Current Events > Reddit NEET proves that parents are obligated to take care of their kids forever

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I can't help but feel the rise of NEETs has to do with falling religiousness.

Religion afterall comes with the idea that you must work, if not for food then for a God to be found worthy.

Are NEETs usually athiest?

It seems they find no meaning in life beyond a hedonism gained from media and don't care to serve a greater purpose than gratifying themselves until death.

but presuming the kid outlives the parent, how can they really take care of them forever?

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FrozenXylophone posted...

I can't help but feel the rise of NEETs has to do with falling religiousness.

It has more to do with wanting to control your own destiny. And the exposure of social media. And having Trump as President.
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Sunburst posted...

FrozenXylophone posted...

I can't help but feel the rise of NEETs has to do with falling religiousness.

It has more to do with wanting to control your own destiny. And the exposure of social media. And having Trump as President.

Are you a NEET?

How does relying on other people control your own destiny?

I will never understand NEETs. It's one thing to not be able to mentally grasp on to society and it's another to be a complete lowlife while being super hostile and antagonizing to everyone because of said state. It's projection for sure.

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Shablagoo posted...

but presuming the kid outlives the parent, how can they really take care of them forever?

One way that could be achieved is to allow children to have access to their parents social security benefits just like how surviving spouses get their dead spouses' benefits. But I doubt the SS fund could support that many payouts.
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The thing is that NEETs aren't stupid. Just look at all the shit they write and post in their safe place forums. Their spelling and grammar and ideas are something from an angry person but with enough capabilities to come up with those ideas.

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Sunburst posted...

One way that could be achieved is to allow children to have access to their parents social security benefits just like how surviving spouses get their dead spouses' benefits. But I doubt the SS fund could support that many payouts.

That would be nice, Ive always felt it should be done that way tbh. Its not really fair for someone who works their whole life, dies a year after retirement, and then their spouse dies a year after that.

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REMercsChamp posted...

https://www.reddit.com/r/NEET/comments/ck0b96/parents_owe_it_to_kids_to_take_care_of_us_for_as/

Parents owe it to kids to take care of us for as long as we're alive. They brought us into this world against our will.

Look at it this way. You have the option of bringing a child into this world right now... there's a very real possibility that this child won't want to spend their life being wagecucked and slaving away for someone else their whole life. Sure, most of them will be fine with it - as is apparent in modern society - but just what if they are one of the chosen few who doesn't want to live like that?
The decisions a potential parent can make are:
A) Don't have the kid.
B) Have the kid, but the onus is on me to support it if they don't want to spend their life wagecucking.
C) Have the kid, but decide that if they don't wanna wagecuck, just throw them to the curb and let them starve to death.
Option C is the most popular one in today's society.

And the only moral decision at that. As long as the child is taking good faith efforts after high school to become financially independent, the parents are obligated to continue to support the child until such a time they can take care of themselves. A child that tries to laze around all day doing nothing constructive is to be given the state-required eviction notice and given the boot once their time is up.
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Shablagoo posted...

thanos hes saying if you dont work, youre forced to be destitute/homeless.

And 40% of working Americans have trouble paying their bills on a monthly basis so Im not sure what you said is even true tbh.

Oh my mistake on the first part. Yeah that's a given if you don't work you are destitute. That's just how our industrialized country work. I am not saying it's perfect, and no I don't like working 40 plus hours a week, but it is what it is until we as a country come up with something better. But the extreme opposite isn't going to help either. Just refusing to work and putting your needs on to someone else is just as bad. Somewhere there is a middle ground to be found.

I'm not rich by any means. And there are some months the bills are stressful. But I and my family have never been without needs at least. Maybe some wants from time to time. I've never been evicted or homeless either. And I've managed this with a high school education. And my wife can't work due to disability.

The thing that confounds me with people that don't want to work is the complete lack of any effort. I understand people have extenuating circumstances that I cannot see, but a complete lack of effort is not going to garner any sympathy from me. Especially when you do see people struggling but still trying to make the effort to help themselves. Even if it's taking advantage of government programs to get them back on their feet, or help them in slumps. I've done so myself in the 20 plus years I've been working.
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I think a lot of them are just severely mentally ill, like with major depression. A healthy mind doesnt want to just engage in hedonism and have no purpose at all in life other than that.

I dont know what the solution is though because we dont really have a great understanding of mental health and the way the brain works. I think a lot of so-called NEETs would rather be medically euthanized than A. work or B. be homeless on the streets.

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Why work though?
What is the point?
What is the point of life?

I think that is the problem.

Society has failed to answer these questions.

If you say to work to provide for loved ones they might say they don't have anyone they love so they don't care.

Shablagoo posted...

I dont know what the solution is though because we dont really have a great understanding of mental health and the way the brain works. I think a lot of so-called NEETs would rather be medically euthanized than A. work or B. be homeless on the streets.

That's fine, legalize Suicide Clinics.

If they don't want to be here, we should offer a quick, painless way out.

We can donate their organs to society.
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The purpose of life to become a rich Chad and have lots of kids. These Neets just b lazy

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KamenRiderBlade posted...

That's fine, legalize Suicide Clinics.

If they don't want to be here, we should offer a quick, painless way out.

We can donate their organs to society.

Ironically I feel the side that is most about bootstraps would never consider this idea in a million years. They have them in certain parts of Europe.

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Shablagoo posted...

Ironically I feel the side that is most about bootstraps would never consider this idea in a million years. They have them in certain parts of Europe.

I think you would be surprised, they might actually embrace the idea.
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Shablagoo posted...

I think a lot of them are just severely mentally ill, like with major depression. A healthy mind doesnt want to just engage in hedonism and have no purpose at all in life other than that.

I dont know what the solution is though because we dont really have a great understanding of mental health and the way the brain works. I think a lot of so-called NEETs would rather be medically euthanized than A. work or B. be homeless on the streets.

I don't remember if I have mentioned it in this thread or not, but I do get mental illness. My wife's anxiety and bi-polar are why she can't work. And she's been through the system trying to get help and unfortunately mental illness is harder of a disability to claim in the US courts than a physical disability. That said she has worked two times in our marriage to help make ends meet, until I could do it on my own again. So I am certainly not trying to sound callous towards those that do suffer from it.

I don't know either, because neither A or B is good. But if one doesn't have someone else to lean on I can imagine their outlook becoming grim and giving up.

FrozenXylophone posted...

Why work though?
What is the point?
What is the point of life?

I think that is the problem.

Society has failed to answer these questions.

If you say to work to provide for loved ones they might say they don't have anyone they love so they don't care.

That isn't society's responsibility though. That's something that you have to find within yourself. It why religions are so popular in all their forms. As well as other philosophical endevours man has made. It's not a cut and dry or black and white answer.

As far as why work? I guess that is for one to decide where your desire for your needs to be met and your moral compass is, as far as living off someone else.
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thanosibe posted...

I don't remember if I have mentioned it in this thread or not, but I do get mental illness. My wife's anxiety and bi-polar are why she can't work. And she's been through the system trying to get help and unfortunately mental illness is harder of a disability to claim in the US courts than a physical disability. That said she has worked two times in our marriage to help make ends meet, until I could do it on my own again. So I am certainly not trying to sound callous towards those that do suffer from it.

I don't know either, because neither A or B is good. But if one doesn't have someone else to lean on I can imagine their outlook becoming grim and giving up.

btw, any insight on this?

a friend told me because Ive been forcibly taken to a mental hospital before that they supposedly have to accept my disability claim. idk if that has any truth to it or not.

(Ive worked since I was 15 but these past couple years have been rough at best due to my mental issues worsening and worsening. Thankfully I have had people to lean on for the majority of these past few years.)

Yeah, I feel you man. Its awesome that you are there for your wife.


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thanosibe posted...

That isn't society's responsibility though. That's something that you have to find within yourself. It why religions are so popular in all their forms. As well as other philosophical endevours man has made. It's not a cut and dry or black and white answer.

As far as why work? I guess that is for one to decide where your desire for your needs to be met and your moral compass is, as far as living off someone else.

Then why is it society's business when men quit "life" in mass to lounge around?

Also, when society says having fun is all there is, it bears no responsibility when men say games are fun and they want to do nothing else?

Be yourself, enjoy life, just have fun.
"Ok. Inquit my job. Playing games 20 hours a day"

Are NEETs disproportionately men? If so, why?
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FrozenXylophone posted...

thanosibe posted...

That isn't society's responsibility though. That's something that you have to find within yourself. It why religions are so popular in all their forms. As well as other philosophical endevours man has made. It's not a cut and dry or black and white answer.

As far as why work? I guess that is for one to decide where your desire for your needs to be met and your moral compass is, as far as living off someone else.

Then why is it society's business when men quit "life" in mass to lounge around?

Also, when society says having fun is all there is, it bears no responsibility when men say games are fun and they want to do nothing else?

Be yourself, enjoy life, just have fun.
"Ok. Inquit my job. Playing games 20 hours a day"

If men (and women) are quitting "life" in mass it can effect the economy. Granted "in mass" is too general of term to determine the effects it would have on our capitalistic economy. But in large enough numbers it could. And that might be where "society" is coming from.

The rest I can't answer you. I've written this last paragraph like 5 times deleting it because I can't articulate what I want to say. But I think in the end, finding pride and working for yourself and being able to live off someone else with no plague of conscience is just two different mindsets that will probably never see eye to eye.
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FrozenXylophone posted...

thanosibe posted...

That isn't society's responsibility though. That's something that you have to find within yourself. It why religions are so popular in all their forms. As well as other philosophical endevours man has made. It's not a cut and dry or black and white answer.

As far as why work? I guess that is for one to decide where your desire for your needs to be met and your moral compass is, as far as living off someone else.

Then why is it society's business when men quit "life" in mass to lounge around?

Also, when society says having fun is all there is, it bears no responsibility when men say games are fun and they want to do nothing else?

Be yourself, enjoy life, just have fun.
"Ok. Inquit my job. Playing games 20 hours a day"

Its usually(and still has) been man througout history who were(are) expected to make the greatest personal and selfless sacrifices for society, and from all that hardwork came a family, property, authority, power and respect.

But nowadays no matter what a man does theres little chance of then obtaining any of that, no matter what career they earn, or family they settle down with. Society just doeasnt give a f*** anymore in mainstream. Even our very legal and welfare system is designed to replace their role and reduce them to nothing more then disposable atms.

The reason society cares more when man drop out is becuase we have no value outside of our sacrifice for said society. They expect everyman to just work still like a dog for nothing.

Video games on the other hand helps fill the voids in the virtual world that they dont receive in real life.
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