Poll of the Day > Would you ever buy a used laptop?

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Hulk_Krogan
08/02/19 3:49:36 AM
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I still need a laptop to replace the other one. This one looks like it has half-decent specs and is from a 5k+ rated reseller on ebay who has a lot of listings for the same unit but... idk, it's a used unit. I like saving money and I somewhat can't wait until Black Friday to get something

It's basically the following for $340

Operating System: Windows 10 Hardware Connectivity: DisplayPort, HDMI, USB 1.0/1.1, USB 2.0
Model:
HP ProBook 6560b
Most Suitable For: Casual Computing
Type: Notebook/Laptop Screen Size: 15.6 in
RAM Size: 8 GB Operating System Edition: Home
SSD Capacity: 500GB Graphics Processing Type: Integrated/On-Board Graphics
Features: 10/100 LAN Card, Built-in Microphone Storage Type: SSD (Solid State Drive)
Hard Drive Capacity: 500 GB MPN:
Does Not Apply
Color:
Bronze
Processor: Intel Core i7 2nd Gen.


Thoughts other than asking another board?
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miki_sauvester
08/02/19 4:42:03 AM
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yea
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GAMERJET
08/02/19 6:07:22 AM
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I would never buy a used laptop. Save up for something new. If your desperate for computer use, visit the public library. I work as a technology specialist and I see first hand just how many people mess up their laptops. Even if the specs seem decent, you won't know what component is potentially on its last legs.
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Trialia
08/02/19 6:10:36 AM
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I have done before, & they lasted me years. I've only ever had one brand new laptop, and that was when I got a compensation payment for something; I've never been able to afford one otherwise. Good models though. I always make sure to buy them in person, so I can make sure they function well.
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Mead
08/02/19 6:14:26 AM
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Depends who I was buying it from. Doubt I would buy it from just a stranger because Ive seen the condition some people keep their homes in and I wouldnt want to bring home a laptop infested with roaches or anything gross like that

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PMarth2002
08/02/19 7:15:28 AM
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Nah, i'd just buy a cheap one from wal-mart. They sell a few around the $300 range.
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dancer62
08/02/19 7:35:32 AM
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I always buy used electronics. If something is going to fail, it usually fails in the first few hours of operation, so the previous owner has already done the burn-in testing for you. If it works when you look at it in the pawnshop, it should keep working for years. If you're concerned about sanitation, wipe it down with handi-wipes.

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Red_Frog
08/02/19 10:02:37 AM
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Buying new notebooks is just pissing money down the drain, the price gouging and depreciation are staggering. Used notebooks can be a great deal, especially if you're looking at notebooks that weren't bottom shelf to begin with. Be sure you scrutinize their returns policy and warranty, even the larger and more competent refurbishers have some that fall through the cracks. If it looks like they have a ton of them it's usually a safe gamble, if something is wrong they'll either be able to replace the parts easily or simply swap the entire machine for a good one.

My daily drivers right now are HP EliteBooks and were bought used, they're tough machines and the ProBooks are close cousins. Just know there's a good chance you'll want/need to invest in a new battery, perhaps not initially but I'd guess within a year or 2. Not that these places intentionally ship out dead batteries, but this is an area that obviously gets the most basic of checks, and no battery lasts forever. Except for the one in my DS Lite, apparently that does actually last forever somehow.
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Fierce_Deity_08
08/02/19 10:35:22 AM
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Every laptop I have ever used is a hand-me-down from my mother. No problems yet, except the MacBook is slow and the disk drive doesnt work.
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VeeVees
08/02/19 11:40:47 AM
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No, I don't buy used.
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jramirez23
08/02/19 12:43:32 PM
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Maybe lol, but I would not trust the hard drive!

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Hulk_Krogan
08/02/19 1:39:14 PM
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GAMERJET posted...
I would never buy a used laptop. Save up for something new. If your desperate for computer use, visit the public library. I work as a technology specialist and I see first hand just how many people mess up their laptops. Even if the specs seem decent, you won't know what component is potentially on its last legs.


I kinda worry about security (ie, what software might be buried somewhere even though it looks like things were wiped) and life expectancy. However, I've also been thinking about how many thing I bought new that simply didn't last.

Back in late 2008, I paid a bit over $700 for a desktop pc (including a monitor) that I bought directly from Dell that only lasted until 2012 or 2013 (or maybe later? Hard to be sure). I thought buying direct from the manufacturer was the way to go, but the DVD-RW drive had issues and, when I finally bothered contacting them to get it resolved by the end of the warranty period, the repair tech mentioned that a cord had never been hooked up (so the drive itself was probably functional all along). The performance on the device was okay but it began to slow down and failed to consistently turn on during the last few months of its life. I'm not sure if it was a matter of the cooling system starting to fail (causing things to overheat?) or just the hard drive going.

When that died or was dying, I wound buying a HP Envy m6 from Office Max for again somewhere within the $700 range. My decision to move from desktop to laptop was, at the time, mostly just for personal convenience since it offered added mobility and access. I liked how it worked, it had a fingerprint scanner which I thought was really cool, a backlit keyboard, etc. Of course, I didn't buy a protection plan and within 2-3 years it had received enough damage to interfere with how the chassis closed (I think it might have been a gradual process where it wasn't connected to a specific drop. However, even before then, I realized that I didn't feel secure bringing the laptop with me everywhere outside the home -- because I was worried that if something happened to it, not only would I lose my personal files but it'd also screw up my work since I was telecommuting at the time as well as doing freelance work on the side.

The solution seemed to be to buy a cheaper, more disposable laptop to take with me so I could leave the other one at home. I found a Toshiba Satellite at Staples for $200 (or $250?). It was underpowered as hell and, within several months,I determined it was impossible to reasonably multitask on the device. I knew the specs were low, I just hadn't realized what that meant in terms of performance. Going forward, I realized I needed a minimum of a Pentium i5. The laptop still works (although it had an issue or two -- it wasn't turning off properly before I went to a relative's wedding, so I placed it in my basement and I worry that it might have also gotten dust in it at that point) and I've used it for minor things since getting my other laptop, just as a backup.

That brings me to laptop #3, a Lenovo... I can't remember. I picked it up on clearance at Best Buy maybe 2-4 years ago for about $350. The specs seemed reasonably comparable to my HP Envy but, instead of an Intel Core i5, it had an AMD A8 which, when I did some research, *looked* comparable. However, the performance was never quite on par with my HP Envy. I couldn't run as many programs at once, it never ran things as well, and my multitasking was limited (I gave up using graphics editing programs on it almost immediately, unless I was desperate; I also don't think I ever used Camtasia on it for video editing). Otherwise it works well enough and it's what I take with me when I'm at work, etc.
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Hulk_Krogan
08/02/19 1:39:38 PM
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(Continued)
When at home, I multitask between the HP Envy and the Lenovo, relying more on the HP Envy. However, the HP Envy was been increasingly failing. I *think* the issues started within the past month or two. Things came to a head when it blackscreened so, to resolve the program, I unplugged the device and let the battery run... and then later after it still hadn't loaded, I did the same thing... and again. I believe that attempted troubleshoot put it on its last legs since the performance has tanked. It'll be sluggish or near freeze for hours at times.

While I suppose I could get it repaired, the HP Envy has some significant damage as well. After I had that chassis closing issue, the thing had warped along the back to the point that I couldn't close it at all. Therefore whenever I went to move the laptop, I had to carry it as is. (I'm not 100% sure how the chassis issue came out, although I think it might have been accumulated micro-damage either from carrying it while open or taking bumps while open.) Eventually I dropped the unit, which basically separated the main part from the screen. The only thing still connecting the two pieces are the cords. It's been stationary and permanently propped up since. I had considered getting it repaired at the time, but moving it seemed a hassle and for a long time I couldn't take the down time. Plus I wasn't sure how the expense of a repair would stack up against just buying another unit and, of course, I also had the same security issues where they could install malware or gain access to something like my Paypal. Between the external and internal issues, I'm reasonably sure that the repairs now would cost roughly the same as getting another laptop/pc, if not more if I go with something like this.

tl;dr - I've always bought new in the past, but I haven't really seen a good value for it. And if I'm expecting something to last maybe 5 years max, I'm a *little* less concerned about that aspect of buying used although i worry about it crapping out within a year.

Granted, if things go really bad, I kinda wonder if I could harvest the parts from one to repair the other? I know that people are big on doing those kinds of changes for desktops. It's probably a lot harder on a laptop, but it's still doable, right?
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Trialia
08/02/19 2:04:08 PM
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Red_Frog posted...
... and no battery lasts forever. Except for the one in my DS Lite, apparently that does actually last forever somehow.


Lol, I know right? I have two of those, one black & one white (I managed to lose the first one for a long time, then found it again after I'd replaced it), both used. I've never needed to replace the battery for either of them, and they still charge well a decade or so later.
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LeetCheet
08/02/19 2:23:36 PM
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Can it play Overwatch though?
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Hulk_Krogan
08/02/19 4:35:50 PM
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Trialia posted...
Red_Frog posted...
... and no battery lasts forever. Except for the one in my DS Lite, apparently that does actually last forever somehow.


Lol, I know right? I have two of those, one black & one white (I managed to lose the first one for a long time, then found it again after I'd replaced it), both used. I've never needed to replace the battery for either of them, and they still charge well a decade or so later.


I have yet to need to replace the lithium battery in any of my handheld systems... except the DS Lite I bought used where the battery was completely borked somehow.

LeetCheet posted...
Can it play Overwatch though?


I don't see that as being a relevant question. I do kinda wonder how if I used Steam on both laptops (not simultaneously, mind you) how that might affect things. I'm guessing the save files are always stored locally, but does moving saves between laptops disable achievements/gamerscore/whatever?
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Revelation34
08/02/19 8:46:04 PM
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No. Buying any used electronic is really fucking stupid.
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LeetCheet
08/02/19 9:33:42 PM
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Hulk_Krogan posted...
I don't see that as being a relevant question.


I was just making a reference to a similar topic Komaiko54 made not too long ago where he asked us about cheap laptops and that it was particularly important for it to be able to play Overwatch for some reason despite him already having the game on a console.
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Hulk_Krogan
08/02/19 9:39:57 PM
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LeetCheet posted...
Hulk_Krogan posted...
I don't see that as being a relevant question.


I was just making a reference to a similar topic Komaiko54 made not too long ago where he asked us about cheap laptops and that it was particularly important for it to be able to play Overwatch for some reason despite him already having the game on a console.


Considering that I own Skyrim on the 360, ps3, and pc, plus I'm thinking of getting it for the Switch, I'm in no position to judge.
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ferko420
08/02/19 9:48:08 PM
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Consider what you are doing with it, not International hacking? Than who the fuck cares what yet browjng habits are..
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Hulk_Krogan
08/02/19 10:17:13 PM
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ferko420 posted...
Consider what you are doing with it, not International hacking? Than who the fuck cares what yet browjng habits are..


What?

If this is about what spyware could do to me, that would include getting my payment info, possibly my bank info, it could potentially leave me vulnerable to mischief (such as somebody using it in a botnet attack or to transfer illegal files), etc. Realistically, my concern is more the potential theft but there's a lot of crazy shit out there.
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ferko420
08/03/19 9:53:59 AM
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PayPal, and do your banking in person... Y'all see the /. Article yesterday 80% of anyone will connect to any open wireless they can and they say security isn't a concern, so why bother hacking your laptop traffic when the plebes will give you open access to their device?! Kinda gives new reason for wardriving!
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Mead
08/03/19 10:00:01 AM
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Even the big credit bureaus do a lousy job with securing user info. I can sympathize with folks who have just sort of thrown their hands up in the air and given up about going out of their way to keep all their data secure when all it takes is one incompetent employee at some corporation or government entity to get your data stolen.

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Mead
08/05/19 8:47:34 PM
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Probably some offensive and/or racist

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Trialia
08/05/19 9:06:42 PM
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ferko420 posted...
PayPal, and do your banking in person... Y'all see the /. Article yesterday 80% of anyone will connect to any open wireless they can and they say security isn't a concern, so why bother hacking your laptop traffic when the plebes will give you open access to their device?! Kinda gives new reason for wardriving!

*eyebrow* 80%, really? Glad I keep mine locked down, in that case.

What did HK get banned for? Anybody know?
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Aaantlion
08/05/19 9:53:28 PM
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ferko420 posted...
PayPal, and do your banking in person... Y'all see the /. Article yesterday 80% of anyone will connect to any open wireless they can and they say security isn't a concern, so why bother hacking your laptop traffic when the plebes will give you open access to their device?! Kinda gives new reason for wardriving!


I would never use paypal via an open wireless network.

Zangulus posted...
Rofl... Hk got banned too... I wonder what for.

Trialia posted...
What did HK get banned for? Anybody know?


You know how the mods always claim, "The only reason posts don't get moderated is because nobody marks them"? Well, HK marked quite a few -- direct name-calling (ie, flaming), people making jobs about people being hurt/killed, racist remarks, trolling, etc, and... the only person who got moderated was HK. Not even the name-calling (the most clear-cut of violations) got modded. Nothing.
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Mead
08/05/19 9:54:39 PM
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Can he go one day without having a self pity party about gamefaqs moderations

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wwinterj25
08/05/19 10:18:02 PM
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My dad did buy a laptop used. Hell this old PC I'm currently using is used. Nothing wrong with that.
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Trialia
08/06/19 1:43:50 AM
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Aaantlion posted...
ferko420 posted...
PayPal, and do your banking in person... Y'all see the /. Article yesterday 80% of anyone will connect to any open wireless they can and they say security isn't a concern, so why bother hacking your laptop traffic when the plebes will give you open access to their device?! Kinda gives new reason for wardriving!


I would never use paypal via an open wireless network.

Zangulus posted...
Rofl... Hk got banned too... I wonder what for.

Trialia posted...
What did HK get banned for? Anybody know?


You know how the mods always claim, "The only reason posts don't get moderated is because nobody marks them"? Well, HK marked quite a few -- direct name-calling (ie, flaming), people making jobs about people being hurt/killed, racist remarks, trolling, etc, and... the only person who got moderated was HK. Not even the name-calling (the most clear-cut of violations) got modded. Nothing.

*sigh* I wish that surprised me. Same thing happened to me, though thankfully only once.

It's one of the more problematic aspects of having a forum moderated by a group of its members, and with an indefinite degree of transparency or consistency on rules and enforcing them within the environment in question.

(I'm three quarters asleep, don't roast me for my formal phrasing )
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JazzMasterZero
08/06/19 1:58:13 AM
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Zangulus posted...
Aaantlion posted...
You know how the mods always claim, "The only reason posts don't get moderated is because nobody marks them"? Well, HK marked quite a few -- direct name-calling (ie, flaming), people making jobs about people being hurt/killed, racist remarks, trolling, etc, and... the only person who got moderated was HK. Not even the name-calling (the most clear-cut of violations) got modded. Nothing.


lol

Didnt he get another account banned for abusing the marked message system lol
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Aaantlion
08/06/19 2:18:32 AM
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Mead posted...
Can he go one day without having a self pity party about gamefaqs moderations


Can you go one day without trolling? They asked a question -- and you once again used the opportunity to cast aspersions -- so I answered it.

JazzMasterZero posted...
Didnt he get another account banned for abusing the marked message system lol


Not to my knowledge. Well, assuming you mean an account banned for marking and not another account banned period. That or I'm confusing which was banned for which. I think three were banned within 12 hours.
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JazzMasterZero
08/06/19 2:31:43 AM
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Aaantlion posted...
Not to my knowledge. Well, assuming you mean an account banned for marking and not another account banned period. That or I'm confusing which was banned for which. I think three were banned within 12 hours.

I thought you said in another topic your MarvelousCaptn account got banned for marking too many messages and now your Hulk_Krogan account got banned for the same thing.
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Aaantlion
08/06/19 2:42:18 AM
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Looks like HK got modded for an unspecified reason in the Corporate Welfare topic. Capn was the one that got banned for marking. Then iirc Taily Po got banned for "trolling" after a post mentioning that a user's posts didn't really get read.
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ChaosAzeroth
08/06/19 3:02:29 AM
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Depends.
This isn't going to end up like a creepypasta is it?
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Yellow
08/06/19 3:03:05 AM
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Those specs aren't an HP ProBook 6560b. The specs you listed are significantly stronger than what's in an HP ProBook 6560b.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B004RCOO68/ref=dp_olp_0?ie=UTF8&condition=all

Wipe the hard drive if you're afraid of malware. Make sure you have the Windows registration key before you do.
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Aaantlion
08/06/19 3:15:27 AM
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Zangulus posted...
Aaantlion posted...
Looks like HK got modded for an unspecified reason in the Corporate Welfare topic. Capn was the one that got banned for marking. Then iirc Taily Po got banned for "trolling" after a post mentioning that a user's posts didn't really get read.


I just went and looked, and you literally got banned for doing the same thing you did with multiple accounts prior to that... rofl.


Which one?

ChaosAzeroth posted...
Depends.
This isn't going to end up like a creepypasta is it?


I certainly hope not.

Yellow posted...
Those specs aren't an HP ProBook 6560b. The specs you listed are significantly stronger than what's in an HP ProBook 6560b.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B004RCOO68/ref=dp_olp_0?ie=UTF8&condition=all

Wipe the hard drive if you're afraid of malware. Make sure you have the Windows registration key before you do.


Oh, since posting this topic, I did ask the reseller about the backstory on these and he mentioned that he had upgraded the devices. I'll have to ask him if these come with... what should I ask for? The windows registration key or the original discs?

Ebay has some kind of an ebay bucks promo (10% if you do it on their app --- which I don't want to do... unless I can order on the app then use paypal on the laptop and still get credit -- vs 8% just through the site) going right now so I should probably decide whether or not to move ahead with this by tomorrow night while the promo is still active.
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Yellow
08/06/19 3:20:35 AM
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Nvm, after looking at the official specs there are apparently different specs for that notebook model.

https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c02782539

Nothing really fishy here.
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Trialia
08/06/19 4:35:22 PM
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I am now entirely too confused for my own good.

*sigh*
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DrPrimemaster
08/06/19 4:40:54 PM
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Used laptops are fine but the one in the OP seems overpriced
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Aaantlion
08/06/19 5:12:55 PM
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DrPrimemaster posted...
Used laptops are fine but the one in the OP seems overpriced


How so?
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Mead
08/06/19 5:17:47 PM
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Aaantlion posted...
How so?


The cost is more than it should be

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Aaantlion
08/06/19 6:00:06 PM
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Mead posted...
Aaantlion posted...
How so?


The cost is more than it should be


And how was that valuation reached?
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Mead
08/06/19 6:00:41 PM
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Aaantlion posted...
And how was that valuation reached?


Numerically.

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