Poll of the Day > Breaking: Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide at Manhattan jail

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OhhhJa
08/11/19 2:19:13 AM
#104:


Mead posted...
OhhhJa posted...
As far as I know, nobody ever claimed the Wikileaks podesta emails weren't real. They just tried to ignore the whole thing and swipe it under the rug. If they were fake, I think they'd be all over it but they clearly just didnt wanna draw attention to it


https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/oct/23/are-clinton-wikileaks-emails-doctored-or-are-they-/

I know the emails were real in the videos I watched about it. If they weren't they wouldve been discredited since at the time they had a solid amount of subscribers and probably still do.


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Yeah if you wanna trust obviously biased "fact checking" sites then go ahead. That's why I said I dont care to do your research for you.

But politifact said it didnt happen and they're obviously the word of god so you go ahead and keep eating what the elite poop out for you then
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Mead
08/11/19 2:25:43 AM
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Yeah if you wanna trust obviously biased "fact checking" sites then go ahead.


Is there any fact checking website that you would consider nonbiased? Or are facts themselves left leaning ideals?

If I recall youve called snopes left leaning in the past. Its one thing to not want to do research for someone but its quite another to assert that something is a fact and expect others to believe it because you insist you know it is true.

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OhhhJa
08/11/19 2:38:01 AM
#106:


Mead posted...
Yeah if you wanna trust obviously biased "fact checking" sites then go ahead.


Is there any fact checking website that you would consider nonbiased? Or are facts themselves left leaning ideals?

If I recall youve called snopes left leaning in the past. Its one thing to not want to do research for someone but its quite another to assert that something is a fact and expect others to believe it because you insist you know it is true.

You're asserting that this site deserves absolute credibility based on what? Because they did the research for you and you dont want to? They're trustworthy enough I guess right? Do you know anything about who runs the site just out of curiosity? I bet you don't. So why trust them? Because it's easy and you dont have to form your own opinion?
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Mead
08/11/19 2:45:35 AM
#107:


OhhhJa posted...
You're asserting that this site deserves absolute credibility based on what? Because they did the research for you and you dont want to? They're trustworthy enough I guess right? Do you know anything about who runs the site just out of curiosity? I bet you don't. So why trust them? Because it's easy and you dont have to form your own opinion?


Im not asserting that any website deserves absolute credibility. Thats why its helpful to have multiple verified sources.

Its one thing to not want to do research for someone but its quite another to assert that something is a fact and expect others to believe it because you insist you know it is true.

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OhhhJa
08/11/19 3:16:56 AM
#108:


Mead posted...
OhhhJa posted...
You're asserting that this site deserves absolute credibility based on what? Because they did the research for you and you dont want to? They're trustworthy enough I guess right? Do you know anything about who runs the site just out of curiosity? I bet you don't. So why trust them? Because it's easy and you dont have to form your own opinion?


Im not asserting that any website deserves absolute credibility. Thats why its helpful to have multiple verified sources.

Its one thing to not want to do research for someone but its quite another to assert that something is a fact and expect others to believe it because you insist you know it is true.

Yeah but remember the part where I said I've done my research and simply didnt care enough to.do it for anyone here
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JoseAAV
08/11/19 4:26:57 AM
#109:


This is when Elon Musk steps in and revives that dead man to make him talk
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BlackScythe0
08/11/19 4:47:42 AM
#110:


OhhhJa posted...
Mead posted...
OhhhJa posted...
You're asserting that this site deserves absolute credibility based on what? Because they did the research for you and you dont want to? They're trustworthy enough I guess right? Do you know anything about who runs the site just out of curiosity? I bet you don't. So why trust them? Because it's easy and you dont have to form your own opinion?


Im not asserting that any website deserves absolute credibility. Thats why its helpful to have multiple verified sources.

Its one thing to not want to do research for someone but its quite another to assert that something is a fact and expect others to believe it because you insist you know it is true.

Yeah but remember the part where I said I've done my research and simply didnt care enough to.do it for anyone here


A bunch of people did research into why gravity isn't real too.
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OhhhJa
08/11/19 8:47:36 AM
#111:


BlackScythe0 posted...
OhhhJa posted...
Mead posted...
OhhhJa posted...
You're asserting that this site deserves absolute credibility based on what? Because they did the research for you and you dont want to? They're trustworthy enough I guess right? Do you know anything about who runs the site just out of curiosity? I bet you don't. So why trust them? Because it's easy and you dont have to form your own opinion?


Im not asserting that any website deserves absolute credibility. Thats why its helpful to have multiple verified sources.

Its one thing to not want to do research for someone but its quite another to assert that something is a fact and expect others to believe it because you insist you know it is true.

Yeah but remember the part where I said I've done my research and simply didnt care enough to.do it for anyone here


A bunch of people did research into why gravity isn't real too.

Well, to be fair... before the Higgs boson discovery, gravity still wasnt fully understood
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OniRonin
08/11/19 12:57:53 PM
#112:


OhhhJa posted...
Mead posted...
OhhhJa posted...
You're asserting that this site deserves absolute credibility based on what? Because they did the research for you and you dont want to? They're trustworthy enough I guess right? Do you know anything about who runs the site just out of curiosity? I bet you don't. So why trust them? Because it's easy and you dont have to form your own opinion?


Im not asserting that any website deserves absolute credibility. Thats why its helpful to have multiple verified sources.

Its one thing to not want to do research for someone but its quite another to assert that something is a fact and expect others to believe it because you insist you know it is true.

Yeah but remember the part where I said I've done my research and simply didnt care enough to.do it for anyone here


Can you give at least one SPECIFIC example of a clinton email that you think proves whatever your point is. If not I will suspend you from this topic -- this fake conspiracy shit is controlled opposition to disract from discussing the details of jeffrey epstein's assassination
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OhhhJa
08/11/19 12:58:54 PM
#113:


OniRonin posted...
If not I will suspend you from this topic

Lmfao
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OniRonin
08/11/19 1:05:03 PM
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darkknight109
08/11/19 4:30:39 PM
#115:


Man, the conspiracy shit going on in this topic is absolutely insane.

Yes, it's the Clintons - who haven't been in the White House for almost 20 years - who are so all-powerful that they can murder people at will, including those under the care of a Trump department that reports to a Trump official hand-picked by Trump himself, and not leave a scrap of evidence behind... yet were strangely powerless to scare up the ~60,000 altered votes that would have given the 2016 election to Hillary.

That makes perfect sense and certainly doesn't sound like the ravings of a madman.
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xcrimx
08/11/19 5:04:22 PM
#116:


they also killed the enron guy
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FrndNhbrHdCEman
08/11/19 6:10:26 PM
#117:


OhhhJa posted...
Well, to be fair... before the Higgs boson discovery, gravity still wasnt fully understood
Apple goes up Apple falls down.

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captpackrat
08/11/19 6:59:15 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KF6SNxNIV08" data-time="

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OhhhJa
08/11/19 7:51:56 PM
#119:


darkknight109 posted...
Man, the conspiracy shit going on in this topic is absolutely insane.

Yes, it's the Clintons - who haven't been in the White House for almost 20 years - who are so all-powerful that they can murder people at will, including those under the care of a Trump department that reports to a Trump official hand-picked by Trump himself, and not leave a scrap of evidence behind... yet were strangely powerless to scare up the ~60,000 altered votes that would have given the 2016 election to Hillary.

That makes perfect sense and certainly doesn't sound like the ravings of a madman.

Sorry to burst your bubble dude

https://www.google.com/amp/nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/2019/08/what-the-unsealed-epstein-documents-reveal-about-trump.html

Also, you really dont believe the Clintons still have a massive amount of power? Hahaha ok bro
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darkknight109
08/12/19 5:07:55 AM
#120:


OhhhJa posted...
Sorry to burst your bubble dude

About what? Your link says absolutely nothing that addresses anything that I said.

OhhhJa posted...
Also, you really dont believe the Clintons still have a massive amount of power? Hahaha ok bro

Yes, clearly powerful enough to assassinate someone in federal custody of a government nakedly hostile to them and leave absolutely no trace of their involvement, but somehow not powerful enough to swing a few thousand votes in their favour under a government more friendly to them.

Seems totally reasonable.
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BlackScythe0
08/12/19 5:35:17 AM
#121:


OhhhJa posted...
Also, you really dont believe the Clintons still have a massive amount of power? Hahaha ok bro


Yea so much power she lost.

I'm supposed to believe a loser did it when the guy with the most power in our country is all over the news hanging out with a pedophile sex trafficker talking about how young he likes his girls and said pedophile is in a prison under control of one of his most loyal sycophants who has already proven he will lie to the nation to defend him.

Yep, it was definitely the Clintons, makes total sense. (it doesn't)
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SunWuKung420
08/12/19 8:26:54 AM
#122:


Just remember, ohja isn't a shill for left vs right politics.
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BUMPED2002
08/12/19 10:05:55 AM
#123:


This whole thing stinks. Decades ago in the 1980s, there was an alleged child sex ring known as the "Franklin Child Prostitution Ring" which supposedly started at a "Boystown Home" for troubled kids in Omaha NEB. It was supposedly financed by some heavy hitters within the upper echelon of the GOP and American business all the way to the WH and involved satanism and devil worshippers.

The lead investigator of the senate sub-committee investing the case mysteriously die when his plane "broke up in mid-air"!

You can make up your mind but this was very interesting, to say the least, and the Epstein case just brought it all back.
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OhhhJa
08/12/19 11:11:29 AM
#124:


BlackScythe0 posted...
OhhhJa posted...
Also, you really dont believe the Clintons still have a massive amount of power? Hahaha ok bro


Yea so much power she lost.

I'm supposed to believe a loser did it when the guy with the most power in our country is all over the news hanging out with a pedophile sex trafficker talking about how young he likes his girls and said pedophile is in a prison under control of one of his most loyal sycophants who has already proven he will lie to the nation to defend him.

Yep, it was definitely the Clintons, makes total sense. (it doesn't)

You clearly didnt read the article with the lady saying trump never touched any of the girls that were at Epstein parties. I know people are desperate to pin this on trump but it just doesn't add up. Bill however went to Epstein island A LOT.

Anyway, I'm far from the only person who thinks the Clintons may have had something to do with his suicide. Maybe they did maybe they didnt. But it's more likely them than it would be trump. They have a lot stronger ties to epstein
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Peterass
08/12/19 11:19:48 AM
#125:


OhhhJa posted...
Anyway, I'm far from the only person who thinks the Clintons may have had something to do with his suicide. Maybe they did maybe they didnt. But it's more likely them than it would be trump. They have a lot stronger ties to epstein


Remember, libs will spend years chasing wild and farfetched conspiracy theories when it suits their narrative. As soon as someone on the left may be affected, then its unlikely or impossible and dismissed.
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OhhhJa
08/12/19 11:23:39 AM
#126:


Peterass posted...
OhhhJa posted...
Anyway, I'm far from the only person who thinks the Clintons may have had something to do with his suicide. Maybe they did maybe they didnt. But it's more likely them than it would be trump. They have a lot stronger ties to epstein


Remember, libs will spend years chasing wild and farfetched conspiracy theories when it suits their narrative. As soon as someone on the left may be affected, then its unlikely or impossible and dismissed.

Yeah they'll scream tinfoil hat while simultaneously claiming something must be true eith zero evidence
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DirtBasedSoap
08/12/19 12:25:17 PM
#127:


It is 100% fact that a large amount of people running this planet are child molesting Satan worshippers.

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darkknight109
08/12/19 12:49:10 PM
#128:


OhhhJa posted...
You clearly didnt read the article with the lady saying trump never touched any of the girls that were at Epstein parties.

You clearly didn't read my post or you'd know that I never said Trump did.

OhhhJa posted...
Anyway, I'm far from the only person who thinks the Clintons may have had something to do with his suicide.

That's true, there's plenty of other conspiracy theorists out there who refuse to recognize how ridiculous the entire premise of them assassinating a high profile prisoner in federal custody (who had already attempted suicide weeks ago) sounds.
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OhhhJa
08/12/19 1:08:01 PM
#129:


darkknight109 posted...
That's true, there's plenty of other conspiracy theorists out there who refuse to recognize how ridiculous the entire premise of them assassinating a high profile prisoner in federal custody (who had already attempted suicide weeks ago) sounds.

The fact that he wasnt under constant surveillance and the cameras "malfunctioned" is definitely plenty of reason to think there is more to this story

darkknight109 posted...
You clearly didn't read my post or you'd know that I never said Trump did.

That post wasnt even a response to you
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Mead
08/12/19 2:34:56 PM
#130:


The clintons hold no seat of power in our government so obviously theyre worried about losing that position so they somehow used their influence to assassinate a man in a prison that had 100% oversight from AG Barr who has demonstrated overt loyalty to the US president who had a close personal relationship with Epstein

Conservative mental gymnastics never fail to disappoint

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OhhhJa
08/12/19 4:37:34 PM
#131:


I'm nowhere near being a conservative lol
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Mead
08/12/19 4:51:54 PM
#132:


OhhhJa posted...
I'm nowhere near being a conservative lol


brz0kE1

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streamofthesky
08/12/19 5:15:42 PM
#133:


Can someone explain this to me?

Epstein was in federal custody. Which is currently under the purview of the Trump administration. And yet the conspiracy theories revolving around his death are claiming a Democrat who is completely out of power somehow orchestrated it, rather than...the guy actually in power, who Epstein also had conspicuous ties to?

Huh?
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Mead
08/12/19 5:23:56 PM
#134:


streamofthesky posted...
Can someone explain this to me?

Epstein was in federal custody. Which is currently under the purview of the Trump administration. And yet the conspiracy theories revolving around his death are claiming a Democrat who is completely out of power somehow orchestrated it, rather than...the guy actually in power, who Epstein also had conspicuous ties to?

Huh?


Two words

Benghazi

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Yellow
08/12/19 5:35:08 PM
#135:


There's honestly like no way this wasn't an assassination.

He was on suicide watch in a room designed in every possible way to keep someone from killing themselves, on top of having just tried to "kill himself" last week. The bedsheets are paper thin, the ceiling is unreachable with nothing to tie anything to.

He had dirt on every creep in power.

I mean, come on. How does this high profile guy hang himself on suicide watch?

He had dirt on the Democrats. And the Republicans. And probably queens and princes and lawyers and lobbyists... He ran a child sex trafficking ring.
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darkknight109
08/12/19 5:37:44 PM
#136:


Yellow posted...
I mean, come on. How does this high profile guy hang himself on suicide watch?

He doesn't.

He'd been taken off suicide watch two weeks prior to his death at his own lawyer's request.
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Mead
08/12/19 5:42:54 PM
#137:


darkknight109 posted...
He doesn't.

He'd been taken off suicide watch two weeks prior to his death at his own lawyer's request.


Even considering he wasnt on suicide watch he was without a doubt the highest profile prisoner at the facility, they removed his inmate from the cell for an unexplained reason, the guards neglected to do their check of his cell every 30 minutes as is their policy, and this is their first suicide in 21 years.

Either he was indeed killed to silence him or his suicide was simply allowed by such a gross level of corruption and/or incompetence that proper investigations need to be made and individuals at fault need to be held accountable.

This was entirely preventable. And someone other than AG Barr needs to lead the investigation because the man has no trust with the American people.

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OhhhJa
08/12/19 5:46:50 PM
#138:


Anyone who thinks this was just some silly accident is the bootlickingest mother fucker who would lap up any bullshit peddled by the establishment
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GanonsSpirit
08/12/19 5:47:55 PM
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And anyone who thinks the Clintons are behind it is a dumbass.
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OhhhJa
08/12/19 6:00:17 PM
#140:


GanonsSpirit posted...
And anyone who thinks the Clintons are behind it is a dumbass.

Anyone who thinks its trump is a bigger dumbass
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SunWuKung420
08/12/19 6:02:23 PM
#141:


Ohja, post your proof that it was the Clintons without using a YouTube video or an opinion piece on a highly biased website (usually trump leaning).
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Mead
08/12/19 6:15:04 PM
#142:


Theres likely a litany of potential people with motives from both the political and financial sector

to act like trump and members of his administration wouldnt be part of that group though is intentionally overlooking some plain as day facts

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Mead
08/12/19 9:29:13 PM
#143:


Feds are raiding his private island. This should have happened years ago

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fbi-agents-swarm-jeffrey-epstein-s-private-caribbean-island-n1041596

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BlackScythe0
08/12/19 11:31:39 PM
#144:


Mead posted...
Feds are raiding his private island. This should have happened years ago

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fbi-agents-swarm-jeffrey-epstein-s-private-caribbean-island-n1041596

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FrndNhbrHdCEman
08/13/19 12:40:15 PM
#145:


BlackScythe0 posted...
Yea so much power she lost.

I'm supposed to believe a loser did it when the guy with the most power in our country is all over the news hanging out with a pedophile sex trafficker talking about how young he likes his girls and said pedophile is in a prison under control of one of his most loyal sycophants who has already proven he will lie to the nation to defend him.

Yep, it was definitely the Clintons, makes total sense. (it doesn't)
Lmao. Gotta agree with ya. Yet people still believe.

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Sarcasthma
08/13/19 12:44:10 PM
#146:


Ja is suspended.

The Clintons have struck again.
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Blighboy
08/13/19 12:52:07 PM
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Hillary obviously killed Epstein. As evidence just look at all the other people she's been accused of killing.
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FrndNhbrHdCEman
08/13/19 12:54:05 PM
#148:


Sarcasthma posted...
Ja is suspended.

The Clintons have struck again.
He's can be an alright guy. But he's gotta stop with the speculation an what-ifs in political topics. Prolly being modded for baiting.

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Mead
08/13/19 12:57:09 PM
#149:


Blighboy posted...
Hillary obviously killed Epstein. As evidence just look at all the other people she's been accused of killing.


She is without a doubt the worst president weve ever had

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darkknight109
08/13/19 4:11:51 PM
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I feel like if Epstein was half as dangerous to people in the halls of power as everyone's making out, he'd be smart enough to have a dead-man switch contingency. Like, "Hey, I've got some documents in a safe deposit box somewhere in the Caribbean and an unnamed confidante has instructions to withdraw them and publicize them in the event I happen to meet an untimely end. Just saying."

Hanlon's Razor applies here. This looks less to me like malice and more like incompetence on behalf of the guards. Epstein was facing spending the rest of his time in prison, was sent to a jail that is notorious for being dangerous and underfunded, and had attempted suicide once already. No, it shouldn't have happened, but nothing that's come out thus far makes me seriously believe that foul play was involved.
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Mad_Max
08/13/19 4:26:34 PM
#151:


FrndNhbrHdCEman posted...
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streamofthesky
08/13/19 6:20:29 PM
#152:


darkknight109 posted...
I feel like if Epstein was half as dangerous to people in the halls of power as everyone's making out, he'd be smart enough to have a dead-man switch contingency. Like, "Hey, I've got some documents in a safe deposit box somewhere in the Caribbean and an unnamed confidante has instructions to withdraw them and publicize them in the event I happen to meet an untimely end. Just saying."

Hanlon's Razor applies here. This looks less to me like malice and more like incompetence on behalf of the guards. Epstein was facing spending the rest of his time in prison, was sent to a jail that is notorious for being dangerous and underfunded, and had attempted suicide once already. No, it shouldn't have happened, but nothing that's come out thus far makes me seriously believe that foul play was involved.

Uh...if Epstein was remotely intelligent, he would've realized he got super fucking lucky the first time there were charges in like 2005, that he got a corrupt dude like Acosta to save him.
And then taken his money and fled to somewhere that doesn't extradite to the U.S. and built a nice retirement mansion there.

When news broke that he was arrested, my legit first thought was, "why was that idiot even still here?"
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BlackScythe0
08/14/19 12:37:15 AM
#153:


streamofthesky posted...
darkknight109 posted...
I feel like if Epstein was half as dangerous to people in the halls of power as everyone's making out, he'd be smart enough to have a dead-man switch contingency. Like, "Hey, I've got some documents in a safe deposit box somewhere in the Caribbean and an unnamed confidante has instructions to withdraw them and publicize them in the event I happen to meet an untimely end. Just saying."

Hanlon's Razor applies here. This looks less to me like malice and more like incompetence on behalf of the guards. Epstein was facing spending the rest of his time in prison, was sent to a jail that is notorious for being dangerous and underfunded, and had attempted suicide once already. No, it shouldn't have happened, but nothing that's come out thus far makes me seriously believe that foul play was involved.

Uh...if Epstein was remotely intelligent, he would've realized he got super fucking lucky the first time there were charges in like 2005, that he got a corrupt dude like Acosta to save him.
And then taken his money and fled to somewhere that doesn't extradite to the U.S. and built a nice retirement mansion there.

When news broke that he was arrested, my legit first thought was, "why was that idiot even still here?"


A guy who has hung out with presidents and has a lot of powerful friends that he has dirt on?

Seems like the sort of guy who didn't think anyone would ever go after him. I honestly didn't even know who he was until I saw that article about Acosta giving him that illegal deal a few months back.
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