Board 8 > Yu Yu Hakusho Mafia Topic 1: SPIRIT SWORD!!!

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Lopen
08/09/19 9:53:23 PM
#151:


I just never see Chris playing a scanner like that. Even if it's single use

He was also really lazy with the push on Ulti yesterday honestly. He was doing the Michael Cole "we just love to have fun out there" bit not actually trying to get anyone on it to commit to suspecting Ulti or not.

You line those up side by side and it really feels like a guy who just doesn't want town to lay any suspicions on the table.

I think Han was killed simply because he seemed to be thinking and not zerging, and probably that his first suspicion was right. If you want to remove town that are likely to be relevant to scumhunting he seems solid.
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DoomTheGyarados
08/09/19 9:59:14 PM
#152:


Why do people always say things like that.

"I don't see Chris playing like this"

The fact of the matter is, I picked someone who didn't post yesterday so there's no reason not to reveal it. I am not preventing anyone from pursuing other leads.
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greengravy294
08/09/19 10:01:03 PM
#153:


Lopen if I can explain to you my perspective, take a look at Absurd Mafia. If possible. Scum destroyed that game iirc. It was like 11 man though. My view may be tainted because of it. I dont know
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Corrik7
08/09/19 10:01:13 PM
#154:


Let me just ask you all this.

Why would I lie?
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TheSultanOfSlam
08/09/19 10:02:21 PM
#155:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Why do people always say things like that.

"I don't see Chris playing like this"

The fact of the matter is, I picked someone who didn't post yesterday so there's no reason not to reveal it. I am not preventing anyone from pursuing other leads.


Then provide other options before youre dead and actually help town instead of harping on your "Scan" more reasons you're scum
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DoomTheGyarados
08/09/19 10:03:00 PM
#156:


Corrik7 posted...
Let me just ask you all this.

Why would I lie?


Reads.
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Lopen
08/09/19 10:07:38 PM
#158:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Why do people always say things like that.

"I don't see Chris playing like this"

The fact of the matter is, I picked someone who didn't post yesterday so there's no reason not to reveal it. I am not preventing anyone from pursuing other leads.


You know better than to think that scum scan reveal immediately wouldn't actively work against town attempting to achieve anything today.

There are a lot of ways to begin a day that aren't just revealing a scan. Even if it's on a guy who hadn't posted yet. In fact I would argue not posting anything would have been better for town
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Lopen
08/09/19 10:09:09 PM
#159:


Like you said while doing your Michael Cole impersonation that there were a wealth of reads to glean from yesterday. Have you explored any of them at all today? I feel like all you've done is claim and defend your claim.
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Lopen
08/09/19 10:10:34 PM
#160:


Which has me once again wanting FD to elaborate on why he thinks Chris is town
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DoomTheGyarados
08/09/19 10:10:40 PM
#161:


I haven't had time to re-read, dad duty lol
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greengravy294
08/09/19 10:11:01 PM
#162:


I just want claims so I am going along with this charade
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Lopen
08/09/19 10:11:43 PM
#164:


Play Smash Bros with your kid it works for scum Red
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greengravy294
08/09/19 10:13:42 PM
#165:


I am talking about whom I am voting for in support of a player I think is lying town.
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TheSultanOfSlam
08/09/19 10:14:04 PM
#166:


Well let me not pull what chris is doing and not contribute other then his "Scan",

1. Ben (benjamin3740)- hammered Ulti and didnt provide anything that would exspalin why he would hammer their.. i however do not think Ben would do that as Scum.
2. Blade (Meow1000) / Scare (ScareChan)- what i saw from Blade it didnt make me think he was town but i would love to hear from scare before actually putting scare down as scum
3. Brohan (MysticBrohan) im pretty convinced Brosph is scum on the Ulti Band wagon beacuse the rest of his play doesnt suggest that he wasnt just jumping on the train beacuse he was actually convinced Ulti was town
4. Chris (DoomTheGyarados)- lying about hos scan on me, lead the kill on our watcher, not actually contributing today other then his "Scan"
5. Corrik (Corrik7)- one of the people to try to push me to claim when this is obvious a gambit by chris
6. FD (Forceful_Dragon) Has he posted?? If so i missed it
7. Gravy (greengravy294) Pushing to make me claim but not actually trying to do any hunting
8. HB (Hbthebattle)????
9. IGCD (IfGodCouldDie) ???
10. Lea (Leanansidhe) lea had provided little of use but i wouldnt say she looks scummy
11. Lopen (Lopen) like Lopen pushing back at chris
12. MZero (MZero11) mzero has posted a bit but i need to go reread what he said tbh..
13. Red (red13n, Leafeon13N) have not seen much that really struck my eye
14. SBell (Obellisk) is 100% Town if i am wrong on this fantastic Job Sbell you fooled me good
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greengravy294
08/09/19 10:18:21 PM
#167:


Claims are helpful because as Lopen said we are effectively stifled of any facts to this point.
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MZero11
08/09/19 10:19:28 PM
#169:


Wow Corrik I thought we were riding together and you left me high and dry
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Lopen
08/09/19 10:20:55 PM
#170:


No Sultan don't claim if they try to lynch you I will mayor it
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MZero11
08/09/19 10:21:27 PM
#171:


Lopen posted...
No Sultan don't claim if they try to lynch you I will mayor it


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TheSultanOfSlam
08/09/19 10:22:12 PM
#172:


How lea?! Also Re read day 1 did Gravy really provide only fluff and a band wagon vote?
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greengravy294
08/09/19 10:22:40 PM
#174:


Lopen posted...
No Sultan don't claim if they try to lynch you I will mayor it

Flavor?
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Lopen
08/09/19 10:23:15 PM
#175:


The Japanese Government
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TheSultanOfSlam
08/09/19 10:25:21 PM
#176:


Leanansidhe posted...
If Sultan claims at the same time as me, I can potentially confirm him Town or Scum and also maybe confirm Chris's alignment.

And I reallyyyyy want to claim


whay?
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DoomTheGyarados
08/09/19 10:25:30 PM
#177:


I love you Lopen.
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MZero11
08/09/19 10:27:05 PM
#178:


Leanansidhe posted...
If Sultan claims at the same time as me, I can potentially confirm him Town or Scum and also maybe confirm Chris's alignment.

And I reallyyyyy want to claim


Do it Sultan
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Hbthebattle
08/09/19 10:27:20 PM
#179:


MZero11 posted...
Leanansidhe posted...
If Sultan claims at the same time as me, I can potentially confirm him Town or Scum and also maybe confirm Chris's alignment.

And I reallyyyyy want to claim


Do it Sultan

Do it no balls
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greengravy294
08/09/19 10:27:23 PM
#180:


Lopen posted...
The Japanese Government

Oh well okay
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Forceful_Dragon
08/09/19 10:28:49 PM
#182:


Lopen posted...
Which has me once again wanting FD to elaborate on why he thinks Chris is town


If I'm forced to pick, then yeah, im leaning town in this situation. For many of the reasons gravy had mentioned and just the feeling that Chris would sooner lie as town in this spot to push whatever narrative he's trying to achieve than the idea that he was enough afraid of a policy lynch to gambit this way as scum.

Town Chris goes on the attack, bluffs something absurd, does some moving and shaking and then recants the bluff and transitions into a read he got from the reactions to the smoke he was blowing.

I don't see Scum Chris claiming 3 separate roles rolled into 1 unless he was legitimately just fishing for counter claim information. In what universe does that make sense?

Neither situation is a 100% certainty, but one seems more likely than the other.
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Lopen
08/09/19 10:29:46 PM
#183:


I don't think I've ever seen town chris outright bluff. I mean maybe he does but I don't think I've seen it
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TheSultanOfSlam
08/09/19 10:33:12 PM
#184:


Idk if i can trust you lea... feels like scum... maybe im just paranoid?
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MZero11
08/09/19 10:34:56 PM
#186:


Sultan my guy you're going to be forced to claim at some point so you might as well just do it tbh
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Forceful_Dragon
08/09/19 10:35:03 PM
#187:


And I have which is more like what this feels like.

But I've spent enough time talking about Chris, I'm going to try to dig up some posts from people who are just hanging out in the shadows and analyze some stuff from them. Whichever direction we go with our lynch I'd like to focus the discussion on more than just one person today.
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TheSultanOfSlam
08/09/19 10:35:10 PM
#188:


Leanansidhe posted...
TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Idk if i can trust you lea... feels like scum... maybe im just paranoid?


I'm going to claim even if you don't, and if you're town it's going to go much better for you if you comply. If you're scum, feel free to claim after I force the issue.

Did you see me do something?
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Lopen
08/09/19 10:36:29 PM
#190:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
Chris would sooner lie as town in this spot to push whatever narrative he's trying to achieve than the idea that he was enough afraid of a policy lynch to gambit this way as scum.


I might agree with you but last game he was really defensive when masterplum brought it up the idea that Chris might be autoscum if allowed to live a few days. That to me makes me think it's on his mind. He was pretty frustrated about having been lynched for that reason recently too in a game where he felt he'd been obvtown.

This game he hasn't had that same defensiveness either which is weird.
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MZero11
08/09/19 10:38:59 PM
#191:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Leanansidhe posted...
TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Idk if i can trust you lea... feels like scum... maybe im just paranoid?


I'm going to claim even if you don't, and if you're town it's going to go much better for you if you comply. If you're scum, feel free to claim after I force the issue.

Did you see me do something?


oof
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DoomTheGyarados
08/09/19 10:39:30 PM
#192:


MZero11 posted...
TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Leanansidhe posted...
TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Idk if i can trust you lea... feels like scum... maybe im just paranoid?


I'm going to claim even if you don't, and if you're town it's going to go much better for you if you comply. If you're scum, feel free to claim after I force the issue.

Did you see me do something?


oof


It's almost like.

I said he scans scum, guys.

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DoomTheGyarados
08/09/19 10:39:52 PM
#193:


Guys, don't make Lea claim.

Look at that reaction from Sultan.
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Hbthebattle
08/09/19 10:40:28 PM
#194:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Leanansidhe posted...
TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Idk if i can trust you lea... feels like scum... maybe im just paranoid?


I'm going to claim even if you don't, and if you're town it's going to go much better for you if you comply. If you're scum, feel free to claim after I force the issue.

Did you see me do something?

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DoomTheGyarados
08/09/19 10:41:55 PM
#196:


I am going to be honest. Do you know the last time I got a scan off and lived?

I literally do not.
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MZero11
08/09/19 10:42:16 PM
#197:


Leanansidhe posted...
If Sultan claims at the same time as me, I can potentially confirm him Town or Scum and also maybe confirm Chris's alignment.

And I reallyyyyy want to claim


still curious about this though
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TheSultanOfSlam
08/09/19 10:43:14 PM
#198:


Fuck if im going to keep getting pressured over a fake scan lea when you want to do this...
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Lopen
08/09/19 10:44:24 PM
#199:


Sultan appears to be claiming Deer

Unfortunately from yesterday we know that he's a TOWN Tracker from that
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