for things we won't stop ourselves?

No I meant the US has been doing worse abroad for over a decade.

UnfairRepresent posted...

Gobstoppers12 posted...

don't cross the border illegally

That doesn't make this okay dude

Then they should seek asylum elsewhere or fix where they came from. Seriously, we got our own shit to deal with, adding more people doesnt help that.
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tullock posted...

Republicans were more outraged at GoP politicians being harassed at restaurants then they are about the treatment of kids at these facilities

It's a shitty situation, but it's not the fault of border patrol, it's the fault of the people who are overloading the system. And the fault of Congress for keeping laws in place that guarantee these people the right to see a judge before they're deported. It's also congress' fault for the lack of sufficient funding and infrastructure in place to handle this kind of influx of illegal aliens.
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Gobstoppers12 posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

Gobstoppers12 posted...

TheVipaGTS posted...

are you actually arguing that we need to treat the children like this to punish their parents?

No, I'm saying that the enormous number of illegals are causing this problem for themselves by overloading the facilities.

They're stuffing themselves into those cells? Asking to not be given food or soap?

By crossing the border, they're submitting themselves to the system. Too many illegals = not enough room, not enough supplies, not enough manpower.

So the system is broken. You don't get to just throw human rights out the window just because you can't manage a crowd.
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nativengine posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

Gobstoppers12 posted...

don't cross the border illegally

That doesn't make this okay dude

Then they should seek asylum elsewhere or fix where they came from. Seriously, we got our own shit to deal with, adding more people doesnt help that.

That doesn't make it ok.
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nativengine posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

Gobstoppers12 posted...

don't cross the border illegally

That doesn't make this okay dude

Then they should seek asylum elsewhere or fix where they came from. Seriously, we got our own shit to deal with, adding more people doesnt help that.

Weird how you go to bat for the country that you have admitted has treated your people like shit for hundreds of years. Really bizarre sense of fairness and American pride you got there.
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hockeybub89 posted...

So the system is broken. You don't get to just throw human rights out the window just because you can't manage a crowd.

The alternative would be to send them back where they came from immediately rather than giving them the chance to speak to a judge about asylum. We don't have enough judges to handle the cases, and 90% of the time, anybody who gets released on the "good faith" that they'll return for a follow-up hearing just ends up disappearing into the country.

It's a bad situation but it's the fault of multiple sides. The illegals for coming, congress for letting them stay/denying funding/refusing to build necessary infrastructure, and Obama for establishing the 'camps' to begin with.

It's not the border patrol's fault in any of these scenarios.
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nativengine posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

Gobstoppers12 posted...

don't cross the border illegally

That doesn't make this okay dude

Then they should seek asylum elsewhere or fix where they came from. Seriously, we got our own shit to deal with, adding more people doesnt help that.

"Seeking asylum means someone is asking for political protection from another country because they cannot return to their own country. An asylum-seeker must prove they faced persecution in their home country due to race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group or political opinions."

The asylum excuse is just deceptive at this point. These people are just looking to cross.
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Gobstoppers12 posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

So the system is broken. You don't get to just throw human rights out the window just because you can't manage a crowd.

The alternative would be to send them back where they came from immediately rather than giving them the chance to speak to a judge about asylum. We don't have enough judges to handle the cases, and 90% of the time, anybody who gets released on the "good faith" that they'll return for a follow-up hearing just ends up disappearing into the country.

It's a bad situation but it's the fault of multiple sides. The illegals for coming, congress for letting them stay/denying funding/refusing to build necessary infrastructure, and Obama for establishing the 'camps' to begin with.

It's not the border patrol's fault in any of these scenarios.

Shut the fuck up
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Stallion_Prime posted...

Shut the fuck up

I'm not wrong.
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Gobstoppers12 posted...

tullock posted...

Republicans were more outraged at GoP politicians being harassed at restaurants then they are about the treatment of kids at these facilities

It's a shitty situation, but it's not the fault of border patrol, it's the fault of the people who are overloading the system. And the fault of Congress for keeping laws in place that guarantee these people the right to see a judge before they're deported. It's also congress' fault for the lack of sufficient funding and infrastructure in place to handle this kind of influx of illegal aliens.

The Trump administration's no tolerance policy is the problem. What we used to do was let families enter the United States to wait for their immigration hearing. Illegal immigration has always been a non - issue.
How has it ever affected you?

Gobstoppers12 posted...

Stallion_Prime posted...

Shut the fuck up

I'm not wrong.

It's funny you think, even if you're right, that makes it okay to be a horrible person. I'm glad I said what I said to you over a year ago about health care
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ButteryMales posted...

What we used to do was let families enter the United States to wait for their immigration hearing.

And it's been proven that 90% of those people don't come back for their hearing.

ButteryMales posted...

Illegal immigration has always been a non - issue

Say it louder, doesn't make it true my guy
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The Great Muta 22 posted...

It's funny you think, even if you're right, that makes it okay to be a horrible person. I'm glad I said what I said to you over a year ago about health care

Who the fuck are you lmao
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Gobstoppers12 posted...

and 90% of the time, anybody who gets released on the "good faith" that they'll return for a follow-up hearing just ends up disappearing into the country.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/01/us/politics/fact-check-trump-immigration-.html

In the 2017 fiscal year, about 28 percent of immigrants failed to attend their court hearings not the 97 percent Mr. Trump estimated.

Among asylum seekers, only 11 percent did not show up for legal proceedings. Of the asylum seekers who participated in a pilot program tested as an alternative to detention, 99 percent attended Immigration and Custom Enforcement check-ins and appointments. And 100 percent turned up for court hearings.

The Trump administration ended the pilot program last June.

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FursonaNonGrata posted...

Strong border Republicans stay on that little dick shit

Enjoying the fact that we have concentration camps and children are dying in them

Its all a fucking game to them and they love it simply because it makes people sad and scared

Does it bother you that some people ask that other simply follow the law? It's not as if we dont allow people into the country but again you need to follow the law and do it the legal way.
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IMNOTRAGED posted...

Gobstoppers12 posted...

and 90% of the time, anybody who gets released on the "good faith" that they'll return for a follow-up hearing just ends up disappearing into the country.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/01/us/politics/fact-check-trump-immigration-.html

In the 2017 fiscal year, about 28 percent of immigrants failed to attend their court hearings not the 97 percent Mr. Trump estimated.

Among asylum seekers, only 11 percent did not show up for legal proceedings. Of the asylum seekers who participated in a pilot program tested as an alternative to detention, 99 percent attended Immigration and Custom Enforcement check-ins and appointments. And 100 percent turned up for court hearings.

The Trump administration ended the pilot program last June.

How can one guy be so wrong so consistently.
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Gobstoppers12 posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

So the system is broken. You don't get to just throw human rights out the window just because you can't manage a crowd.

The alternative would be to send them back where they came from immediately rather than giving them the chance to speak to a judge about asylum. We don't have enough judges to handle the cases, and 90% of the time, anybody who gets released on the "good faith" that they'll return for a follow-up hearing just ends up disappearing into the country.

It's a bad situation but it's the fault of multiple sides. The illegals for coming, congress for letting them stay/denying funding/refusing to build necessary infrastructure, and Obama for establishing the 'camps' to begin with.

It's not the border patrol's fault in any of these scenarios.

"It's everyone's fault. Democrats, immigrants, everyone."

ICE and border patrol agents are treating people like shit. Again, you don't get to just throw out human rights. You're still ignoring that increased funding did not go to infrastructure and that these human rights violations are more expensive.

But de facto open borders and globalism are bad! What's humans rights when we have the sacredness of an invisible line to protect?

Next you'll say prison guards aren't at fault for abusing inmates and cops aren't at fault for corruption. "If no one broke the law and the darn Democrats gave them funding, then none of this would happen! Not their fault!"
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It almost seems like they're intentionally being cruel to children.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/06/12/politics/trump-admin-ending-women-children-asylum-program/index.html

The program was piloted by the Obama administration after a 2014 crisis in detention centers brought on by a surge of families and unaccompanied minors trying to cross the border with the US.
The move is the latest effort under President Donald Trump to prioritize immigration enforcement and deportations over policies he argues incentivized people trying to come to the US illegally. But critics say it will place an undue burden on traumatized families with legitimate asylum claims.

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DrizztLink posted...

IMNOTRAGED posted...

Gobstoppers12 posted...

and 90% of the time, anybody who gets released on the "good faith" that they'll return for a follow-up hearing just ends up disappearing into the country.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/01/us/politics/fact-check-trump-immigration-.html

In the 2017 fiscal year, about 28 percent of immigrants failed to attend their court hearings not the 97 percent Mr. Trump estimated.

Among asylum seekers, only 11 percent did not show up for legal proceedings. Of the asylum seekers who participated in a pilot program tested as an alternative to detention, 99 percent attended Immigration and Custom Enforcement check-ins and appointments. And 100 percent turned up for court hearings.

The Trump administration ended the pilot program last June.

How can one guy be so wrong so consistently.

Honestly, I thought I would be challenged on this. He's real good about checking Naruto chapters for evidence.
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DrizztLink posted...

IMNOTRAGED posted...

Gobstoppers12 posted...

and 90% of the time, anybody who gets released on the "good faith" that they'll return for a follow-up hearing just ends up disappearing into the country.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/01/us/politics/fact-check-trump-immigration-.html

In the 2017 fiscal year, about 28 percent of immigrants failed to attend their court hearings not the 97 percent Mr. Trump estimated.

Among asylum seekers, only 11 percent did not show up for legal proceedings. Of the asylum seekers who participated in a pilot program tested as an alternative to detention, 99 percent attended Immigration and Custom Enforcement check-ins and appointments. And 100 percent turned up for court hearings.

The Trump administration ended the pilot program last June.

How can one guy be so wrong so consistently.

He's arguing in bad faith and hoping no one will call him out on the half truths
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Its the democrats fault that we dont have a wall. If these people knew they couldnt get in the US, they wouldnt risk their lives to come here and overwhelm the system. They shouldnt even be here and people complain about their conditions like we should have been prepared for thousands of illegals to risk their childrens lives breaking our laws.

DrizztLink posted...

How can one guy be so wrong so consistently.

To be fair, that number does seem to float all over the place based on different stipulations. But nothing I've seen places the rate of no-shows at over ~50%.
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Keith_Valentine posted...

Its the democrats fault that we dont have a wall. If these people knew they couldnt get in the US, they wouldnt risk their lives to come here and overwhelm the system. They shouldnt even be here and people complain about their conditions like we should have been prepared for thousands of illegals to risk their childrens lives breaking our laws.

https://thehill.com/latino/426857-border-patrol-shares-video-showing-migrants-climbing-over-border-wall-with-ladder
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Hairistotle posted...

DrizztLink posted...

How can one guy be so wrong so consistently.

BECAUSE HE'S LYING DUDE

I'm aware of that.
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Gobstopper lying because he's pro torture and extremely anti-immigrants.

Keith_Valentine posted...

Its the democrats fault that we dont have a wall. If these people knew they couldnt get in the US, they wouldnt risk their lives to come here and overwhelm the system. They shouldnt even be here and people complain about their conditions like we should have been prepared for thousands of illegals to risk their childrens lives breaking our laws.

Republicans had two years to get their shit for the wall in order. Blaming this on democrats is pathetically bad trolling
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IMNOTRAGED posted...

DrizztLink posted...

How can one guy be so wrong so consistently.

To be fair, that number does seem to float all over the place based on different stipulations. But nothing I've seen places the rate of no-shows at over ~50%.

The source I'm referring to is this:

https://ijr.com/dhs-secretary-whopping-percentage-migrants-dont-show-hearing/
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Tmaster148 posted...

Keith_Valentine posted...

Its the democrats fault that we dont have a wall. If these people knew they couldnt get in the US, they wouldnt risk their lives to come here and overwhelm the system. They shouldnt even be here and people complain about their conditions like we should have been prepared for thousands of illegals to risk their childrens lives breaking our laws.

https://thehill.com/latino/426857-border-patrol-shares-video-showing-migrants-climbing-over-border-wall-with-ladder

Thats what barbed wire is for.

hockeybub89 posted...

nativengine posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

Gobstoppers12 posted...

don't cross the border illegally

That doesn't make this okay dude

Then they should seek asylum elsewhere or fix where they came from. Seriously, we got our own shit to deal with, adding more people doesnt help that.

Weird how you go to bat for the country that you have admitted has treated your people like shit for hundreds of years. Really bizarre sense of fairness and American pride you got there.

Not really dude. We were treated extremely poorly, to the point of literal genocide. Is it really that bizarre that Id like to keep our borders safe since the last time we had opened borders it didnt work out for us? Im extremely happy to live in a country where I can literally hunt and fish for my own food and keep to myself on 40 acres of land. I absolutely accept a screening process to be a citizen here.
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