Board 8 > Shooting in El Paso, looks like 20 dead

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v_charon 08/04/19 1:14:07 PM #101:	Nelson_Mandela posted... That's EXACTLY the wrong thing to do. Then you associate anyone who doesn't like illegal immigration with actual white supremacist killers. You piss off an entire group of decent people by linking their benign political opinions to mass murder. Denounce MURDER, not motivation and you will start to see a more unified nation. Trump didn't need to refer to Mexicans as bandits and rapists, and claim that only the worst Mexico had to offer were being sent over to the US, did he? If he was really just against illegal immigration, why demonize this entire group by creating a fantasy that they were bad and dangerous people? By doing this, he inspired idiots to take up arms against them because he confirmed their already deranged beliefs that Mexican people are bad and must be stopped. --- :> Truly smilin' <cite>v_charon posted [p:925608176] in Shooting i... [t:77912710]...</cite> <quote>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote> That's EXACTLY the wrong thing to do. Then you associate anyone who doesn't like illegal immigration with actual white supremacist killers. You piss off an entire group of decent people by linking their benign political opinions to mass murder. Denounce MURDER, not motivation and you will start to see a more unified nation.</quote> Trump didn't need to refer to Mexicans as bandits and rapists, and claim that only the worst Mexico had to offer were being sent over to the US, did he? If he was really just against illegal immigration, why demonize this entire group by creating a fantasy that they were bad and dangerous people? By doing this, he inspired idiots to take up arms against them because he confirmed their already deranged beliefs that Mexican people are bad and must be stopped.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 08/04/19 1:15:02 PM #102:	Why does anyone think it's important to specifically call out the political motivations of a killer? Are we preventing future shootings by labeling these people as white supremacists? Please walk me through how that changes anything. --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:925608213] in Shooting i... [t:77912710]...</cite> <quote>Why does anyone think it's important to specifically call out the political motivations of a killer? Are we preventing future shootings by labeling these people as white supremacists? Please walk me through how that changes anything.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 08/04/19 1:16:07 PM #103:	v_charon posted... Nelson_Mandela posted... That's EXACTLY the wrong thing to do. Then you associate anyone who doesn't like illegal immigration with actual white supremacist killers. You piss off an entire group of decent people by linking their benign political opinions to mass murder. Denounce MURDER, not motivation and you will start to see a more unified nation. Trump didn't need to refer to Mexicans as bandits and rapists, and claim that only the worst Mexico had to offer were being sent over to the US, did he? If he was really just against illegal immigration, why demonize this entire group by creating a fantasy that they were bad and dangerous people? By doing this, he inspired idiots to take up arms against them because he confirmed their already deranged beliefs that Mexican people are bad and must be stopped. And wouldn't calling white males out for being the most common terrorists cause idiots to take up arms and attempt to stop them? --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:925608257] in Shooting i... [t:77912710]...</cite> <quote>v_charon posted...</cite> <quote>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote> That's EXACTLY the wrong thing to do. Then you associate anyone who doesn't like illegal immigration with actual white supremacist killers. You piss off an entire group of decent people by linking their benign political opinions to mass murder. Denounce MURDER, not motivation and you will start to see a more unified nation.</quote> Trump didn't need to refer to Mexicans as bandits and rapists, and claim that only the worst Mexico had to offer were being sent over to the US, did he? If he was really just against illegal immigration, why demonize this entire group by creating a fantasy that they were bad and dangerous people? By doing this, he inspired idiots to take up arms against them because he confirmed their already deranged beliefs that Mexican people are bad and must be stopped.</quote> And wouldn't calling white males out for being the most common terrorists cause idiots to take up arms and attempt to stop them?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leafeon13N 08/04/19 1:16:17 PM #104:	Nelson_Mandela posted... Why does anyone think it's important to specifically call out the political motivations of a killer? Are we preventing future shootings by labeling these people as white supremacists? Please walk me through how that changes anything. Yes. <cite>Leafeon13N posted [p:925608262] in Shooting i... [t:77912710]...</cite> <quote>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote>Why does anyone think it's important to specifically call out the political motivations of a killer? Are we preventing future shootings by labeling these people as white supremacists? Please walk me through how that changes anything.</quote> Yes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 08/04/19 1:16:58 PM #105:	Leafeon13N posted... Yes. How many have you prevented??? --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Division 2 <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:925608289] in Shooting i... [t:77912710]...</cite> <quote>Leafeon13N posted... </cite> <quote>Yes.</quote>How many have you prevented??? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 08/04/19 1:17:35 PM #106:	Leafeon13N posted... Nelson_Mandela posted... Why does anyone think it's important to specifically call out the political motivations of a killer? Are we preventing future shootings by labeling these people as white supremacists? Please walk me through how that changes anything. Yes. Please explain. --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:925608310] in Shooting i... [t:77912710]...</cite> <quote>Leafeon13N posted...</cite> <quote>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote>Why does anyone think it's important to specifically call out the political motivations of a killer? Are we preventing future shootings by labeling these people as white supremacists? Please walk me through how that changes anything.</quote> Yes.</quote> Please explain.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leafeon13N 08/04/19 1:18:39 PM #107:	No <cite>Leafeon13N posted [p:925608337] in Shooting i... [t:77912710]...</cite> <quote>No</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
v_charon 08/04/19 1:19:01 PM #108:	Nelson_Mandela posted... And wouldn't calling white males out for being the most common terrorists cause idiots to take up arms and attempt to stop them? Oh yeah, sure. That's definitely a plausible scenario. rolls eyes I thought by putting Vlado and Ulti on ignore/block I could participate in these topics but man oh man. --- :> Truly smilin' <cite>v_charon posted [p:925608347] in Shooting i... [t:77912710]...</cite> <quote>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote> And wouldn't calling white males out for being the most common terrorists cause idiots to take up arms and attempt to stop them?</quote> Oh yeah, sure. That's definitely a plausible scenario. rolls eyes I thought by putting Vlado and Ulti on ignore/block I could participate in these topics but man oh man.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 08/04/19 1:20:17 PM #109:	v_charon posted... Nelson_Mandela posted... And wouldn't calling white males out for being the most common terrorists cause idiots to take up arms and attempt to stop them? Oh yeah, sure. That's definitely a plausible scenario. rolls eyes I thought by putting Vlado and Ulti on ignore/block I could participate in these topics but man oh man. It's the exact same logic you're using when you say Trump's rhetoric caused these people to shoot Hispanics. --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:925608396] in Shooting i... [t:77912710]...</cite> <quote>v_charon posted...</cite> <quote>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote> And wouldn't calling white males out for being the most common terrorists cause idiots to take up arms and attempt to stop them?</quote> Oh yeah, sure. That's definitely a plausible scenario. rolls eyes I thought by putting Vlado and Ulti on ignore/block I could participate in these topics but man oh man.</quote> It's the exact same logic you're using when you say Trump's rhetoric caused these people to shoot Hispanics.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 08/04/19 1:20:35 PM #110:	Nelson_Mandela posted... Why does anyone think it's important to specifically call out the political motivations of a killer? Are we preventing future shootings by labeling these people as white supremacists? Please walk me through how that changes anything. How do you cure cancer without diagnosing it? Answer that or get the hell out of the way with your "essential oils" and "positive thinking" alternative medicine --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:925608409] in Shooting i... [t:77912710]...</cite> <quote>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote>Why does anyone think it's important to specifically call out the political motivations of a killer? Are we preventing future shootings by labeling these people as white supremacists? Please walk me through how that changes anything.</quote> How do you cure cancer without diagnosing it? Answer that or get the hell out of the way with your "essential oils" and "positive thinking" alternative medicine</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 08/04/19 1:22:06 PM #111:	foolm0r0n posted... Nelson_Mandela posted... Why does anyone think it's important to specifically call out the political motivations of a killer? Are we preventing future shootings by labeling these people as white supremacists? Please walk me through how that changes anything. How do you cure cancer without diagnosing it? Answer that or get the hell out of the way with your "essential oils" and "positive thinking" alternative medicine Vaccination. Owned. --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:925608462] in Shooting i... [t:77912710]...</cite> <quote>foolm0r0n posted...</cite> <quote>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote>Why does anyone think it's important to specifically call out the political motivations of a killer? Are we preventing future shootings by labeling these people as white supremacists? Please walk me through how that changes anything.</quote> How do you cure cancer without diagnosing it? Answer that or get the hell out of the way with your "essential oils" and "positive thinking" alternative medicine</quote> Vaccination. Owned.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leafeon13N 08/04/19 1:22:23 PM #112:	Remember when these white assholes got all hyped up for the phrase Radical Islamic Terrorism. But oh no, dont call these people what they are. <cite>Leafeon13N posted [p:925608472] in Shooting i... [t:77912710]...</cite> <quote>Remember when these white assholes got all hyped up for the phrase Radical Islamic Terrorism. But oh no, dont call these people what they are.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
v_charon 08/04/19 1:22:41 PM #113:	Nelson_Mandela posted... It's the exact same logic you're using when you say Trump's rhetoric caused these people to shoot Hispanics. It is. The big difference is 3 people in a single week haven't killed 33 people because "I wanted to see whitey dead". --- :> Truly smilin' <cite>v_charon posted [p:925608488] in Shooting i... [t:77912710]...</cite> <quote>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote> It's the exact same logic you're using when you say Trump's rhetoric caused these people to shoot Hispanics.</quote> It is. The big difference is 3 people in a single week haven't killed 33 people because "I wanted to see whitey dead".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 08/04/19 1:23:30 PM #114:	Nelson_Mandela posted... And wouldn't calling white males out for being the most common terrorists cause idiots to take up arms and attempt to stop them? The most common terrorists are white males. Anyone can see that with their own eyes. There is no calling out, there is no rhetoric, there is no incitement. The flaw would be to say, because most common terrorists are white males, you need to be afraid of white males in general. That you need to kill tjhem. That is what Trump does with immigrants. No one is doing that for white males and anyone who does that needs to be condemned, as Trump and nationalists and supremacists need to be condemned. --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:925608529] in Shooting i... [t:77912710]...</cite> <quote>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote>And wouldn't calling white males out for being the most common terrorists cause idiots to take up arms and attempt to stop them?</quote> The most common terrorists are white males. Anyone can see that with their own eyes. There is no calling out, there is no rhetoric, there is no incitement. The flaw would be to say, because most common terrorists are white males, you need to be afraid of white males in general. That you need to kill tjhem. That is what Trump does with immigrants. No one is doing that for white males and anyone who does that needs to be condemned, as Trump and nationalists and supremacists need to be condemned.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 08/04/19 1:24:12 PM #115:	Leafeon13N posted... Remember when these white assholes got all hyped up for the phrase Radical Islamic Terrorism. But oh no, dont call these people what they are. Sephy already said it, Red. Muslims are enough of a minority that they can't fight back if you demonize the whole group for the actions of the few. But don't you DARE attack white men, because they're more important. Duh. /s --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:925608555] in Shooting i... [t:77912710]...</cite> <quote>Leafeon13N posted...</cite> <quote>Remember when these white assholes got all hyped up for the phrase Radical Islamic Terrorism. But oh no, dont call these people what they are.</quote> Sephy already said it, Red. Muslims are enough of a minority that they can't fight back if you demonize the whole group for the actions of the few. But don't you DARE attack white men, because they're more important. Duh. /s</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 08/04/19 1:25:10 PM #116:	Nelson_Mandela posted... Vaccination. Owned. Is this a joke about anti-vac or something or do you actually think vaccines are related to cancer? --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:925608587] in Shooting i... [t:77912710]...</cite> <quote>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote>Vaccination. Owned.</quote> Is this a joke about anti-vac or something or do you actually think vaccines are related to cancer?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 08/04/19 1:25:11 PM #117:	Nelson_Mandela posted... Vaccination. Owned. You do realize that we diagnosed and studied in order to develop vaccines, right? --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:925608589] in Shooting i... [t:77912710]...</cite> <quote>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote>Vaccination. Owned.</quote> You do realize that we diagnosed and studied in order to develop vaccines, right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 08/04/19 1:25:53 PM #118:	v_charon posted... Nelson_Mandela posted... It's the exact same logic you're using when you say Trump's rhetoric caused these people to shoot Hispanics. It is. The big difference is 3 people in a single week haven't killed 33 people because "I wanted to see whitey dead". Don't think it won't happen soon. Remember when a gunman murdered NYPD officers because he believed cops were evil? --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:925608620] in Shooting i... [t:77912710]...</cite> <quote>v_charon posted...</cite> <quote>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote> It's the exact same logic you're using when you say Trump's rhetoric caused these people to shoot Hispanics.</quote> It is. The big difference is 3 people in a single week haven't killed 33 people because "I wanted to see whitey dead".</quote> Don't think it won't happen soon. Remember when a gunman murdered NYPD officers because he believed cops were evil?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 08/04/19 1:26:37 PM #119:	foolm0r0n posted... Nelson_Mandela posted... Vaccination. Owned. Is this a joke about anti-vac or something or do you actually think vaccines are related to cancer? Uhh there are cancer vaccines dude. I have worked on one of them. --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:925608644] in Shooting i... [t:77912710]...</cite> <quote>foolm0r0n posted...</cite> <quote>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote>Vaccination. Owned.</quote> Is this a joke about anti-vac or something or do you actually think vaccines are related to cancer?</quote> Uhh there are cancer vaccines dude. I have worked on one of them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 08/04/19 1:28:23 PM #120:	Nelson_Mandela posted... Uhh there are cancer vaccines dude. I have worked on one of them. How did they come up with it? Take your analogy to the end --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:925608713] in Shooting i... [t:77912710]...</cite> <quote>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote>Uhh there are cancer vaccines dude. I have worked on one of them.</quote> How did they come up with it? Take your analogy to the end</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 08/04/19 1:28:33 PM #121:	Inviso posted... Leafeon13N posted... Remember when these white assholes got all hyped up for the phrase Radical Islamic Terrorism. But oh no, dont call these people what they are. Sephy already said it, Red. Muslims are enough of a minority that they can't fight back if you demonize the whole group for the actions of the few. But don't you DARE attack white men, because they're more important. Duh. /s Literally yes. If you want the blowback of a government dominated by the GOP for more decades to come, by all means keep alienating white men. --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:925608717] in Shooting i... [t:77912710]...</cite> <quote>Inviso posted...</cite> <quote>Leafeon13N posted...</cite> <quote>Remember when these white assholes got all hyped up for the phrase Radical Islamic Terrorism. But oh no, dont call these people what they are.</quote> Sephy already said it, Red. Muslims are enough of a minority that they can't fight back if you demonize the whole group for the actions of the few. But don't you DARE attack white men, because they're more important. Duh. /s</quote> Literally yes. If you want the blowback of a government dominated by the GOP for more decades to come, by all means keep alienating white men.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 08/04/19 1:30:51 PM #122:	foolm0r0n posted... The flaw would be to say, because most common terrorists are white males, you need to be afraid of white males in general. Many leftist politicians are absolutely doing that now. My whole entrance into the topic is that if presidential candidates start talking like this, their party is doomed. --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:925608819] in Shooting i... [t:77912710]...</cite> <quote>foolm0r0n posted...</cite> <quote>The flaw would be to say, because most common terrorists are white males, you need to be afraid of white males in general. </quote> Many leftist politicians are absolutely doing that now. My whole entrance into the topic is that if presidential candidates start talking like this, their party is doomed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
v_charon 08/04/19 1:32:53 PM #123:	But they aren't actually doing that. You, as one of these nationalists apparently, are just taking personal offense. People who aren't white nationalists aren't going to take offense to anything anyone says about this, because we know we aren't the problem. And who cares if a bunch of white nationalists won't vote for the Democratic party? Yeah, I mean huge loss of a reliable voting group that definitely wasn't already not voting for you there. --- :> Truly smilin' <cite>v_charon posted [p:925608887] in Shooting i... [t:77912710]...</cite> <quote>But they aren't actually doing that. You, as one of these nationalists apparently, are just taking personal offense. People who aren't white nationalists aren't going to take offense to anything anyone says about this, because we know we aren't the problem. And who cares if a bunch of white nationalists won't vote for the Democratic party? Yeah, I mean huge loss of a reliable voting group that definitely wasn't already not voting for you there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 08/04/19 1:34:34 PM #124:	I think we can all agree the KKK, Neo-Nazi offshoots, Antifa are all terrorist organizations. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Division 2 <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:925608946] in Shooting i... [t:77912710]...</cite> <quote>I think we can all agree the KKK, Neo-Nazi offshoots, Antifa are all terrorist organizations. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 08/04/19 1:35:10 PM #125:	Nelson_Mandela posted... My whole entrance into the topic is that if presidential candidates start talking like this The point is condemning white supremacy is not condemning white men in general. Republicans condemned gay people (the vast majority of which are white in the US) for decades and it didn't turn off white people at all. What's so special about the niche of white supremacy that makes it impossible to touch without offending half the country? --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:925608984] in Shooting i... [t:77912710]...</cite> <quote>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote>My whole entrance into the topic is that if presidential candidates start talking like this</quote> The point is condemning white supremacy is not condemning white men in general. Republicans condemned gay people (the vast majority of which are white in the US) for decades and it didn't turn off white people at all. What's so special about the niche of white supremacy that makes it impossible to touch without offending half the country?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 08/04/19 1:35:23 PM #126:	Corrik7 posted... I think we can all agree the KKK, Neo-Nazi offshoots, Antifa are all terrorist organizations. How many murders is antifa responsible for, again? --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:925608992] in Shooting i... [t:77912710]...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted...</cite> <quote>I think we can all agree the KKK, Neo-Nazi offshoots, Antifa are all terrorist organizations. </quote> How many murders is antifa responsible for, again?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 08/04/19 1:38:27 PM #127:	Inviso posted... How many murders is antifa responsible for, again? Are we going to argue you can't terrorize people without murdering them? Hitting people in the heads with tire irons, fire bombing headquarters, beating them in streets while clad in riot gear, etc is not enough? You are trying to play a political game if you are trying to argue Antifa is not a terrorist organization and frankly it really devalues your argument greatly to the average person. The average person can see a group of people going out in riot gear and batons to attack people is a terrorist organization. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Division 2 <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:925609091] in Shooting i... [t:77912710]...</cite> <quote>Inviso posted... </cite> <quote>How many murders is antifa responsible for, again?</quote>Are we going to argue you can't terrorize people without murdering them? Hitting people in the heads with tire irons, fire bombing headquarters, beating them in streets while clad in riot gear, etc is not enough? You are trying to play a political game if you are trying to argue Antifa is not a terrorist organization and frankly it really devalues your argument greatly to the average person. The average person can see a group of people going out in riot gear and batons to attack people is a terrorist organization. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 08/04/19 1:41:44 PM #128:	https://mobile.twitter.com/Jimryan015/status/1145067852375851008 Reasonable folks. Surely. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Division 2 <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:925609227] in Shooting i... [t:77912710]...</cite> <quote>https://mobile.twitter.com/Jimryan015/status/1145067852375851008 Reasonable folks. Surely. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
v_charon 08/04/19 1:42:13 PM #129:	I'm not saying Antifa is "the way" or anything or condoning their actions, but comparing them to one of the most evil organizations in American history is pretty extreme and shows desperation to compare a leftist movement to one that's definitely far right. --- :> Truly smilin' <cite>v_charon posted [p:925609251] in Shooting i... [t:77912710]...</cite> <quote>I'm not saying Antifa is "the way" or anything or condoning their actions, but comparing them to one of the most evil organizations in American history is pretty extreme and shows desperation to compare a leftist movement to one that's definitely far right.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 08/04/19 1:43:26 PM #130:	v_charon posted... I'm not saying Antifa is "the way" or anything or condoning their actions, but comparing them to one of the most evil organizations in American history is pretty extreme and shows desperation to compare a leftist movement to one that's definitely far right. This. By your logic, Corrik, should we condemn everyone who wears a MAGA hat as a terrorist? Because those people sure as shit seem to be committing a fuckton of murders, with a distinctive political agenda. --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:925609293] in Shooting i... [t:77912710]...</cite> <quote>v_charon posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not saying Antifa is "the way" or anything or condoning their actions, but comparing them to one of the most evil organizations in American history is pretty extreme and shows desperation to compare a leftist movement to one that's definitely far right.</quote> This. By your logic, Corrik, should we condemn everyone who wears a MAGA hat as a terrorist? Because those people sure as shit seem to be committing a fuckton of murders, with a distinctive political agenda.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 08/04/19 1:43:44 PM #131:	Corrik7 posted... I think we can all agree the KKK, Neo-Nazi offshoots, Antifa are all terrorist organizations. When has the KKK been responsible for terrorism? --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:925609305] in Shooting i... [t:77912710]...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted...</cite> <quote>I think we can all agree the KKK, Neo-Nazi offshoots, Antifa are all terrorist organizations. </quote> When has the KKK been responsible for terrorism?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xeybozn 08/04/19 1:45:47 PM #132:	Nelson_Mandela posted... foolm0r0n posted... The flaw would be to say, because most common terrorists are white males, you need to be afraid of white males in general. Many leftist politicians are absolutely doing that now. My whole entrance into the topic is that if presidential candidates start talking like this, their party is doomed. You're right that if the Democrats will lose really badly if their presidential candidates start saying all white men are awful. I am curious though, how is that going to happen when most of the candidates (including the current front-runner) are white men themselves? --- Congrats to 2019 Guru champ Advokaiser! <cite>Xeybozn posted [p:925609373] in Shooting i... [t:77912710]...</cite> <quote>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote>foolm0r0n posted...</cite> <quote>The flaw would be to say, because most common terrorists are white males, you need to be afraid of white males in general. </quote> Many leftist politicians are absolutely doing that now. My whole entrance into the topic is that if presidential candidates start talking like this, their party is doomed.</quote> You're right that if the Democrats will lose really badly if their presidential candidates start saying all white men are awful. I am curious though, how is that going to happen when most of the candidates (including the current front-runner) are white men themselves?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 08/04/19 1:47:49 PM #133:	Seph is always trying to give advice for how not to get beaten by Trump even though he loves Trump and plans on voting for him again. Its almost like his motives arent honest! --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:925609450] in Shooting i... [t:77912710]...</cite> <quote>Seph is always trying to give advice for how not to get beaten by Trump even though he loves Trump and plans on voting for him again. Its almost like his motives arent honest!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heroic Bigpun 08/04/19 1:48:12 PM #134:	While i wasnt raised there and haven't there since, I was born in El Paso. This makes me sad --- pUnny at his phone. Expect tYpos <cite>Heroic Bigpun posted [p:925609464] in Shooting i... [t:77912710]...</cite> <quote>While i wasnt raised there and haven't there since, I was born in El Paso. This makes me sad</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reg 08/04/19 1:48:17 PM #135:	why are people trying to bring antifa into this as if they're an actual, organized existing group? Has anybody in the US actually killed anybody under the Antifa banner since 1945? (Honest question since I can't come up with any instances of this, btw) <cite>Reg posted [p:925609469] in Shooting i... [t:77912710]...</cite> <quote>why are people trying to bring antifa into this as if they're an actual, organized existing group? Has anybody in the US actually killed anybody under the Antifa banner since 1945? (Honest question since I can't come up with any instances of this, btw)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WazzupGenius00 08/04/19 1:49:52 PM #136:	I havent seen anything pointing to a motive yet for the Dayton shooter (point me to it if you have) but I did just see the suspects sister is among the dead. Wonder if thats intentional or just a sick coincidence. --- https://imgur.com/k0v0z3q <cite>WazzupGenius00 posted [p:925609525] in Shooting i... [t:77912710]...</cite> <quote>I havent seen anything pointing to a motive yet for the Dayton shooter (point me to it if you have) but I did just see the suspects sister is among the dead. Wonder if thats intentional or just a sick coincidence.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 08/04/19 1:50:24 PM #137:	Reg posted... why are people trying to bring antifa into this as if they're an actual, organized existing group? Has anybody in the US actually killed anybody under the Antifa banner since 1945? (Honest question since I can't come up with any instances of this, btw) Corrik is trying to "both sides" violence, even though 99% of all political violence (and this includes radical Islamic terrorism) comes from right-wing sources. It's the "98% of climate change scientists hold just as much sway as the 2% who deny climate change" of terrorism. --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:925609548] in Shooting i... [t:77912710]...</cite> <quote>Reg posted...</cite> <quote>why are people trying to bring antifa into this as if they're an actual, organized existing group? Has anybody in the US actually killed anybody under the Antifa banner since 1945? (Honest question since I can't come up with any instances of this, btw)</quote> Corrik is trying to "both sides" violence, even though 99% of all political violence (and this includes radical Islamic terrorism) comes from right-wing sources. It's the "98% of climate change scientists hold just as much sway as the 2% who deny climate change" of terrorism.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
v_charon 08/04/19 1:50:31 PM #138:	Bringing up anything and everything to deflect attention away from the fact that people who have political ideologies similar to theirs are killing in mass right now. It's hard to defend, so deflect is the only option. --- :> Truly smilin' <cite>v_charon posted [p:925609553] in Shooting i... [t:77912710]...</cite> <quote>Bringing up anything and everything to deflect attention away from the fact that people who have political ideologies similar to theirs are killing in mass right now. It's hard to defend, so deflect is the only option.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 08/04/19 1:51:04 PM #139:	v_charon posted... I'm not saying Antifa is "the way" or anything or condoning their actions, but comparing them to one of the most evil organizations in American history is pretty extreme and shows desperation to compare a leftist movement to one that's definitely far right. Desperation? We are stating who is terrorist organizations. This isn't a dick measuring contest to see who is worst or so on. It is simply stating the fact that these are all terrorist organizations. They all have leaderships, members, and terrorize the populace over their political beliefs. Inviso posted... This. By your logic, Corrik, should we condemn everyone who wears a MAGA hat as a terrorist? Because those people sure as shit seem to be committing a fuckton of murders, with a distinctive political agenda. Never heard of the MAGA hat organization. You are trying the most bizarre mental gymnastics to justify a terrorist organization not being one. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Division 2 <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:925609578] in Shooting i... [t:77912710]...</cite> <quote>v_charon posted... </cite> <quote>I'm not saying Antifa is "the way" or anything or condoning their actions, but comparing them to one of the most evil organizations in American history is pretty extreme and shows desperation to compare a leftist movement to one that's definitely far right.</quote>Desperation? We are stating who is terrorist organizations. This isn't a dick measuring contest to see who is worst or so on. It is simply stating the fact that these are all terrorist organizations. They all have leaderships, members, and terrorize the populace over their political beliefs. Inviso posted... </cite> <quote>This. By your logic, Corrik, should we condemn everyone who wears a MAGA hat as a terrorist? Because those people sure as shit seem to be committing a fuckton of murders, with a distinctive political agenda.</quote>Never heard of the MAGA hat organization. You are trying the most bizarre mental gymnastics to justify a terrorist organization not being one. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 08/04/19 1:51:47 PM #140:	Corrik7 posted... v_charon posted... I'm not saying Antifa is "the way" or anything or condoning their actions, but comparing them to one of the most evil organizations in American history is pretty extreme and shows desperation to compare a leftist movement to one that's definitely far right. Desperation? We are stating who is terrorist organizations. This isn't a dick measuring contest to see who is worst or so on. It is simply stating the fact that these are all terrorist organizations. They all have leaderships, members, and terrorize the populace over their political beliefs. Inviso posted... This. By your logic, Corrik, should we condemn everyone who wears a MAGA hat as a terrorist? Because those people sure as shit seem to be committing a fuckton of murders, with a distinctive political agenda. Never heard of the MAGA hat organization. You are trying the most bizarre mental gymnastics to justify a terrorist organization not being one. What is the Antifa "Organization" then, Mr. Semantics? --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:925609607] in Shooting i... [t:77912710]...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted...</cite> <quote>v_charon posted... </cite> <quote>I'm not saying Antifa is "the way" or anything or condoning their actions, but comparing them to one of the most evil organizations in American history is pretty extreme and shows desperation to compare a leftist movement to one that's definitely far right.</quote>Desperation? We are stating who is terrorist organizations. This isn't a dick measuring contest to see who is worst or so on. It is simply stating the fact that these are all terrorist organizations. They all have leaderships, members, and terrorize the populace over their political beliefs. Inviso posted... </cite> <quote>This. By your logic, Corrik, should we condemn everyone who wears a MAGA hat as a terrorist? Because those people sure as shit seem to be committing a fuckton of murders, with a distinctive political agenda.</quote>Never heard of the MAGA hat organization. You are trying the most bizarre mental gymnastics to justify a terrorist organization not being one. </quote> What is the Antifa "Organization" then, Mr. Semantics?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reg 08/04/19 1:52:09 PM #141:	Inviso posted... Reg posted... why are people trying to bring antifa into this as if they're an actual, organized existing group? Has anybody in the US actually killed anybody under the Antifa banner since 1945? (Honest question since I can't come up with any instances of this, btw) Corrik is trying to "both sides" violence, even though 99% of all political violence (and this includes radical Islamic terrorism) comes from right-wing sources. It's the "98% of climate change scientists hold just as much sway as the 2% who deny climate change" of terrorism. Yes, and I am trying to roundabout call him a disingenious scumbag for doing so, though it appears I wasn't blunt enough. <cite>Reg posted [p:925609617] in Shooting i... [t:77912710]...</cite> <quote>Inviso posted...</cite> <quote>Reg posted...</cite> <quote>why are people trying to bring antifa into this as if they're an actual, organized existing group? Has anybody in the US actually killed anybody under the Antifa banner since 1945? (Honest question since I can't come up with any instances of this, btw)</quote> Corrik is trying to "both sides" violence, even though 99% of all political violence (and this includes radical Islamic terrorism) comes from right-wing sources. It's the "98% of climate change scientists hold just as much sway as the 2% who deny climate change" of terrorism.</quote> Yes, and I am trying to roundabout call him a disingenious scumbag for doing so, though it appears I wasn't blunt enough.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 08/04/19 1:52:14 PM #142:	Inviso posted... Reg posted... why are people trying to bring antifa into this as if they're an actual, organized existing group? Has anybody in the US actually killed anybody under the Antifa banner since 1945? (Honest question since I can't come up with any instances of this, btw) Corrik is trying to "both sides" violence, even though 99% of all political violence (and this includes radical Islamic terrorism) comes from right-wing sources. It's the "98% of climate change scientists hold just as much sway as the 2% who deny climate change" of terrorism. Its actually 99% of climate change scientists now --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:925609620] in Shooting i... [t:77912710]...</cite> <quote>Inviso posted...</cite> <quote>Reg posted...</cite> <quote>why are people trying to bring antifa into this as if they're an actual, organized existing group? Has anybody in the US actually killed anybody under the Antifa banner since 1945? (Honest question since I can't come up with any instances of this, btw)</quote> Corrik is trying to "both sides" violence, even though 99% of all political violence (and this includes radical Islamic terrorism) comes from right-wing sources. It's the "98% of climate change scientists hold just as much sway as the 2% who deny climate change" of terrorism.</quote> Its actually 99% of climate change scientists now</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 08/04/19 1:52:26 PM #143:	Xeybozn posted... I am curious though, how is that going to happen when most of the candidates (including the current front-runner) are white men themselves? they're self-deprecating white men duh --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:925609626] in Shooting i... [t:77912710]...</cite> <quote>Xeybozn posted...</cite> <quote>I am curious though, how is that going to happen when most of the candidates (including the current front-runner) are white men themselves?</quote> they're self-deprecating white men duh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 08/04/19 1:52:51 PM #144:	Most antifa are white men too so Seph needs to stop Corrik ASAP before something happens --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:925609643] in Shooting i... [t:77912710]...</cite> <quote>Most antifa are white men too so Seph needs to stop Corrik ASAP before something happens</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iiicon 08/04/19 1:58:03 PM #145:	Jakyl25 posted... Seph is always trying to give advice for how not to get beaten by Trump even though he loves Trump and plans on voting for him again. Its almost like his motives arent honest! https://twitter.com/adamjohnsonNYC/status/1156962462865993728 it's a long-standing conservative tradition --- ICON: Kiwami means extreme. <cite>iiicon posted [p:925609854] in Shooting i... [t:77912710]...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted... </cite> <quote>Seph is always trying to give advice for how not to get beaten by Trump even though he loves Trump and plans on voting for him again. Its almost like his motives arent honest!</quote>https://twitter.com/adamjohnsonNYC/status/1156962462865993728 it's a long-standing conservative tradition </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 08/04/19 2:00:53 PM #146:	Garlic festival shooter Iranian/Italian, read white supremacist book - seemed to focus on the anti-Jew parts of the book, called out mixed Mexican heritage whites and whites themselves ("white female vaginal insults") prior to shooting. El Paso White shooter. Targeted immigrants. Dayton shooter White shooter. All we know so far is son of a parent in the tech field. Psychology major in college. His mother had a "stop the alt right" graphic on Facebook. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Division 2 <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:925609978] in Shooting i... [t:77912710]...</cite> <quote>Garlic festival shooter Iranian/Italian, read white supremacist book - seemed to focus on the anti-Jew parts of the book, called out mixed Mexican heritage whites and whites themselves ("white female vaginal insults") prior to shooting. El Paso White shooter. Targeted immigrants. Dayton shooter White shooter. All we know so far is son of a parent in the tech field. Psychology major in college. His mother had a "stop the alt right" graphic on Facebook. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reg 08/04/19 2:01:19 PM #147:	anyways, seriously, can somebody please cite a single instance of Antifa killing somebody in the US? I can't find any information that suggests they ever have Which, naturally, does not fit the narrative the white supremacists and psychopaths are trying to build in this topic. <cite>Reg posted [p:925610000] in Shooting i... [t:77912710]...</cite> <quote>anyways, seriously, can somebody please cite a single instance of Antifa killing somebody in the US? I can't find any information that suggests they ever have Which, naturally, does not fit the narrative the white supremacists and psychopaths are trying to build in this topic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 08/04/19 2:01:42 PM #148:	Mr Lasastryke posted... Xeybozn posted... I am curious though, how is that going to happen when most of the candidates (including the current front-runner) are white men themselves? they're self-deprecating white men duh Eric Swalwell and Beto O'Rourke have both literally apologized for being born white men. --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:925610019] in Shooting i... [t:77912710]...</cite> <quote>Mr Lasastryke posted...</cite> <quote>Xeybozn posted...</cite> <quote>I am curious though, how is that going to happen when most of the candidates (including the current front-runner) are white men themselves?</quote> they're self-deprecating white men duh</quote> Eric Swalwell and Beto O'Rourke have both literally apologized for being born white men.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 08/04/19 2:02:09 PM #149:	iiicon posted... Jakyl25 posted... Seph is always trying to give advice for how not to get beaten by Trump even though he loves Trump and plans on voting for him again. Its almost like his motives arent honest! https://twitter.com/adamjohnsonNYC/status/1156962462865993728 it's a long-standing conservative tradition https://twitter.com/neobabylon3/status/1156962674120581120?s=21 if you can't trust karl rove, who can you trust? --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:925610038] in Shooting i... [t:77912710]...</cite> <quote>iiicon posted...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted... </cite> <quote>Seph is always trying to give advice for how not to get beaten by Trump even though he loves Trump and plans on voting for him again. Its almost like his motives arent honest!</quote>https://twitter.com/adamjohnsonNYC/status/1156962462865993728 it's a long-standing conservative tradition </quote> https://twitter.com/neobabylon3/status/1156962674120581120?s=21 <quote>if you can't trust karl rove, who can you trust?</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 08/04/19 2:05:51 PM #150:	Reg posted... anyways, seriously, can somebody please cite a single instance of Antifa killing somebody in the US? I can't find any information that suggests they ever have Which, naturally, does not fit the narrative the white supremacists and psychopaths are trying to build in this topic. Do you need to kill to terrorize, Reg? --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Division 2 <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:925610179] in Shooting i... [t:77912710]...</cite> <quote>Reg posted... </cite> <quote>anyways, seriously, can somebody please cite a single instance of Antifa killing somebody in the US? I can't find any information that suggests they ever have Which, naturally, does not fit the narrative the white supremacists and psychopaths are trying to build in this topic.</quote>Do you need to kill to terrorize, Reg? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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