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toyota
07/30/19 3:56:27 AM
#202:


Tbh I feel a lot of NEETlogic folks would benefit if it was more socially acceptable to work part time as not everyone needs full time hours to get by. I think most NEETs would be ok with working a day or 2 a week to cover however much welfare gives you but most job opportunities wont even hire you if thats all you plan on working

Even casual and part time places act like giving you more shifts is a reward and that you should be pleased that they are expecting you to come to work on call if someone calls in sick.

Its like say if a place was hiring for a casual position and on your available times you only said you only wanted to work 2 or 3 days a week. they most likely wont hire you because of that. So there for a NEETlogic guy who only needs 2 days of work to get by in his 'shitty' life wont be allwed to so then he goes on welfare.
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Modifier
07/30/19 5:27:40 AM
#203:


Why did people even start using "Neet" as a replacement for "unemployed"? Did they get tired of the "between jobs" terminology? Really, all these fancy names just mean a pretty simple thing:a person without a job. And people without jobs is the future ahead of us, for better or worse (more likely this one). Might get used to it.
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REMercsChamp
07/30/19 7:20:00 AM
#204:


Modifier posted...
Why did people even start using "Neet" as a replacement for "unemployed"? Did they get tired of the "between jobs" terminology? Really, all these fancy names just mean a pretty simple thing:a person without a job. And people without jobs is the future ahead of us, for better or worse (more likely this one). Might get used to it.
NEET isn't exactly unemployed...it's unemployed plus the attitude and lifestyle where you've basically decided that work is beneath you and you're going to sit around playing video games and watching anime for the rest of your life while other people take care of you.

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Modifier
07/30/19 8:36:29 AM
#205:


REMercsChamp posted...
Modifier posted...
Why did people even start using "Neet" as a replacement for "unemployed"? Did they get tired of the "between jobs" terminology? Really, all these fancy names just mean a pretty simple thing:a person without a job. And people without jobs is the future ahead of us, for better or worse (more likely this one). Might get used to it.
NEET isn't exactly unemployed...it's unemployed plus the attitude and lifestyle where you've basically decided that work is beneath you and you're going to sit around playing video games and watching anime for the rest of your life while other people take care of you.

That's only according with the Urban Dictionary definition, not the real definition.
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konokonohamaru
07/30/19 8:40:26 AM
#206:


Modifier posted...
REMercsChamp posted...
Modifier posted...
Why did people even start using "Neet" as a replacement for "unemployed"? Did they get tired of the "between jobs" terminology? Really, all these fancy names just mean a pretty simple thing:a person without a job. And people without jobs is the future ahead of us, for better or worse (more likely this one). Might get used to it.
NEET isn't exactly unemployed...it's unemployed plus the attitude and lifestyle where you've basically decided that work is beneath you and you're going to sit around playing video games and watching anime for the rest of your life while other people take care of you.

That's only according with the Urban Dictionary definition, not the real definition.


Because the technical definition of unemployment is that you're looking for work, which neets aren't

The technical term for them would be "out of the labor force"
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Modifier
07/30/19 8:43:53 AM
#207:


konokonohamaru posted...
Modifier posted...
REMercsChamp posted...
Modifier posted...
Why did people even start using "Neet" as a replacement for "unemployed"? Did they get tired of the "between jobs" terminology? Really, all these fancy names just mean a pretty simple thing:a person without a job. And people without jobs is the future ahead of us, for better or worse (more likely this one). Might get used to it.
NEET isn't exactly unemployed...it's unemployed plus the attitude and lifestyle where you've basically decided that work is beneath you and you're going to sit around playing video games and watching anime for the rest of your life while other people take care of you.

That's only according with the Urban Dictionary definition, not the real definition.


Because the technical definition of unemployment is that you're looking for work, which neets aren't

The technical term for them would be "out of the labor force"

What would you call an unemployed out of a job for more than 10 years, for example?
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konokonohamaru
07/30/19 8:47:47 AM
#208:


Modifier posted...
konokonohamaru posted...
Modifier posted...
REMercsChamp posted...
Modifier posted...
Why did people even start using "Neet" as a replacement for "unemployed"? Did they get tired of the "between jobs" terminology? Really, all these fancy names just mean a pretty simple thing:a person without a job. And people without jobs is the future ahead of us, for better or worse (more likely this one). Might get used to it.
NEET isn't exactly unemployed...it's unemployed plus the attitude and lifestyle where you've basically decided that work is beneath you and you're going to sit around playing video games and watching anime for the rest of your life while other people take care of you.

That's only according with the Urban Dictionary definition, not the real definition.


Because the technical definition of unemployment is that you're looking for work, which neets aren't

The technical term for them would be "out of the labor force"

What would you call an unemployed out of a job for more than 10 years, for example?

If they're actually looking for work, unemployed. If they've given up, out of the labor force. That's what the US Bureau of Labor Statistics would define it. Obviously, knowing whether someone's actually looking or not is tricky, though I think for the most part the government just takes your word on it for surveys
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REMercsChamp
07/30/19 8:50:03 AM
#209:


Modifier posted...
What would you call an unemployed out of a job for more than 10 years, for example?
A NEET. Because if you've been looking for work 10 years is more than enough to get a job.

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Modifier
07/30/19 8:57:47 AM
#210:


REMercsChamp posted...
Because if you've been looking for work 10 years is more than enough to get a job.

When will you get out of the 50's? Perhaps these beliefs are programmed into american kids minds?
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konokonohamaru
07/30/19 9:05:55 AM
#211:


toyota posted...
Tbh I feel a lot of NEETlogic folks would benefit if it was more socially acceptable to work part time as not everyone needs full time hours to get by. I think most NEETs would be ok with working a day or 2 a week to cover however much welfare gives you but most job opportunities wont even hire you if thats all you plan on working

Even casual and part time places act like giving you more shifts is a reward and that you should be pleased that they are expecting you to come to work on call if someone calls in sick.

Its like say if a place was hiring for a casual position and on your available times you only said you only wanted to work 2 or 3 days a week. they most likely wont hire you because of that. So there for a NEETlogic guy who only needs 2 days of work to get by in his 'shitty' life wont be allwed to so then he goes on welfare.


There are a lot of ways to work less than a full time job, it sounds like you just haven't explored them...
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Xeed-HP
07/30/19 10:48:46 AM
#212:


Modifier posted...
REMercsChamp posted...
Because if you've been looking for work 10 years is more than enough to get a job.

When will you get out of the 50's? Perhaps these beliefs are programmed into american kids minds?

lol, when all else fails, question someones thought process.

Modifier, you are an amusing fellow. Please do not stop.
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krazychao5
07/30/19 1:49:44 PM
#213:


Xeed-HP posted...
Modifier posted...
REMercsChamp posted...
Because if you've been looking for work 10 years is more than enough to get a job.

When will you get out of the 50's? Perhaps these beliefs are programmed into american kids minds?

lol, when all else fails, question someones thought process.

Modifier, you are an amusing fellow. Please do not stop.

He's an enlightened "non-American"
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FursonaNonGrata
07/30/19 1:50:37 PM
#214:


A GameFAQs user in this very topic: Aryan people are superior

Mods: Thats totally fine to say
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Xeed-HP
07/30/19 2:54:37 PM
#215:


krazychao5 posted...
Xeed-HP posted...
Modifier posted...
REMercsChamp posted...
Because if you've been looking for work 10 years is more than enough to get a job.

When will you get out of the 50's? Perhaps these beliefs are programmed into american kids minds?

lol, when all else fails, question someones thought process.

Modifier, you are an amusing fellow. Please do not stop.

He's an enlightened "non-American"

Aye. I wish I had his confidence while he collected his welfare and food stamps. Must be a beacon of inspiration down at the welfare agency.
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StealthRock
07/30/19 3:00:50 PM
#216:


VayneSolo posted...
StealthRock posted...
Not people with legit disabilities although they too have to try. They cant live on excuses either

Nice way of misreading my post. In case you hadn't noticed, I meant that speech was bullshit for *redacted* people.
Also, thanks for letting us know that disabled have "to try" and that they can't live on "excuses".

Calm down bud.

Maybe explain it better next time.
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gmanthebest
07/31/19 4:11:53 AM
#217:


Modifier posted...
REMercsChamp posted...
Because if you've been looking for work 10 years is more than enough to get a job.

When will you get out of the 50's? Perhaps these beliefs are programmed into american kids minds?

Wut? If you can't find a job in a decade, you either suck at looking or are one of those "Too good to work minimum wage" people.
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Modifier
07/31/19 6:01:02 AM
#218:


gmanthebest posted...
Modifier posted...
REMercsChamp posted...
Because if you've been looking for work 10 years is more than enough to get a job.

When will you get out of the 50's? Perhaps these beliefs are programmed into american kids minds?

Wut? If you can't find a job in a decade, you either suck at looking or are one of those "Too good to work minimum wage" people.

Have you ever been to Greece? Plenty of people in that condition there. Most be be homeless by now. Some might have died already.
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Modifier
07/31/19 10:26:14 AM
#219:


With advice like this no wonder Neets are growing in number. Who goes along with shit like this?
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/20140728171127-2055662-7-life-hacks-to-finding-inspiration-during-unemployment
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Hummer 2
08/01/19 1:39:51 AM
#220:


FursonaNonGrata posted...
A GameFAQs user in this very topic: Aryan people are superior

Mods: Thats totally fine to say


Do you really expect anything more from these stooges. I'm betting 50% of them are NEETs themselves who identify with the meme
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Modifier
08/01/19 5:53:06 AM
#221:


Hummer 2 posted...
FursonaNonGrata posted...
A GameFAQs user in this very topic: Aryan people are superior

Mods: Thats totally fine to say


Do you really expect anything more from these stooges. I'm betting 50% of them are NEETs themselves who identify with the meme

Neets are just unemployed people who don't believe they should waste their time in fruitless job searches that will lead nowhere. Technically, you can only be a Neet until 24.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEET
After that age you just become a desillusioned unemployed.
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iClockwork
08/01/19 5:58:44 AM
#222:


Modifier posted...
https://www.reddit.com/r/lostgeneration/

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this pic is fucking hilarious though
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Modifier
08/01/19 6:05:53 AM
#223:


iClockwork posted...
Modifier posted...
https://www.reddit.com/r/lostgeneration/

aJblVJt

this pic is fucking hilarious though

And the wage slaves are actually the lucky ones. Jobs are going away. A new economic paradigm may be underway. I wonder how things will work when the masses can't pay for stuff because they have no job and no money.
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iClockwork
08/01/19 6:32:25 AM
#224:


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And the wage slaves are actually the lucky ones. Jobs are going away. A new economic paradigm may be underway. I wonder how things will work when the masses can't pay for stuff because they have no job and no money.

Money will always be distributed to the general public at large. Without money to spend on goods and services you can't keep corporations continuing to turn a profit and the whole economy will collapse.
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Modifier
08/01/19 6:40:06 AM
#225:


iClockwork posted...
Without money to spend on goods and services you can't keep corporations continuing to turn a profit and the whole economy will collapse.

It'll come a time when big corporations as they now exist will cease to be. If the owners of said corporations can secure the means of production they will be able to get everything they have now without needing the masses. Think: why do you need money? To buy stuff you have no access to, be it food, housing, cleaning, etc.. And you still need people to do some of that and to buy stuff from you so that you can get money. But if you can get robots/androids with good AI to do that instead of people the paradigm changes. You stop needing to produce to sell to the masses to get moeny from them. You start producing for yourself and your close ones. And you stop caring about the masses that will need to fend for themselves.
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LordRazziel
08/01/19 1:11:55 PM
#226:


Modifier posted...
iClockwork posted...
Without money to spend on goods and services you can't keep corporations continuing to turn a profit and the whole economy will collapse.

It'll come a time when big corporations as they now exist will cease to be. If the owners of said corporations can secure the means of production they will be able to get everything they have now without needing the masses. Think: why do you need money? To buy stuff you have no access to, be it food, housing, cleaning, etc.. And you still need people to do some of that and to buy stuff from you so that you can get money. But if you can get robots/androids with good AI to do that instead of people the paradigm changes. You stop needing to produce to sell to the masses to get moeny from them. You start producing for yourself and your close ones. And you stop caring about the masses that will need to fend for themselves.

Why would they turn down bigger profits?
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Questionmarktarius
08/01/19 1:17:16 PM
#227:


Modifier posted...
It'll come a time when big corporations as they now exist will cease to be. If the owners of said corporations can secure the means of production they will be able to get everything they have now without needing the masses. Think: why do you need money? To buy stuff you have no access to, be it food, housing, cleaning, etc.. And you still need people to do some of that and to buy stuff from you so that you can get money. But if you can get robots/androids with good AI to do that instead of people the paradigm changes. You stop needing to produce to sell to the masses to get moeny from them. You start producing for yourself and your close ones. And you stop caring about the masses that will need to fend for themselves.

Robots don't buy superfluous trinkets.
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iClockwork
08/01/19 5:27:47 PM
#228:


Questionmarktarius posted...
Robots don't buy superfluous trinkets.

Robots also don't pay rent.
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Notti
08/03/19 3:10:52 AM
#229:


Modifier posted...
iClockwork posted...
Modifier posted...
https://www.reddit.com/r/lostgeneration/

aJblVJt

this pic is fucking hilarious though

And the wage slaves are actually the lucky ones. Jobs are going away. A new economic paradigm may be underway. I wonder how things will work when the masses can't pay for stuff because they have no job and no money.


Star Trek time.

And by Star Trek I mean The Borg.

The Borg are coming.

Resistance is futile.
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Questionmarktarius
08/03/19 1:58:10 PM
#230:


iClockwork posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Robots don't buy superfluous trinkets.

Robots also don't pay rent.

And there you go.

A large "NEET" class becomes massive confiscation and redistribution at best, and guillotines at worst.
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StealthRock
08/04/19 11:23:28 AM
#231:


iClockwork posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Robots don't buy superfluous trinkets.

Robots also don't pay rent.

Robots also dont buy food
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SauI_Goodman
08/04/19 11:27:53 AM
#232:


lol @ the idea of a neet having friends or working out
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thanosibe
08/04/19 2:47:15 PM
#233:


StealthRock posted...
iClockwork posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Robots don't buy superfluous trinkets.

Robots also don't pay rent.

Robots also dont buy food
Robots also dont sleep and fuck.
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konokonohamaru
08/04/19 3:24:12 PM
#234:


thanosibe posted...
Robots also dont sleep and fuck.


Right on one count wrong on the other

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thanosibe
08/04/19 10:00:02 PM
#235:


konokonohamaru posted...
thanosibe posted...
Robots also dont sleep and fuck.


Right on one count wrong on the other
Maintenance 2.5%. Sleep 30%. And thats a low ball percentage. To actually be efficient humans need around 40% downtime.

Robot efficiency>human efficiency
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