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ZeroKelvin 07/26/19 12:53:24 AM #1:	If people can have a mismatch between the mind and body, its only logical to think that such a thing could occur with animals too. Is there any way we could tell if an animal is transgendered or not? <cite>ZeroKelvin posted [p:925196898] in Can animal... [t:77890413]...</cite> <quote>If people can have a mismatch between the mind and body, its only logical to think that such a thing could occur with animals too. Is there any way we could tell if an animal is transgendered or not? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pauIie 07/26/19 12:54:18 AM #2:	seahorses --- https://imgur.com/O5APL http://www.last.fm/user/jaeganja <cite>pauIie posted [p:925196927] in Can animal... [t:77890413]...</cite> <quote>seahorses</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
0xDEFECADE 07/26/19 12:54:23 AM #3:	I mean maybe. There was a cat everyone assumed was a girl at first, until we finally actually checked. --- 1101 1110 1111 1110 1100 1010 1101 1110 one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>0xDEFECADE posted [p:925196931] in Can animal... [t:77890413]...</cite> <quote>I mean maybe. There was a cat everyone assumed was a girl at first, until we finally actually checked.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yunalenne10 07/26/19 12:55:30 AM #4:	Penguins. --- "The more beautiful and pure a thing is, the more satisfying it is to corrupt it." - Rule 43 <cite>yunalenne10 posted [p:925196973] in Can animal... [t:77890413]...</cite> <quote>Penguins.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kensaimage 07/26/19 12:55:31 AM #5:	I highly doubt animals have the capacity to even comprehend that concept <cite>Kensaimage posted [p:925196974] in Can animal... [t:77890413]...</cite> <quote>I highly doubt animals have the capacity to even comprehend that concept</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AmericaTheBrave 07/26/19 12:59:08 AM #6:	I don't think animal brains are complicated enough for it. --- https://i.imgtc.ws/8tc5P9i.jpg That's America's ass <cite>AmericaTheBrave posted [p:925197062] in Can animal... [t:77890413]...</cite> <quote>I don't think animal brains are complicated enough for it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
viewmaster_pi 07/26/19 1:03:28 AM #7:	Animals have a sex, not a gender. <cite>viewmaster_pi posted [p:925197165] in Can animal... [t:77890413]...</cite> <quote>Animals have a sex, not a gender.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StickFigures720 07/26/19 1:04:39 AM #8:	Kensaimage posted... I highly doubt animals have the capacity to even comprehend that concept --- "You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant." - Harlan Ellison <cite>StickFigures720 posted [p:925197191] in Can animal... [t:77890413]...</cite> <quote>Kensaimage posted...</cite> <quote>I highly doubt animals have the capacity to even comprehend that concept</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Purple_Cheetah 07/26/19 1:05:07 AM #9:	Hyenas maybe... but that's more of a confusion for everyone else. <cite>Purple_Cheetah posted [p:925197203] in Can animal... [t:77890413]...</cite> <quote>Hyenas maybe... but that's more of a confusion for everyone else.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Verdekal 07/26/19 1:26:40 AM #10:	There's a species of fish that transforms from female to male if there is no male present. --- Don't tease the octopus, kids! <cite>Verdekal posted [p:925197699] in Can animal... [t:77890413]...</cite> <quote>There's a species of fish that transforms from female to male if there is no male present.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReignFury 07/26/19 1:28:38 AM #11:	Some animals are gay --- https://tinyurl.com/y52lxcv2 https://imgur.com/ckMyHXv <cite>ReignFury posted [p:925197744] in Can animal... [t:77890413]...</cite> <quote>Some animals are gay</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medussa 07/26/19 1:32:13 AM #12:	probably? nothing about it seems to require sapience to me. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! So... what did we learn? <cite>Medussa posted [p:925197828] in Can animal... [t:77890413]...</cite> <quote>probably? nothing about it seems to require sapience to me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 07/26/19 1:32:26 AM #13:	https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GenderBender Go to real life section --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:925197834] in Can animal... [t:77890413]...</cite> <quote>https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GenderBender Go to real life section</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AssGender 07/26/19 1:33:14 AM #14:	0xDEFECADE posted... I mean maybe. There was a cat everyone assumed was a girl at first, until we finally actually checked. cat can be an ass sometimes --- Ecce homo qui est faba.Ecce homo qui est faba. Vale homo qui est faba, qui est faba, qui est faba <cite>AssGender posted [p:925197854] in Can animal... [t:77890413]...</cite> <quote>0xDEFECADE posted...</cite> <quote>I mean maybe. There was a cat everyone assumed was a girl at first, until we finally actually checked.</quote> cat can be an ass sometimes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AmericaTheBrave 07/26/19 8:58:33 AM #15:	ReignFury posted... Some animals are gay Like swans? --- https://i.imgtc.ws/8tc5P9i.jpg That's America's ass <cite>AmericaTheBrave posted [p:925205786] in Can animal... [t:77890413]...</cite> <quote>ReignFury posted...</cite> <quote>Some animals are gay</quote> Like swans?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TwoDoorPunkCab 07/26/19 9:00:25 AM #16:	--- Tell me your favourite things. Tell me your favourite things. <cite>TwoDoorPunkCab posted [p:925205839] in Can animal... [t:77890413]...</cite> <quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
knutjob 07/26/19 9:01:50 AM #17:	Verdekal posted... There's a species of fish that transforms from female to male if there is no male present. Clown fish. Finding Nemo could have been a very different movie also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KICKEIUcsjU" data-time=" <cite>knutjob posted [p:925205870] in Can animal... [t:77890413]...</cite> <quote>Verdekal posted...</cite> <quote>There's a species of fish that transforms from female to male if there is no male present.</quote> Clown fish. Finding Nemo could have been a very different movie also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KICKEIUcsjU" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZeroKelvin 07/27/19 1:12:18 AM #18:	Kensaimage posted... I highly doubt animals have the capacity to even comprehend that concept AmericaTheBrave posted... I don't think animal brains are complicated enough for it. Maybe, but its not like its something animals would have to consciously understand for it to still be possible. They could have the genitalia and build of one sex while having a brain that more closely resembles that of the opposite sex. They just wouldnt be able to fully comprehend the mismatch like people can. viewmaster_pi posted... Animals have a sex, not a gender. Proof? <cite>ZeroKelvin posted [p:925241076] in Can animal... [t:77890413]...</cite> <quote>Kensaimage posted...</cite> <quote>I highly doubt animals have the capacity to even comprehend that concept</quote> AmericaTheBrave posted...</cite> <quote>I don't think animal brains are complicated enough for it.</quote> Maybe, but its not like its something animals would have to consciously understand for it to still be possible. They could have the genitalia and build of one sex while having a brain that more closely resembles that of the opposite sex. They just wouldnt be able to fully comprehend the mismatch like people can. viewmaster_pi posted...</cite> <quote>Animals have a sex, not a gender.</quote> Proof?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HylianFox 07/27/19 1:12:59 AM #19:	some animals can change gender, yes --- I like my beer cold, my TV loud, and my homosexuals FUH-LAMING! - Homer Simpson Don't be a turd. - Chris Pratt <cite>HylianFox posted [p:925241087] in Can animal... [t:77890413]...</cite> <quote>some animals can change gender, yes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZeroKelvin 07/27/19 1:41:33 AM #20:	HylianFox posted... some animals can change gender, yes Thats true, but Im really wondering more about animals that would be transgendered in a way thats parallel to humans, not those that can change at will or based on environmental conditions <cite>ZeroKelvin posted [p:925241786] in Can animal... [t:77890413]...</cite> <quote>HylianFox posted...</cite> <quote>some animals can change gender, yes</quote> Thats true, but Im really wondering more about animals that would be transgendered in a way thats parallel to humans, not those that can change at will or based on environmental conditions</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/27/19 1:43:46 AM #21:	Verdekal posted... There's a species of fish that transforms from female to male if there is no male present. Don't forget those ones where small males pretend to be females so they can get in close and reproduce Or those saber fencing ones where the loser loses their dick and becomes a female who will soon lay eggs --- https://i.imgtc.ws/x2KBsjI.png <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:925241834] in Can animal... [t:77890413]...</cite> <quote>Verdekal posted...</cite> <quote>There's a species of fish that transforms from female to male if there is no male present.</quote> Don't forget those ones where small males pretend to be females so they can get in close and reproduce Or those saber fencing ones where the loser loses their dick and becomes a female who will soon lay eggs</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phewfus 07/27/19 1:59:45 AM #22:	You'd have to prove animals have the ability to percieve the concept of gender to begin with. Most animals don't even have a concept of self awareness for something like gender to spawn from. <cite>Phewfus posted [p:925242115] in Can animal... [t:77890413]...</cite> <quote>You'd have to prove animals have the ability to percieve the concept of gender to begin with. Most animals don't even have a concept of self awareness for something like gender to spawn from.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lord_Wombat 07/27/19 2:01:01 AM #23:	Kensaimage posted... I highly doubt animals have the capacity to even comprehend that concept Neither do some humans tbh viewmaster_pi posted... Animals have a sex, not a gender. Shut the fuck up --- "In the end we're all dicks".-ReiderAsmadi Candy, tastes like chicken if chicken was a candy -Toki Wartooth <cite>Lord_Wombat posted [p:925242131] in Can animal... [t:77890413]...</cite> <quote>Kensaimage posted...</cite> <quote>I highly doubt animals have the capacity to even comprehend that concept</quote> Neither do some humans tbh viewmaster_pi posted...</cite> <quote>Animals have a sex, not a gender.</quote> Shut the fuck up</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 07/27/19 2:54:06 AM #24:	ZeroKelvin posted... HylianFox posted... some animals can change gender, yes Thats true, but Im really wondering more about animals that would be transgendered in a way thats parallel to humans, not those that can change at will or based on environmental conditions Animals for the most part dont even have complicated emotions like guilt and pride. Gender and gender roles arent the same for humans, but to an animals more simplistic mind they might as well be, so any animal that behaves in the role the opposite sex does would be the human equivalent of transgender. And also, environmental conditions and changing at will arent exceptions. Humans dont have them currently but if there are rays or mutations that can change the brain or the body found in the future that would also be transgender. Actually, in the tvtropes page I listed, 5-ARD counts. --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:925243149] in Can animal... [t:77890413]...</cite> <quote>ZeroKelvin posted...</cite> <quote>HylianFox posted...</cite> <quote>some animals can change gender, yes</quote> Thats true, but Im really wondering more about animals that would be transgendered in a way thats parallel to humans, not those that can change at will or based on environmental conditions</quote> Animals for the most part dont even have complicated emotions like guilt and pride. Gender and gender roles arent the same for humans, but to an animals more simplistic mind they might as well be, so any animal that behaves in the role the opposite sex does would be the human equivalent of transgender. And also, environmental conditions and changing at will arent exceptions. Humans dont have them currently but if there are rays or mutations that can change the brain or the body found in the future that would also be transgender. Actually, in the tvtropes page I listed, 5-ARD counts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZeroKelvin 07/28/19 5:14:37 PM #25:	GiftedACIII posted... ZeroKelvin posted... HylianFox posted... some animals can change gender, yes Thats true, but Im really wondering more about animals that would be transgendered in a way thats parallel to humans, not those that can change at will or based on environmental conditions Animals for the most part dont even have complicated emotions like guilt and pride. Gender and gender roles arent the same for humans, but to an animals more simplistic mind they might as well be, so any animal that behaves in the role the opposite sex does would be the human equivalent of transgender. And also, environmental conditions and changing at will arent exceptions. Humans dont have them currently but if there are rays or mutations that can change the brain or the body found in the future that would also be transgender. Actually, in the tvtropes page I listed, 5-ARD counts. Interesting points, and largely along the lines of what I was thinking originally. I just wonder if theres any known examples or research that has been done in the area. <cite>ZeroKelvin posted [p:925303778] in Can animal... [t:77890413]...</cite> <quote>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote>ZeroKelvin posted...</cite> <quote>HylianFox posted...</cite> <quote>some animals can change gender, yes</quote> Thats true, but Im really wondering more about animals that would be transgendered in a way thats parallel to humans, not those that can change at will or based on environmental conditions</quote> Animals for the most part dont even have complicated emotions like guilt and pride. Gender and gender roles arent the same for humans, but to an animals more simplistic mind they might as well be, so any animal that behaves in the role the opposite sex does would be the human equivalent of transgender. And also, environmental conditions and changing at will arent exceptions. Humans dont have them currently but if there are rays or mutations that can change the brain or the body found in the future that would also be transgender. Actually, in the tvtropes page I listed, 5-ARD counts.</quote> Interesting points, and largely along the lines of what I was thinking originally. I just wonder if theres any known examples or research that has been done in the area.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Notti 07/28/19 5:44:30 PM #26:	If a human can be transgender, I'm not sure why an animal can't. The thing is, I am only aware of research on bisexual/homosexual animals. Since you can't ask animals questions about how they feel in their body, we'll never know anything about transgenderism in them... well... unless we can find a brain structure basis for transgenderism in humans. Then maybe we can look for it in animals. But that hasn't been nailed down in humans so, I don't think there is any research in animals yet. --- https://youtube.com/TheYoungTurks http://RightWingWatch.org/ https://DemocraticUnderground.com/?com=latest_threads https://reddit.com/r/The_Mueller/new <cite>Notti posted [p:925304763] in Can animal... [t:77890413]...</cite> <quote>If a human can be transgender, I'm not sure why an animal can't. The thing is, I am only aware of research on bisexual/homosexual animals. Since you can't ask animals questions about how they feel in their body, we'll never know anything about transgenderism in them... well... unless we can find a brain structure basis for transgenderism in humans. Then maybe we can look for it in animals. But that hasn't been nailed down in humans so, I don't think there is any research in animals yet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZeroKelvin 07/28/19 8:07:41 PM #27:	Yeah, I know its tougher to explore in animals since they cant talk about it lol. I thought maybe they could do some sort of brain scans or behavioral tests to see if those matched up with their sexs typical behavior/scans or something like that <cite>ZeroKelvin posted [p:925309867] in Can animal... [t:77890413]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, I know its tougher to explore in animals since they cant talk about it lol. I thought maybe they could do some sort of brain scans or behavioral tests to see if those matched up with their sexs typical behavior/scans or something like that </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 07/28/19 8:09:38 PM #28:	Kensaimage posted... I highly doubt animals have the capacity to even comprehend that concept --- Be wary of boarding the hype train, lest you end up on the ruse cruise... - nanobuilder (r/nintendo) http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:925309934] in Can animal... [t:77890413]...</cite> <quote>Kensaimage posted...</cite> <quote>I highly doubt animals have the capacity to even comprehend that concept</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vocedelmorte 07/28/19 8:18:00 PM #29:	Animals can't be transgender, because gender is a social construct that unique to human society <cite>vocedelmorte posted [p:925310251] in Can animal... [t:77890413]...</cite> <quote>Animals can't be transgender, because gender is a social construct that unique to human society</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Notti 07/28/19 8:48:14 PM #30:	ZeroKelvin posted... Yeah, I know its tougher to explore in animals since they cant talk about it lol. I thought maybe they could do some sort of brain scans or behavioral tests to see if those matched up with their sexs typical behavior/scans or something like that Yeah I've changed my mind on the idea a bit. Some animals can communicate. Think birds. There are several birds that decorate their nests with collected baubles that are gender specific. It might be possible for this to be tested with to see if there are any birds that attempt the other gender's displays or something like that. It might be extremely rare to find though. --- https://youtube.com/TheYoungTurks http://RightWingWatch.org/ https://DemocraticUnderground.com/?com=latest_threads https://reddit.com/r/The_Mueller/new <cite>Notti posted [p:925311311] in Can animal... [t:77890413]...</cite> <quote>ZeroKelvin posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah, I know its tougher to explore in animals since they cant talk about it lol. I thought maybe they could do some sort of brain scans or behavioral tests to see if those matched up with their sexs typical behavior/scans or something like that </quote> Yeah I've changed my mind on the idea a bit. Some animals can communicate. Think birds. There are several birds that decorate their nests with collected baubles that are gender specific. It might be possible for this to be tested with to see if there are any birds that attempt the other gender's displays or something like that. It might be extremely rare to find though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 07/28/19 8:50:06 PM #31:	vocedelmorte posted... Animals can't be transgender, because gender is a social construct that unique to human society That isn't what gender is, but still probably too advanced for other animals. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:925311380] in Can animal... [t:77890413]...</cite> <quote>vocedelmorte posted...</cite> <quote>Animals can't be transgender, because gender is a social construct that unique to human society</quote> That isn't what gender is, but still probably too advanced for other animals.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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