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how many

Bout tree fiddy
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will that be the subtitle of the next avengers?

An alternate universe creates a non-shit version of The Pride.
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Isn't this like asking how many villains are left in the dragon ball _ series?
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Marvel: Oops, No Villains!

Still alive:

Ayesha and the rest of the Sovereign

The Grandmaster

Zemo

Vulture

Scorpion

Various members of Mysterio's group
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Marvel's Avengers: Bout Tree Fiddy
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Marvel: What If...? ...I were to purchase fast food and disguise it as my own cooking?
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It would be really cool if they introduced some of these villains outside their usual properties. Like one of them being showing up in BP, another in FF (like Magneto), another in CM, etc.
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Galactus will probably be in a Captain Marvel movie, or maybe GotG. He doesn't really have a personality so he wouldn't work as the next Thanos unless they made Silver Surfer do all the talking.

As others have said, Magneto will show up in Xmen, Endgame setup Xmen by making the comment about the snap releasing gamma radiation so 50% of the population is a potential mutant

Doom needs to be introduced as well.
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You know, the comic publications themselves could be focused on creating new characters. Like, I would've thought about three or four years ago that they might wanna be working on a female Thanos or something. Not so much in terms of being the same type of character, but rather occupying the same role as a conclusive opponent.

Given that the next wave is already set, it would be a good idea for them to go about conjuring up a female Frieza or Satan or something. They'd have a good five to seven years before she'd even have an opportunity to appear on film, so they'd have time to spam appearances in video games, toylines, and crossover comics.

Skye Reynolds posted...

Like, I would've thought about three or four years ago that they might wanna be working on a female Thanos or something. Not so much in terms of being the same type of character, but rather occupying the same role as a conclusive opponent.

There is a female Thanos in the comics, but she's literally a female Thanos that Thanos made to try and make Lady Death jealous.
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There's tons of Spider-Man villains they could use. Norman Osborn/Oscorp could take over the gap left by Stark Industries for example.

I feel like there should be a crossover with Watchmen and have them fight Dr. Manhattan and Ozymandias.

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All I want is Mephisto. The dude is literally Satan so Marvel would have to go dark with it.
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Trelve posted...

There's tons of Spider-Man villains they could use. Norman Osborn/Oscorp could take over the gap left by Stark Industries for example.

yeah that spring to mind

Skye Reynolds posted...

You know, the comic publications themselves could be focused on creating new characters. Like, I would've thought about three or four years ago that they might wanna be working on a female Thanos or something. Not so much in terms of being the same type of character, but rather occupying the same role as a conclusive opponent.

Given that the next wave is already set, it would be a good idea for them to go about conjuring up a female Frieza or Satan or something. They'd have a good five to seven years before she'd even have an opportunity to appear on film, so they'd have time to spam appearances in video games, toylines, and crossover comics.

They need new characters

So make Thanos female... wat
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You know, the comic publications themselves could be focused on creating new characters. Like, I would've thought about three or four years ago that they might wanna be working on a female Thanos or something. Not so much in terms of being the same type of character, but rather occupying the same role as a conclusive opponent.

It's like when a video game has a sequel and presents a new final boss. Cetrion from Mortal Kombat is not like Shao Kahn or Shinnok, but she's the final opponent of the most recent Mortal Kombat game. She occupies the same reletive role as her male predecessors. This character (whether she be a new character created or a preexistent character who's being promoted to cosmic status) needs a different demeanor, a different look, different voice patterns, but a similar willingness to take over or destroy the universe.

The next Thanos level opponent doesn't have to be female, but I think it'd be a lot easier for her to avoid comparison if she was. Besides, Marvel is all about powerful women right now. Why not extend that to the villain? It's not very often you can cover new ground in comics. So why not have a Thanos/Darkseid level villain who's a woman?

CyricZ posted...

Marvel: Oops, No Villains!

Still alive:

Ayesha and the rest of the Sovereign

The Grandmaster

Zemo

Vulture

Scorpion

Various members of Mysterio's group

Hela and Surtur also weren't confirmed dead. It's obviously implied but I could see the writers pulling something out of their hats if they wanted to bring them back.

TC's question kind of surprises me. If you mean villains that were already introduced in the MCU, then most of them are dead. If you mean potential new villains from the comics, then they have almost an unlimited pool to pick from. Marvel's been around for a long-ass time.
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IIRC Marvel want Kraven but they need permission from Sony 1st.

Yall forgot Baron Mordo is alive and well

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CyricZ posted...

Marvel: Oops, No Villains!

Still alive:

Ayesha and the rest of the Sovereign

The Grandmaster

Zemo

Vulture

Scorpion

Various members of Mysterio's group

Also almost certainly still alive:

Abomination
Mysterio
Ultron
Klaw
Justin Hammer
Zemo
The Leader
Loki(kinda a villain, kinda alive)
Red Skull(I'd LOVE to see his return)
The Collector
Dormammu(And technically Kaecillius)
Ghost and Goliath
The Kree

Skye Reynolds posted...

You know, the comic publications themselves could be focused on creating new characters. Like, I would've thought about three or four years ago that they might wanna be working on a female Thanos or something. Not so much in terms of being the same type of character, but rather occupying the same role as a conclusive opponent.

It's like when a video game has a sequel and presents a new final boss. Cetrion from Mortal Kombat is not like Shao Kahn or Shinnok, but she's the final opponent of the most recent Mortal Kombat game. She occupies the same reletive role as her male predecessors. This character (whether she be a new character created or a preexistent character who's being promoted to cosmic status) needs a different demeanor, a different look, different voice patterns, but a similar willingness to take over or destroy the universe.

The next Thanos level opponent doesn't have to be female, but I think it'd be a lot easier for her to avoid comparison if she was. Besides, Marvel is all about powerful women right now. Why not extend that to the villain? It's not very often you can cover new ground in comics. So why not have a Thanos/Darkseid level villain who's a woman?

Make it Deathbird. With people like Gladiator, Hussar and Neutron on her side, she can pose a real threat.
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CyricZ posted...

The Grandmaster

Didnt the post credits scene of ragnarok pretty well suggest hes dead?
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DarkBuster22904 posted...

CyricZ posted...

The Grandmaster

Didnt the post credits scene of ragnarok pretty well suggest hes dead?

No one's dead until Thanos says "no resurrections".

Yeah they did suggest it, but if they wanted him back, the writers could come up with a plausible explanation. He's entertaining af so I wouldn't mind.
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The next rumored Avengers villain is to be Anninilus.

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DirkDiggles posted...

The next rumored Avengers villain is to be Anninilus.

Marvel probably barely knows who the next Avengers villain is. It's probably going to be more akin to Phase 1, where they didn't know the villain for Avengers was Loki until shortly before production started.

OctilIery posted...

DirkDiggles posted...

The next rumored Avengers villain is to be Anninilus.

Marvel probably barely knows who the next Avengers villain is. It's probably going to be more akin to Phase 1, where they didn't know the villain for Avengers was Loki until shortly before production started.

The only big comic story to rival Infinity Gauntlet that's been mentioned in interviews so far, IIRC, was Secret War by the Russos. I'd love to see their take on that story, or anyone with Marvel really, but I'd be surprised if they've planned that much ahead.
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Cheese_Crackers posted...

OctilIery posted...

DirkDiggles posted...

The next rumored Avengers villain is to be Anninilus.

Marvel probably barely knows who the next Avengers villain is. It's probably going to be more akin to Phase 1, where they didn't know the villain for Avengers was Loki until shortly before production started.

The only big comic story to rival Infinity Gauntlet that's been mentioned in interviews so far, IIRC, was Secret War by the Russos. I'd love to see their take on that story, or anyone with Marvel really, but I'd be surprised if they've planned that much ahead.

There's honestly plenty they could do. I wouldn't be opposed to them giving Ultron another go, or having their time travel shenanigans lead to Kang coming around.

Also, they aren't doing anymore big Infinity War/Endgame style events anymore - events are going to be largely resolved in a single phase, at least for awhile.

What with the fox acquisition and all that, I would not be surprised if the buildup to Galactus begins pretty soon
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OctilIery posted...

Cheese_Crackers posted...

OctilIery posted...

DirkDiggles posted...

The next rumored Avengers villain is to be Anninilus.

Marvel probably barely knows who the next Avengers villain is. It's probably going to be more akin to Phase 1, where they didn't know the villain for Avengers was Loki until shortly before production started.

The only big comic story to rival Infinity Gauntlet that's been mentioned in interviews so far, IIRC, was Secret War by the Russos. I'd love to see their take on that story, or anyone with Marvel really, but I'd be surprised if they've planned that much ahead.

There's honestly plenty they could do. I wouldn't be opposed to them giving Ultron another go, or having their time travel shenanigans lead to Kang coming around.

I'm open for anything at this point. I'll freely admit that I was skeptical of GotG because no one (even many comic fans) knew much about them. Now they're two of my favourite movies. They should just pick the weirdest shit and run with it.
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DarkBuster22904 posted...

What with the fox acquisition and all that, I would not be surprised if the buildup to Galactus begins pretty soon

Nah. Galactus just isn't good as a villain, or at least not as the primary focus.

Cheese_Crackers posted...

OctilIery posted...

Cheese_Crackers posted...

OctilIery posted...

DirkDiggles posted...

The next rumored Avengers villain is to be Anninilus.

Marvel probably barely knows who the next Avengers villain is. It's probably going to be more akin to Phase 1, where they didn't know the villain for Avengers was Loki until shortly before production started.

The only big comic story to rival Infinity Gauntlet that's been mentioned in interviews so far, IIRC, was Secret War by the Russos. I'd love to see their take on that story, or anyone with Marvel really, but I'd be surprised if they've planned that much ahead.

There's honestly plenty they could do. I wouldn't be opposed to them giving Ultron another go, or having their time travel shenanigans lead to Kang coming around.

I'm open for anything at this point. I'll freely admit that I was skeptical of GotG because no one (even many comic fans) knew much about them. Now they're two of my favourite movies. They should just pick the weirdest shit and run with it.

Seriously. That was the last time I doubted them.

CyricZ posted...

Marvel: What If...? ...I were to purchase fast food and disguise it as my own cooking?

steamed hams
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Skye Reynolds posted...

You know, the comic publications themselves could be focused on creating new characters. Like, I would've thought about three or four years ago that they might wanna be working on a female Thanos or something. Not so much in terms of being the same type of character, but rather occupying the same role as a conclusive opponent.

It's like when a video game has a sequel and presents a new final boss. Cetrion from Mortal Kombat is not like Shao Kahn or Shinnok, but she's the final opponent of the most recent Mortal Kombat game. She occupies the same reletive role as her male predecessors. This character (whether she be a new character created or a preexistent character who's being promoted to cosmic status) needs a different demeanor, a different look, different voice patterns, but a similar willingness to take over or destroy the universe.

The next Thanos level opponent doesn't have to be female, but I think it'd be a lot easier for her to avoid comparison if she was. Besides, Marvel is all about powerful women right now. Why not extend that to the villain? It's not very often you can cover new ground in comics. So why not have a Thanos/Darkseid level villain who's a woman?

Kronika, not Cetrion.
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The next big overarching villain is going to be Annihilus. the Spider-Man Far From Home post credits scene with Fury sets up the MCU's goal to be mostly away from earth and focus on intergalactic heroes and threats.

And Thanos is supposedly going to return in the Eternals movie...but as a younger version of the one we saw in Endgame/IW.

They are also hoping to somehow do Galactus & Doctor Doom but working out the details.
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EvalAngell posted...

The next big overarching villain is going to be Annihilus. the Spider-Man Far From Home post credits scene with Fury sets up the MCU's goal to be mostly away from earth and focus on intergalactic heroes and threats.

And Thanos is supposedly going to return in the Eternals movie...but as a younger version of the one we saw in Endgame/IW.

They are also hoping to somehow do Galactus & Doctor Doom but working out the details.

I love how you state this like it's an actual report, not sheer speculation. Especially when there isn't going to be another big overarching villain.

OctilIery posted...

Especially when there isn't going to be another big overarching villain.

except there is and it is going to be Doom and/or Annihilus.
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Kajagogo posted...

Skye Reynolds posted...

You know, the comic publications themselves could be focused on creating new characters. Like, I would've thought about three or four years ago that they might wanna be working on a female Thanos or something. Not so much in terms of being the same type of character, but rather occupying the same role as a conclusive opponent.

It's like when a video game has a sequel and presents a new final boss. Cetrion from Mortal Kombat is not like Shao Kahn or Shinnok, but she's the final opponent of the most recent Mortal Kombat game. She occupies the same reletive role as her male predecessors. This character (whether she be a new character created or a preexistent character who's being promoted to cosmic status) needs a different demeanor, a different look, different voice patterns, but a similar willingness to take over or destroy the universe.

The next Thanos level opponent doesn't have to be female, but I think it'd be a lot easier for her to avoid comparison if she was. Besides, Marvel is all about powerful women right now. Why not extend that to the villain? It's not very often you can cover new ground in comics. So why not have a Thanos/Darkseid level villain who's a woman?

Make it Deathbird. With people like Gladiator, Hussar and Neutron on her side, she can pose a real threat.

https://imgur.com/MVrvWPY

That's extremely close to what I had in mind. Sort of a Maleficent meets Darth Vader look with the horn-like crests of her helmet suggesting she's sort of a comic book devil. If her strength is at the level it needs to be, or if a believable upgrade can be achieved, that's absolutely who I would vote for as the successor to Thanos as the franchise-level main villain.

With the acquisition of X-men maybe they can do Apocalypse right.
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Dr Doom would be amazeballs.

Come to think of it, so would Evil Reed Richards. Would certainly be more interesting than goody two shoes Reed.
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GeneralKenobi85 posted...

Skye Reynolds posted...

You know, the comic publications themselves could be focused on creating new characters. Like, I would've thought about three or four years ago that they might wanna be working on a female Thanos or something. Not so much in terms of being the same type of character, but rather occupying the same role as a conclusive opponent.

It's like when a video game has a sequel and presents a new final boss. Cetrion from Mortal Kombat is not like Shao Kahn or Shinnok, but she's the final opponent of the most recent Mortal Kombat game. She occupies the same reletive role as her male predecessors. This character (whether she be a new character created or a preexistent character who's being promoted to cosmic status) needs a different demeanor, a different look, different voice patterns, but a similar willingness to take over or destroy the universe.

The next Thanos level opponent doesn't have to be female, but I think it'd be a lot easier for her to avoid comparison if she was. Besides, Marvel is all about powerful women right now. Why not extend that to the villain? It's not very often you can cover new ground in comics. So why not have a Thanos/Darkseid level villain who's a woman?

Kronika, not Cetrion.

Ah, thanks.

You know what I meant. She's still different from her predecessors.

EvalAngell posted...

OctilIery posted...

Especially when there isn't going to be another big overarching villain.

except there is and it is going to be Doom and/or Annihilus.

There's not. They've stated this. The arcs are going to be much more self contained now, more like how phase 1 was than 2 or 3.

Skye Reynolds posted...

Besides, Marvel is all about powerful women right now. Why not extend that to the villain? It's not very often you can cover new ground in comics. So why not have a Thanos/Darkseid level villain who's a woman?

It's been my experience that the brownie points big companies tend to be chasing through the "Powerful Woman" trope tend not to come in when said powerful woman is evil.

At worst, the opposite happens, and Marvel takes backlash for "demonizing" female empowerment, or some shit.

At best, they are like Hela. A strong, evil woman. And nobody remembers or cares. And thus, no points either way.
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If F4 and X-men get rolled in, Onslaught is pretty much inevitable.

DarkBuster22904 posted...

It's been my experience that the brownie points big companies tend to be chasing through the "Powerful Woman" trope tend not to come in when said powerful woman is evil.

At worst, the opposite happens, and Marvel takes backlash for "demonizing" female empowerment, or some shit.

At best, they are like Hela. A strong, evil woman. And nobody remembers or cares. And thus, no points either way.

I would think that a strong female villain would be empowering since she defeats strong men and she goes against the girls are nice stereotype. But you're right. The types that tend to care about that are often the types that get upset if a woman is the villain or doesn't have some excuse to justify her actions.

Still, brownie points or not, I think a female villain would be unique since you rarely see a woman who is that "Avengers / Justice League / Dragon Ball Z warriors versus" level villain. What I'm wanting is sort of a better version of Hela.

Isn't Dormammu still alive? I mean the stones are gone so what's stopping him from dishonoring his deal with Dr. Strange?

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