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Monferno_AQW 09/10/19 5:23:46 AM #101:	cjsdowg posted... I give up. At this point, you're just trolling. I stand by all my points. I've explained it plainly every time, but you still either ignore it or are arguing for the hell of it. Again, trolling at this point. Rey is not a Mary Sue. Nothing she has done is as impressive as what others have done before her. And it has been explained how she does the things she does. We're not convincing each other. I'm not wasting my time any further on this. --- I only play in Ubers and Anything Goes Don't complain if you lose when using OU or lower tier pokemon. You handicapped yourself. Your fault. <cite>Monferno_AQW posted [p:927230032] in Disney Sta... [t:77996684]...</cite> <quote>cjsdowg posted...</cite> I give up. At this point, you're just trolling. I stand by all my points. I've explained it plainly every time, but you still either ignore it or are arguing for the hell of it. Again, trolling at this point. Rey is not a Mary Sue. Nothing she has done is as impressive as what others have done before her. And it has been explained how she does the things she does. We're not convincing each other. I'm not wasting my time any further on this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
coh 09/10/19 7:29:36 AM #102:	Rey is just a completely uninteresting character, mary sue or not. <cite>coh posted [p:927231689] in Disney Sta... [t:77996684]...</cite> <quote>Rey is just a completely uninteresting character, mary sue or not. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 09/10/19 9:48:11 AM #103:	MrMallard posted... The Force Awakens was an entertaining movie that captured the classic feeling of Star Wars after all of the crazy back-flipping Prequel stuff. I don't get why the backlash is as intense for this movie as it is. I liked it too. I think the backlash is mostly from the quantity of recycled ideas, which honestly, was a clever setup for the trilogy. --- 53 LIII 0b110101 p16 0x35 <cite>DevsBro posted [p:927234777] in Disney Sta... [t:77996684]...</cite> <quote>MrMallard posted...</cite> <quote>The Force Awakens was an entertaining movie that captured the classic feeling of Star Wars after all of the crazy back-flipping Prequel stuff. I don't get why the backlash is as intense for this movie as it is.</quote> I liked it too. I think the backlash is mostly from the quantity of recycled ideas, which honestly, was a clever setup for the trilogy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoGCyN 09/10/19 10:06:35 AM #104:	Has this been passed around yet? https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/star-wars-rise-skywalker-set-major-reshoots-good/ Also, no. RoS will not save this trainwreck. The characters are dull as hell and that's all they really needed for it to still be workable (good characters), even with the destroyed mythology set by TLJ. --- --- <cite>DoGCyN posted [p:927235276] in Disney Sta... [t:77996684]...</cite> <quote>Has this been passed around yet? https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/star-wars-rise-skywalker-set-major-reshoots-good/ Also, no. RoS will not save this trainwreck. The characters are dull as hell and that's all they really needed for it to still be workable (good characters), even with the destroyed mythology set by TLJ.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pogo_rabid 09/10/19 10:07:59 AM #105:	I saw some of the leaks from the same guy who accurately leaked the previous movie. No spoils, but lets just say i'm hoping these leaks aren't true. Seems like a dumpster fire. --- Ryzen 3800x @ 4.3, 32 gig @ 4000, 1070ti, 970pro, Asus Strix x570-E <cite>pogo_rabid posted [p:927235320] in Disney Sta... [t:77996684]...</cite> <quote>I saw some of the leaks from the same guy who accurately leaked the previous movie. No spoils, but lets just say i'm hoping these leaks aren't true. Seems like a dumpster fire.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 09/10/19 10:19:30 AM #106:	DoGCyN posted... Has this been passed around yet? https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/star-wars-rise-skywalker-set-major-reshoots-good/ Also, no. RoS will not save this trainwreck. The characters are dull as hell and that's all they really needed for it to still be workable (good characters), even with the destroyed mythology set by TLJ. There's always Kylo Ren. If we just quietly ignore the fact that in TLJ it ends with him just being dark side, his conflict is the most interesting thread that could be pulled forward in this new trilogy. I would actually prefer that, when we look back, we say that this was really the story of kylo and not Rey. He's the one that ties back to the original trilogy. He's the one that actually has conflict and emotional resonance. And he's the one that we have seen lose the most outside of the Rebellion as an abstract concept. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:927235663] in Disney Sta... [t:77996684]...</cite> <quote>DoGCyN posted...</cite> <quote>Has this been passed around yet? https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/star-wars-rise-skywalker-set-major-reshoots-good/ Also, no. RoS will not save this trainwreck. The characters are dull as hell and that's all they really needed for it to still be workable (good characters), even with the destroyed mythology set by TLJ.</quote> There's always Kylo Ren. If we just quietly ignore the fact that in TLJ it ends with him just being dark side, his conflict is the most interesting thread that could be pulled forward in this new trilogy. I would actually prefer that, when we look back, we say that this was really the story of kylo and not Rey. He's the one that ties back to the original trilogy. He's the one that actually has conflict and emotional resonance. And he's the one that we have seen lose the most outside of the Rebellion as an abstract concept.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoGCyN 09/10/19 10:20:58 AM #107:	s0nicfan posted... DoGCyN posted... Has this been passed around yet? https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/star-wars-rise-skywalker-set-major-reshoots-good/ Also, no. RoS will not save this trainwreck. The characters are dull as hell and that's all they really needed for it to still be workable (good characters), even with the destroyed mythology set by TLJ. There's always Kylo Ren. If we just quietly ignore the fact that in TLJ it ends with him just being dark side, his conflict is the most interesting thread that could be pulled forward in this new trilogy. I would actually prefer that, when we look back, we say that this was really the story of kylo and not Rey. He's the one that ties back to the original trilogy. He's the one that actually has conflict and emotional resonance. And he's the one that we have seen lose the most outside of the Rebellion as an abstract concept. Fair point. I guess we'll see. --- --- <cite>DoGCyN posted [p:927235715] in Disney Sta... [t:77996684]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>DoGCyN posted...</cite> <quote>Has this been passed around yet? https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/star-wars-rise-skywalker-set-major-reshoots-good/ Also, no. RoS will not save this trainwreck. The characters are dull as hell and that's all they really needed for it to still be workable (good characters), even with the destroyed mythology set by TLJ.</quote> There's always Kylo Ren. If we just quietly ignore the fact that in TLJ it ends with him just being dark side, his conflict is the most interesting thread that could be pulled forward in this new trilogy. I would actually prefer that, when we look back, we say that this was really the story of kylo and not Rey. He's the one that ties back to the original trilogy. He's the one that actually has conflict and emotional resonance. And he's the one that we have seen lose the most outside of the Rebellion as an abstract concept.</quote> Fair point. I guess we'll see.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 09/10/19 10:36:37 AM #108:	DoGCyN posted... destroyed mythology I mean, maybe nobody ever thought to do a lightspeed ram/nobody wanted to die/etc. I don't get why this is a challenge to so many people's core values. --- 53 LIII 0b110101 p16 0x35 <cite>DevsBro posted [p:927236171] in Disney Sta... [t:77996684]...</cite> <quote>DoGCyN posted...</cite> <quote>destroyed mythology</quote> I mean, maybe nobody ever thought to do a lightspeed ram/nobody wanted to die/etc. I don't get why this is a challenge to so many people's core values.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rexcrk 09/10/19 10:37:16 AM #109:	DevsBro posted... DoGCyN posted... destroyed mythology I mean, maybe nobody ever thought to do a lightspeed ram/nobody wanted to die/etc. I don't get why this is a challenge to so many people's core values. They gotta complain about something. \_()_/ --- These pretzels are making me thirsty! <cite>rexcrk posted [p:927236189] in Disney Sta... [t:77996684]...</cite> <quote>DevsBro posted...</cite> <quote>DoGCyN posted...</cite> <quote>destroyed mythology</quote> I mean, maybe nobody ever thought to do a lightspeed ram/nobody wanted to die/etc. I don't get why this is a challenge to so many people's core values.</quote> They gotta complain about something. \_()_/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 09/10/19 10:54:36 AM #110:	DoGCyN posted... destroyed mythology Lol what --- I wish we all waved <cite>ledbowman posted [p:927236751] in Disney Sta... [t:77996684]...</cite> <quote>DoGCyN posted...</cite> <quote>destroyed mythology</quote> Lol what</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 09/10/19 11:01:44 AM #111:	DevsBro posted... I mean, maybe nobody ever thought to do a lightspeed ram/nobody wanted to die/etc. You could literally use a droid instead. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:927237002] in Disney Sta... [t:77996684]...</cite> <quote>DevsBro posted...</cite> <quote>I mean, maybe nobody ever thought to do a lightspeed ram/nobody wanted to die/etc. </quote> You could literally use a droid instead.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IShall_Run_Amok 09/10/19 11:18:22 AM #112:	I thought of light speed ramming when I was eight years old. Why did it take Star Wars 40 years to think of it? --- My most adored of the five ocular castigations. <cite>IShall_Run_Amok posted [p:927237615] in Disney Sta... [t:77996684]...</cite> <quote>I thought of light speed ramming when I was eight years old. Why did it take Star Wars 40 years to think of it? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 09/10/19 11:30:09 AM #113:	Lorenzo_2003 posted... DevsBro posted... I mean, maybe nobody ever thought to do a lightspeed ram/nobody wanted to die/etc. You could literally use a droid instead. Why though? It's a huge waste of resources. The rebellion doesn't have ships to waste on that, they need to preserve everything they can. The empire doesn't need to, if they can catch a ship out they can take care of it without those tactics. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:927238102] in Disney Sta... [t:77996684]...</cite> <quote>Lorenzo_2003 posted...</cite> <quote>DevsBro posted...</cite> <quote>I mean, maybe nobody ever thought to do a lightspeed ram/nobody wanted to die/etc. </quote> You could literally use a droid instead.</quote> Why though? It's a huge waste of resources. The rebellion doesn't have ships to waste on that, they need to preserve everything they can. The empire doesn't need to, if they can catch a ship out they can take care of it without those tactics.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iPhone_7 09/10/19 11:36:31 AM #114:	The Last Jedi ruined the mythology of Star Wars how? Because Yoda used lightning? Meanwhile the prequels took a s* on the magic of Star Wars by saying the force is able to be used because of microscopic bacteria. Yoda using a lightning bolt wasnt the problem, him acting goofy was the problem. He was in hiding when he did that in Empire Strikes Back as a fake persona until Luke said he was sent by Obi-Wan to be trained. This is the kind of stuff people should take issue with. --- Sig User Logic https://imgur.com/lA5fm7w <cite>iPhone_7 posted [p:927238343] in Disney Sta... [t:77996684]...</cite> <quote>The Last Jedi ruined the mythology of Star Wars how? Because Yoda used lightning? Meanwhile the prequels took a s* on the magic of Star Wars by saying the force is able to be used because of microscopic bacteria. Yoda using a lightning bolt wasnt the problem, him acting goofy was the problem. He was in hiding when he did that in Empire Strikes Back as a fake persona until Luke said he was sent by Obi-Wan to be trained. This is the kind of stuff people should take issue with.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 09/10/19 11:53:49 AM #115:	Lorenzo_2003 posted... DevsBro posted... I mean, maybe nobody ever thought to do a lightspeed ram/nobody wanted to die/etc. You could literally use a droid instead. Maybe they don't want to die either? You really think C-3PO is gonna kamikaze? Never mimd that this still leaves the possibility that nobody ever thought of it. --- 53 LIII 0b110101 p16 0x35 <cite>DevsBro posted [p:927238983] in Disney Sta... [t:77996684]...</cite> <quote>Lorenzo_2003 posted...</cite> <quote>DevsBro posted...</cite> <quote>I mean, maybe nobody ever thought to do a lightspeed ram/nobody wanted to die/etc. </quote> You could literally use a droid instead.</quote> Maybe they don't want to die either? You really think C-3PO is gonna kamikaze? Never mimd that this still leaves the possibility that nobody ever thought of it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 09/10/19 11:54:12 AM #116:	iPhone_7 posted... Yoda using a lightning bolt wasnt the problem, him acting goofy was the problem. He was in hiding when he did that in Empire Strikes Back as a fake persona until Luke said he was sent by Obi-Wan to be trained. How is it a problem. Why do people want to keep stuff in a box all the time --- I wish we all waved <cite>ledbowman posted [p:927238999] in Disney Sta... [t:77996684]...</cite> <quote>iPhone_7 posted...</cite> <quote>Yoda using a lightning bolt wasnt the problem, him acting goofy was the problem. He was in hiding when he did that in Empire Strikes Back as a fake persona until Luke said he was sent by Obi-Wan to be trained.</quote> How is it a problem. Why do people want to keep stuff in a box all the time</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 09/10/19 11:54:47 AM #117:	IShall_Run_Amok posted... I thought of light speed ramming when I was eight years old. Why did it take Star Wars 40 years to think of it? Because George Lucas is awful. Now that he's gone, they finally did it! --- 53 LIII 0b110101 p16 0x35 <cite>DevsBro posted [p:927239035] in Disney Sta... [t:77996684]...</cite> <quote>IShall_Run_Amok posted...</cite> <quote>I thought of light speed ramming when I was eight years old. Why did it take Star Wars 40 years to think of it? </quote> Because George Lucas is awful. Now that he's gone, they finally did it!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 09/10/19 11:59:30 AM #118:	"Yoda doesn't actually have a personality" is an odd take. --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:927239242] in Disney Sta... [t:77996684]...</cite> <quote>"Yoda doesn't actually have a personality" is an odd take.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IShall_Run_Amok 09/10/19 12:08:04 PM #119:	DevsBro posted... Because George Lucas is awful. Now that he's gone, they finally did it! Maybe Rey will land on Bunkbed Planet in the next movie, while Kylo Ren pits his Force powers against the unruly scum of Underwear Drawer Cantina. By the way, I didn't actually have Star Wars toys, so Obi Wan Kenobi was inevitably a G.I. Joe in a makeshift robe and Darth Vader was always a Shredder that I had magic marker'd. And the space ships were always those Die-Cast military vehicles (anyone remember those?) - light speed ramming was achieved by going "SHROOOOO" and then throwing them as hard as I could at the floor. --- My most adored of the five ocular castigations. <cite>IShall_Run_Amok posted [p:927239593] in Disney Sta... [t:77996684]...</cite> <quote>DevsBro posted... </cite> <quote>Because George Lucas is awful. Now that he's gone, they finally did it!</quote>Maybe Rey will land on Bunkbed Planet in the next movie, while Kylo Ren pits his Force powers against the unruly scum of Underwear Drawer Cantina. By the way, I didn't actually have Star Wars toys, so Obi Wan Kenobi was inevitably a G.I. Joe in a makeshift robe and Darth Vader was always a Shredder that I had magic marker'd. And the space ships were always those Die-Cast military vehicles (anyone remember those?) - light speed ramming was achieved by going "SHROOOOO" and then throwing them as hard as I could at the floor. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 09/10/19 12:17:15 PM #120:	CyricZ posted... "Yoda doesn't actually have a personality" is an odd take. Assuming this is at me, I'd say "Yoda can only have one mood" is odd --- I wish we all waved <cite>ledbowman posted [p:927240005] in Disney Sta... [t:77996684]...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted...</cite> <quote>"Yoda doesn't actually have a personality" is an odd take.</quote> Assuming this is at me, I'd say "Yoda can only have one mood" is odd</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 09/10/19 12:58:25 PM #121:	ledbowman posted... CyricZ posted... "Yoda doesn't actually have a personality" is an odd take. Assuming this is at me, I'd say "Yoda can only have one mood" is odd It was at iphone --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:927241783] in Disney Sta... [t:77996684]...</cite> <quote>ledbowman posted...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted...</cite> <quote>"Yoda doesn't actually have a personality" is an odd take.</quote> Assuming this is at me, I'd say "Yoda can only have one mood" is odd</quote> It was at iphone</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 09/10/19 1:15:57 PM #122:	CyricZ posted... ledbowman posted... CyricZ posted... "Yoda doesn't actually have a personality" is an odd take. Assuming this is at me, I'd say "Yoda can only have one mood" is odd It was at iphone Oh sorry --- I wish we all waved <cite>ledbowman posted [p:927242508] in Disney Sta... [t:77996684]...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted...</cite> <quote>ledbowman posted...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted...</cite> <quote>"Yoda doesn't actually have a personality" is an odd take.</quote> Assuming this is at me, I'd say "Yoda can only have one mood" is odd</quote> It was at iphone</quote> Oh sorry</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoGCyN 09/10/19 1:51:12 PM #123:	iPhone_7 posted... The Last Jedi ruined the mythology of Star Wars how? Because Yoda used lightning? Meanwhile the prequels took a s* on the magic of Star Wars by saying the force is able to be used because of microscopic bacteria. Yoda using a lightning bolt wasnt the problem, him acting goofy was the problem. He was in hiding when he did that in Empire Strikes Back as a fake persona until Luke said he was sent by Obi-Wan to be trained. This is the kind of stuff people should take issue with. I didn't like the prequels either. They were still miles better than TLJ will ever be --- --- <cite>DoGCyN posted [p:927243958] in Disney Sta... [t:77996684]...</cite> <quote>iPhone_7 posted...</cite> <quote>The Last Jedi ruined the mythology of Star Wars how? Because Yoda used lightning? Meanwhile the prequels took a s* on the magic of Star Wars by saying the force is able to be used because of microscopic bacteria. Yoda using a lightning bolt wasnt the problem, him acting goofy was the problem. He was in hiding when he did that in Empire Strikes Back as a fake persona until Luke said he was sent by Obi-Wan to be trained. This is the kind of stuff people should take issue with.</quote> I didn't like the prequels either. They were still miles better than TLJ will ever be</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
stoltenberg11 09/10/19 8:05:31 PM #124:	OctilIery posted... Lorenzo_2003 posted... DevsBro posted... I mean, maybe nobody ever thought to do a lightspeed ram/nobody wanted to die/etc. You could literally use a droid instead. Why though? It's a huge waste of resources. The rebellion doesn't have ships to waste on that, they need to preserve everything they can. The empire doesn't need to, if they can catch a ship out they can take care of it without those tactics. There have been plenty of wars where it would have been a viable tactic. There's also plenty of ways to make it an even better tactic. Again, it's beyond stupid that this is the first time it's ever been employed in the SW universes recorded history. --- You're such a boring characterless entity. Try getting laid once in a while and maybe you'll have friends and find out what a "joke" is. - derrate <cite>stoltenberg11 posted [p:927259514] in Disney Sta... [t:77996684]...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>Lorenzo_2003 posted...</cite> <quote>DevsBro posted...</cite> <quote>I mean, maybe nobody ever thought to do a lightspeed ram/nobody wanted to die/etc. </quote> You could literally use a droid instead.</quote> Why though? It's a huge waste of resources. The rebellion doesn't have ships to waste on that, they need to preserve everything they can. The empire doesn't need to, if they can catch a ship out they can take care of it without those tactics.</quote> There have been plenty of wars where it would have been a viable tactic. There's also plenty of ways to make it an even better tactic. Again, it's beyond stupid that this is the first time it's ever been employed in the SW universes recorded history.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iPhone_7 09/10/19 8:21:20 PM #125:	CyricZ posted... "Yoda doesn't actually have a personality" is an odd take. That would be an odd take if anybody actually said that. --- Sig User Logic https://imgur.com/lA5fm7w <cite>iPhone_7 posted [p:927260133] in Disney Sta... [t:77996684]...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted...</cite> <quote>"Yoda doesn't actually have a personality" is an odd take.</quote> That would be an odd take if anybody actually said that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
action52 09/11/19 12:43:50 AM #126:	stoltenberg11 posted... OctilIery posted... Lorenzo_2003 posted... DevsBro posted... I mean, maybe nobody ever thought to do a lightspeed ram/nobody wanted to die/etc. You could literally use a droid instead. Why though? It's a huge waste of resources. The rebellion doesn't have ships to waste on that, they need to preserve everything they can. The empire doesn't need to, if they can catch a ship out they can take care of it without those tactics. There have been plenty of wars where it would have been a viable tactic. There's also plenty of ways to make it an even better tactic. Again, it's beyond stupid that this is the first time it's ever been employed in the SW universes recorded history. It doesn't have to be the first time ever. More likely is that it's rarely done because it's extremely difficult to pull off and has a poor cost to benefit ratio. First of all, the calculations needed are extremely precise. Holdo just happened to be in just the right position where the ship she wanted to hit was very large, directly in back of her, and moving the exact same direction. So all she had to do is rotate and she was set up for this miracle shot where her ship penetrated then the debris fanned out at just the right time to hit a small fleet of star destroyers that were directly behind, in just the right formation. It's basically the equivalent of hitting one airplane, having it blow up, and then the debris from the explosion takes out several more planes that were directly behind it. Amazing, to be sure, but not something you could duplicate on a regular basis. Remember, you have to set the shot up with extremely precise calculations. You have to fly exactly the right distance, at exactly the right angle, and go into hyperspace straight as you are hitting the other target. When you're dealing with other ships that aren't so massive, and are likely doing evasive maneuvers, it becomes extremely difficult to actually hit. And every time you do it, you're blowing up a ship with a hyperdrive. Hyperdrives have been established as the most expensive and difficult parts of a ship to acquire--that's why they had so much trouble getting it in TPM. And if you're using a big ship, which you would need to because the only way this even has a hope of being useful is if you use one massive ship against another massive ship, that's going to get exponentially more expensive because they have to be able to pull all that mass into hyperspace. And the thing is, when you take its destructive power compared to mass, it's not even that great. I mean the damage it did to Snoke's ship was less than that one bomber did to the dreadnaught at the beginning of the movie, and the ship Holdo was piloting was like 100,000 times as big! Or compare it to the kinds of explosions those things in Solo did! And of course Luke was able to destroy the Death Star with two well placed proton torpedos. Again, I think people overestimate its power because it's hard to get a good sense of the sizes involved when everything's in space. But when you scale it down to other ships, you can see it's not as amazing as it seems at first. For example if you'd tried that with X-Wings versus the original Death Star, that would have done less damage than trying to destroy a watermelon with toothpicks. --- i am truley sorry for your lots <cite>action52 posted [p:927270576] in Disney Sta... [t:77996684]...</cite> <quote>stoltenberg11 posted...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>Lorenzo_2003 posted...</cite> <quote>DevsBro posted...</cite> <quote>I mean, maybe nobody ever thought to do a lightspeed ram/nobody wanted to die/etc. </quote> You could literally use a droid instead.</quote> Why though? It's a huge waste of resources. The rebellion doesn't have ships to waste on that, they need to preserve everything they can. The empire doesn't need to, if they can catch a ship out they can take care of it without those tactics.</quote> There have been plenty of wars where it would have been a viable tactic. There's also plenty of ways to make it an even better tactic. Again, it's beyond stupid that this is the first time it's ever been employed in the SW universes recorded history.</quote> It doesn't have to be the first time ever. More likely is that it's rarely done because it's extremely difficult to pull off and has a poor cost to benefit ratio. First of all, the calculations needed are extremely precise. Holdo just happened to be in just the right position where the ship she wanted to hit was very large, directly in back of her, and moving the exact same direction. So all she had to do is rotate and she was set up for this miracle shot where her ship penetrated then the debris fanned out at just the right time to hit a small fleet of star destroyers that were directly behind, in just the right formation. It's basically the equivalent of hitting one airplane, having it blow up, and then the debris from the explosion takes out several more planes that were directly behind it. Amazing, to be sure, but not something you could duplicate on a regular basis. Remember, you have to set the shot up with extremely precise calculations. You have to fly exactly the right distance, at exactly the right angle, and go into hyperspace straight as you are hitting the other target. When you're dealing with other ships that aren't so massive, and are likely doing evasive maneuvers, it becomes extremely difficult to actually hit. And every time you do it, you're blowing up a ship with a hyperdrive. Hyperdrives have been established as the most expensive and difficult parts of a ship to acquire--that's why they had so much trouble getting it in TPM. And if you're using a big ship, which you would need to because the only way this even has a hope of being useful is if you use one massive ship against another massive ship, that's going to get exponentially more expensive because they have to be able to pull all that mass into hyperspace. And the thing is, when you take its destructive power compared to mass, it's not even that great. I mean the damage it did to Snoke's ship was less than that one bomber did to the dreadnaught at the beginning of the movie, and the ship Holdo was piloting was like 100,000 times as big! Or compare it to the kinds of explosions those things in Solo did! And of course Luke was able to destroy the Death Star with two well placed proton torpedos. Again, I think people overestimate its power because it's hard to get a good sense of the sizes involved when everything's in space. But when you scale it down to other ships, you can see it's not as amazing as it seems at first. For example if you'd tried that with X-Wings versus the original Death Star, that would have done less damage than trying to destroy a watermelon with toothpicks.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phoenixeater 09/13/19 6:50:35 AM #127:	TLJ killed the franchise for me. I don't give a crap about the next film as of now. Disney's biggest was swapping out one director for another in the middle of a trilogy only said new director to ruined everything the first film set up in the sequel. What the fuck were they thinking? --- 4/21/2016: R.I.P. Prince and Chyna 6/18/2018: R.I.P. Aretha Franklin <cite>Phoenixeater posted [p:927374241] in Disney Sta... [t:77996684]...</cite> <quote>TLJ killed the franchise for me. I don't give a crap about the next film as of now. Disney's biggest was swapping out one director for another in the middle of a trilogy only said new director to ruined everything the first film set up in the sequel. What the fuck were they thinking?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cobra1010 09/13/19 6:54:34 AM #129:	Phoenixeater posted... TLJ killed the franchise for me. I don't give a crap about the next film as of now. Disney's biggest was swapping out one director for another in the middle of a trilogy only said new director to ruined everything the first film set up in the sequel. What the fuck were they thinking? Do you think rian and jj abrams secretly are trying to compete for dominance thus sabotaging each others plot points? I mean, rian now has a trilogy to himself. --- GG Riot - https://imgur.com/PinGPhR https://imgur.com/Hs8Y1vQ <cite>Cobra1010 posted [p:927374294] in Disney Sta... [t:77996684]...</cite> <quote>Phoenixeater posted...</cite> <quote>TLJ killed the franchise for me. I don't give a crap about the next film as of now. Disney's biggest was swapping out one director for another in the middle of a trilogy only said new director to ruined everything the first film set up in the sequel. What the fuck were they thinking?</quote> Do you think rian and jj abrams secretly are trying to compete for dominance thus sabotaging each others plot points? I mean, rian now has a trilogy to himself.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoGCyN 09/13/19 9:20:03 AM #130:	Cobra1010 posted... rian now has a trilogy to himself. Nah he has a single film in the star wars genre which most people hate him for. Well not hate him but hate his directing. --- --- <cite>DoGCyN posted [p:927377591] in Disney Sta... [t:77996684]...</cite> <quote>Cobra1010 posted...</cite> <quote>rian now has a trilogy to himself.</quote> Nah he has a single film in the star wars genre which most people hate him for. Well not hate him but hate his directing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Monferno_AQW 09/13/19 4:36:11 PM #131:	DoGCyN posted... Cobra1010 posted... rian now has a trilogy to himself. Nah he has a single film in the star wars genre which most people hate him for. Well not hate him but hate his directing. And he still has his trilogy. It hasn't been canceled. --- I only play in Ubers and Anything Goes Don't complain if you lose when using OU or lower tier pokemon. You handicapped yourself. Your fault. <cite>Monferno_AQW posted [p:927395660] in Disney Sta... [t:77996684]...</cite> <quote>DoGCyN posted...</cite> <quote>Cobra1010 posted...</cite> <quote>rian now has a trilogy to himself.</quote> Nah he has a single film in the star wars genre which most people hate him for. Well not hate him but hate his directing.</quote> And he still has his trilogy. It hasn't been canceled.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 09/13/19 11:07:57 PM #132:	Monferno_AQW posted... DoGCyN posted... Cobra1010 posted... rian now has a trilogy to himself. Nah he has a single film in the star wars genre which most people hate him for. Well not hate him but hate his directing. And he still has his trilogy. It hasn't been canceled. Youre right in that theres been no official word, but there have been rumors. Same with D&Ds trilogy after GoT season 8. --- "some guys get bored after having sex with a girl....i get bored halfway through having sex with a girl" - No_U_L7 https://i.imgtc.ws/uXfxf6P.png <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:927410096] in Disney Sta... [t:77996684]...</cite> <quote>Monferno_AQW posted...</cite> <quote>DoGCyN posted...</cite> <quote>Cobra1010 posted...</cite> <quote>rian now has a trilogy to himself.</quote> Nah he has a single film in the star wars genre which most people hate him for. Well not hate him but hate his directing.</quote> And he still has his trilogy. It hasn't been canceled.</quote> Youre right in that theres been no official word, but there have been rumors. Same with D&Ds trilogy after GoT season 8.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bobaban 09/13/19 11:34:45 PM #133:	TLJ was a terrible movie. It had some good plots with Kylo, Rey and Luke. But Rose was even worse than Jar Jar and Finn got fucked in the film being part of this garbage side plot. Also chasing the rebels through space? Wtf, call in more imperials to hyper speed right in front of them lol. <cite>bobaban posted [p:927410945] in Disney Sta... [t:77996684]...</cite> <quote>TLJ was a terrible movie. It had some good plots with Kylo, Rey and Luke. But Rose was even worse than Jar Jar and Finn got fucked in the film being part of this garbage side plot. Also chasing the rebels through space? Wtf, call in more imperials to hyper speed right in front of them lol. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ASithLord7 09/14/19 12:04:50 AM #134:	Shablagoo posted... Monferno_AQW posted... DoGCyN posted... Cobra1010 posted... rian now has a trilogy to himself. Nah he has a single film in the star wars genre which most people hate him for. Well not hate him but hate his directing. And he still has his trilogy. It hasn't been canceled. Youre right in that theres been no official word, but there have been rumors. Same with D&Ds trilogy after GoT season 8. Uhh hes been actively talking about it as recently as like 3 weeks ago --- https://imgur.com/VZeCB RebelElite791 <cite>ASithLord7 posted [p:927411878] in Disney Sta... [t:77996684]...</cite> <quote>Shablagoo posted...</cite> <quote>Monferno_AQW posted...</cite> <quote>DoGCyN posted...</cite> <quote>Cobra1010 posted...</cite> <quote>rian now has a trilogy to himself.</quote> Nah he has a single film in the star wars genre which most people hate him for. Well not hate him but hate his directing.</quote> And he still has his trilogy. It hasn't been canceled.</quote> Youre right in that theres been no official word, but there have been rumors. Same with D&Ds trilogy after GoT season 8.</quote> Uhh hes been actively talking about it as recently as like 3 weeks ago</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 09/14/19 12:28:21 AM #135:	Yeah but there are rumors just as recently --- "some guys get bored after having sex with a girl....i get bored halfway through having sex with a girl" - No_U_L7 https://i.imgtc.ws/uXfxf6P.png <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:927412628] in Disney Sta... [t:77996684]...</cite> <quote>Yeah but there are rumors just as recently</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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