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Rob Cesternino 07/15/19 8:51:03 PM #1:	https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-end-asylum-at-us-mexico-border-2019-7 WASHINGTON (AP) Reversing decades of US policy, the Trump administration said Monday it will end all asylum protections for most migrants who arrive at the US-Mexico border the president's most forceful attempt yet to block asylum claims and slash the number of people seeking refuge in America. The new rule, expected to go into effect Tuesday, would cover countless would-be refugees, many of them fleeing violence and poverty in Central America. It is certain to face legal challenges. According to the plan published in the Federal Register, migrants who pass through another country in this case, Mexico on their way to the US will be ineligible for asylum. The rule also applies to children who have crossed the border alone. The vast majority of people affected by the rule are from Central America. But sometimes migrants from Africa, Cuba or Haiti and other countries try to come through the US-Mexico border, as well. --- Stop asking me if I'm Jessica Simpson. Jewish girls Survivor is the greatest show EVER. are hawt <cite>Rob Cesternino posted [p:924738594] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote>https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-end-asylum-at-us-mexico-border-2019-7 <quote>WASHINGTON (AP) Reversing decades of US policy, the Trump administration said Monday it will end all asylum protections for most migrants who arrive at the US-Mexico border the president's most forceful attempt yet to block asylum claims and slash the number of people seeking refuge in America. The new rule, expected to go into effect Tuesday, would cover countless would-be refugees, many of them fleeing violence and poverty in Central America. It is certain to face legal challenges. According to the plan published in the Federal Register, migrants who pass through another country in this case, Mexico on their way to the US will be ineligible for asylum. The rule also applies to children who have crossed the border alone. The vast majority of people affected by the rule are from Central America. But sometimes migrants from Africa, Cuba or Haiti and other countries try to come through the US-Mexico border, as well.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE FOSTER 07/15/19 8:51:33 PM #2:	--- https://imgtc.com/i/HXEuaL9.jpg https://imgtc.com/i/xZ5hGDm.jpg https://imgtc.com/i/UZiqG9l.jpg https://imgtc.ws/i/gEfkzml.gif <cite>CADE FOSTER posted [p:924738622] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 07/15/19 8:52:30 PM #3:	How the hell do you just ignore international law? --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:924738665] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote>How the hell do you just ignore international law?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CarrieChan 07/15/19 8:53:32 PM #4:	Gotta stop those queue jumpers eh. <cite>CarrieChan posted [p:924738727] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote>Gotta stop those queue jumpers eh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 07/15/19 8:53:53 PM #5:	CADE FOSTER posted... I am not a Know-Nothing. That is certain. How could I be? How can any one who abhors the oppression of negroes, be in favor of degrading classes of white people? Our progress in degeneracy appears to me to be pretty rapid. As a nation, we begin by declaring that "all men are created equal." We now practically read it "all men are created equal, except negroes." When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read "all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and catholics." When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretence of loving liberty-to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocracy. ~ Abraham Lincoln --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:924738745] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>CADE FOSTER posted...</cite> <quote></quote> <quote>I am not a Know-Nothing. That is certain. How could I be? How can any one who abhors the oppression of negroes, be in favor of degrading classes of white people? Our progress in degeneracy appears to me to be pretty rapid. As a nation, we begin by declaring that "all men are created equal." We now practically read it "all men are created equal, except negroes." When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read "all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and catholics." When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretence of loving liberty-to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocracy.</quote> ~ Abraham Lincoln</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mattnd2007 07/15/19 8:55:40 PM #6:	Surely this will go well. Surely --- Show me a man who resorts to violence and I'll show you a man who's run out of good ideas Phil Funnie <cite>mattnd2007 posted [p:924738856] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote>Surely this will go well. Surely</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prismsblade 07/15/19 8:58:09 PM #7:	I'm actually surprised he didnt try this earlier fo fight off the detention camps fiasco. --- 3DS FC:3368-5403-9633 Name: Kaizer PSN: Blackkaizer <cite>Prismsblade posted [p:924738972] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote>I'm actually surprised he didnt try this earlier fo fight off the detention camps fiasco.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
0xDEFECADE 07/15/19 8:58:30 PM #8:	CADE FOSTER posted... he's just tough on immigration! --- 1101 1110 1111 1110 1100 1010 1101 1110 one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>0xDEFECADE posted [p:924738991] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>CADE FOSTER posted...</cite> <quote></quote> he's just tough on immigration!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 07/15/19 8:58:51 PM #9:	So much for the "Land of Opportunity". The usual suspects will defend this, no need to bother with them. Just remember this when it comes time to vote. --- This is a mobile account, forgive any errors. ~DYL~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTEX3YdEi7s <cite>Umbreon posted [p:924739011] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote>So much for the "Land of Opportunity". The usual suspects will defend this, no need to bother with them. Just remember this when it comes time to vote.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE FOSTER 07/15/19 8:59:54 PM #10:	federal courts gonna have a field day with this --- https://imgtc.com/i/HXEuaL9.jpg https://imgtc.com/i/xZ5hGDm.jpg https://imgtc.com/i/UZiqG9l.jpg https://imgtc.ws/i/gEfkzml.gif <cite>CADE FOSTER posted [p:924739066] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote>federal courts gonna have a field day with this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Evening_Dragon 07/15/19 9:01:27 PM #11:	That he tried this is a good thing, in the long run. It establishes what a president should never be. In the history books, he'll be bad chapter of the American section. --- I exist, kind of. Two halves that don't make a whole. Guide, it's Guide, it's that Guide <cite>Evening_Dragon posted [p:924739158] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote>That he tried this is a good thing, in the long run. It establishes what a president should never be. In the history books, he'll be bad chapter of the American section.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
justaguy3492 07/15/19 9:02:22 PM #12:	The asylum seeking process does need to be reworked, it's pretty broken as is. However, completely shutting it down is an awful idea. --- Gt: justaguy3492 <cite>justaguy3492 posted [p:924739218] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote>The asylum seeking process does need to be reworked, it's pretty broken as is. However, completely shutting it down is an awful idea.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 07/15/19 9:02:41 PM #13:	Evening_Dragon posted... That he tried this is a good thing, in the long run. It establishes what a president should never be. In the history books, he'll be bad chapter of the American section. I don't think we needed someone to demonstrate that for us. Sort of like how we don't need someone to drown a baby in a barrel at a county fair - it's kind of unanimously understood that that is something that should never happen. --- FFXIV: Herzog Erislieb (Cactaur) \| RS3: UltimaSuende . 99 WC/Fish/Cook/Fletch/Div <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:924739232] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>Evening_Dragon posted...</cite> <quote>That he tried this is a good thing, in the long run. It establishes what a president should never be. In the history books, he'll be bad chapter of the American section.</quote> I don't think we needed someone to demonstrate that for us. Sort of like how we don't need someone to drown a baby in a barrel at a county fair - it's kind of unanimously understood that that is something that should never happen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TreyFlowers 07/15/19 9:04:53 PM #14:	It's not illegal to seek asylum. --- PATRIOTS Tom Brady objectively has six rings. <cite>TreyFlowers posted [p:924739348] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote>It's not illegal to seek asylum.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 07/15/19 9:06:12 PM #15:	TreyFlowers posted... It's not illegal to seek asylum. It is now --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:924739423] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>TreyFlowers posted...</cite> <quote>It's not illegal to seek asylum.</quote> It is now</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 07/15/19 9:06:53 PM #16:	I love how much the morally bankrupt evangelical community supports this guy. Everything he does literally flies in the face of Christ's teachings. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:924739465] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote>I love how much the morally bankrupt evangelical community supports this guy. Everything he does literally flies in the face of Christ's teachings.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BLAKUboy 07/15/19 9:07:16 PM #17:	This will get struck down incredibly quick. --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera https://signavatar.com/26999_s.png <cite>BLAKUboy posted [p:924739490] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote>This will get struck down incredibly quick.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE FOSTER 07/15/19 9:07:43 PM #18:	ScazarMeltex posted... I love how much the morally bankrupt evangelical community supports this guy. Everything he does literally flies in the face of Christ's teachings. They are hypocrites but he gives them a voice that they always wanted --- https://imgtc.com/i/HXEuaL9.jpg https://imgtc.com/i/xZ5hGDm.jpg https://imgtc.com/i/UZiqG9l.jpg https://imgtc.ws/i/gEfkzml.gif <cite>CADE FOSTER posted [p:924739514] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>ScazarMeltex posted...</cite> <quote>I love how much the morally bankrupt evangelical community supports this guy. Everything he does literally flies in the face of Christ's teachings.</quote> They are hypocrites but he gives them a voice that they always wanted</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hop103 07/15/19 9:12:58 PM #19:	TreyFlowers posted... It's not illegal to seek asylum. Yes, but the people trying to get in at the southern border are economic migrants not asylum seekers. Asylum seekers are usually from Africa or the Middle East and come via UN channels. --- "In the name of the future moon I shall punish you"-Chibi Moon <cite>Hop103 posted [p:924739756] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>TreyFlowers posted...</cite> <quote>It's not illegal to seek asylum.</quote> Yes, but the people trying to get in at the southern border are economic migrants not asylum seekers. Asylum seekers are usually from Africa or the Middle East and come via UN channels.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 07/15/19 9:44:17 PM #21:	Hop103 posted... TreyFlowers posted... It's not illegal to seek asylum. Yes, but the people trying to get in at the southern border are economic migrants not asylum seekers. Asylum seekers are usually from Africa or the Middle East and come via UN channels. The crime in central America South of Mexico all the way down to Venezuela is so bad it's called War-like conditions by the UN. They are not migrating because they're poor they're migrating because they're worried they could have their entire family raped and murdered because some other people want to eat their dog. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:924741127] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hop103 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TreyFlowers posted...</cite> <quote>It's not illegal to seek asylum.</quote> Yes, but the people trying to get in at the southern border are economic migrants not asylum seekers. Asylum seekers are usually from Africa or the Middle East and come via UN channels.</quote> The crime in central America South of Mexico all the way down to Venezuela is so bad it's called War-like conditions by the UN. They are not migrating because they're poor they're migrating because they're worried they could have their entire family raped and murdered because some other people want to eat their dog.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 07/15/19 9:47:11 PM #22:	Tyranthraxus posted... How the hell do you just ignore international law? From another topic: s0nicfan posted... UnfairRepresent posted... The new rule, published in the Federal Register, would require most migrants entering through Americas southern border to first seek asylum in one of the countries they traversed whether in Mexico, in Central America, or elsewhere on their journey. In most cases, only if that application is denied would they then be able to seek asylum in the United States.' Most of Europe already follows this rule: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dublin_Regulation Usually, the responsible Member State will be the state through which the asylum seeker first entered the EU. And Canada holds the US to the exact same rule: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada%E2%80%93United_States_Safe_Third_Country_Agreement Under the agreement persons seeking refugee status must make their claim in the first country they arrive in, either the United States or Canada, unless they qualify for an exception. For example, refugee claimants who are citizens of a country other than the United States that arrive from the United States at the CanadaUnited States land border can only pursue their refugee claims in Canada if they meet an exception under the Safe Third Country Agreement. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:924741259] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote>How the hell do you just ignore international law?</quote> From another topic: <cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>The new rule, published in the Federal Register, would require most migrants entering through Americas southern border to first seek asylum in one of the countries they traversed whether in Mexico, in Central America, or elsewhere on their journey. In most cases, only if that application is denied would they then be able to seek asylum in the United States.'</quote> Most of Europe already follows this rule: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dublin_Regulation <quote>Usually, the responsible Member State will be the state through which the asylum seeker first entered the EU.</quote> And Canada holds the US to the exact same rule: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada%E2%80%93United_States_Safe_Third_Country_Agreement <quote>Under the agreement persons seeking refugee status must make their claim in the first country they arrive in, either the United States or Canada, unless they qualify for an exception. For example, refugee claimants who are citizens of a country other than the United States that arrive from the United States at the CanadaUnited States land border can only pursue their refugee claims in Canada if they meet an exception under the Safe Third Country Agreement.</quote></quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hop103 07/15/19 9:51:47 PM #23:	Tyranthraxus posted... Hop103 posted... TreyFlowers posted... It's not illegal to seek asylum. Yes, but the people trying to get in at the southern border are economic migrants not asylum seekers. Asylum seekers are usually from Africa or the Middle East and come via UN channels. The crime in central America South of Mexico all the way down to Venezuela is so bad it's called War-like conditions by the UN. They are not migrating because they're poor they're migrating because they're worried they could have their entire family raped and murdered because some other people want to eat their dog. They can fix that, it's not like Africa and the Middle East where in many places it's so bad, that it's ridiculously difficult to even try to fix. --- "In the name of the future moon I shall punish you"-Chibi Moon <cite>Hop103 posted [p:924741494] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hop103 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TreyFlowers posted...</cite> <quote>It's not illegal to seek asylum.</quote> Yes, but the people trying to get in at the southern border are economic migrants not asylum seekers. Asylum seekers are usually from Africa or the Middle East and come via UN channels.</quote> The crime in central America South of Mexico all the way down to Venezuela is so bad it's called War-like conditions by the UN. They are not migrating because they're poor they're migrating because they're worried they could have their entire family raped and murdered because some other people want to eat their dog.</quote> They can fix that, it's not like Africa and the Middle East where in many places it's so bad, that it's ridiculously difficult to even try to fix.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 07/15/19 9:52:28 PM #24:	Umbreon posted... So much for the "Land of Opportunity". That has never equated to "everyone just mosey on in here!" It's still there for anyone who goes through the proper channels. --- Oda break tracker 2019- 4 (3) \| THE Ohio State: 13-1 \| Oakland Raiders: 4-12 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:924741534] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>Umbreon posted...</cite> <quote>So much for the "Land of Opportunity".</quote> That has never equated to "everyone just mosey on in here!" It's still there for anyone who goes through the proper channels.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
evil_zombie11 07/15/19 9:56:41 PM #25:	I don't get why people on this board want to turn the US into a third world country by inviting all these people in but whatever. --- Well, what do you expect? I'm an evil zombie... https://imgur.com/Iqo9r37 <--- Me, I'm this guy. <cite>evil_zombie11 posted [p:924741710] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote>I don't get why people on this board want to turn the US into a third world country by inviting all these people in but whatever.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 07/15/19 9:59:10 PM #26:	voldothegr8 posted... Umbreon posted... So much for the "Land of Opportunity". That has never equated to "everyone just mosey on in here!" It's still there for anyone who goes through the proper channels. As Trump has stated it is not --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. <cite>Irony posted [p:924741815] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Umbreon posted...</cite> <quote>So much for the "Land of Opportunity".</quote> That has never equated to "everyone just mosey on in here!" It's still there for anyone who goes through the proper channels.</quote> As Trump has stated it is not</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Broseph_Stalin 07/15/19 10:01:55 PM #28:	voldothegr8 posted... It's still there for anyone who goes through the proper channels. You mean like applying for asylum at a port of entry? <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:924741920] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote>It's still there for anyone who goes through the proper channels.</quote> You mean like applying for asylum at a port of entry?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 07/15/19 10:03:08 PM #29:	evil_zombie11 posted... I don't get why people on this board want to turn the US into a third world country by inviting all these people in but whatever. The US is filled with people like you and it does just fine <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:924741964] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>evil_zombie11 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't get why people on this board want to turn the US into a third world country by inviting all these people in but whatever.</quote> The US is filled with people like you and it does just fine</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
-Unowninator- 07/15/19 10:03:38 PM #30:	Ughhh, I am so sick of hearing about this evil man. --- ''25 posts in and no one has addressed the orignal question. Also, I'm continuing that streak :P'' ~ Lord_Zenki Join the unknown: http://goo.gl/S75cmn <cite>-Unowninator- posted [p:924741981] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote>Ughhh, I am so sick of hearing about this evil man.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterpug53 07/15/19 10:04:13 PM #31:	voldothegr8 posted... Umbreon posted... So much for the "Land of Opportunity". That has never equated to "everyone just mosey on in here!" It's still there for anyone who goes through the proper channels. You may have noticed that the 'proper channels' just got a hell of a lot narrower. --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read. <cite>masterpug53 posted [p:924742011] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Umbreon posted...</cite> <quote>So much for the "Land of Opportunity".</quote> That has never equated to "everyone just mosey on in here!" It's still there for anyone who goes through the proper channels.</quote> You may have noticed that the 'proper channels' just got a hell of a lot narrower.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Ivory_Man 07/15/19 10:04:48 PM #32:	So to be clear Mexicans can still apply for Asylum at the US-Mexico border? Why do people hate this idea so much? --- "Just because someone is killed doesn't mean they died" - Shojikan <cite>The_Ivory_Man posted [p:924742045] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote>So to be clear Mexicans can still apply for Asylum at the US-Mexico border? Why do people hate this idea so much?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sktgamer_13dude 07/15/19 10:08:00 PM #33:	Hop103 posted... TreyFlowers posted... It's not illegal to seek asylum. Yes, but the people trying to get in at the southern border are economic migrants not asylum seekers. Asylum seekers are usually from Africa or the Middle East and come via UN channels. Source please. --- https://imgur.com/jWVrg9U https://imgur.com/g2efUtT https://imgur.com/5dOwhaP https://imgur.com/LVdqu8J Go Cougs and M's #DI4B <cite>sktgamer_13dude posted [p:924742190] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hop103 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TreyFlowers posted...</cite> <quote>It's not illegal to seek asylum.</quote> Yes, but the people trying to get in at the southern border are economic migrants not asylum seekers. Asylum seekers are usually from Africa or the Middle East and come via UN channels.</quote> Source please.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 07/15/19 10:16:37 PM #34:	masterpug53 posted... voldothegr8 posted... Umbreon posted... So much for the "Land of Opportunity". That has never equated to "everyone just mosey on in here!" It's still there for anyone who goes through the proper channels. You may have noticed that the 'proper channels' just got a hell of a lot narrower. The same width of both the EU and Canada's channels, oddly enough. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:924742595] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>masterpug53 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Umbreon posted...</cite> <quote>So much for the "Land of Opportunity".</quote> That has never equated to "everyone just mosey on in here!" It's still there for anyone who goes through the proper channels.</quote> You may have noticed that the 'proper channels' just got a hell of a lot narrower.</quote> The same width of both the EU and Canada's channels, oddly enough.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 07/15/19 10:17:06 PM #35:	s0nicfan posted... masterpug53 posted... voldothegr8 posted... Umbreon posted... So much for the "Land of Opportunity". That has never equated to "everyone just mosey on in here!" It's still there for anyone who goes through the proper channels. You may have noticed that the 'proper channels' just got a hell of a lot narrower. The same width of both the EU and Canada's channels, oddly enough. Lol no --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. <cite>Irony posted [p:924742615] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>masterpug53 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Umbreon posted...</cite> <quote>So much for the "Land of Opportunity".</quote> That has never equated to "everyone just mosey on in here!" It's still there for anyone who goes through the proper channels.</quote> You may have noticed that the 'proper channels' just got a hell of a lot narrower.</quote> The same width of both the EU and Canada's channels, oddly enough.</quote> Lol no</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 07/15/19 10:18:15 PM #36:	Irony posted... Lol no Keep up: s0nicfan posted... Tyranthraxus posted... How the hell do you just ignore international law? From another topic: s0nicfan posted... UnfairRepresent posted... The new rule, published in the Federal Register, would require most migrants entering through Americas southern border to first seek asylum in one of the countries they traversed whether in Mexico, in Central America, or elsewhere on their journey. In most cases, only if that application is denied would they then be able to seek asylum in the United States.' Most of Europe already follows this rule: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dublin_Regulation Usually, the responsible Member State will be the state through which the asylum seeker first entered the EU. And Canada holds the US to the exact same rule: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada%E2%80%93United_States_Safe_Third_Country_Agreement Under the agreement persons seeking refugee status must make their claim in the first country they arrive in, either the United States or Canada, unless they qualify for an exception. For example, refugee claimants who are citizens of a country other than the United States that arrive from the United States at the CanadaUnited States land border can only pursue their refugee claims in Canada if they meet an exception under the Safe Third Country Agreement. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:924742666] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>Irony posted...</cite> <quote>Lol no</quote> Keep up: <cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote>How the hell do you just ignore international law?</quote> From another topic: <cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>The new rule, published in the Federal Register, would require most migrants entering through Americas southern border to first seek asylum in one of the countries they traversed whether in Mexico, in Central America, or elsewhere on their journey. In most cases, only if that application is denied would they then be able to seek asylum in the United States.'</quote> Most of Europe already follows this rule: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dublin_Regulation <quote>Usually, the responsible Member State will be the state through which the asylum seeker first entered the EU.</quote> And Canada holds the US to the exact same rule: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada%E2%80%93United_States_Safe_Third_Country_Agreement <quote>Under the agreement persons seeking refugee status must make their claim in the first country they arrive in, either the United States or Canada, unless they qualify for an exception. For example, refugee claimants who are citizens of a country other than the United States that arrive from the United States at the CanadaUnited States land border can only pursue their refugee claims in Canada if they meet an exception under the Safe Third Country Agreement.</quote></quote></quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 07/15/19 10:18:55 PM #37:	You must have glossed over everything with Syria --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. <cite>Irony posted [p:924742694] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote>You must have glossed over everything with Syria</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingStopMaster 07/15/19 10:20:51 PM #38:	This would have happened eventually. <cite>WingStopMaster posted [p:924742775] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote>This would have happened eventually.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EnragedSlith 07/15/19 10:22:03 PM #39:	Fuck that cheeto --- ultimate milf hunter https://imgur.com/lCEdce6 https://imgur.com/2N1Ezia https://imgur.com/ukJ6sPJ https://youtu.be/IDYaHvDiTr4 <cite>EnragedSlith posted [p:924742817] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote>Fuck that cheeto</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BaiusGaltar 07/15/19 10:26:54 PM #40:	s0nicfan posted... Tyranthraxus posted... How the hell do you just ignore international law? From another topic: @s0nicfan posted... UnfairRepresent posted... The new rule, published in the Federal Register, would require most migrants entering through Americas southern border to first seek asylum in one of the countries they traversed whether in Mexico, in Central America, or elsewhere on their journey. In most cases, only if that application is denied would they then be able to seek asylum in the United States.' Most of Europe already follows this rule: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dublin_Regulation Usually, the responsible Member State will be the state through which the asylum seeker first entered the EU. And Canada holds the US to the exact same rule: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada%E2%80%93United_States_Safe_Third_Country_Agreement Under the agreement persons seeking refugee status must make their claim in the first country they arrive in, either the United States or Canada, unless they qualify for an exception. For example, refugee claimants who are citizens of a country other than the United States that arrive from the United States at the CanadaUnited States land border can only pursue their refugee claims in Canada if they meet an exception under the Safe Third Country Agreement. First EUROPEAN country. United States OR Canada. These laws function completely differently, with different aims. They are between states that have agreed to help, and share the load. What this law does is just stop them from seeking asylum. Now, they'll only be able to take refuge in countries that are just as bad and have the same problems that they're fleeing from. Not the same, at all. --- Previously, on Gattelstar Balactica... <cite>BaiusGaltar posted [p:924743029] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote>How the hell do you just ignore international law?</quote> From another topic: <cite>@s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>The new rule, published in the Federal Register, would require most migrants entering through Americas southern border to first seek asylum in one of the countries they traversed whether in Mexico, in Central America, or elsewhere on their journey. In most cases, only if that application is denied would they then be able to seek asylum in the United States.'</quote> Most of Europe already follows this rule: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dublin_Regulation <quote>Usually, the responsible Member State will be the state through which the asylum seeker first entered the EU.</quote> And Canada holds the US to the exact same rule: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada%E2%80%93United_States_Safe_Third_Country_Agreement <quote>Under the agreement persons seeking refugee status must make their claim in the first country they arrive in, either the United States or Canada, unless they qualify for an exception. For example, refugee claimants who are citizens of a country other than the United States that arrive from the United States at the CanadaUnited States land border can only pursue their refugee claims in Canada if they meet an exception under the Safe Third Country Agreement.</quote></quote></quote> First EUROPEAN country. United States OR Canada. These laws function completely differently, with different aims. They are between states that have agreed to help, and share the load. What this law does is just stop them from seeking asylum. Now, they'll only be able to take refuge in countries that are just as bad and have the same problems that they're fleeing from. Not the same, at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 07/15/19 10:29:02 PM #41:	BaiusGaltar posted... First EUROPEAN country. United States OR Canada. These laws function completely differently, with different aims. They are between states that have agreed to help, and share the load. What this law does is just stop them from seeking asylum. Now, they'll only be able to take refuge in countries that are just as bad and have the same problems that they're fleeing from. Not the same, at all. Are you saying literally every south and central American country is as bad or worse as Venezuela? Do you even realize how unbelievably racist that is? --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:924743135] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>BaiusGaltar posted...</cite> <quote>First EUROPEAN country. United States OR Canada. These laws function completely differently, with different aims. They are between states that have agreed to help, and share the load. What this law does is just stop them from seeking asylum. Now, they'll only be able to take refuge in countries that are just as bad and have the same problems that they're fleeing from. Not the same, at all.</quote> Are you saying literally every south and central American country is as bad or worse as Venezuela? Do you even realize how unbelievably racist that is?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BaiusGaltar 07/15/19 10:30:22 PM #42:	s0nicfan posted... BaiusGaltar posted... First EUROPEAN country. United States OR Canada. These laws function completely differently, with different aims. They are between states that have agreed to help, and share the load. What this law does is just stop them from seeking asylum. Now, they'll only be able to take refuge in countries that are just as bad and have the same problems that they're fleeing from. Not the same, at all. Are you saying literally every south and central American country is as bad or worse as Venezuela? Do you even realize how unbelievably racist that is? You sure got me, bro. Fact is, the laws are completely different, and to compare them to what trump is doing is intellectually dishonest. --- Previously, on Gattelstar Balactica... <cite>BaiusGaltar posted [p:924743198] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BaiusGaltar posted...</cite> <quote>First EUROPEAN country. United States OR Canada. These laws function completely differently, with different aims. They are between states that have agreed to help, and share the load. What this law does is just stop them from seeking asylum. Now, they'll only be able to take refuge in countries that are just as bad and have the same problems that they're fleeing from. Not the same, at all.</quote> Are you saying literally every south and central American country is as bad or worse as Venezuela? Do you even realize how unbelievably racist that is?</quote> You sure got me, bro. Fact is, the laws are completely different, and to compare them to what trump is doing is intellectually dishonest.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phantom_Nook 07/15/19 10:33:16 PM #43:	Reps: we want immigrants to enter through proper channels. also Reps: we're making the proper channels harder to go through. --- Not posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Phantom_Nook posted [p:924743320] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote>Reps: we want immigrants to enter through proper channels. also Reps: we're making the proper channels harder to go through.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 07/15/19 10:33:35 PM #44:	BaiusGaltar posted... s0nicfan posted... BaiusGaltar posted... First EUROPEAN country. United States OR Canada. These laws function completely differently, with different aims. They are between states that have agreed to help, and share the load. What this law does is just stop them from seeking asylum. Now, they'll only be able to take refuge in countries that are just as bad and have the same problems that they're fleeing from. Not the same, at all. Are you saying literally every south and central American country is as bad or worse as Venezuela? Do you even realize how unbelievably racist that is? You sure got me, bro. Fact is, the laws are completely different, and to compare them to what trump is doing is intellectually dishonest. But they're not. No South American can apply for asylum in Canada by walking through the USA. They would need to fly there somehow or boat around the entire country. Fact is, you're assuming no south or central American country is a stable functioning nation. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:924743342] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>BaiusGaltar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BaiusGaltar posted...</cite> <quote>First EUROPEAN country. United States OR Canada. These laws function completely differently, with different aims. They are between states that have agreed to help, and share the load. What this law does is just stop them from seeking asylum. Now, they'll only be able to take refuge in countries that are just as bad and have the same problems that they're fleeing from. Not the same, at all.</quote> Are you saying literally every south and central American country is as bad or worse as Venezuela? Do you even realize how unbelievably racist that is?</quote> You sure got me, bro. Fact is, the laws are completely different, and to compare them to what trump is doing is intellectually dishonest.</quote> But they're not. No South American can apply for asylum in Canada by walking through the USA. They would need to fly there somehow or boat around the entire country. Fact is, you're assuming no south or central American country is a stable functioning nation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TomNook20 07/15/19 10:37:08 PM #45:	s0nicfan posted... BaiusGaltar posted... First EUROPEAN country. United States OR Canada. These laws function completely differently, with different aims. They are between states that have agreed to help, and share the load. What this law does is just stop them from seeking asylum. Now, they'll only be able to take refuge in countries that are just as bad and have the same problems that they're fleeing from. Not the same, at all. Are you saying literally every south and central American country is as bad or worse as Venezuela? Do you even realize how unbelievably racist that is? He probably lost his mind when trump said that shithole country thing. --- http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/098/7/4/tom_nook_by_themerce-d3dhi0q.png http://www.gameswagonline.com/uploads/9/0/8/9/9089979/1372277527.jpg <cite>TomNook20 posted [p:924743511] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BaiusGaltar posted...</cite> <quote>First EUROPEAN country. United States OR Canada. These laws function completely differently, with different aims. They are between states that have agreed to help, and share the load. What this law does is just stop them from seeking asylum. Now, they'll only be able to take refuge in countries that are just as bad and have the same problems that they're fleeing from. Not the same, at all.</quote> Are you saying literally every south and central American country is as bad or worse as Venezuela? Do you even realize how unbelievably racist that is?</quote> He probably lost his mind when trump said that shithole country thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 07/15/19 10:39:45 PM #46:	Hop103 posted... They can fix that, it's not like Africa and the Middle East where in many places it's so bad, that it's ridiculously difficult to even try to fix. Most of Africa is probably better off than Central / South America. The most likely thing to kill you in Africa is a mosquito. Mexico's safety varies greatly depending on whether or not you're in a tourist resort or cartel territory. Stuff gets worse the further south you go and hit peak shittiness around Venezuela and parts of Chile. Brazil is okay as long as you're not gay, trans, don't have any money, and support the fascists in power there. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:924743645] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hop103 posted...</cite> <quote>They can fix that, it's not like Africa and the Middle East where in many places it's so bad, that it's ridiculously difficult to even try to fix.</quote> Most of Africa is probably better off than Central / South America. The most likely thing to kill you in Africa is a mosquito. Mexico's safety varies greatly depending on whether or not you're in a tourist resort or cartel territory. Stuff gets worse the further south you go and hit peak shittiness around Venezuela and parts of Chile. Brazil is okay as long as you're not gay, trans, don't have any money, and support the fascists in power there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BaiusGaltar 07/15/19 10:44:04 PM #47:	s0nicfan posted... BaiusGaltar posted... s0nicfan posted... BaiusGaltar posted... First EUROPEAN country. United States OR Canada. These laws function completely differently, with different aims. They are between states that have agreed to help, and share the load. What this law does is just stop them from seeking asylum. Now, they'll only be able to take refuge in countries that are just as bad and have the same problems that they're fleeing from. Not the same, at all. Are you saying literally every south and central American country is as bad or worse as Venezuela? Do you even realize how unbelievably racist that is? You sure got me, bro. Fact is, the laws are completely different, and to compare them to what trump is doing is intellectually dishonest. But they're not. No South American can apply for asylum in Canada by walking through the USA. They would need to fly there somehow or boat around the entire country. Fact is, you're assuming no south or central American country is a stable functioning nation. Venezuela isn't in central America. The gang violence in central America is widespread The geography of central America gives little freedome of movement under this law. The Canadian United States law is an AGREEMENT aimed to HELP refugees. Fail on every level. --- Previously, on Gattelstar Balactica... <cite>BaiusGaltar posted [p:924743842] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BaiusGaltar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BaiusGaltar posted...</cite> <quote>First EUROPEAN country. United States OR Canada. These laws function completely differently, with different aims. They are between states that have agreed to help, and share the load. What this law does is just stop them from seeking asylum. Now, they'll only be able to take refuge in countries that are just as bad and have the same problems that they're fleeing from. Not the same, at all.</quote> Are you saying literally every south and central American country is as bad or worse as Venezuela? Do you even realize how unbelievably racist that is?</quote> You sure got me, bro. Fact is, the laws are completely different, and to compare them to what trump is doing is intellectually dishonest.</quote> But they're not. No South American can apply for asylum in Canada by walking through the USA. They would need to fly there somehow or boat around the entire country. Fact is, you're assuming no south or central American country is a stable functioning nation.</quote> Venezuela isn't in central America. The gang violence in central America is widespread The geography of central America gives little freedome of movement under this law. The Canadian United States law is an AGREEMENT aimed to HELP refugees. Fail on every level.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Grischnak 07/15/19 10:45:48 PM #48:	The_Ivory_Man posted... So to be clear Mexicans can still apply for Asylum at the US-Mexico border? Why do people hate this idea so much? Because Trump. Simply put, this measure was not meant to stop Mexican asylum seekers but those migrant caravans. <cite>Grischnak posted [p:924743924] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>The_Ivory_Man posted...</cite> <quote>So to be clear Mexicans can still apply for Asylum at the US-Mexico border? Why do people hate this idea so much?</quote> Because Trump. Simply put, this measure was not meant to stop Mexican asylum seekers but those migrant caravans.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 07/15/19 10:51:45 PM #49:	BaiusGaltar posted... s0nicfan posted... BaiusGaltar posted... s0nicfan posted... BaiusGaltar posted... First EUROPEAN country. United States OR Canada. These laws function completely differently, with different aims. They are between states that have agreed to help, and share the load. What this law does is just stop them from seeking asylum. Now, they'll only be able to take refuge in countries that are just as bad and have the same problems that they're fleeing from. Not the same, at all. Are you saying literally every south and central American country is as bad or worse as Venezuela? Do you even realize how unbelievably racist that is? You sure got me, bro. Fact is, the laws are completely different, and to compare them to what trump is doing is intellectually dishonest. But they're not. No South American can apply for asylum in Canada by walking through the USA. They would need to fly there somehow or boat around the entire country. Fact is, you're assuming no south or central American country is a stable functioning nation. Venezuela isn't in central America. The gang violence in central America is widespread The geography of central America gives little freedome of movement under this law. The Canadian United States law is an AGREEMENT aimed to HELP refugees. Fail on every level. Right, it's in South America. So are Argentina Bolivia Brazil Chile Colombia Ecuador Guyana Paraguay Peru Suriname and Uruguay. Mexicans, whom ARE in central America, can still apply for asylum at the US under these changes. They could also go south if they felt unsafe at home. The entirety of the southern hemisphere below the USA isn't a warzone. You'd have to be an actual bigot to think that. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:924744198] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>BaiusGaltar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BaiusGaltar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BaiusGaltar posted...</cite> <quote>First EUROPEAN country. United States OR Canada. These laws function completely differently, with different aims. They are between states that have agreed to help, and share the load. What this law does is just stop them from seeking asylum. Now, they'll only be able to take refuge in countries that are just as bad and have the same problems that they're fleeing from. Not the same, at all.</quote> Are you saying literally every south and central American country is as bad or worse as Venezuela? Do you even realize how unbelievably racist that is?</quote> You sure got me, bro. Fact is, the laws are completely different, and to compare them to what trump is doing is intellectually dishonest.</quote> But they're not. No South American can apply for asylum in Canada by walking through the USA. They would need to fly there somehow or boat around the entire country. Fact is, you're assuming no south or central American country is a stable functioning nation.</quote> Venezuela isn't in central America. The gang violence in central America is widespread The geography of central America gives little freedome of movement under this law. The Canadian United States law is an AGREEMENT aimed to HELP refugees. Fail on every level.</quote> Right, it's in South America. So are Argentina Bolivia Brazil Chile Colombia Ecuador Guyana Paraguay Peru Suriname and Uruguay. Mexicans, whom ARE in central America, can still apply for asylum at the US under these changes. They could also go south if they felt unsafe at home. The entirety of the southern hemisphere below the USA isn't a warzone. You'd have to be an actual bigot to think that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PoorAndLonely 07/15/19 10:55:24 PM #50:	Umbreon posted... So much for the "Land of Opportunity". The usual suspects will defend this, no need to bother with them. Just remember this when it comes time to vote. If it's Trump vs. Biden I ain't voting, will back the other Dems tho. --- I'm your PAL. GameFAQs moderators... sigh <cite>PoorAndLonely posted [p:924744358] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>Umbreon posted...</cite> <quote>So much for the "Land of Opportunity". The usual suspects will defend this, no need to bother with them. Just remember this when it comes time to vote.</quote> If it's Trump vs. Biden I ain't voting, will back the other Dems tho.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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