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MrDrMan
07/15/19 3:52:25 PM
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Have you guys taken a history course? Do I need to explain to you how European settlers obtained this land?

Stop this witch hunt on illegal immigrants.
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PrettyBoyFloyd
07/15/19 3:57:59 PM
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Well it's like where did the current inhabitants at that time come from ?

I'm sure they didn't grow out of the ground.

Hell... where does anyone really come from ?

Anyway nothing is gained without taking it from someone else.

Gotta step on and over people or you'll be the one getting stepped on and over.
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Paper_Okami
07/15/19 3:58:23 PM
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americans stole the land
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Ivynn
07/15/19 4:03:04 PM
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Paper_Okami posted...
americans stole the land

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s0nicfan
07/15/19 4:06:56 PM
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This will never be a good line of reasoning.

"Hey, remember when Europeans overwhelmed and killed all the natives? That's why you should support illegal immigration!"

Like... you realize in that metaphor the current residents of said country ARE the natives, right?
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DevsBro
07/15/19 4:09:13 PM
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As I recall the natives were bitter too.
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Jaded_Dragon
07/15/19 4:09:37 PM
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PrettyBoyFloyd posted...
Hell... where does anyone really come from ?


Africa.
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PrettyBoyFloyd
07/15/19 4:10:54 PM
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They didn't want to progress either.

Stick to the old ways.
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PrettyBoyFloyd
07/15/19 4:11:47 PM
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Jaded_Dragon posted...
PrettyBoyFloyd posted...
Hell... where does anyone really come from ?


Africa.

Then where did Africans come from ?
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Jaded_Dragon
07/15/19 4:11:59 PM
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PrettyBoyFloyd posted...
Jaded_Dragon posted...
PrettyBoyFloyd posted...
Hell... where does anyone really come from ?


Africa.

Then where did Africans come from ?


Apes

1vrfhCn
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MrDrMan
07/15/19 4:13:45 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
This will never be a good line of reasoning.

"Hey, remember when Europeans overwhelmed and killed all the natives? That's why you should support illegal immigration!"

Like... you realize in that metaphor the current residents of said country ARE the natives, right?


I never said support illegal immigration. I said stop the witch hunt of illegal immigrants.

I believe people should use legal means. However, I dont think if they do so illegally they should be treated so poorly. This detention shit camp is ridiculous. ICE raids and the lengths they are going are just unacceptable.
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iPhone_7
07/15/19 4:16:05 PM
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Stop complaining about illegal immigration. This is stolen land.


Whats the response to the Native Americans saying youre so right this land is stolen, so you and the illegals GTFO

No U you xenophobe. Build bridges, not walls. Open borders, not closed
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Gamerguymass
07/15/19 5:13:48 PM
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MrDrMan posted...
s0nicfan posted...
This will never be a good line of reasoning.

"Hey, remember when Europeans overwhelmed and killed all the natives? That's why you should support illegal immigration!"

Like... you realize in that metaphor the current residents of said country ARE the natives, right?


I never said support illegal immigration. I said stop the witch hunt of illegal immigrants.

I believe people should use legal means. However, I dont think if they do so illegally they should be treated so poorly. This detention shit camp is ridiculous. ICE raids and the lengths they are going are just unacceptable.


So what do we do with them? Yes the camps suck, but we can't exactly just let tens of thousands of people go. Then we will have triple that number coming here.
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viewmaster_pi
07/15/19 5:15:13 PM
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Jaded_Dragon posted...
PrettyBoyFloyd posted...
Hell... where does anyone really come from ?


Africa.

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Unsugarized_Foo
07/15/19 5:20:36 PM
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I'm native af
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ArchiePeck
07/15/19 5:24:51 PM
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I mean, yeah if you're a white American then you are descended from people who "came to the land not speaking the language" LOL
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ROBANN_88
07/15/19 5:27:13 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
This will never be a good line of reasoning.

"Hey, remember when Europeans overwhelmed and killed all the natives? That's why you should support illegal immigration!"

Like... you realize in that metaphor the current residents of said country ARE the natives, right?


hell, if anything it's a cautionary tale:
"let immigrants come in all willy nilly and you'll end up being pushed into reservations, and your culture destroyed, it happened before, it could happen again"

i'm not saying that sentiment is accurate to the current situation, it would be silly if anyone said that seriously.
but it is the natural progression when you bring in the native americans in an immigration debate
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RickyTheBAWSE
07/15/19 5:28:25 PM
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PrettyBoyFloyd posted...
Jaded_Dragon posted...
PrettyBoyFloyd posted...
Hell... where does anyone really come from ?


Africa.

Then where did Africans come from ?


God.
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Unsugarized_Foo
07/15/19 5:38:40 PM
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RickyTheBAWSE posted...
PrettyBoyFloyd posted...
Jaded_Dragon posted...
PrettyBoyFloyd posted...
Hell... where does anyone really come from ?


Africa.

Then where did Africans come from ?


God.


Don't be silly, that's earlier, it's Pangea then God
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MakoReizei
07/16/19 9:23:16 AM
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Paper_Okami posted...
americans stole the land

not true.
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Balrog0
07/16/19 9:26:57 AM
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my ancestors came here on the mayflower and fought in washington's army this land is mine by right of conquest

i think some people really feel this way
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MrDrMan
07/16/19 10:26:26 AM
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Balrog0 posted...
my ancestors came here on the mayflower and fought in washington's army this land is mine by right of conquest

i think some people really feel this way


Of course. Look at this post:

PrettyBoyFloyd posted...
Well it's like where did the current inhabitants at that time come from ?

I'm sure they didn't grow out of the ground.

Hell... where does anyone really come from ?

Anyway nothing is gained without taking it from someone else.

Gotta step on and over people or you'll be the one getting stepped on and over.

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Knowledge_King
07/16/19 11:01:47 AM
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Yeah and to avoid it from being stolen again...
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Shablagoo
07/16/19 11:04:10 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
This will never be a good line of reasoning.

"Hey, remember when Europeans overwhelmed and killed all the natives? That's why you should support illegal immigration!"

Like... you realize in that metaphor the current residents of said country ARE the natives, right?

The better argument is more recent immigration, like within the last hundred years or so like our presidents grandfather for instance.
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Broseph_Stalin
07/16/19 11:05:13 AM
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MakoReizei posted...
Paper_Okami posted...
americans stole the land

not true.

americans stole the land
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MrDrMan
07/16/19 1:23:16 PM
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Knowledge_King posted...
Yeah and to avoid it from being stolen again...


Yes because a bunch of illegal immigrants really would have a chance against the US military.

Come on now.
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nemu
07/16/19 1:24:43 PM
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The past needs to be the past sometime. Outside of very specific circumstances, anyone who brings that up as an argument has no argument.
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Bad_Mojo
07/16/19 1:28:41 PM
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I like how it's ever Americans that "Stole" land. No one else ever in history has expanded their boarders by conquest. Wars for land have been fought since the dawn of man. Whey is it only bad with the US?

Any Country is welcome to try and take it from us
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MuayThai85
07/16/19 1:30:26 PM
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North America was taken via conquest as were most countries. Nothing was stolen.
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Phantom_Nook
07/16/19 1:32:00 PM
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why do people against illegal immigration never complain about the people that hire them?

spoilers: they don't want to hold rich people, including their cult leader, accountable for anything. it's all about demonizing poor brown people.
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Ivynn
07/16/19 1:35:56 PM
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americans stole the land
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ButteryMales
07/16/19 1:45:15 PM
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MuayThai85 posted...
North America was taken via conquest as were most countries.

Stolen is a synonym for taken.

"North America was stolen via conquest as we're most countries." means the exact same thing.
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tennisdude818
07/16/19 1:48:14 PM
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Whelp that settles it. Time to make the USA like Central America.
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ButteryMales
07/16/19 1:53:30 PM
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tennisdude818 posted...
Whelp that settles it. Time to make the USA like Central America.

How would that happen?
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Questionmarktarius
07/16/19 1:56:18 PM
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DevsBro posted...
As I recall the natives were bitter too.

The natives had open borders. Look how that turned out.
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Bloodychess
07/16/19 2:08:05 PM
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CrimsonRage posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
DevsBro posted...
As I recall the natives were bitter too.

The natives had open borders. Look how that turned out.


natives didn't even have the concept of borders

Look how that turned out
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Thatuser
07/16/19 2:10:26 PM
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Sure, our ancestors came here and forced the native inhabitants into less desirable areas, killing many in the process. If any of these waves of immigrants is capable of such a feat, have at it?

This is a joke post
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gatorsPENSbucs
07/16/19 2:11:17 PM
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Was it in the last like 100 years? Or 200 years?

Who gives a shit anymore, some of y'all need to stop living in the past.
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RickyTheBAWSE
07/16/19 2:13:05 PM
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ButteryMales posted...
MuayThai85 posted...
North America was taken via conquest as were most countries.

Stolen is a synonym for taken.

"North America was stolen via conquest as we're most countries." means the exact same thing.


the mindset of the Colonist. I just wish more were up front like that instead of hiding.
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Annihilated
07/16/19 2:13:41 PM
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MrDrMan posted...
Have you guys taken a history course? Do I need to explain to you how European settlers obtained this land?

Stop this witch hunt on illegal immigrants.


Exactly. Just look at the Native Americans, they're fine now! Nothing bad ever happened to them.
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Annihilated
07/16/19 2:16:11 PM
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CrimsonRage posted...
Annihilated posted...
MrDrMan posted...
Have you guys taken a history course? Do I need to explain to you how European settlers obtained this land?

Stop this witch hunt on illegal immigrants.


Exactly. Just look at the Native Americans, they're fine now! Nothing bad ever happened to them.


"brown people will come here, massacre us and kill the rest of us with disease. that's why we need concentration camps."

is this the logic here?


It's your logic, sure.
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Kensaimage
07/16/19 2:16:20 PM
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Bloodychess posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
DevsBro posted...
As I recall the natives were bitter too.

The natives had open borders. Look how that turned out.


natives didn't even have the concept of borders

Look how that turned out


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Thunder_Dogg
07/16/19 2:16:56 PM
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You know you've been riding a fucked up wave when your greatest fear is karma, lol.

Delaying the inevitable will only make it hurt more in the end.
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ButteryMales
07/16/19 2:20:02 PM
#48:


CrimsonRage posted...
Annihilated posted...
MrDrMan posted...
Have you guys taken a history course? Do I need to explain to you how European settlers obtained this land?

Stop this witch hunt on illegal immigrants.


Exactly. Just look at the Native Americans, they're fine now! Nothing bad ever happened to them.


"brown people will come here, massacre us and kill the rest of us with disease. that's why we need concentration camps."

is this the logic here?

Yes, that's Annihilated's logic.
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Philosopher_X
07/16/19 2:20:05 PM
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Our foreign policy aint much different.

"Don't give them an opportunity to do to us what we've always done to others!"

That's why America is afraid of nukes, lol. "Only WE can have them!"
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ROBANN_88
07/16/19 2:20:11 PM
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Thunder_Dogg posted...
You know you've been riding a fucked up wave when your greatest fear is karma, lol.

Delaying the inevitable will only make it hurt more in the end.


"accept illegal immigrants now or they will hurt you more later, their wrath will only grow"

is that what you're saying?
i really don't think i understand you
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