Poll of the Day > Girl REFUSED to give her KIDNEY to GRANDPA cause he's KKK..and now he's DEAD!!!

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An American Girl has told of her how grandfather died because she REFUSED to give him her KIDNEY because he was a member of the KKK AND a CHILD MOLESTER!!

She wrote in the FB Group, I Dreamed Of Being This Petty and explained how her grandpa neededa kidney when she was a teen and she was the ONLY suitable match...

But she DECLINED to help him because he was inthe Klan and molested children.

Instead, she became an organ donor AFTER he died and is planning to donate her kidney to a stranger

She works as a nurse and was met with supportive comments from users who agreed she made the right decision as her name is blocked out by Dailymail for privacy reasons..

One person wrote "Your body, your choice"

Another siad "Even if your grandfather wasn't a total a**hole, i still don't think not giving an organ makes you an a**hole. That's a serious decision and you don't owe your organs to anyone"

Another said "If anyone that doesn't deserve a kidney, it was your grandfather" as others were more poignant and said "You're a badass" and "Amazing"

Do you think she made the right decision?

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Full Throttle posted...

No. blood should be thicker than water no matter politics

People always use only a small part of that saying for some reason, completely changing its meaning.
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Reminds me of that always sunny episode

Nichtcrawler X posted...

Full Throttle posted...

No. blood should be thicker than water no matter politics

People always use only a small part of that saying for some reason, completely changing its meaning.

The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb?
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I seriously doubt that story, but yes, you absolutely should be the only one who decides what happens with your organs.
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Full Throttle posted...

Do you think she made the right decision?

She made the decision that's right for her. If a family member ricks their life for you by giving you one of their organs you're lucky. You however are not entitled to it. Besides he's old and she's young so her life>his.

Full Throttle posted...

She wrote in the FB Group

Of course she did. She wanted to be noticed.
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Full Throttle posted...

An American Girl has told of her how grandfather died because she REFUSED to give him her KIDNEY because he was a member of the KKK AND a CHILD MOLESTER!!

...why is the fact that he was a KKK member more relevant than the fact he was a child molester?

Full Throttle posted...

Another said "If anyone that doesn't deserve a kidney, it was your grandfather" as others were more poignant and said "You're a badass" and "Amazing"

How is that being badass? And how is calling somebody badass poignant?

Full Throttle posted...

Do you think she made the right decision?

idk, it's still her grandfather.

Full Throttle posted...

Yes, her body, her choice
No. blood should be thicker than water no matter politics

"Her body, her choice" could be used to justify either answer. It doesn't really have anything to do with anything. And somebody being a member of the KKK isn't exactly politics, nor is the fact that he was supposedly a child molester. Granted, give that this is all based on self-reported claims from Facebook, any part of the story -- or the whole thing -- might be a complete fabrication.
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Broken_Zeus posted...

"Her body, her choice" could be used to justify either answer.

Indeed. So she's fine to say no.

Broken_Zeus posted...

idk, it's still her grandfather.

Being a family member doesn't automatically mean you're a good family member.
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Broken_Zeus posted...

idk, it's still her grandfather.

Yeah he is, but people don't have to basically be spare parts for someone just because they're related.

Being related doesn't mean that you have to like, or even care about, someone. You don't chose who you're related to, after all. Just being related to someone doesn't mean that you owe them anything by default.

She wouldnt be here without him so maybe being the spawn of the spawn of those things he allegedly was she should take a look at her own life.

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zebatov posted...

She wouldnt be here without him so maybe being the spawn of the spawn of those things he allegedly was she should take a look at her own life.

What? No.

That's not even how it works. At all.

zebatov posted...

She wouldnt be here without him so

So nothing.
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It's her choice to donate regardless but if her claims about her grandfather are true, then she definitely made the right call.
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Idk if he's an armchair kkk dude and saves kittens and helps homeless and she's an armchair sjw with pristine ideals who doesn't do shit who really is more valuable to society.

Any decent grandfather would've refused that option either way. Though the whole "live donor" thing just seems petty.

wwinterj25 posted...

Broken_Zeus posted...

idk, it's still her grandfather.

Being a family member doesn't automatically mean you're a good family member.

Sure, but he's still her grandfather.

ChaosAzeroth posted...

Yeah he is, but people don't have to basically be spare parts for someone just because they're related.

And here I thought that was the whole point of having kids and grandkids! =p

Oh well, eventually I'm sure we'll... shit, I guess I can't make that joke and handle the spoilers in a reasonable way. I was going to make a reference to The Island (2005)
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He's old and would've wasted her young kidney. Letting him die was the right choice.
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VeeVees posted...

He's old and would've wasted her young kidney.

I agree strongly with this sentiment, actually. There was a girl on a gameshow I was watching who was in her 20s who donated her kidney to some guy in his 60s and I could only think about what a tragic waste of an organ it was.

Link_of_time posted...

Any decent grandfather would've refused that option either way.

That really makes no sense.

VeeVees posted...

He's old and would've wasted her young kidney. Letting him die was the right choice.

KaptainKiro posted...

VeeVees posted...

He's old and would've wasted her young kidney.

I agree strongly with this sentiment, actually. There was a girl on a gameshow I was watching who was in her 20s who donated her kidney to some guy in his 60s and I could only think about what a tragic waste of an organ it was.

...giving a guy a few more decades to live is a waste? Try telling that to his wife and kids (and maybe grandkids).
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Zeus posted...

...giving a guy a few more decades to live is a waste? Try telling that to his wife and kids (and maybe grandkids).

First, a few decades is a pretty strong assumption, particularly when someone already has health problems to the point where they need a kidney transplant. Second, if you're willing to donate it, why not donate it to someone much younger who hasn't lived a full life?

Edit: Some quick research tells me the guy was actually 72 at the time of the transplant, lost both of his kidneys to cancer, and his wife was already deceased. I respect that it's her choice, it just seems wasteful.

KaptainKiro posted...

Zeus posted...

...giving a guy a few more decades to live is a waste? Try telling that to his wife and kids (and maybe grandkids).

First, a few decades is a pretty strong assumption, particularly when someone already has health problems to the point where they need a kidney transplant. Second, if you're willing to donate it, why not donate it to someone much younger who hasn't lived a full life?

Edit: Some quick research tells me the guy was actually 72 at the time of the transplant, lost both of his kidneys to cancer, and his wife was already deceased. I respect that it's her choice, it just seems wasteful.

If Zeus is against it then you know you made the right choice.
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Zeus posted...

Link_of_time posted...

Any decent grandfather would've refused that option either way.

That really makes no sense.

It's simple. What kind of grandfather would even entertain the idea of letting his teen granddaughter risk her life in major surgery. Surgical complications aside, consider the life-long effects on her health and well-being.

faramir77 posted...

I seriously doubt that story, but yes, you absolutely should be the only one who decides what happens with your organs.

Can 16 year olds even legally give their organs away?
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mooreandrew58 posted...

Nichtcrawler X posted...

Full Throttle posted...

No. blood should be thicker than water no matter politics

People always use only a small part of that saying for some reason, completely changing its meaning.

The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb?

Yep, which means exactly the opposite of how the saying is often misappropriated.
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adjl posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

Nichtcrawler X posted...

Full Throttle posted...

No. blood should be thicker than water no matter politics

People always use only a small part of that saying for some reason, completely changing its meaning.

The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb?

Yep, which means exactly the opposite of how the saying is often misappropriated.

The opposite happens to be true for a lot of people though so thats probably why it got changed. Its unfortunately very normal. Friends start their own families and are too busy the older you get. I take it as your immediate family though like a husband/wife kids and perhaps your parents.
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mooreandrew58 posted...

adjl posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

Nichtcrawler X posted...

Full Throttle posted...

No. blood should be thicker than water no matter politics

People always use only a small part of that saying for some reason, completely changing its meaning.

The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb?

Yep, which means exactly the opposite of how the saying is often misappropriated.

The opposite happens to be true for a lot of people though so thats probably why it got changed. Its unfortunately very normal. Friends start their own families and are too busy the older you get. I take it as your immediate family though like a husband/wife kids and perhaps your parents.

It's only ever brought up to try and guilt trip somebody into valuing their family over anyone else, despite having no actual weight beyond being a popular saying (well, and the fact that blood is literally thicker than water, but physics has little bearing on relationships). The fact that it actually means the opposite of that (that the relationships you cultivate are more meaningful than the ones you're born into) just makes using it even sillier.
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adjl posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

adjl posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

Nichtcrawler X posted...

Full Throttle posted...

No. blood should be thicker than water no matter politics

People always use only a small part of that saying for some reason, completely changing its meaning.

The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb?

Yep, which means exactly the opposite of how the saying is often misappropriated.

The opposite happens to be true for a lot of people though so thats probably why it got changed. Its unfortunately very normal. Friends start their own families and are too busy the older you get. I take it as your immediate family though like a husband/wife kids and perhaps your parents.

It's only ever brought up to try and guilt trip somebody into valuing their family over anyone else, despite having no actual weight beyond being a popular saying (well, and the fact that blood is literally thicker than water, but physics has little bearing on relationships). The fact that it actually means the opposite of that (that the relationships you cultivate are more meaningful than the ones you're born into) just makes using it even sillier.

Everyone is different. Its just I think its easier to cultivate said relationships with family as usually you have no choice but to associate with them.

Thats what I was getting at. Other wise I agree. Outside my immediate family I have nothing to do with the rest really. I dont even know most of my cousins. Sadly my only friend though lives half way across the country so outside the ocassional phone call we don't spend any time around each other. And thr older I get the less i want to make new friends.
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He deserved to die.
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KaptainKiro posted...

Zeus posted...

...giving a guy a few more decades to live is a waste? Try telling that to his wife and kids (and maybe grandkids).

First, a few decades is a pretty strong assumption, particularly when someone already has health problems to the point where they need a kidney transplant. Second, if you're willing to donate it, why not donate it to someone much younger who hasn't lived a full life?

Well, for starters, young people are already higher up the donor list thanks to attitudes like yours so they're more likely to be covered.

Second, it's a matter of personal circumstances. Older people are more likely to have families who rely on them vs younger people who are often single. When you prioritize a 20 y/o over a 50 y/o, that 50 y/o's kids suffer as well. So trying to argue on the basis of age as a utilitarian factor is pretty flawed.

VeeVees posted...

If Zeus is against it then you know you made the right choice.

I'm against slavery. I guess that means VeeVees thinks slavery is the right choice!

Granted, VeeVees has also proposed giving the death penalty to pretty much anybody accused of a crime so... maybe he shouldn't be taken that seriously.

Link_of_time posted...

Zeus posted...

Link_of_time posted...

Any decent grandfather would've refused that option either way.

That really makes no sense.

It's simple. What kind of grandfather would even entertain the idea of letting his teen granddaughter risk her life in major surgery. Surgical complications aside, consider the life-long effects on her health and well-being.

It's not really risking her life to any realistic degree and people only need one kidney to survive. As for her health impact, pretty much anything that might affect her kidneys would likely impact both so... you're not really saving anything there either.

PK_Spam posted...

Can 16 year olds even legally give their organs away?

I believe they need a guardian's consent, but that shouldn't be hard to get.
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