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AlephZero 08/14/19 12:36:17 PM #1:	https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/18/18-280/112010/20190812151259076_18-280bsacSenatorSheldonWhitehouse.pdf The Supreme Court is not well. And the people know it. Perhaps the Court can heal itself before the public demands it be restructured in order to reduce the influence of politics. Particularly on the urgent issue of gun control, a nation desperately needs it to heal. Putting aside the weirdness of threatening the Supreme Court, the case itself is an interesting one. NYC has a law that a handgun registered in New York City cannot leave the city limits for any reason. If you want to go to a range outside of the city, if you own a home or cabin or something outside the city and want to take it there, if you want to hunt with it, all illegal. The city spent five years defending the law as this case worked its way through the lower courts, claiming that it was necessary for public safety. Now that it's before SCOTUS they've completely abandoned that tactic. Instead of defending the law on its merits they've gotten New York State to pass a law that nullifies the city's law, and are claiming that the Court should moot the case (ignoring that if the Court does moot the case they'll just roll back the state law and reinstate the city's law). It's all very bizarre, and now senators are threatening the Court if they don't rule a certain way. What. --- "life is overrated" - Seiichi Omori 01001100 01010101 01000101 00100000 00110100 00110000 00110010 <cite>AlephZero posted [p:926056994] in Democrats ... [t:77938495]...</cite> <quote>https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/18/18-280/112010/20190812151259076_18-280bsacSenatorSheldonWhitehouse.pdf The Supreme Court is not well. And the people know it. Perhaps the Court can heal itself before the public demands it be restructured in order to reduce the influence of politics. Particularly on the urgent issue of gun control, a nation desperately needs it to heal. Putting aside the weirdness of threatening the Supreme Court, the case itself is an interesting one. NYC has a law that a handgun registered in New York City cannot leave the city limits for any reason. If you want to go to a range outside of the city, if you own a home or cabin or something outside the city and want to take it there, if you want to hunt with it, all illegal. The city spent five years defending the law as this case worked its way through the lower courts, claiming that it was necessary for public safety. Now that it's before SCOTUS they've completely abandoned that tactic. Instead of defending the law on its merits they've gotten New York State to pass a law that nullifies the city's law, and are claiming that the Court should moot the case (ignoring that if the Court does moot the case they'll just roll back the state law and reinstate the city's law). It's all very bizarre, and now senators are threatening the Court if they don't rule a certain way. What.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 08/14/19 12:37:30 PM #2:	Good --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:926057044] in Democrats ... [t:77938495]...</cite> <quote>Good</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 08/14/19 12:38:12 PM #4:	If McConnell wants to fuck with the government to pack the SCOTUS I say fight fire with fire --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:926057084] in Democrats ... [t:77938495]...</cite> <quote>If McConnell wants to fuck with the government to pack the SCOTUS I say fight fire with fire</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Goats 08/14/19 12:38:13 PM #5:	"Take THAT Dems, I trolled u on gamefaqs!" --- Antifar had made one major error though. He'd ignored the sign that had cautioned him about cruelbuffalos wearing turbams. There was a key in between them. <cite>Goats posted [p:926057086] in Democrats ... [t:77938495]...</cite> <quote>"Take THAT Dems, I trolled u on gamefaqs!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
E32005 08/14/19 12:38:23 PM #6:	AlephZero posted... The Supreme Court is not well. And the people know it. they aren't wrong....whats the deal with exercising your rights here?? --- https://i.imgtc.com/IR4XrBA.gif https://i.imgtc.com/7X1rBRv.gif <cite>E32005 posted [p:926057093] in Democrats ... [t:77938495]...</cite> <quote>AlephZero posted...</cite> <quote>The Supreme Court is not well. And the people know it. </quote> they aren't wrong....whats the deal with exercising your rights here??</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
justaguy3492 08/14/19 12:39:31 PM #7:	Just put term limits in, problem solved for both sides. --- Gt: justaguy3492 <cite>justaguy3492 posted [p:926057152] in Democrats ... [t:77938495]...</cite> <quote>Just put term limits in, problem solved for both sides.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 08/14/19 12:40:06 PM #8:	tl;dr "Judicial fiat is just fine, until it's against my interests" <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:926057175] in Democrats ... [t:77938495]...</cite> <quote>tl;dr "Judicial fiat is just fine, until it's against my interests"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IMNOTRAGED 08/14/19 12:40:43 PM #9:	Doom_Art posted... If the GOP wants to fuck with the government to pack the SCOTUS I say fight fire with fire --- https://imgur.com/kkm3QaD <cite>IMNOTRAGED posted [p:926057188] in Democrats ... [t:77938495]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote>If the GOP wants to fuck with the government to pack the SCOTUS I say fight fire with fire</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thatuser 08/14/19 12:45:20 PM #10:	New York acts like the rest of Americans do, or should, feel the same way they do. They don't. I'm fine with the second amendment. Sucks people do stupid shit, but that shouldn't infringe on constitutional rights. <cite>Thatuser posted [p:926057397] in Democrats ... [t:77938495]...</cite> <quote>New York acts like the rest of Americans do, or should, feel the same way they do. They don't. I'm fine with the second amendment. Sucks people do stupid shit, but that shouldn't infringe on constitutional rights.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paper_Okami 08/14/19 12:45:20 PM #11:	9 people should not have the power to decide the fate of hundreds of milliions Abolish the SC --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie <cite>Paper_Okami posted [p:926057398] in Democrats ... [t:77938495]...</cite> <quote>9 people should not have the power to decide the fate of hundreds of milliions Abolish the SC </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZMythos 08/14/19 12:49:40 PM #12:	We need to restructure our gov't so that every major official is directly elected by popular vote. President, Congress, Senators, State and Federal Justices, etc. hold too much power for indirect representation and appointments to be a thing. Also impose term limits on all of the above. We should not have 90% of the legislature be composed of old white men who win in gerrymandered districts every election. --- Rainbow Dashing: "it's just star wars" AutumnEspirit: kissu <cite>ZMythos posted [p:926057580] in Democrats ... [t:77938495]...</cite> <quote>We need to restructure our gov't so that every major official is directly elected by popular vote. President, Congress, Senators, State and Federal Justices, etc. hold too much power for indirect representation and appointments to be a thing. Also impose term limits on all of the above. We should not have 90% of the legislature be composed of old white men who win in gerrymandered districts every election.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 08/14/19 12:51:42 PM #13:	I'm shocked that so many Democrats are okay with this. It didn't work for Roosevelt, and I can't imagine it would work today either --- https://imgur.com/VeNBg https://imgur.com/gd5jC8q https://imgur.com/PKIy7 https://imgur.com/3p29JqP <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:926057657] in Democrats ... [t:77938495]...</cite> <quote>I'm shocked that so many Democrats are okay with this. It didn't work for Roosevelt, and I can't imagine it would work today either</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Machete 08/14/19 12:52:39 PM #14:	Doom_Art posted... If McConnell wants to fuck with the government to pack the SCOTUS I say fight fire with fire --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>Machete posted [p:926057696] in Democrats ... [t:77938495]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote>If McConnell wants to fuck with the government to pack the SCOTUS I say fight fire with fire</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BigDD67 08/14/19 1:05:08 PM #15:	ZMythos posted... We need to restructure our gov't so that every major official is directly elected by popular vote. No. I don't want California and New York to decide everything. The electoral vote is necessary so a few states don't decide the election. --- Am I evil? Yes I *** am!! <cite>BigDD67 posted [p:926058217] in Democrats ... [t:77938495]...</cite> <quote>ZMythos posted...</cite> <quote>We need to restructure our gov't so that every major official is directly elected by popular vote. </quote> No. I don't want California and New York to decide everything. The electoral vote is necessary so a few states don't decide the election.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 08/14/19 1:18:01 PM #16:	BigDD67 posted... so a few states don't decide the election. Ah yes so as opposed to California NY and Texas deciding elections we have Ohio, Wisconsin, and PA --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:926058770] in Democrats ... [t:77938495]...</cite> <quote>BigDD67 posted...</cite> <quote>so a few states don't decide the election.</quote> Ah yes so as opposed to California NY and Texas deciding elections we have Ohio, Wisconsin, and PA</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlephZero 08/14/19 1:19:33 PM #17:	Ruth Bader Ginsburg opposes court packing. https://www.npr.org/2019/07/24/744633713/justice-ginsburg-i-am-very-much-alive --- "life is overrated" - Seiichi Omori 01001100 01010101 01000101 00100000 00110100 00110000 00110010 <cite>AlephZero posted [p:926058835] in Democrats ... [t:77938495]...</cite> <quote>Ruth Bader Ginsburg opposes court packing. https://www.npr.org/2019/07/24/744633713/justice-ginsburg-i-am-very-much-alive</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Goats 08/14/19 1:20:24 PM #18:	BigDD67 posted... ZMythos posted... We need to restructure our gov't so that every major official is directly elected by popular vote. No. I don't want California and New York to decide everything. The electoral vote is necessary so a few states don't decide the election. Why should small dick energy populations in flyover states have as much say as big dick energy Atlas states that are propping up the economy? --- Antifar had made one major error though. He'd ignored the sign that had cautioned him about cruelbuffalos wearing turbams. There was a key in between them. <cite>Goats posted [p:926058872] in Democrats ... [t:77938495]...</cite> <quote>BigDD67 posted...</cite> <quote>ZMythos posted...</cite> <quote>We need to restructure our gov't so that every major official is directly elected by popular vote. </quote> No. I don't want California and New York to decide everything. The electoral vote is necessary so a few states don't decide the election.</quote> Why should small dick energy populations in flyover states have as much say as big dick energy Atlas states that are propping up the economy?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Intro2Logic 08/14/19 1:21:05 PM #19:	UnholyMudcrab posted... I'm shocked that so many Democrats are okay with this. It didn't work for Roosevelt, and I can't imagine it would work today either It did work for FDR, though. --- Have you tried thinking rationally? <cite>Intro2Logic posted [p:926058890] in Democrats ... [t:77938495]...</cite> <quote>UnholyMudcrab posted...</cite> <quote>I'm shocked that so many Democrats are okay with this. It didn't work for Roosevelt, and I can't imagine it would work today either</quote> It did work for FDR, though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 08/14/19 1:29:32 PM #20:	BigDD67 posted... ZMythos posted... We need to restructure our gov't so that every major official is directly elected by popular vote. No. I don't want California and New York to decide everything. The electoral vote is necessary so a few states don't decide the election. But you're okay with rural America having a disproportionate say in things. --- Be wary of boarding the hype train, lest you end up on the ruse cruise... - nanobuilder (r/nintendo) http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:926059234] in Democrats ... [t:77938495]...</cite> <quote>BigDD67 posted...</cite> <quote>ZMythos posted...</cite> <quote>We need to restructure our gov't so that every major official is directly elected by popular vote. </quote> No. I don't want California and New York to decide everything. The electoral vote is necessary so a few states don't decide the election.</quote> But you're okay with rural America having a disproportionate say in things.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 08/14/19 1:33:10 PM #21:	Solar_Crimson posted... But you're okay with rural America having a disproportionate say in things. Because they're conservative --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:926059385] in Democrats ... [t:77938495]...</cite> <quote>Solar_Crimson posted...</cite> <quote>But you're okay with rural America having a disproportionate say in things.</quote> Because they're conservative</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 08/14/19 1:35:40 PM #22:	Doom_Art posted... Solar_Crimson posted... But you're okay with rural America having a disproportionate say in things. Because they're conservative Apart from, you know, muh farm subsidies <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:926059493] in Democrats ... [t:77938495]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote>Solar_Crimson posted...</cite> <quote>But you're okay with rural America having a disproportionate say in things.</quote> Because they're conservative</quote> Apart from, you know, muh farm subsidies</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Awesome 08/14/19 1:36:48 PM #23:	democrats are just angry that trump might win next year and nominate another republican after ruth retires and it will be 6-3. --- Hello. <cite>Awesome posted [p:926059539] in Democrats ... [t:77938495]...</cite> <quote>democrats are just angry that trump might win next year and nominate another republican after ruth retires and it will be 6-3.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZMythos 08/14/19 1:37:07 PM #25:	BigDD67 posted... No. I don't want California and New York to decide everything. The electoral vote is necessary so a few states don't decide the election. A few states already currently decide the election. Popular vote ensures your vote matters just as much as someone from Cali/NY --- Rainbow Dashing: "it's just star wars" AutumnEspirit: kissu <cite>ZMythos posted [p:926059554] in Democrats ... [t:77938495]...</cite> <quote>BigDD67 posted...</cite> <quote>No. I don't want California and New York to decide everything. The electoral vote is necessary so a few states don't decide the election. </quote> A few states already currently decide the election. Popular vote ensures your vote matters just as much as someone from Cali/NY</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 08/14/19 1:38:33 PM #26:	ZMythos posted... BigDD67 posted... No. I don't want California and New York to decide everything. The electoral vote is necessary so a few states don't decide the election. A few states already currently decide the election. Popular vote ensures your vote matters just as much as someone from Cali/NY All a popular vote does is shift it from "red vs blue" to "urban vs everyone else", with the suburbs being the swing vote. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:926059605] in Democrats ... [t:77938495]...</cite> <quote>ZMythos posted...</cite> <quote>BigDD67 posted...</cite> <quote>No. I don't want California and New York to decide everything. The electoral vote is necessary so a few states don't decide the election. </quote> A few states already currently decide the election. Popular vote ensures your vote matters just as much as someone from Cali/NY</quote> All a popular vote does is shift it from "red vs blue" to "urban vs everyone else", with the suburbs being the swing vote.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 08/14/19 1:40:32 PM #27:	Questionmarktarius posted... All a popular vote does is shift it from "red vs blue" to "urban vs everyone else", with the suburbs being the swing vote. ZMythos posted... Popular vote ensures your vote matters just as much as someone from Cali/NY --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:926059690] in Democrats ... [t:77938495]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>All a popular vote does is shift it from "red vs blue" to "urban vs everyone else", with the suburbs being the swing vote.</quote> ZMythos posted...</cite> <quote>Popular vote ensures your vote matters just as much as someone from Cali/NY</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 08/14/19 1:42:39 PM #28:	Questionmarktarius posted... ZMythos posted... BigDD67 posted... No. I don't want California and New York to decide everything. The electoral vote is necessary so a few states don't decide the election. A few states already currently decide the election. Popular vote ensures your vote matters just as much as someone from Cali/NY All a popular vote does is shift it from "red vs blue" to "urban vs everyone else", with the suburbs being the swing vote. Which is still preferable to the current system. --- Be wary of boarding the hype train, lest you end up on the ruse cruise... - nanobuilder (r/nintendo) http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:926059790] in Democrats ... [t:77938495]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>ZMythos posted...</cite> <quote>BigDD67 posted...</cite> <quote>No. I don't want California and New York to decide everything. The electoral vote is necessary so a few states don't decide the election. </quote> A few states already currently decide the election. Popular vote ensures your vote matters just as much as someone from Cali/NY</quote> All a popular vote does is shift it from "red vs blue" to "urban vs everyone else", with the suburbs being the swing vote.</quote> Which is still preferable to the current system.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ElatedVenusaur 08/14/19 1:43:03 PM #29:	shockthemonkey posted... Packing the Supreme Court is a fucking stupid idea The stupid idea was investing life-time appointees with the ability to overrule Congress in the first place. The legislature ought to be the supreme power in a democracy. And it ought to be democratically-elected too. <cite>ElatedVenusaur posted [p:926059808] in Democrats ... [t:77938495]...</cite> <quote>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Packing the Supreme Court is a fucking stupid idea</quote> The stupid idea was investing life-time appointees with the ability to overrule Congress in the first place. The legislature ought to be the supreme power in a democracy. And it ought to be democratically-elected too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 08/14/19 1:45:16 PM #30:	ElatedVenusaur posted... shockthemonkey posted... Packing the Supreme Court is a fucking stupid idea The stupid idea was investing life-time appointees with the ability to overrule Congress in the first place. The legislature ought to be the supreme power in a democracy. And it ought to be democratically-elected too. SCOTUS should only have the ability to undo laws, not somehow create them. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:926059909] in Democrats ... [t:77938495]...</cite> <quote>ElatedVenusaur posted...</cite> <quote>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Packing the Supreme Court is a fucking stupid idea</quote> The stupid idea was investing life-time appointees with the ability to overrule Congress in the first place. The legislature ought to be the supreme power in a democracy. And it ought to be democratically-elected too.</quote> SCOTUS should only have the ability to undo laws, not somehow create them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SpudForce 08/14/19 1:46:20 PM #31:	Doom_Art posted... Good --- And when he gets to Heaven, to St. Peter he will tell, one more soldier reporting sir, I have served my time in hell. <cite>SpudForce posted [p:926059952] in Democrats ... [t:77938495]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted... </cite> <quote>Good</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 08/14/19 1:47:09 PM #32:	Neutering SCOTUS is also acceptable --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:926059990] in Democrats ... [t:77938495]...</cite> <quote>Neutering SCOTUS is also acceptable</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZMythos 08/14/19 2:14:41 PM #33:	Questionmarktarius posted... All a popular vote does is shift it from "red vs blue" to "urban vs everyone else", with the suburbs being the swing vote. No it doesn't. Your vote has as much influence as anyone else's --- Rainbow Dashing: "it's just star wars" AutumnEspirit: kissu <cite>ZMythos posted [p:926061223] in Democrats ... [t:77938495]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>All a popular vote does is shift it from "red vs blue" to "urban vs everyone else", with the suburbs being the swing vote. </quote> No it doesn't. Your vote has as much influence as anyone else's</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Polycosm 08/14/19 2:22:39 PM #34:	Packing isn't a solution to the problem, it's a tit-for-tat maneuver... albeit a totally justified one. I'll turn a blind eye to whatever the Democrats decide to do in response to McConnell stealing Garland's seat. --- I bow before my emperor, Advokaiser-- winner of the 2019 guru contest. (thengamer.com/guru) <cite>Polycosm posted [p:926061550] in Democrats ... [t:77938495]...</cite> <quote>Packing isn't a solution to the problem, it's a tit-for-tat maneuver... albeit a totally justified one. I'll turn a blind eye to whatever the Democrats decide to do in response to McConnell stealing Garland's seat.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 08/14/19 2:24:39 PM #35:	ZMythos posted... Questionmarktarius posted... All a popular vote does is shift it from "red vs blue" to "urban vs everyone else", with the suburbs being the swing vote. No it doesn't. Your vote has as much influence as anyone else's But, the same fucking things will happen. Each side will have bastions that they reliably count on and both ignore, and all the focus and pandering is slathered onto the fence-setters. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:926061631] in Democrats ... [t:77938495]...</cite> <quote>ZMythos posted...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>All a popular vote does is shift it from "red vs blue" to "urban vs everyone else", with the suburbs being the swing vote. </quote> No it doesn't. Your vote has as much influence as anyone else's</quote> But, the same fucking things will happen. Each side will have bastions that they reliably count on and both ignore, and all the focus and pandering is slathered onto the fence-setters.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZMythos 08/14/19 2:28:05 PM #36:	Questionmarktarius posted... But, the same fucking things will happen. Each side will have bastions that they reliably count on and both ignore, and all the focus and pandering is slathered onto the fence-setters. Okay but now they're appealing to people instead of land. Y'know, that's the point of elections. --- Rainbow Dashing: "it's just star wars" AutumnEspirit: kissu <cite>ZMythos posted [p:926061769] in Democrats ... [t:77938495]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote> But, the same fucking things will happen. Each side will have bastions that they reliably count on and both ignore, and all the focus and pandering is slathered onto the fence-setters.</quote> Okay but now they're appealing to people instead of land. Y'know, that's the point of elections.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bloodychess 08/14/19 2:29:37 PM #37:	Paper_Okami posted... 9 people should not have the power to decide the fate of hundreds of milliions Abolish the SC Spooking posted... "When the court was left-leaning, it was perfect. Now that it's ruling the other way? REEE!" These folks are following the temper tantrum r/politics started. --- "Everyone attack." - The man in the back <cite>Bloodychess posted [p:926061821] in Democrats ... [t:77938495]...</cite> <quote>Paper_Okami posted...</cite> <quote>9 people should not have the power to decide the fate of hundreds of milliions Abolish the SC </quote> Spooking posted...</cite> <quote>"When the court was left-leaning, it was perfect. Now that it's ruling the other way? REEE!" These folks are following the temper tantrum r/politics started.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 08/14/19 2:33:21 PM #38:	Intro2Logic posted... UnholyMudcrab posted... I'm shocked that so many Democrats are okay with this. It didn't work for Roosevelt, and I can't imagine it would work today either It did work for FDR, though. By what reasoning? He spent a bunch of political capital and accomplished nothing by it except giving his adversaries ammunition against him. --- https://imgur.com/VeNBg https://imgur.com/gd5jC8q https://imgur.com/PKIy7 https://imgur.com/3p29JqP <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:926061984] in Democrats ... [t:77938495]...</cite> <quote><cite>Intro2Logic posted...</cite> <quote>UnholyMudcrab posted...</cite> <quote> I'm shocked that so many Democrats are okay with this. It didn't work for Roosevelt, and I can't imagine it would work today either</quote> It did work for FDR, though.</quote> By what reasoning? He spent a bunch of political capital and accomplished nothing by it except giving his adversaries ammunition against him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 08/14/19 2:34:21 PM #39:	UnholyMudcrab posted... Intro2Logic posted... UnholyMudcrab posted... I'm shocked that so many Democrats are okay with this. It didn't work for Roosevelt, and I can't imagine it would work today either It did work for FDR, though. By what reasoning? He spent a bunch of political capital and accomplished nothing by it except giving his adversaries ammunition against him. to be fair, the political landscape has changed a lot since FDR --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:926062030] in Democrats ... [t:77938495]...</cite> <quote>UnholyMudcrab posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Intro2Logic posted...</cite> <quote>UnholyMudcrab posted...</cite> <quote> I'm shocked that so many Democrats are okay with this. It didn't work for Roosevelt, and I can't imagine it would work today either</quote> It did work for FDR, though.</quote> By what reasoning? He spent a bunch of political capital and accomplished nothing by it except giving his adversaries ammunition against him.</quote> to be fair, the political landscape has changed a lot since FDR</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 08/14/19 2:51:14 PM #40:	As they should. Taking the high road and trying to fight fair gets them nowhere. All you right wingers who are mad about this should be more mad at your precious party for starting the cheating and giving themselves or taking advantage of their unfair advantages. If Republicans weren't so awful then the Dems wouldn't have to stoop to their level. --- https://imgur.com/hslUvRN When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:926062701] in Democrats ... [t:77938495]...</cite> <quote>As they should. Taking the high road and trying to fight fair gets them nowhere. All you right wingers who are mad about this should be more mad at your precious party for starting the cheating and giving themselves or taking advantage of their unfair advantages. If Republicans weren't so awful then the Dems wouldn't have to stoop to their level.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bloodychess 08/14/19 2:57:27 PM #41:	Southernfatman posted... As they should. Taking the high road and trying to fight fair gets them nowhere. All you right wingers who are mad about this should be more mad at your precious party for starting the cheating and giving themselves or taking advantage of their unfair advantages. If Republicans weren't so awful then the Dems wouldn't have to stoop to their level. "When they go low, we go high!!" --- "Everyone attack." - The man in the back <cite>Bloodychess posted [p:926062955] in Democrats ... [t:77938495]...</cite> <quote>Southernfatman posted...</cite> <quote>As they should. Taking the high road and trying to fight fair gets them nowhere. All you right wingers who are mad about this should be more mad at your precious party for starting the cheating and giving themselves or taking advantage of their unfair advantages. If Republicans weren't so awful then the Dems wouldn't have to stoop to their level.</quote> "When they go low, we go high!!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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