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Lost_All_Senses
08/04/19 11:28:32 PM
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Kastrada posted...
Lost_All_Senses posted...
And let me guess. This was the same technique used during all those situations. Sounds like it's working out well. Keep at it I guess. My argument isn't defending her btw, so I don't need to know anymore about her life.


What exactly are you trying to say here? I'm not understanding your response.


Im saying. This whole shaming people everywhere but where they need to be shamed (By people in their actual life) has no impact and it just makes everywhere an angry place when it happens, instead of contained in the places that can actually do something about it. Do you realize how petty this shit is in the grand scheme of things in your actual life?

People give less of a fuck about stuff that happens to their actual extended family members than they do about this shit that has nothing to do with them.

Maybe Im just having an old man moment but this topic just hit me as particularly stupid. Im sure Ill pay attention to something in the future that makes this all feel hypocritical.
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cjsdowg
08/04/19 11:28:47 PM
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She is a nasty little troll.
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dave_is_slick
08/04/19 11:29:09 PM
#54:


Lost_All_Senses posted...
. My argument isn't defending her btw,
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Lost_All_Senses
08/04/19 11:32:26 PM
#55:


dave_is_slick posted...
Lost_All_Senses posted...
. My argument isn't defending her btw,
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Read the rest of my shit and it's pretty obvious my mind is on some whole other shit. Not grander shit, just other shit.
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Lost_All_Senses
08/04/19 11:33:54 PM
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I honestly just think everyone in this topic would be genuinely happier if they found a way to not give a fuck about this type of stuff. You guys are discussing a worm with clothes on.
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Kastrada
08/04/19 11:35:37 PM
#57:


Lost_All_Senses posted...
Im saying. This whole shaming people everywhere but where they need to be shamed (By people in their actual life) has no impact and it just makes everywhere an angry place when it happens, instead of contained in the places that can actually do something about it. Do you realize how petty this shit is in the grand scheme of things in your actual life?

People give less of a fuck about stuff that happens to their actual extended family members than they do about this shit that has nothing to do with them.


I've spent years volunteering/working with rape abuse victims at shelters and with students. I see a prominent figure in the #MeToo movement calling a victim a liar only to come out and say she was "simply defending a friend" and have no one call for her to be held accountable?

Yeah I'm going to feel a type of way. Victims already under-report as it is. So when a supposed ally does something like this, backtracks and admits their own lie with no repercussions? That's going to cast doubt on people to report their abuse.
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FarFromFields
08/04/19 11:37:25 PM
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And who can forget the time she made a huge deal about an athlete sitting next to her at a met gala not finding her pretty enough to talk to according to her? Shes poison for the current femenist movement.

The other fucked up thing about this is how heteronormative her reaction was. There's at least a 50% chance Odell Beckham Jr. is a closeted homosexual. I'm not shit posting either, that's my honest belief. If that's true, it's really messed up to put him on the spot for not hitting on a woman.
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Lost_All_Senses
08/04/19 11:40:44 PM
#59:


Kastrada posted...
Lost_All_Senses posted...
Im saying. This whole shaming people everywhere but where they need to be shamed (By people in their actual life) has no impact and it just makes everywhere an angry place when it happens, instead of contained in the places that can actually do something about it. Do you realize how petty this shit is in the grand scheme of things in your actual life?

People give less of a fuck about stuff that happens to their actual extended family members than they do about this shit that has nothing to do with them.


I've spent years volunteering/working with rape abuse victims at shelters and with students. I see a prominent figure in the #MeToo movement calling a victim a liar only to come out and say she was "simply defending a friend" and have no one call for her to be held accountable?

Yeah I'm going to feel a type of way. Victims already under-report as it is. So when a supposed ally does something like this, backtracks and admits their own lie with no repercussions? That's going to cast doubt on people to report their abuse.


How is this not blowing shit up? This is literally about a girl running up and kissing a dude and you go to talking about rape? I kind of just want to stop talking. It's way too high effort to talk with people that get to rape that fast.

Plus it's like you're reading off a teleprompter trying to hit bullet points now. Who the fuck said anything about blaming the victim or calling them a liar? You just threw a smoke grenade of wild shit and now Im just gonna run away from it. Peace
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Kastrada
08/04/19 11:44:35 PM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
How is this not blowing shit up? This is literally about a girl running up and kissing a dude and you go to talking about rape? I kind of just want to stop talking. It's way too high effort to talk with people that get to rape that fast.

Plus it's like you're reading off a teleprompter trying to hit bullet points now. Who the fuck said anything about blaming the victim? You just threw a smoke grenade of wild shit and now Im just gonna run away from it. Peace


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Did you not read my posts? Like your going off on people and you can't even read what people have said.

I'm bringing up her past actions. How she has a history of inappropriate/hypocritical stuff. The biggest thing she's done is calling a RAPE VICTIM A LIAR and she never had any blowback from that.
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joe40001
08/04/19 11:45:55 PM
#61:


FarFromFields posted...
JuanCarlos1 posted...
And who can forget the time she made a huge deal about an athlete sitting next to her at a met gala not finding her pretty enough to talk to according to her? Shes poison for the current femenist movement.

The other fucked up thing about this is how heteronormative her reaction was. There's at least a 50% chance Odell Beckham Jr. is a closeted homosexual. I'm not shit posting either, that's my honest belief. If that's true, it's really messed up to put him on the spot for not hitting on a woman.


There was also the time she and her co-producers on her show got outraged because a reviewer had the gall to ask "hey what's up with all the nudity on the show?"

https://www.thewrap.com/judd-apatow-lena-dunham-get-mad-asking-shes-naked-much-girls/
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cjsdowg
08/04/19 11:51:34 PM
#62:


Lost_All_Senses posted...

How is this not blowing shit up? This is literally about a girl running up and kissing a dude and you go to talking about rape? I kind of just want to stop talking. It's way too high effort to talk with people that get to rape that fast.


She is big about consent and all this Me too stuff. and tried to french someone out of the blue .
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Lost_All_Senses
08/04/19 11:54:45 PM
#63:


Kastrada posted...
Lost_All_Senses posted...
How is this not blowing shit up? This is literally about a girl running up and kissing a dude and you go to talking about rape? I kind of just want to stop talking. It's way too high effort to talk with people that get to rape that fast.

Plus it's like you're reading off a teleprompter trying to hit bullet points now. Who the fuck said anything about blaming the victim? You just threw a smoke grenade of wild shit and now Im just gonna run away from it. Peace


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Did you not read my posts? Like your going off on people and you can't even read what people have said.

I'm bringing up her past actions. How she has a history of inappropriate/hypocritical stuff. The biggest thing she's done is calling a RAPE VICTIM A LIAR and she never had any blowback from that.


I already said I don't want to talk about her. You also ignored what you didn't want to address in my posts and brought me back into discussing this chick I don't care to talk about. You still never told me the positive impact that all this has. What is getting upset and posting online doing for you and the people she has wronged? You could say you get satisfaction from just discussing it and that is a respectable answer. Like, most of us don't even have stuff to learn here. We know the wrongs and rights here and would never mistake them. Id understand if we could learn something from discussing this. If you know something we can learn from it Id also be interested in hearing that. It's just deja vu, see you next month for the same shit.
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Goats
08/04/19 11:55:54 PM
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Oh my God America needs to grow the fuck up when it comes to intimacy or sex

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Lost_All_Senses
08/04/19 11:56:55 PM
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Also, I realize Im in a topic talking about how I don't want to discuss the chick it's about, but I also attempted to end the conversation respectfully and you kept going.
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Bluharvest
08/05/19 12:02:26 AM
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This guy really living up to his username
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IShall_Run_Amok
08/05/19 12:03:18 AM
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At least she didn't hit him over the head with her tiny furniture.
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Lost_All_Senses
08/05/19 12:05:22 AM
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Bluharvest posted...
This guy really living up to his username


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Kastrada
08/05/19 12:13:40 AM
#69:


Lost_All_Senses posted...
You still never told me the positive impact that all this has. What is getting upset and posting online doing for you and the people she has wronged?


Again.....victims under report as it is. Her actions towards victims being ignored or cast aside casts a pall on others.

They see another victim speak out. And the negative response (Lena's past actions). And no one calling her out. They see a movement that won't support them. That doesn't care for them. And thus they won't report their abuse.
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Lost_All_Senses
08/05/19 12:24:58 AM
#70:


Kastrada posted...
Lost_All_Senses posted...
You still never told me the positive impact that all this has. What is getting upset and posting online doing for you and the people she has wronged?


Again.....victims under report as it is. Her actions towards victims being ignored or cast aside casts a pall on others.

They see another victim speak out. And the negative response (Lena's past actions). And no one calling her out. They see a movement that won't support them. That doesn't care for them. And thus they won't report their abuse.


Posting on gamefaqs isn't a movement. You're dancing around my questions. You're trying to make me appear to be saying that victims shouldn't have support and should be completely ignored. When what is obvious is that Im saying is that support ends somewhere and becomes a bunch of far away people with no power or want to be in actual movements.

This area of it is people who want to act like they care but not actually do anything to show they care. No one here is even joining an online movement where they still wouldn't even have to actually move for it. You of all people should know the difference between pretending to care and actually doing something
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dave_is_slick
08/05/19 12:26:48 AM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
Posting on gamefaqs isn't a movement. You're dancing around my questions. You're trying to make me appear to be saying that victims shouldn't have support and should be completely ignored. When what is obvious is that Im saying is that support ends somewhere and becomes a bunch of far away people with no power or want to be in actual movements.

This area of it is people who want to act like they care but not actually do anything to show they care. No one here is even joining an online movement where they still wouldn't even have to actually move for it. You of all people should know the difference between pretending to care and actually doing something
Shut the fuck up. This was mildly amusing at first but this concern trolling is fucking old.

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Lost_All_Senses
08/05/19 12:28:25 AM
#72:


dave_is_slick posted...
Lost_All_Senses posted...
Posting on gamefaqs isn't a movement. You're dancing around my questions. You're trying to make me appear to be saying that victims shouldn't have support and should be completely ignored. When what is obvious is that Im saying is that support ends somewhere and becomes a bunch of far away people with no power or want to be in actual movements.

This area of it is people who want to act like they care but not actually do anything to show they care. No one here is even joining an online movement where they still wouldn't even have to actually move for it. You of all people should know the difference between pretending to care and actually doing something
Shut the fuck up. This was mildly amusing at first but this concern trolling is fucking old.


Concern trolling lol. That's a new one.
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Kastrada
08/05/19 12:51:20 AM
#73:


Lost_All_Senses posted...
Posting on gamefaqs isn't a movement.


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The #MeToo movement.....has done NOTHING to slam Lena Dunham for her actions. Zero.

So online outrage (Twitter, Insta, Twitch, here, honestly wherever) that is calling Dunham out is a GOOD THING. Regardless of who does it. Because if the movement of victims isn't holding one of their own accountable for her actions towards victims, then the movement isn't doing what it needs to do.
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dave_is_slick
08/05/19 12:51:26 AM
#74:


Lost_All_Senses posted...
Concern trolling lol
Maybe if you've lived under a mountain all this time.

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Lost_All_Senses
08/05/19 12:54:14 AM
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Goodnight. I gotta get up for tubing tomorrow. Appreciate the company.
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SuperExcitebike
08/05/19 12:54:31 AM
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How many times is she going to get away with sexual harassment?
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cjsdowg
08/05/19 5:54:40 AM
#77:


SuperExcitebike posted...
How many times is she going to get away with sexual harassment?


I was going to say that she is a rich white women so no would ever come after her. However Carbi D rape people, and people running for President trying to get her support. So I think her sex gets a her pass to do horrible things.

Back to Lena, her actions with her sister, should have been it for her career. Publications that me as Liberal would go to all the time played down her actions. Saying things like oh it just happened when she was 7. But know her pattern of abuse kept going on, she admitted it and she even outed her sister. So fuck her and fuck all the hollywood people who gloss over what she has done in the past .
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Kastrada
08/05/19 6:02:07 AM
#78:


cjsdowg posted...
However Carbi D rape people


Cardi didn't rape anyone....
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MrPeppers
08/05/19 6:30:13 AM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
Sinking to everyone elses level is exactly why everyone hates everyone. At some point someone has to be the bigger person. Or we keep dramatizing everything to get back at people who dramatize things. I have a feeling America is gonna continue taking the latter route


Agreed, but at the same time intentionally ignoring the hypocrisy is equally as counter-productive, as it lends credence to particularly problematic behaviors.

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cjsdowg
08/05/19 6:34:59 AM
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Kastrada posted...
cjsdowg posted...
However Carbi D rape people


Cardi didn't rape anyone....


She admired to getting guys wasted and tricking them into have sex with transsexual people, as pay back. Taking advantage of a drunk person is a form of rape. But thanks for proving my point about the pass women get.
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Kastrada
08/05/19 6:51:41 AM
#81:


cjsdowg posted...
She admired to getting guys wasted and tricking them into have sex with transsexual people, as pay back. Taking advantage of a drunk person is a form of rape. But thanks for proving my point about the pass women get.


No.....there are two controversial clips she has and people are mixing them together.

She admitted to, when she was a stripping, taking guys to a hotel, spiking their drinks, and robbing them. She never said she "fucked" them (aka rape) nor has anyone came out and claimed she raped them. She was wrong and fucked up for doing that but from all sources involved, there was nothing else.

The second clip was her shit talking. She was talking future tense in that video. She was talking about getting even with a dude and saying that's what she would do, not what she did. Which is also fucked up.

Should Cardi be called out for that shit? Yes absolutely. But there was no rape in either instance. It was a drugging/robbery and a shit-talking fantasy. Both things being awful.

If we are going to call people out on their shit, be accurate. And as for this part:

cjsdowg posted...
But thanks for proving my point about the pass women get.


No fuck that. I've been calling out Lena Dunhan every time I post in this topic. Asia Argento groomed that young boy and Rose McGowan "stood up" for a rapist. All of those female teachers that rape their students are sick and need to be put in prison.

If anything, the general lack of support for male victims, people of color, and QUILTBAG individuals pissed me off with the #MeToo movement.
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pinky0926
08/05/19 6:54:52 AM
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Imagine being literally Brad Pitt and having that gremlin try and kiss you

Jesus Christ
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cjsdowg
08/05/19 7:02:57 AM
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No.....there are two controversial clips she has and people are mixing them together.


I have seen both videos. Her video where she drops the T word talks about raping people does not seem like she is just saying what she would do. It seems like she is talking about how she does things.

Also I am sorry if I jumped the gun suggesting you didn't care.
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shnangyboos
08/05/19 7:05:13 AM
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Man, if quiltbag becomes this standard thing it's gonna be pretty funny.

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Kastrada
08/05/19 7:08:15 AM
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shnangyboos posted...
Man, if quiltbag becomes this standard thing it's gonna be pretty funny.


Seriously though, it's so much better that LGBT.

1. It's way more encompassing.

2. It's much easier to remember.

3. It's got a accidental connection to the AIDs quilt from the late 80's/early 90's.
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Kastrada
08/05/19 7:13:00 AM
#86:


cjsdowg posted...
I have seen both videos. Her video where she drops the T word talks about raping people does not seem like she is just saying what she would do. It seems like she is talking about how she does things.


When I first heard it, it just sounded like some NY street talk shit. NYC rappers especially like to talk about grimey shit like that.

cjsdowg posted...
Also I am sorry if I jumped the gun suggesting you didn't care.


No it's fine. I do think we get "pass" in the harassment department but it's wrong. I'm an old school feminist like that. Lena should get just as much shit from society if roles were switched.

Side note: It's totally okay for something like that to happen if it's with friends and consensual. Like Julia Louis-Dreyfus won an Emmy and Bryan Cranston ran up and made out with her. Stuff like that is fine but I really, really doubt that Lena and Brad Pitt have that type of history/relationship. >_>
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TommyG663513
08/06/19 10:19:00 PM
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Lena Dunham is representative of very one sided feminism
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08/06/19 10:20:27 PM
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