Board 8 > Godzilla Mafia Topic 6: Persecution of the Masses

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MZero wasn't scum the last time I played with him. Wasn't he not scum in Han's game too? So not always scum. Scare is lying, lynch all liars, etc.
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Guys you ended day yesterday before I even woke up >_> I almost posted after deadline too!

BTW we can't ignore the possibility that Lea is scum. Nothing but innocent scans, which would be easy to fake if we're all town (and one of her scans was dead plum)

I mean, if she's alive if final 3 anyway. Not worth pursuing today
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I guess that should be after the stop, because it didn't go to deadline

ScareChan posted...

vote: mzero

He is always scum

Not anymore! The curse has been lifted!
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MZero11 posted...

BTW we can't ignore the possibility that Lea is scum. Nothing but innocent scans, which would be easy to fake if we're all town (and one of her scans was dead plum)

I mean, if she's alive if final 3 anyway. Not worth pursuing today

This would leave town with one tracker for scanning, vs a mafia team that is confirmed to have an untargetable *and* essentially a one shot ninja via the jack to counter it. The fourth role being godfather fits the best as well, and Lea's play was super towny this game. I haven't gotten to day 2 on my re-read yet but I'm pretty sure her behavior will add up with having scanned the Lolo/Scare slot when I get there, and it added up with putting me on her town list before she had any reason to know for sure what power town had and whether Corrik was lying or not (well, scum would know Corrik was probably lying but they wouldn't know if he was vanilla or not).

I don't consider her being scum a very plausible scenario, the setup makes more sense with cop/godfather, and her play makes more sense as town cop than anything else. It's technically possible but not a true concern I'd say.
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Panthera posted...

I don't consider her being scum a very plausible scenario, the setup makes more sense with cop/godfather, and her play makes more sense as town cop than anything else. It's technically possible but not a true concern I'd say.

I mean I agree it's very inprobable but just saying we can't ignore it if she's alive in final 3

God or Scare is the lynch today though
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To be honest, I'd rather be the lynch today so that way I know the mislynch is used on the most deserving slot.
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Well, topic 1 was a gigantic nothingburger as far as current players go. IGCD posted like twice, Corrik called him scum for his disclaimer about not caring, Ulti defended him but a bit less intensely (seemed more like he felt IGCD is too easy a target than actually reading him town). Lolo obviously didn't post. Sultan barely posted and just went after Firebolt and Ulti for oddball reasons. Only thing that really stood out was when the topic of players who hadn't posted yet came up, Blade listed the ones who hadn't and said he hadn't even realized Sultan existed until just then. I'd lean towards it being a bit likelier for that to be legit than for him to say it about someone on his actual team, but it's not conclusive.
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Leanansidhe posted...

I'm just baffled Mzero has thoughts on me before any thoughts on Scare or IGCD, especially considering I wouldn't even be on the table until tomorrow. But maybe it's townie to be that off the wall. I mean Red knew the writing on the wall vs me and didn't even consider the "scum fake claim" line. Plus it's still more than IGCD or Scare so far.

I'm actually kind of tempted to see it as an actual town paranoia thing. It's hard to have thoughts on Scare when he hasn't been playing and IGCD when he hasn't been playing and is now just trying to show off how sad he is, you and I are a lot easier to dig into and I'm an easier target for scum.
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Panthera posted...

Leanansidhe posted...

I'm just baffled Mzero has thoughts on me before any thoughts on Scare or IGCD, especially considering I wouldn't even be on the table until tomorrow. But maybe it's townie to be that off the wall. I mean Red knew the writing on the wall vs me and didn't even consider the "scum fake claim" line. Plus it's still more than IGCD or Scare so far.

I'm actually kind of tempted to see it as an actual town paranoia thing. It's hard to have thoughts on Scare when he hasn't been playing and IGCD when he hasn't been playing and is now just trying to show off how sad he is, you and I are a lot easier to dig into and I'm an easier target for scum.

I'm not sad, just not invested and I know if I'm not lynched today we lose tomorrow. Like I'm still obligated to not throw the game.
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Official Votals as of post 215

(1) MZero: Scare
(1) Scare: Lea

@ me with any errors
With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch

Leanansidhe posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Panthera posted...

Leanansidhe posted...

I'm just baffled Mzero has thoughts on me before any thoughts on Scare or IGCD, especially considering I wouldn't even be on the table until tomorrow. But maybe it's townie to be that off the wall. I mean Red knew the writing on the wall vs me and didn't even consider the "scum fake claim" line. Plus it's still more than IGCD or Scare so far.

I'm actually kind of tempted to see it as an actual town paranoia thing. It's hard to have thoughts on Scare when he hasn't been playing and IGCD when he hasn't been playing and is now just trying to show off how sad he is, you and I are a lot easier to dig into and I'm an easier target for scum.

I'm not sad, just not invested and I know if I'm not lynched today we lose tomorrow. Like I'm still obligated to not throw the game.

https://imgur.com/LQyEXQL

There's "not invested" and actively avoiding playing. Like maybe you wouldn't be mislynched and lose tomorrow if you try and do literally anything.

I followed chris to lynch 2 scum, and you for the third, because let's be real your fake scan on Red outed him hard.
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I'll tell you what, I don't work at all this weekend. I'll go back and reread the game and put together my thoughts. That way if you guys do use your mislynch on me there will be fresh content for everyone to use for the final 3 or 4 or how ever it turns out. I owe it to Corrik at least.
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Leanansidhe posted...

I had hoped you, at least, would make the end more interesting Scare

I have yet to read a single page this game in its entirety

I still have had better reads than most the game
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ScareChan posted...

Leanansidhe posted...

I had hoped you, at least, would make the end more interesting Scare

I have yet to read a single page this game in its entirety

I still have had better reads than most the game

This plus the MZero vote earlier this page gives the impression Scare is just trying to get himself written off as goofing around in a game he doesn't care about
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just lynch miz and win

if we go to final 3 I'll do shit
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Lea s the obvious kill tonight

who do you trust to figure shit out in f3
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Anyways, we got all weekend, I'm going to watch some stranger things right now and let my phone charge.
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ScareChan posted...

Lea s the obvious kill tonight

who do you trust to figure shit out in f3

Fucking not me lol
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Leanansidhe posted...

I'm just baffled Mzero has thoughts on me before any thoughts on Scare or IGCD, especially considering I wouldn't even be on the table until tomorrow. But maybe it's townie to be that off the wall. I mean Red knew the writing on the wall vs me and didn't even consider the "scum fake claim" line. Plus it's still more than IGCD or Scare so far.

I mean Scare probably has less posts than me somehow and IGCD did nothing but sheep all game soooo idk what to say about them!
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ScareChan posted...

Lea s the obvious kill tonight

who do you trust to figure shit out in f3

I'd much rather lynch based on who I think is scum than who I think would be most likely to mess up in f3

And if the standard is "who can be trusted to not choke in f3" the order here is like, IGCD >> Me > MZero > Scare/Lea

Any ability to trust you to figure shit out is dependent on A) You actually playing, and B) You actually being town
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I hope these gigantic chunks of hail that sound like they're breaking things outside don't knock out the power while I'm trying to read
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Topic 2 was even more of a nothingburger. Big juicy chunk of nothing drenched in absence and put between two pieces of non-existence.

Blade seemed to know Lolo was in the game despite not posting, though there had been discussion of inactives by that point. He also said that IGCD belonged on the "done absolutely nothing" list as a "random note" as if it was an actual read as opposed to what we all knew already. Posted about IGCD, HB and Popcorn then joked about the Rule of Three. Maybe that leans to the Scare/Lolo slot overall, since Blade was more conscious of Lolo than Sultan and the Rule of Three jokes was to cover that he was actually doing it? Though it would be cute to joke about the rule of three while actually listing two teammates instead of one.

Also, Sultan went off on a conspiracy theory about scum unleashing night zero scans to discover HB was town power and thought Ulti was scum because of it, which is noteworthy. Not sure if it's alignment indicative but it's hilarious. Actually I do lean to that being a bit too crazy to easily fabricate.
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Panthera posted...

I hope these gigantic chunks of hail that sound like they're breaking things outside don't knock out the power while I'm trying to read

Leanansidhe posted...

My power got knocked out a little while ago tonight, but it's back now. No hail here, just lazy electricity

I forgot you guys are near me. Should we just hope for an Northern Alberta final 3?
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Topic 3 featured Blade again bringing Lolo up very randomly, and Ulti arguing that IGCD randomly claiming vanilla for no reason is straight out of his town playbook. Sultan tried to hammer HB, or maybe didn't know what the votals were. I somehow suspect this is still more than I'm about to get from day 2, such as it was...
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I don't really see IGCD as the kind of guy to use his mental state as a gambit, which kind of makes me think he is legitimately not invested town
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Yo Scare did you ever actually claim
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Scare posted a bit more than I realized on day 2, but most of it was totally useless insistence on killing Ulti and ignoring the fact that he'd claimed mayor until it was pointed out repeatedly. Worth noting that he put Red to -1 after Blade had put him to -2. Blade brought this up some time later to say that Scare was escaping scrutiny too much for his role in the heinous murder of the second day of this game. This is like, the one point I can think of that's actually in favour of Scare, two scum players piling onto the bus in that situation and not unvoting with Corrik on the prowl is pretty wild. The mitigating factor is of course that Red let slip that he was very confident Ulti would mayor him, and it was pretty apparent Red would get lynched eventually regardless. Still, this is pretty much the strongest basis for a town argument on Scare that I can think of.
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On reread Sultan didn't look quite as bad as I thought before the Unspeakable Moment, though he did look bad to some degree. Worth noting though that when Plum started the push on him, Red chimed in to say he had forgotten at multiple points that Sultan was even playing. Tends to make me think Red was trying to nudge people into following that train. This was before it had become obvious Corrik would be the lynch.
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Whose around to talk because I can fairly easily clear myself with anyone who has any sense of my play at all
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I feel I'm basically a Scare expert
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I willtake itt

Give me q few to be at comp
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htaeD posted...

LD1 - HBtheBattle: Legendary Godzilla (Godzilla 2014), SCUM Roleblocker
KN1 - Sir Chris: Steve Martin (Godzilla: King of the Monsters), TOWN Vanilla
KN2 - Lopen: Mothra (Mothra VS Godzilla), TOWN Tracker
LD3 - Corrik: Jet Jaguar (Godzilla VS Megalon), TOWN Vanilla
KN3 - Popcorn-Fairy: MUTO (Godzilla 2014), TOWN Vanilla
KN3 - MasterPlum: Megaguirus (Godzilla VS Megaguirus), TOWN Vanilla
LD4 - Blade: Heisei Godzilla (The Return of Godzilla), SCUM Untargetable
KN4 - Firebolt: Gamera (Gamera), TOWN Doctor
LD5 - Red: Millennium Godzilla (Godzilla 2000), SCUM Jack
KN5 - Ulti: The Japanese Government (Shin Godzilla), TOWN Mayor
With 5 players alive, it takes 3 votes to reach a majority. Day will end on Sunday, August the 4th at 8PM EST or if majority is reached ahead of time.

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So I subbed in to start day 1. So that means that scum was only down a roleblocker and left on the scum team was an untargetable, a scum jack, and whatever else they have

The remaining scum once I replaced in was BLADE and RED

who, I'm not sure if you know me or not, but I fucking love to play scum with Red. And Chris was already dead? EZ PZ

So once I entered the game, I went after red like pretty much right away. If you have ever seen a scum game with me and Red i avoid the fuck out of him, and him mostly likewise. I called him out, cited a tell, and told everyone pile on.

Now a Red with me as his buddy is nowhere near dejected enough to roll over like that. Blade would not even matter in this case.

Beyond that, I defended Corrik as town prior to his lynch and gave reasoning why it was a bad decision. I almost always take a runaway corrik lynch because its always free and no one cares if you're wrong and you get no credit for being right

I also did not go after Plum, who I would have absolutely dunked as scum just because I could because theres a lot of love loss there
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That said, I don't think Red is too happy with me being left alive to f3. I am fairly sure that a majority of what he posted after rolling over was wifom mess and I simply decided to read *None* of it after he bitched about Blade.

That said, I have found the scum dear friends

##Unvote
##Vote: Panth

I recall catching him very quickly previously and he absolutely does not want to mess with me going foreward so he is going all in in hopes of getting me lynched today not to deal with me tomorrow when it would be a less than stellar situation omorrow for town.
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Can you remember any games off hand where you and red were scum together?
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God day 3 was such a clusterfuck lol

Biggest things that stuck out were the fact that it was Plum, not Blade, who originally suggested Scare could be godfather, but Blade did make a point repeatedly of trying to draw attention to Scare. Blade attacked HB on day 1, spent day 2 and 3 going for Red a lot, and also attacked Scare a fair bit. Blade might have just been in hardcore bus everyone mode, but I'm not sure how likely it is to try to encourage more pressure on a guy who isn't playing much but is also your teams last real hope. I kind of forgot that it didn't actually look set in stone that Blade would be the next lynch, it looked more like Red would be and Blade's absence day 4 is what sealed his fate, so Blade wouldn't have necessarily assumed he was about to die and make Scare look good for being attacked by him. Red also noted at one point that Lea, Scare and myself were not confirmed town in response to Corrik saying we were, so there seemed to be a joint effort to keep Scare open as a lynch option for scum.

IGCD was a bit more active than he's been otherwise to defend himself from Corrik's criticism. He noted that he saw no reason to buy Corrik or Blade as confirmed town and said at one point he'd follow up by voting Blade if Corrik flipped town. Corrik was still maintaining his Hider story at this point, so this could be a sign that IGCD forgot that his teammate Blade was supposedly being town cleared from what had been revealed openly.

I think day 3 in retrospect makes MZero look better overall, Scare a bit better, IGCD worse.
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Official Votals as of post 250

(1) Scare: Lea
(1) Panth: Scare
(0) MZero: (Scare)

@ me with any errors
With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch