Poll of the Day > Chinese Immigrant who SPEAKS NO ENGLISH is SHOT DEAD in a MARIJUANA STING!!!

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49 y/o Chinese Immigrant, Li Xi Wang who lived in California was SHOT DEAD after a marijuana drug bust..and police shot him because he didn't understand what they were saying as he spoke NO ENGLISH!!

They were searching his home for suspicion of illegal drug activity as the single father has been in the US since 2005 but did not speak english according to family lawyer Daniel Deng

Deng sid "He could have believed he was being robbed"

His only involvement in the drug trafficking operation was to watch the marijuana as now they have filed a claim against the city of Chino with intent to sue for damages

He was hired only to take care of the marijuana but that he wasn't a drug dealer nor smuggler as he was a simple worker trying to make a living by caring for marijuana

Body camera footage shows armed cops searching several rooms while calling out in English and Spanish to anyone hiding to come out and as officers walked past Wang while he was hiding behind an opened door, an officer says "I'm gonna..." and it stops mid-way when he noticed Wang and said "Let me see your hands, dude" before a single shot his fired..then the cop says "Oh s***, f*** shots fired" as Wang slumps to the floor

The San Bernadino County Sheriff's Office will determine if the shooting was lawful as they are also leading the drug trafficking investigation

Brian Dunn, another family lawyer said the shooting violated protocols to use deadly force because Wang didn't pose a threat and had nothing in his hands.

53 y/o Ai Yue Cai, a woman who was living there was arrested. She too doesn't speak english

Do you support Marijuana Drug Busts?

Wang - Deceased



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ya, that be an unlawful shooting.
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If he didn't speak English and I'm assuming he couldn't speak Spanish either (because they also issued the orders in Spanish), who exactly was running this drug ring? Does the Triad have much presence in the US's marijuana trade?

mrduckbear posted...

He was hired only to take care of the marijuana but that he wasn't a drug dealer nor smuggler as he was a simple worker trying to make a living by caring for marijuana

You make it sound like he had no involvement in their operations while simultaneously acknowledging his involvement.

mrduckbear posted...

Body camera footage shows armed cops searching several rooms while calling out in English and Spanish to anyone hiding to come out and as officers walked past Wang while he was hiding behind an opened door, an officer says "I'm gonna..." and it stops mid-way when he noticed Wang and said "Let me see your hands, dude" before a single shot his fired..then the cop says "Oh s***, f*** shots fired" as Wang slumps to the floor

But how did he react when the cops confronted him? We know that he couldn't speak English so the verbal command couldn't be understood, but there's a bit in there where the lawyer talks about "He could have believed he was being robbed" that makes me wonder what he was doing in response. I'm also wondering how much recon the cops did beforehand. The fact that the suspects spoke Chinese seems to be something that they should have known before going into the raid.

mrduckbear posted...

Do you support Marijuana Drug Busts?

I support enforcing laws, because otherwise there's no point in having laws.
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What are they teaching in the police academy these days? There was a time where you had to physically pose a threat before police could use deadly force. Now you flirt with death just by giving some cops a dirty look.

Sidenote: How do you live in the US for 15 years and not learn a lick of English or Spanish?
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Keebs05 posted...

Sidenote: How do you live in the US for 15 years and not learn a lick of English or Spanish?

The US does not bear an official language sanction the way many other countries do, so he could have been from an insular community with no responsibility to learn either language
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how this dude learned no english in the apparently almost 15 years of being in america
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Lokarin posted...

Keebs05 posted...

Sidenote: How do you live in the US for 15 years and not learn a lick of English or Spanish?

he could have been from an insular community with no responsibility to learn either language

Sounds like a shitty way to go through life.
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Such heroes.

It's a good thing those cops are out protecting me like that.

/s
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Keebs05 posted...

Lokarin posted...

Keebs05 posted...

Sidenote: How do you live in the US for 15 years and not learn a lick of English or Spanish?

he could have been from an insular community with no responsibility to learn either language

Sounds like a shitty way to go through life.

let's be honest, most americans only speak english, so we can't throw stones, ok?
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ClarkDuke posted...

Keebs05 posted...

Lokarin posted...

Keebs05 posted...

Sidenote: How do you live in the US for 15 years and not learn a lick of English or Spanish?

he could have been from an insular community with no responsibility to learn either language

Sounds like a shitty way to go through life.

let's be honest, most americans only speak english, so we can't throw stones, ok?

Not really comparable. And nobody is throwing stones.
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Keebs05 posted...

ClarkDuke posted...

Keebs05 posted...

Lokarin posted...

Keebs05 posted...

Sidenote: How do you live in the US for 15 years and not learn a lick of English or Spanish?

he could have been from an insular community with no responsibility to learn either language

Sounds like a shitty way to go through life.

let's be honest, most americans only speak english, so we can't throw stones, ok?

Not really comparable. And nobody is throwing stones.

it really is comparable, ok?
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ClarkDuke posted...

Keebs05 posted...

ClarkDuke posted...

Keebs05 posted...

Lokarin posted...

Keebs05 posted...

Sidenote: How do you live in the US for 15 years and not learn a lick of English or Spanish?

he could have been from an insular community with no responsibility to learn either language

Sounds like a shitty way to go through life.

let's be honest, most americans only speak english, so we can't throw stones, ok?

Not really comparable. And nobody is throwing stones.

it really is comparable, ok?

Not really.
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Keebs05 posted...

ClarkDuke posted...

Keebs05 posted...

ClarkDuke posted...

Keebs05 posted...

Lokarin posted...

Keebs05 posted...

Sidenote: How do you live in the US for 15 years and not learn a lick of English or Spanish?

he could have been from an insular community with no responsibility to learn either language

Sounds like a shitty way to go through life.

let's be honest, most americans only speak english, so we can't throw stones, ok?

Not really comparable. And nobody is throwing stones.

it really is comparable, ok?

Not really.

it is, ok?
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ClarkDuke posted...

it is, ok?

Nope
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Keebs05 posted...

Sidenote: How do you live in the US for 15 years and not learn a lick of English or Spanish?

While you have largely insular communities in certain areas (Chinatown being the most immediate example, especially since he lived in California) and services that offer support for people who don't want to learn a language, it's still a good question. At a certain point, it seems like you'd *have* to pick up something.
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Keebs05 posted...

ClarkDuke posted...

it is, ok?

Nope

then expand on how its not comparable, i'm genuinely curious, ok?
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ClarkDuke posted...

Keebs05 posted...

ClarkDuke posted...

it is, ok?

Nope

then expand on how its not comparable, i'm genuinely curious, ok?

On one hand, you have an English speaker living in a country where a majority of people speak English. On the other, you have a Chinese speaker, who has been unable to or unwilling to learn either of the two most used languages in the country and possibly lives in a secular community that speaks his native tongue.

How do you compare the two? In what way is having to stay in a secular community to be understood not a shitty way to go through life?
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ClarkDuke posted...

Keebs05 posted...

ClarkDuke posted...

it is, ok?

Nope

then expand on how its not comparable, i'm genuinely curious, ok?

Americans aren't living in China without learning Chinese for 15 years.
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Keebs05 posted...

ClarkDuke posted...

Keebs05 posted...

ClarkDuke posted...

it is, ok?

Nope

then expand on how its not comparable, i'm genuinely curious, ok?

On one hand, you have an English speaker living in a country where a majority of people speak English. On the other, you have a Chinese speaker, who has been unable to or unwilling to learn either of the two most used languages in the country and possibly lives in a secular community that speaks his native tongue.

How do you compare the two? In what way is having to stay in a secular community to be understood not a shitty way to go through life?

well, i was trying to follow, until at the end were you jumped to a conclusion about demanding someone speaks a statistically common language, ok?
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ClarkDuke posted...

Keebs05 posted...

ClarkDuke posted...

Keebs05 posted...

ClarkDuke posted...

it is, ok?

Nope

then expand on how its not comparable, i'm genuinely curious, ok?

On one hand, you have an English speaker living in a country where a majority of people speak English. On the other, you have a Chinese speaker, who has been unable to or unwilling to learn either of the two most used languages in the country and possibly lives in a secular community that speaks his native tongue.

How do you compare the two? In what way is having to stay in a secular community to be understood not a shitty way to go through life?

well, i was trying to follow, until at the end were you jumped to a conclusion about demanding someone speaks a statistically common language, ok?

Speaking of jumping to conclusions, where did I demand anyone learn a language?
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Ya implied the immigrant should've learned another language by now fam.
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FrndNhbrHdCEman posted...

Ya implied the immigrant should've learned another language by now fam.

I pointed out that in 15 years, he hasn't learned another language. I implied nothing. I demanded nothing. If an immigrant doesn't want to learn some of the common languages of the country in which they reside, that's their prerogative. But, as I said earlier in the thread, limiting yourself to a community that speaks the same language as you in a country that does not isn't a particularly enjoyable way to live. At least in my opinion.
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Keebs05 posted...

FrndNhbrHdCEman posted...

Ya implied the immigrant should've learned another language by now fam.

I pointed out that in 15 years, he hasn't learned another language. I implied nothing. I demanded nothing. If an immigrant doesn't want to learn some of the common languages of the country in which they reside, that's their prerogative. But, as I said earlier in the thread, limiting yourself to a community that speaks the same language as you in a country that does not isn't a particularly enjoyable way to live. At least in my opinion.

Neithers getting shot.
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FrndNhbrHdCEman posted...

Keebs05 posted...

FrndNhbrHdCEman posted...

Ya implied the immigrant should've learned another language by now fam.

I pointed out that in 15 years, he hasn't learned another language. I implied nothing. I demanded nothing. If an immigrant doesn't want to learn some of the common languages of the country in which they reside, that's their prerogative. But, as I said earlier in the thread, limiting yourself to a community that speaks the same language as you in a country that does not isn't a particularly enjoyable way to live. At least in my opinion.

Neithers getting shot.

What an arbitrary response. I never said it was. My initial post derided the recent flurry of trigger-happy police.
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This is probably the first time since the revamp that the ignore feature has hidden a substantial amount of conversation for me, not that I imagine I'm missing much.
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Not really arbitrary. Your forgetting the immigrants aren't kids. They didn't have the opportunity for American schooling in 10 years or free programs without the fear of deportation. And in this situation they're surrounded by fellow native speakers.
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FrndNhbrHdCEman posted...

Not really arbitrary. Your forgetting the immigrants aren't kids. They didn't have the opportunity for American schooling in 10 years or free programs without the fear of deportation. And in this situation they're surrounded by fellow native speakers.

And that's great. But, as I've said again and again, if you're only speaking your native tongue in a country that doesn't speak it, you're drastically limiting yourself in terms of where you can go or who you are able to communicate with.

If they're happy that way, great. But it doesn't seem like an enjoyable way to live life.
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FrndNhbrHdCEman posted...

Ya implied the immigrant should've learned another language by now fam.

Imagine a 15 year old American not understanding a word of English. That's how ridiculous this guy's situation is.
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mrduckbear posted...

Wang

heh
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Why didnt he at least speak french

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I think the first thing I'd learn to say in the language of a foreign country I was living in is "I don't speak <language>".

Je ne parle pas francais.
Ich spreche nicht Deutsch.
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honestly a lot of these stories just make some police seem like cowards

i mean if the guy had a gun in his hand or was running at the officer then yeah you should probably shoot him

theres no reason to use deadly force though when you dont even know if a person is a threat. Some folks should not be in law enforcement.

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Kyuubi4269 posted...

FrndNhbrHdCEman posted...

Ya implied the immigrant should've learned another language by now fam.

Imagine a 15 year old American not understanding a word of English. That's how ridiculous this guy's situation is.

No. It's not the same.

1.) language acquisition is easier when younger
2.) a 15 year old america will speak english every day and be surrounded by people who speak english every day in most situations. It's likely that this person spent most of his time speaking chinese with people who also could speak chinese to him. If you live in a community where you don't need to speak English to communicate, it's trivial to survive without it.

Lokarin posted...

Keebs05 posted...

Sidenote: How do you live in the US for 15 years and not learn a lick of English or Spanish?

The US does not bear an official language sanction the way many other countries do, so he could have been from an insular community with no responsibility to learn either language

Most assume that the official languages of the US are English and Spanish because all legal documents are written in both languages
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More needless violence. Thanks failed war on human freedoms.
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Hop103 posted...

Lokarin posted...

Keebs05 posted...

Sidenote: How do you live in the US for 15 years and not learn a lick of English or Spanish?

The US does not bear an official language sanction the way many other countries do, so he could have been from an insular community with no responsibility to learn either language

Most assume that the official languages of the US are English and Spanish because all legal documents are written in both languages

It's actually kinda weird that they aren't officially declared official langues, actually.
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Fam_Fam posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

FrndNhbrHdCEman posted...

Ya implied the immigrant should've learned another language by now fam.

Imagine a 15 year old American not understanding a word of English. That's how ridiculous this guy's situation is.

No. It's not the same.

1.) language acquisition is easier when younger
2.) a 15 year old america will speak english every day and be surrounded by people who speak english every day in most situations. It's likely that this person spent most of his time speaking chinese with people who also could speak chinese to him. If you live in a community where you don't need to speak English to communicate, it's trivial to survive without it.

Thank you. My point exactly.
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Fam_Fam posted...

No. It's not the same.

1.) language acquisition is easier when younger

Somewhat. A 5 year old would know more than he has learnt in 15 years with a fully developed brain.

Fam_Fam posted...

2.) a 15 year old america will speak english every day and be surrounded by people who speak english every day in most situations. It's likely that this person spent most of his time speaking chinese with people who also could speak chinese to him. If you live in a community where you don't need to speak English to communicate, it's trivial to survive without

That's the problem. It's not acceptable to make an insular culture inside another country. It was a choice for them to block out their host country and it's ridiculous that it has been allowed.

Even on an individual level, he's always had the option to go out and meet people outside Chinatown and learn the host language, but he chose to segregate himself from the country and in the end, his decisions got him shot.
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SunWuKung420 posted...

More needless violence. Thanks failed war on human freedoms.

This. Its a plant that comes out of the ground for crying out loud. Its time the government stop murdering people or ruining lives over a ****ing plant.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Fam_Fam posted...

No. It's not the same.

1.) language acquisition is easier when younger

Somewhat. A 5 year old would know more than he has learnt in 15 years with a fully developed brain.

Fam_Fam posted...

2.) a 15 year old america will speak english every day and be surrounded by people who speak english every day in most situations. It's likely that this person spent most of his time speaking chinese with people who also could speak chinese to him. If you live in a community where you don't need to speak English to communicate, it's trivial to survive without

That's the problem. It's not acceptable to make an insular culture inside another country. It was a choice for them to block out their host country and it's ridiculous that it has been allowed.

Even on an individual level, he's always had the option to go out and meet people outside Chinatown and learn the host language, but he chose to segregate himself from the country and in the end, his decisions got him shot.

yeah he chose to. and? if he's surviving fine, then that's his life. he's making it more difficult in some ways, and easier in others. completely personal choice imo. Nothing acceptable or unacceptable about it.