Poll of the Day > Chase (credits cards) sucked so hard that they're giving their debt free!

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Lokarin
08/08/19 6:10:16 PM
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Pus_N_Pecans
08/08/19 6:12:59 PM
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Does this mean the American version of this card will get the same treatment? I dont have any debt, but I do have this card.
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Lokarin
08/08/19 6:14:15 PM
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Pus_N_Pecans posted...
Does this mean the American version of this card will get the same treatment? I dont have any debt, but I do have this card.


I don't think so, it's just the way they're handling leaving the Canadian market. It must be cheaper for them to just abandon the debt than to hound for it.
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streamofthesky
08/08/19 6:19:28 PM
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Meanwhile in the US, I literally just mailed off a letter telling Chase that I want to opt-out of forced arbitration that waives my right to sue them for any wrongdoing they may commit in the future. I don't even know how it's legal to default/force millions of customers to forgo their legal rights, but...it is! And not only is it legal, but they're allowed to require an actual written correspondence to opt out by a deadline of their choosing, calling or emailing isn't good enough.

'Murica!
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DeltaBladeX
08/08/19 8:33:11 PM
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streamofthesky posted...
calling or emailing isn't good enough.

Those can't get lost :P
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streamofthesky
08/08/19 8:48:28 PM
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DeltaBladeX posted...
streamofthesky posted...
calling or emailing isn't good enough.

Those can't get lost :P

I put in the letter that I expect to receive a confirmation letter from Chase and that I'm keeping a copy of the letter for my records, and I dated the fucking letter.

Hopefully that's enough to ensure they don't bs me, but yeah...I'm guessing they'll pretend they never got my letter.
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Mead
08/08/19 8:51:26 PM
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Canada gets everything

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streamofthesky
08/08/19 8:58:28 PM
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Mead posted...
Canada gets everything

Except Ted Cruz. We got to keep him!

*cries*
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Aaantlion
08/08/19 8:59:43 PM
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Must. Resist. Urge. To. Joke. About. Canada. Aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh!

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Firewood18
08/08/19 10:18:14 PM
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Setting the precedent that money isn't real and debt is just a concept we can just forget about.
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captpackrat
08/09/19 2:52:46 PM
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I don't know how Revenue Canada handles it, but the IRS considers forgiven debt to be income and thus taxable.
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Aaantlion
08/11/19 12:09:49 AM
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Firewood18 posted...
Setting the precedent that money isn't real and debt is just a concept we can just forget about.


Pretty sure bankruptcies have been doing that since we outlawed debtors' prisons.

captpackrat posted...
I don't know how Revenue Canada handles it, but the IRS considers forgiven debt to be income and thus taxable.


As it should, tbh, although they'll still come out far ahead of the curve.
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Mead
08/11/19 12:13:37 AM
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Pretty sure bankruptcies have been doing that since we outlawed debtors' prisons.


Unless of course you owe money on government student loans

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Aaantlion
08/11/19 12:15:30 AM
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Mead posted...
Pretty sure bankruptcies have been doing that since we outlawed debtors' prisons.


Unless of course you owe money on government student loans


They have loan forgiveness for certain fields and, because these policies exist, those students feel less of an incentive to actually pay down those loans.
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Mead
08/11/19 12:18:36 AM
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Aaantlion posted...
They have loan forgiveness for certain fields and, because these policies exist, those students feel less of an incentive to actually pay down those loans.


Thats probably exacerbated by the fact that many first world countries offer higher education at no cost for the betterment of the populace

Even some US states use to offer college at no cost to students. Another thing the Raegan administration ruined for multiple generations.

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Grendel
08/11/19 3:59:15 AM
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streamofthesky posted...
Meanwhile in the US, I literally just mailed off a letter telling Chase that I want to opt-out of forced arbitration that waives my right to sue them for any wrongdoing they may commit in the future. I don't even know how it's legal to default/force millions of customers to forgo their legal rights, but...it is! And not only is it legal, but they're allowed to require an actual written correspondence to opt out by a deadline of their choosing, calling or emailing isn't good enough.


I got a new card when that happened and am just holding my chase card as an emergency backup. They've effectively lost me as a customer over that.
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streamofthesky
08/11/19 10:22:02 AM
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Grendel posted...
streamofthesky posted...
Meanwhile in the US, I literally just mailed off a letter telling Chase that I want to opt-out of forced arbitration that waives my right to sue them for any wrongdoing they may commit in the future. I don't even know how it's legal to default/force millions of customers to forgo their legal rights, but...it is! And not only is it legal, but they're allowed to require an actual written correspondence to opt out by a deadline of their choosing, calling or emailing isn't good enough.


I got a new card when that happened and am just holding my chase card as an emergency backup. They've effectively lost me as a customer over that.

It's tempting to just stop using it. But my first ever card I stopped using (worst benefits of all my credit cards) and they eventually closed my account due to inactivity, which in turn lowered my credit score (it was my longest tenured account, so it significantly affected my average # of years for my credit accounts).
The Chase one is now my longest tenured card, and I'd rather avoid a hit to my credit score over losing it. Plus, it is still the best cash back % I have for amazon purchases (it's actually an Amazon credit card, but provided by Chase), so I *do* still want to use it regularly.

So...hopefully the option to opt-out isn't bs. If I don't get a letter and they stone wall me when I call to inquire about it...guess I'm done w/ them.
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