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coh
08/04/19 10:12:32 PM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
coh posted...
How is he wrong?


How do you think thats the issue?

Keep up dude. Good fuckin grief.

What is the issue then?
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AlisLandale
08/04/19 10:15:31 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
i'm not shitposting and i'm not disagreeing with anything

it is a scientific fact that water itself is not wet, but makes things wet


When youre so committed to shitposting you start relying on fallacious internet memes to argue with the dictionary

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BaiusGaltar
08/04/19 10:15:58 PM
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AlisLandale posted...
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When youre so committed to shitposting that you start disagreeing with the dictionary

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/wet

consisting of, containing, covered with, or soaked with liquid (such as water)



Water consists of 2 hydrogen atoms and an oxygen atom.
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DrizztLink
08/04/19 10:33:16 PM
#156:


DuranOfForcena posted...
i'm not shitposting and i'm not disagreeing with anything

it is a scientific fact that water itself is not wet, but makes things wet

Ok, you know how this whole topic is about NGT taking a weird stance on shit that isn't relevant to the current topic?
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AlisLandale
08/04/19 10:37:39 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
what the f*** is your problem, besides needing to go back to high school science class? i'm not f***ing s***posting


https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/wet

hmmmmmmm

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CanuckCowboy
08/04/19 10:42:52 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
DrizztLink posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
i'm not shitposting and i'm not disagreeing with anything

it is a scientific fact that water itself is not wet, but makes things wet

Ok, you know how this whole topic is about NGT taking a weird stance on shit that isn't relevant to the current topic?

there's nothing weird about the stance he's taking. lacking in tact, yes. but not weird, or irrelevant.

and i'm not taking any "stance" on whether water is wet or not. there is no "stance" about that. there is right and there is wrong, and someone posted the wrong thing about it and i was merely correcting them. i'm not trying to make a big thing out of it, that's other posters' doing.


Whats your issue bud? Genuine question.
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BaiusGaltar
08/04/19 10:43:21 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
AlisLandale posted...
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/wet

hmmmmmmm

http://scienceline.ucsb.edu/getkey.php?key=6097

hmmmmmmmmm

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AlisLandale
08/04/19 10:46:13 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
http://scienceline.ucsb.edu/getkey.php?key=6097

hmmmmmmmmm


If we define "wet" as a sensation that we get when a liquid comes in contact with us, then yes, water is wet to us.
If we define "wet" as "made of liquid or moisture", then water is definitely wet because it is made of liquid, and in this sense, all liquids are wet because they are all made of liquids. I think that this is a case of a word being useful only in appropriate contexts.


When you're so committed to shitposting you don't read your own sources.

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AlisLandale
08/04/19 10:47:27 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
google any fucking source you want, anything that is reputable will say the same thing

move the fuck on already


AlisLandale posted...
When you're so committed to shitposting you don't read your own sources.



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AlisLandale
08/04/19 10:48:06 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
keyword here is "if"


So let's ask the person who you initially responded to how they define wet.

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AlisLandale
08/04/19 10:51:26 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
how one individual person defines anything is neither factual nor relevant


Okay. So let's ask a reputable source that archives the meanings of words as society at large understands them.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/wet

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Unsugarized_Foo
08/04/19 10:54:10 PM
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>NDeT says people react emotionally
>This topic reacts emotionally to him

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DrizztLink
08/04/19 10:54:39 PM
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@DuranOfForcena

Ok. My man.

I know you're a solid dude, I've had good times talking Mass Effect with you.

But you aren't getting that there is a time and a place for everything.

Yes, NGT is factually and logically correct.

But showing up in a period of mourning being factually and logically correct is dismissive to people in mourning.

You don't walk in to a funeral and say "Yeah he died in a car accident but people also kill themselves so think about that," which is exactly what is happening here.

The water is wet thing is completely fucking irrelevant and you're going full UnfairRepresent about it.
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AlisLandale
08/04/19 10:59:54 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
i completely agree. i'm not the one who brought it up. and i don't know what "going full UnfairRepresent about it" means but all i did was correct a simple erroneous statement and then i got accused of s***posting and having it wrong, when i have it right.


You're shitposting by ignoring the point of the statement you responded to fall into the same insufferable habit as the man whose habits you are defending by saying he "didn't make his point delicately".

He has no point. This is what NGT does. He acts contrarian on the internet because he's a smug ass.

https://twitter.com/neiltyson/status/704330815321210884?lang=en

Want to argue about the definition of "leap" next? Because I'm down.

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DrizztLink
08/04/19 11:05:30 PM
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Going full UnfairRepresent is when you start a huge argument over something that doesn't fucking matter.

You don't like the idiom "water is wet." Cool.

Think the argument could be saved for a topic that doesn't involve the death of people, albeit indirectly?

That also goes for @AlisLandale

Petty bullshit has two sides.
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CanuckCowboy
08/04/19 11:13:31 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
DrizztLink posted...
Going full UnfairRepresent is when you start a huge argument over something that doesn't fucking matter.

You don't like the idiom "water is wet." Cool.

Think the argument could be saved for a topic that doesn't involve the death of people, albeit indirectly?

That also goes for @AlisLandale

Petty bullshit has two sides.

i didn't start any argument, and when i get wrongfully accused of shitposting and being in the wrong, i will not take that shit laying down, no matter what topic it's in. i'm not enthused that it had to go down in a topic like this, but i didn't really have any control over that.

DuranOfForcena posted...
DrizztLink posted...
Going full UnfairRepresent is when you start a huge argument over something that doesn't fucking matter.

You don't like the idiom "water is wet." Cool.

Think the argument could be saved for a topic that doesn't involve the death of people, albeit indirectly?

That also goes for @AlisLandale

Petty bullshit has two sides.

i didn't start any argument, and when i get wrongfully accused of shitposting and being in the wrong, i will not take that shit laying down, no matter what topic it's in. i'm not enthused that it had to go down in a topic like this, but i didn't really have any control over that.


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RickyTheBAWSE
08/04/19 11:16:59 PM
#180:


CanuckCowboy posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
DrizztLink posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
i'm not shitposting and i'm not disagreeing with anything

it is a scientific fact that water itself is not wet, but makes things wet

Ok, you know how this whole topic is about NGT taking a weird stance on shit that isn't relevant to the current topic?

there's nothing weird about the stance he's taking. lacking in tact, yes. but not weird, or irrelevant.

and i'm not taking any "stance" on whether water is wet or not. there is no "stance" about that. there is right and there is wrong, and someone posted the wrong thing about it and i was merely correcting them. i'm not trying to make a big thing out of it, that's other posters' doing.


Whats your issue bud? Genuine question.


no it's not, lol
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DrizztLink
08/04/19 11:28:14 PM
#181:


DuranOfForcena posted...
DrizztLink posted...
Going full UnfairRepresent is when you start a huge argument over something that doesn't fucking matter.

You don't like the idiom "water is wet." Cool.

Think the argument could be saved for a topic that doesn't involve the death of people, albeit indirectly?

That also goes for @AlisLandale

Petty bullshit has two sides.

i didn't start any argument, and when i get wrongfully accused of shitposting and being in the wrong, i will not take that shit laying down, no matter what topic it's in. i'm not enthused that it had to go down in a topic like this, but i didn't really have any control over that.

IT'S FUCKING WATER

IT ISN'T FUCKING RELEVANT

Hurray for your morals but read the fucking room.

Like sure, if you got challenged in a topic about taxes thunder right ahead.

Other times, let it slide because your pride isn't worth being the guy ARGUING ABOUT FUCKING WATER BEING WET IN A TOPIC ABOUT PEOPLE BEING MURDERED.
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DrizztLink
08/04/19 11:32:35 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
every point of contention about this argument you are directed at me is being directed to the wrong person.

Unless you learn the fucking lesson, it's still very much directed towards you.
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DrizztLink
08/04/19 11:34:18 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
DrizztLink posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
every point of contention about this argument you are directed at me is being directed to the wrong person.

Unless you learn the fucking lesson, it's still very much directed towards you.

there is no lesson here that i need to learn. the lesson to not start a trivial and irrelevant argument in a topic that deals with sensitive subject matter should be directed to the person who instigated said argument.

DuranOfForcena posted...
water actually isn't wet soooooo

You started this shit in the first place.
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DrizztLink
08/04/19 11:37:31 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
DrizztLink posted...
You started this shit in the first place.

providing a legitimate correction to a factually incorrect statement is not starting an argument.

Oh

My God

It's like I'm a blind guy reading a cheese grater.
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RickyTheBAWSE
08/04/19 11:39:15 PM
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lmao
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08/04/19 11:40:17 PM
#189:


ugh he's such an ass. for someone who is inspired by carl sagan, his attitude couldn't be much further from sagan holy shit.
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Solid Snake07
08/05/19 12:26:20 AM
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Zodd3224 posted...
Solid Snake07 posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
Solid Snake07 posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
There is no simple solution to greatly reduce gang violence tho. There is a simple solution to reduce mass shootings but people always want to deflect back to gang violence when its mentioned.


That's a pretty bold statement. And it's not a deflection, they both fall under the issue of gun violence and gun control. Each has a role in the discussion


Great. So let's increase gun control and kill two birds with one stone then.


I dont really have a strong opinion on gun control, so long as people who actually know what they're talking about when it comes to guns are included in making them, which is mostly conservatives so......

I have more of an issue with allowing clueless beurocrats regulating things they dont fully understand and causing more harm than good


It cant get much worse than this. Clearly what we are doing now isnt working. There is nowhere to go but up.


I know that sounded better in your head than it came out, but it's so wrong
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omega cookie
08/05/19 12:32:29 AM
#191:


He's pretty well known for saying the right things in the worst way possible. What he meant was obviously "Don't let sensationalist media coverage make you forget that while mass shootings are a severe problem, they are not the only problem we face", we instead got "I have severe brain damage".

And this is coming from someone who absolutely hates him as a person.
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goldenBoi45
08/05/19 1:23:45 AM
#192:


Solid Snake07 posted...
KStateKing17 posted...
Literally compared murder to the flu...


He didnt compare anything other than numbers of deaths. If math perturbs your world view maybe you should do some self reflection

I like how no one acknowledges that gun violence is one of the statistics he used. But people largely dont care about those 40 deaths a day because they're mostly from gang violence perpratrated by and victimizing poor minorities. People are more worried about the asshole that shot up a wal mart because they go to wal mart sometimes too. Not what's happening in neighborhoods they'd rather pretend dont exist


As much as I disagree with him posting that tweet, this is a good point.

No one gives a fuck about gun violence until they're afraid THEY might be victimized. Just shows how much people operate on fear and ego these days
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Philip027
08/05/19 1:37:43 AM
#193:


Wow, I really wasn't expecting that to snowball like it did.

Incidentally, it caused me to perform some casual googling and I couldn't help but chuckle upon coming across this page:

https://www.debate.org/opinions/is-water-wet

In any event, regardless of anyone's opinion on that subject, the point stands. This tweet wasn't useful or insightful to anyone, and neither would be one about the supposed wetness of water, regardless of how "correct" it might be. It's just that this tweet has the added bonus of making the tweeter come off as callous and insensitive, so, WTG I guess.
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DeadBankerDream
08/05/19 3:44:55 AM
#194:


Water not being wet is a big thing in the internet "I'm very intelligent" community
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Sphyx
08/05/19 3:45:16 AM
#195:


DuranOfForcena posted...
mass shootings are not the only crisis in America that is responsible for lives lost.

Did you really think this was a valid point?!
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ThunderMuffin
08/05/19 3:47:35 AM
#196:


300 to the flu wtf lol
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bevan306
08/05/19 4:01:54 AM
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pinky0926
08/05/19 4:04:33 AM
#198:


NDT is what happens when a bona fide neckbeard is actually successful in life.
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Oatcakes
08/05/19 7:32:16 AM
#199:


Unsugarized_Foo posted...
>NDeT says people react emotionally
>This topic reacts emotionally to him


*Tips fedora*

Ten internet points to you, good sir.

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Scorsese2002
08/05/19 10:17:33 AM
#200:


https://www.tmz.com/2019/08/04/neil-degrasse-tyson-mass-shooting-data-tweet/

6:15 AM PT -- 8/5 -- Data, shmata ... Neil says he straight-up got it wrong for his cold-hearted tweet from over the weekend. He said Monday, "My intent was to offer objectively true information that might help shape our conversations and reactions to preventable ways we die."

He goes on to say, "Where I miscalculated was that I genuinely believed the Tweet would be helpful to anyone trying to save lives in America. What I learned from the range of reactions is that for many people, some information -- my Tweet in particular -- can be true but unhelpful, especially at a time when many people are either still in shock or trying to heal -- or both.

"So if you are one of those people, I apologize for not knowing in advance what effect my Tweet could have on you ... I got this one wrong."

1:52 PM PT -- Smash Mouth had an apt response to Neil's tweet, which many people appear to agree with. On Twitter, the band wrote "F*** OFF!!!! There's your data!!!!"

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DeadBankerDream
08/05/19 10:20:28 AM
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Good on him.
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