Current Events > Just curious, what are some definitive examples of "Get Woke Go Broke"

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i don't think I've EVER seen the term "Get Woke, Go Broke" used accurately - it seems more like a buzzphrase that simply has no merit in the real world.

Of course I'm probably wrong, but it seems like this phrase is utilized by those who desperately want/wish for a company/business/etc. to fail because of pandering, or being "SJW", etc, etc (i.e. the Gilette fiasco). Unfortunately for those wishing for the respective company's failure, it doesn't really turn out that way (again, see Gilette, a company which, from an objective standpoint, is still doing very well)

Can anyone provide any concrete examples of instances, at least within the current year/decade, that exemplify the phrase Get Woke, Go Broke? Or is this simply no more than wishful thinking on behalf of some internet users?

Thank you for reading and responding. Have a blessed day :)
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Ghostbusters 2016
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Harry Potter Play
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The only time I've seen it used semi accurately is with Marvel comics.

But the thing is, the comic industry dying has a lot of other factors behind it that date back decades. It's just that the untalented woke types have been able to overtake the industry since it's already dying. It just looks bad because social/political books seem to regularly get cancelled for low sales and then rebranded/relaunched all the time now so it looks like a "get woke go broke" thing.
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Sad_Face posted...

Harry Potter Play

ITP: Having recording sales is going broke.

Im not against diversity so I don't pay attention. I don't understand wanting a movie to fail just because there aren't white main characters. The ones that fail just fail cause they're bad. Just like diversity doesn't automatically make a movie bad, it doesn't automatically make a movie good either. All the same things apply that would if they didn't add diversity. I wouldn't want a bad actor getting a job that a good actor would of got because of diversity but does that actually happen? It's never the actor that makes these movies bad. Ghostbusters 2016 wouldn't of been good with the same writing just cause the characters were dudes.
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There's not really a good example of one that wouldn't have failed anyway. Stuff like Ghostbusters and Oceans 8 failed because of terrible marketing and content and the "woke" aspect was introduced later as a simultaneous last ditch market ploy/excuse.Comics have been on a downturn for a lot longer than the current "The Internet Is Angry About Women and Minorities" movement. Battlefield 5 was released at a terrible time for it to be put out and had no BR mode.
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ToadallyAwesome posted...

Ghostbusters 2016

Ghostbusters 2016 made ~1.5 times its budget, which is the usual rule of thumb for deciding whether a movie was a flop or not.

Sure it was maybe a disappointment, but there was no "going broke".
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ultimate reaver posted...

There's not really a good example of one that wouldn't have failed anyway. Stuff like Ghostbusters and Oceans 8 failed because of terrible marketing and content and the "woke" aspect was introduced later as a simultaneous last ditch market ploy/excuse.Comics have been on a downturn for a lot longer than the current "The Internet Is Angry About Women and Minorities" movement. Battlefield 5 was released at a terrible time for it to be put out and had no BR mode.

Yeah, people will always blame what they personally didn't like and ignore the obvious reasons that actually contributed to something failing.
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Anteaterking posted...

Ghostbusters 2016 made ~1.5 times its budget, which is the usual rule of thumb for deciding whether a movie was a flop or not.

Sure it was maybe a disappointment, but there was no "going broke".

Production budget, sure, but they marketed the hell out of it and that ended up making it a flop.

I don't think that has to do with the "woke" factor so much as just being a cautionary tale about over-investing in a marketing budget.
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MrToothHasYou posted...

Production budget, sure, but they marketed the hell out of it and that ended up making it a flop.

I don't think that has to do with the "woke" factor so much as just being a cautionary tale about over-investing in a marketing budget.

Not just over investing in marketing. There's no reason why a comedy film should be pushing 200 million to make. They just don't make that much money. They're not summer blockbusters no matter how much you try.
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50Blessings posted...

Not just over investing in marketing. There's no reason why a comedy film should be pushing 200 million to make. They just don't make that much money. They're not summer blockbusters no matter how much you try.

I mean that's certainly true as well, but they literally spent as much marketing that movie as Marvel spent marketing the last Avengers movie. It's madness.
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Best recent example:
https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/09/us/oberlin-college-bakery-lawsuit/index.html
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Gillette
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Lost_All_Senses posted...

Im not against diversity so I don't pay attention. I don't understand wanting a movie to fail just because there aren't white main characters. The ones that fail just fail cause they're bad. Just like diversity doesn't automatically make a movie bad, it doesn't automatically make a movie good either. All the same things apply that would if they didn't add diversity. I wouldn't want a bad actor getting a job that a good actor would of got because of diversity but does that actually happen? It's never the actor that makes these movies bad. Ghostbusters 2016 wouldn't of been good with the same writing just cause the characters were dudes.

It's not about there not being white main characters or diversity. It's about forced diversity. A good example is the new black Ariel. The character is white and has always been white, yet for some reason Disney forced a change to make her black. When they were making Aladdin they made a big deal about wanting to be authentic and get middle eastern actors to plays the roles, which is good, but then when it came time for the white princess? Nah, fuck that who cares about authenticity.

What pisses people off is the sjw types don't actually care about what they are complaining to be changed so all these developers/producers/executives are doing is pissing off the actual fans. Mass Effect Andromeda is a perfect example. The sjws whined and threatened until they got stuff changed, but that's all they cared about. Oncenthe game came out did they line up to buy it and play the changes they said were so desperately needed? Nope. Then the actual fans, the ones who had been waiting years for the game, they didn't bother buying it either because they thought the game sucked. So the game sold poorly. And you know what happened? The studio that made it was shut down.
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Man tax cafe
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Gamerguymass posted...

It's not about there not being white main characters or diversity. It's about forced diversity. A good example is the new black Ariel. The character is white and has always been white, yet for some reason Disney forced a change to make her black. When they were making Aladdin they made a big deal about wanting to be authentic and get middle eastern actors to plays the roles, which is good, but then when it came time for the white princess? Nah, fuck that who cares about authenticity.

she's... half fish
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Gamerguymass posted...

It's not about there not being white main characters or diversity. It's about forced diversity. A good example is the new black Ariel. The character is white and has always been white, yet for some reason Disney forced a change to make her black. When they were making Aladdin they made a big deal about wanting to be authentic and get middle eastern actors to plays the roles, which is good, but then when it came time for the white princess? Nah, fuck that who cares about authenticity.

LMFAO
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I'm not sure I understand what "forced diversity" is. what alternative is there to "forcing" diversity other than having a cast that's nothing but white men?
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Gamerguymass posted...

Lost_All_Senses posted...

Im not against diversity so I don't pay attention. I don't understand wanting a movie to fail just because there aren't white main characters. The ones that fail just fail cause they're bad. Just like diversity doesn't automatically make a movie bad, it doesn't automatically make a movie good either. All the same things apply that would if they didn't add diversity. I wouldn't want a bad actor getting a job that a good actor would of got because of diversity but does that actually happen? It's never the actor that makes these movies bad. Ghostbusters 2016 wouldn't of been good with the same writing just cause the characters were dudes.

It's not about there not being white main characters or diversity. It's about forced diversity. A good example is the new black Ariel. The character is white and has always been white, yet for some reason Disney forced a change to make her black. When they were making Aladdin they made a big deal about wanting to be authentic and get middle eastern actors to plays the roles, which is good, but then when it came time for the white princess? Nah, fuck that who cares about authenticity.

What pisses people off is the sjw types don't actually care about what they are complaining to be changed so all these developers/producers/executives are doing is pissing off the actual fans. Mass Effect Andromeda is a perfect example. The sjws whined and threatened until they got stuff changed, but that's all they cared about. Oncenthe game came out did they line up to buy it and play the changes they said were so desperately needed? Nope. Then the actual fans, the ones who had been waiting years for the game, they didn't bother buying it either because they thought the game sucked. So the game sold poorly. And you know what happened? The studio that made it was shut down.

The second paragraph is a perfect example of

Lost_All_Senses posted...

people will always blame what they personally didn't like and ignore the obvious reasons that actually contributed to something failing.

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Gamerguymass posted...

Mass Effect Andromeda is a perfect example. The sjws whined and threatened until they got stuff changed, but that's all they cared about. Oncenthe game came out did they line up to buy it and play the changes they said were so desperately needed? Nope. Then the actual fans, the ones who had been waiting years for the game, they didn't bother buying it either because they thought the game sucked. So the game sold poorly. And you know what happened? The studio that made it was shut down.

I don't know what SJW controversy you're talking about, but I feel comfortable in saying the poor sales had less to do with that and much more to do with this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KWkao73HuU" data-time="
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Lordgold666 posted...

Man tax cafe

Yeah that one.

"Handsome Her" was a vegan cafe that gave women priority seating and charged men an extra amount.

It's closed for obvious reasons.
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https://www.zdnet.com/article/gnome-bled-dry-by-outreach-programs/

However, posts ITC make a compelling case that the premise is primarily confirmation bias or some fatal logistical flaw.
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averagejoel posted...

I'm not sure I understand what "forced diversity" is. what alternative is there to "forcing" diversity other than having a cast that's nothing but white men?

That's exactly it man. It's just putting a word in front of the ok thing to make it seem malicious so that they can try to get their way while being seen as victims of...well I dunno what exactly. It's a manipulation tactic to try to make others feel like they're in the wrong for supporting something progressive, like white people not having 90% or more of big roles in hollywood, even though white people aren't nearly 90% of America.
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Lost_All_Senses posted...

averagejoel posted...

I'm not sure I understand what "forced diversity" is. what alternative is there to "forcing" diversity other than having a cast that's nothing but white men?

That's exactly it man. It's just putting a word in front of the ok thing to make it seem malicious so that they can try to get their way while being seen as victims of...well I dunno what exactly. It's a manipulation tactic to try to make others feel like they're in the wrong for supporting something progressive, like white people not having 90% or more of big roles in hollywood, even though white people aren't nearly 90% of America.

I've seen the term "natural diversity" suggested at some point, which is odd considering we're talking about decisions that are, ultimately, being made by humans.

another potential term would be "voluntary diversity", which is equally ineffective, as societal progress has historically never happened on its own. it's always been forced by an underclass, and never voluntarily on the part of the upper class
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JE19426 posted...

Sad_Face posted...

Harry Potter Play

ITP: Having recording sales is going broke.

Heard it flopped.
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Ghostbusters 2016 is the most obvious example.
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DC's relaunch of the Vertigo Comics line.
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averagejoel posted...

Lost_All_Senses posted...

averagejoel posted...

I'm not sure I understand what "forced diversity" is. what alternative is there to "forcing" diversity other than having a cast that's nothing but white men?

That's exactly it man. It's just putting a word in front of the ok thing to make it seem malicious so that they can try to get their way while being seen as victims of...well I dunno what exactly. It's a manipulation tactic to try to make others feel like they're in the wrong for supporting something progressive, like white people not having 90% or more of big roles in hollywood, even though white people aren't nearly 90% of America.

I've seen the term "natural diversity" suggested at some point, which is odd considering we're talking about decisions that are, ultimately, being made by humans.

another potential term would be "voluntary diversity", which is equally ineffective, as societal progress has historically never happened on its own. it's always been forced by an underclass, and never voluntarily on the part of the upper class

Lol, these people must also think there was no resistance when fighting for equal rights. "We just naturally decided that equal rights should be a thing. Bridge? What's this about a bridge?".

Seriously, you gotta think this mind state comes from the same type of people that were waiting on the other side of that bridge. Just toned down a hell of a lot because luckily society is somewhat moving in the right direction. Hopefully in 20 years the arguments about race are even more petty because casting minorities is no longer something people can fight about without feeling like they really doing the community a huge disservice.

I can already feel the rage coming my way from making that comparison to people back in the day
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pegusus123456 posted...

Gamerguymass posted...

Mass Effect Andromeda is a perfect example. The sjws whined and threatened until they got stuff changed, but that's all they cared about. Oncenthe game came out did they line up to buy it and play the changes they said were so desperately needed? Nope. Then the actual fans, the ones who had been waiting years for the game, they didn't bother buying it either because they thought the game sucked. So the game sold poorly. And you know what happened? The studio that made it was shut down.

I don't know what SJW controversy you're talking about, but I feel comfortable in saying the poor sales had less to do with that and much more to do with this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KWkao73HuU" data-time="

Yes and that happened because of forced diversity. They hired a bunch of women and minorities to work on the game, which isn't a problem by itself. The problem came from the fact that most of those people had literally never worked on a video game before. They were hired on to get that diversity quota checkbox. The lead facial animator was a cosplayer. That was why they hired her. Not an animator or a game designer or anything related to video games other then dressing up as the characters in them.

Then they had the Indian or middle eastern guy, I forget, who was literally making racist comments about white people during development. But since its ok to be racist against white people then who cares right?
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Sad_Face posted...

Heard it flopped.

You heard wrong.

Gamerguymass posted...

pegusus123456 posted...

Gamerguymass posted...

Mass Effect Andromeda is a perfect example. The sjws whined and threatened until they got stuff changed, but that's all they cared about. Oncenthe game came out did they line up to buy it and play the changes they said were so desperately needed? Nope. Then the actual fans, the ones who had been waiting years for the game, they didn't bother buying it either because they thought the game sucked. So the game sold poorly. And you know what happened? The studio that made it was shut down.

I don't know what SJW controversy you're talking about, but I feel comfortable in saying the poor sales had less to do with that and much more to do with this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KWkao73HuU" data-time="

Yes and that happened because of forced diversity. They hired a bunch of women and minorities to work on the game, which isn't a problem by itself. The problem came from the fact that most of those people had literally never worked on a video game before. They were hired on to get that diversity quota checkbox. The lead facial animator was a cosplayer. That was why they hired her. Not an animator or a game designer or anything related to video games other then dressing up as the characters in them.

Then they had the Indian or middle eastern guy, I forget, who was literally making racist comments about white people during development. But since its ok to be racist against white people then who cares right?

[citation needed]
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