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Malfunction 09/10/19 7:15:22 PM #51:	Believe it or not, some people's lives aren't ran by politics. Going to go with a 'no' on this one <cite>Malfunction posted [p:927257460] in Kotaku is ... [t:78002849]...</cite> <quote><quote>Believe it or not, some people's lives aren't ran by politics. </quote> Going to go with a 'no' on this one</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 09/10/19 7:15:32 PM #52:	hockeybub89 posted... Darmik posted... Like if you're criticizing Detroit Become Human for this and not games like Greedfall which apparently are doing the same thing you're really not being consistent. Are we supposed to talk or critique these things or not? I don't think they are doing the same thing. David Cage is also someone I don't believe. I also think pretty much all of past history was shit. I don't think that means anything set in the past needs to actively criticize the past. I'm not saying political messages are bad. I'm saying that not every game has to be politically conscious. I absolutely think they can do imperialism in a vacuum. My personal views and political leanings disagree with a lot of the things I do in video games. Everything is political if you think about it, but we don't need to always talk about it with regards to fiction. Why don't you think they're doing the same thing and why is it okay to criticize a David Cage game but not a Spider RPG? It sounds more like you're asking people to not criticize games you like. If you weren't interested in talking about politics for this game you didn't need to read the article and you most certainly did not need to make this topic. If you think this article is too extreme for you don't ever browse Waypoint. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:927257468] in Kotaku is ... [t:78002849]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Like if you're criticizing Detroit Become Human for this and not games like Greedfall which apparently are doing the same thing you're really not being consistent. Are we supposed to talk or critique these things or not?</quote> I don't think they are doing the same thing. David Cage is also someone I don't believe. I also think pretty much all of past history was shit. I don't think that means anything set in the past needs to actively criticize the past. I'm not saying political messages are bad. I'm saying that not every game has to be politically conscious. I absolutely think they can do imperialism in a vacuum. My personal views and political leanings disagree with a lot of the things I do in video games. Everything is political if you think about it, but we don't need to always talk about it with regards to fiction.</quote> Why don't you think they're doing the same thing and why is it okay to criticize a David Cage game but not a Spider RPG? It sounds more like you're asking people to not criticize games you like. If you weren't interested in talking about politics for this game you didn't need to read the article and you most certainly did not need to make this topic. If you think this article is too extreme for you don't ever browse Waypoint.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadBankerDream 09/10/19 7:16:54 PM #53:	hockeybub89 posted... Darmik posted... Like if you're criticizing Detroit Become Human for this and not games like Greedfall which apparently are doing the same thing you're really not being consistent. Are we supposed to talk or critique these things or not? I don't think they are doing the same thing. David Cage is also someone I don't believe. I also think pretty much all of past history was shit. I don't think that means anything set in the past needs to actively criticize the past. I'm not saying political messages are bad. I'm saying that not every game has to be politically conscious. I absolutely think they can do imperialism in a vacuum. My personal views and political leanings disagree with a lot of the things I do in video games. Everything is political if you think about it, but we don't need to always talk about it with regards to fiction. But someone at Kotaku thought this was a time to make mention of it and that annoyed you enough to make this topic rather than just realize that not everyone shares your lack of interest in talking about politics, in particular regarding this game, but I assume in general. My impression is that you went to Kotaku to find something to shit your pants about and this was the best you could come up with and you're nonsensically trying to make a big deal (or rather, any deal) out of it. --- "Your mother was a broken down tub of junk with more gentlemen callers than the operator." <cite>DeadBankerDream posted [p:927257530] in Kotaku is ... [t:78002849]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Like if you're criticizing Detroit Become Human for this and not games like Greedfall which apparently are doing the same thing you're really not being consistent. Are we supposed to talk or critique these things or not?</quote> I don't think they are doing the same thing. David Cage is also someone I don't believe. I also think pretty much all of past history was shit. I don't think that means anything set in the past needs to actively criticize the past. I'm not saying political messages are bad. I'm saying that not every game has to be politically conscious. I absolutely think they can do imperialism in a vacuum. My personal views and political leanings disagree with a lot of the things I do in video games. Everything is political if you think about it, but we don't need to always talk about it with regards to fiction.</quote> But someone at Kotaku thought this was a time to make mention of it and that annoyed you enough to make this topic rather than just realize that not everyone shares your lack of interest in talking about politics, in particular regarding this game, but I assume in general. My impression is that you went to Kotaku to find something to shit your pants about and this was the best you could come up with and you're nonsensically trying to make a big deal (or rather, any deal) out of it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 09/10/19 7:21:04 PM #54:	Antifar posted... hockeybub89 posted... Everything is political if you think about it, but we don't need to always talk about it with regards to fiction. Do you think we should ever talk about it? If yes, what is this topic really about? Yes. You know I regularly talk with a political charge. I just think calling out a game for deciding to not address politics is odd. Your character starts neutral anyway, so really, you make your own political statement. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:927257692] in Kotaku is ... [t:78002849]...</cite> <quote>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>Everything is political if you think about it, but we don't need to always talk about it with regards to fiction.</quote> Do you think we should ever talk about it? If yes, what is this topic really about?</quote> Yes. You know I regularly talk with a political charge. I just think calling out a game for deciding to not address politics is odd. Your character starts neutral anyway, so really, you make your own political statement.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 09/10/19 7:38:19 PM #55:	Darmik posted... hockeybub89 posted... Darmik posted... Like if you're criticizing Detroit Become Human for this and not games like Greedfall which apparently are doing the same thing you're really not being consistent. Are we supposed to talk or critique these things or not? I don't think they are doing the same thing. David Cage is also someone I don't believe. I also think pretty much all of past history was shit. I don't think that means anything set in the past needs to actively criticize the past. I'm not saying political messages are bad. I'm saying that not every game has to be politically conscious. I absolutely think they can do imperialism in a vacuum. My personal views and political leanings disagree with a lot of the things I do in video games. Everything is political if you think about it, but we don't need to always talk about it with regards to fiction. Why don't you think they're doing the same thing and why is it okay to criticize a David Cage game but not a Spider RPG? It sounds more like you're asking people to not criticize games you like. If you weren't interested in talking about politics for this game you didn't need to read the article and you most certainly did not need to make this topic. If you think this article is too extreme for you don't ever browse Waypoint. I have never played a Spiders game, just interested in GreedFall and Google had this in my feed, which I then read and chose to criticize the content. I didn't know opinions on opinions was akin to censorship. Also, I loved Detroit Become Human. I clearly did want to talk politics since I made this topic. Again, I feel like I've posted enough for someone to know I am in no way adverse to political discussion, but oh well, guess I'm eternally invisible. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:927258343] in Kotaku is ... [t:78002849]...</cite> <quote>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Like if you're criticizing Detroit Become Human for this and not games like Greedfall which apparently are doing the same thing you're really not being consistent. Are we supposed to talk or critique these things or not?</quote> I don't think they are doing the same thing. David Cage is also someone I don't believe. I also think pretty much all of past history was shit. I don't think that means anything set in the past needs to actively criticize the past. I'm not saying political messages are bad. I'm saying that not every game has to be politically conscious. I absolutely think they can do imperialism in a vacuum. My personal views and political leanings disagree with a lot of the things I do in video games. Everything is political if you think about it, but we don't need to always talk about it with regards to fiction.</quote> Why don't you think they're doing the same thing and why is it okay to criticize a David Cage game but not a Spider RPG? It sounds more like you're asking people to not criticize games you like. If you weren't interested in talking about politics for this game you didn't need to read the article and you most certainly did not need to make this topic. If you think this article is too extreme for you don't ever browse Waypoint.</quote> I have never played a Spiders game, just interested in GreedFall and Google had this in my feed, which I then read and chose to criticize the content. I didn't know opinions on opinions was akin to censorship. Also, I loved Detroit Become Human. I clearly did want to talk politics since I made this topic. Again, I feel like I've posted enough for someone to know I am in no way adverse to political discussion, but oh well, guess I'm eternally invisible.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vigorm0rtis 09/10/19 7:40:37 PM #56:	TheGleamEyes posted... Sounds like a typical liberal piece. (White man's) colonialism, imperialism, etc. bad! Not even video games are safe from their asinine "criticism". Imagine living in the toilet bowl echo chamber where you think that this is "typical liberal." --- "Can't wait to count out your coin!" -- Bethesda, 2018 <cite>vigorm0rtis posted [p:927258441] in Kotaku is ... [t:78002849]...</cite> <quote>TheGleamEyes posted...</cite> <quote>Sounds like a typical liberal piece. (White man's) colonialism, imperialism, etc. bad! Not even video games are safe from their asinine "criticism".</quote> Imagine living in the toilet bowl echo chamber where you think that this is "typical liberal."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 09/10/19 7:53:23 PM #57:	hockeybub89 posted... I have never played a Spiders game, just interested in GreedFall and Google had this in my feed, which I then read and chose to criticize the content. I didn't know opinions on opinions was akin to censorship. Also, I loved Detroit Become Human. I never accused you of censorship. Like you can acknowledge that Detroit Become Human doesn't handle its political themes well but you can still like the game right? Isn't it possible it's the same case with Greedfall? Look at it this way. Detroit is about android slaves rebelling against humans and wanting freedom. It constantly references the American Civil Rights movement and imagery. Greedfall is a fantasy game that is based in a setting where a native land is being colonized by Western settlers. They're clearly referencing the imagery of America being colonized in its design. I believe they're both from European developers too. I don't really understand why it's not fair to talk about the politics for one and not the other. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:927259001] in Kotaku is ... [t:78002849]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>I have never played a Spiders game, just interested in GreedFall and Google had this in my feed, which I then read and chose to criticize the content. I didn't know opinions on opinions was akin to censorship. Also, I loved Detroit Become Human.</quote> I never accused you of censorship. Like you can acknowledge that Detroit Become Human doesn't handle its political themes well but you can still like the game right? Isn't it possible it's the same case with Greedfall? Look at it this way. Detroit is about android slaves rebelling against humans and wanting freedom. It constantly references the American Civil Rights movement and imagery. Greedfall is a fantasy game that is based in a setting where a native land is being colonized by Western settlers. They're clearly referencing the imagery of America being colonized in its design. I believe they're both from European developers too. I don't really understand why it's not fair to talk about the politics for one and not the other.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 09/10/19 7:59:24 PM #58:	Truthfully, I should have known I would have ended up being stuck on the side with a bunch of right-wing shitposters. I don't know what I wanted. I just found this article and disagreed with the pretense. To sum it up, I guess I just don't think the absence of politics equals a political stand when it comes to fiction. Fiction is written by people, but I don't think the absence of political discussion in a game is the same as when some enlightened centrist both sides every issue. The absence of a statement isn't always a statement. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:927259269] in Kotaku is ... [t:78002849]...</cite> <quote>Truthfully, I should have known I would have ended up being stuck on the side with a bunch of right-wing shitposters. I don't know what I wanted. I just found this article and disagreed with the pretense. To sum it up, I guess I just don't think the absence of politics equals a political stand when it comes to fiction. Fiction is written by people, but I don't think the absence of political discussion in a game is the same as when some enlightened centrist both sides every issue. The absence of a statement isn't always a statement.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 09/10/19 8:03:07 PM #59:	Darmik posted... hockeybub89 posted... I have never played a Spiders game, just interested in GreedFall and Google had this in my feed, which I then read and chose to criticize the content. I didn't know opinions on opinions was akin to censorship. Also, I loved Detroit Become Human. I never accused you of censorship. Like you can acknowledge that Detroit Become Human doesn't handle its political themes well but you can still like the game right? Isn't it possible it's the same case with Greedfall? Look at it this way. Detroit is about android slaves rebelling against humans and wanting freedom. It constantly references the American Civil Rights movement and imagery. Greedfall is a fantasy game that is based in a setting where a native land is being colonized by Western settlers. They're clearly referencing the imagery of America being colonized in its design. I believe they're both from European developers too. I don't really understand why it's not fair to talk about the politics for one and not the other. I just saw it as criticizing a game for handling its message clumsily versus a game not handling a message at all. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:927259408] in Kotaku is ... [t:78002849]...</cite> <quote>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>I have never played a Spiders game, just interested in GreedFall and Google had this in my feed, which I then read and chose to criticize the content. I didn't know opinions on opinions was akin to censorship. Also, I loved Detroit Become Human.</quote> I never accused you of censorship. Like you can acknowledge that Detroit Become Human doesn't handle its political themes well but you can still like the game right? Isn't it possible it's the same case with Greedfall? Look at it this way. Detroit is about android slaves rebelling against humans and wanting freedom. It constantly references the American Civil Rights movement and imagery. Greedfall is a fantasy game that is based in a setting where a native land is being colonized by Western settlers. They're clearly referencing the imagery of America being colonized in its design. I believe they're both from European developers too. I don't really understand why it's not fair to talk about the politics for one and not the other.</quote> I just saw it as criticizing a game for handling its message clumsily versus a game not handling a message at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EverDownward 09/10/19 8:49:54 PM #60:	I just want to know if the game is fun. Caring about some deeper political associations is missing the forest for the trees. --- "Tried to point my finger, but the wind was blowing me around in circles, circles." <cite>EverDownward posted [p:927261459] in Kotaku is ... [t:78002849]...</cite> <quote>I just want to know if the game is fun. Caring about some deeper political associations is missing the forest for the trees.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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vigorm0rtis 09/10/19 8:53:10 PM #62:	VoightKent posted... https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_fill,f_auto,fl_progressive,g_center,h_200,q_80,w_200/ut5qfqj2iaoggrq0ihbs.png what is this even i'm genuinely confused Why? Are you unsure about whether to accept a blowjob? --- "Can't wait to count out your coin!" -- Bethesda, 2018 <cite>vigorm0rtis posted [p:927261627] in Kotaku is ... [t:78002849]...</cite> <quote>VoightKent posted...</cite> <quote>https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_fill,f_auto,fl_progressive,g_center,h_200,q_80,w_200/ut5qfqj2iaoggrq0ihbs.png what is this even i'm genuinely confused </quote> Why? Are you unsure about whether to accept a blowjob?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vigorm0rtis 09/10/19 8:57:45 PM #63:	EverDownward posted... I just want to know if the game is fun. Caring about some deeper political associations is missing the forest for the trees. It's good, depending. The combat is decent but a little lacking. Cities are sparse to the point of breaking immersion. There are a lot of reused assets. Customization and quest design are fantastic, though. It looks good overall, and it's surprisingly big free. --- "Can't wait to count out your coin!" -- Bethesda, 2018 <cite>vigorm0rtis posted [p:927261823] in Kotaku is ... [t:78002849]...</cite> <quote>EverDownward posted...</cite> <quote>I just want to know if the game is fun. Caring about some deeper political associations is missing the forest for the trees.</quote> It's good, depending. The combat is decent but a little lacking. Cities are sparse to the point of breaking immersion. There are a lot of reused assets. Customization and quest design are fantastic, though. It looks good overall, and it's surprisingly big free.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EverDownward 09/10/19 9:00:00 PM #64:	vigorm0rtis posted... EverDownward posted... I just want to know if the game is fun. Caring about some deeper political associations is missing the forest for the trees. It's good, depending. The combat is decent but a little lacking. Cities are sparse to the point of breaking immersion. There are a lot of reused assets. Customization and quest design are fantastic, though. It looks good overall, and it's surprisingly big free. The only two things holding me back is the price and the lack of diversity in regards to the hub areas (at least, I'm assuming the cities are like hubs). You think it's worth fifty bucks? --- "Tried to point my finger, but the wind was blowing me around in circles, circles." <cite>EverDownward posted [p:927261918] in Kotaku is ... [t:78002849]...</cite> <quote>vigorm0rtis posted...</cite> <quote>EverDownward posted...</cite> <quote>I just want to know if the game is fun. Caring about some deeper political associations is missing the forest for the trees.</quote> It's good, depending. The combat is decent but a little lacking. Cities are sparse to the point of breaking immersion. There are a lot of reused assets. Customization and quest design are fantastic, though. It looks good overall, and it's surprisingly big free.</quote> The only two things holding me back is the price and the lack of diversity in regards to the hub areas (at least, I'm assuming the cities are like hubs). You think it's worth fifty bucks?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 09/10/19 9:00:10 PM #65:	Antifar posted... hockeybub89 posted... Everything is political if you think about it, but we don't need to always talk about it with regards to fiction. Do you think we should ever talk about it? If yes, what is this topic really about? Weird fucking question. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:927261928] in Kotaku is ... [t:78002849]...</cite> <quote>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>Everything is political if you think about it, but we don't need to always talk about it with regards to fiction.</quote> Do you think we should ever talk about it? If yes, what is this topic really about?</quote> Weird fucking question.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 09/10/19 9:01:47 PM #66:	Malfunction posted... Right wingers really on a mission to ban opinions now Nah, just sharing our opinions regarding the bad opinions of others. It's a cycle of free speech. We're all 100% free to criticize one another however and whenever we like. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:927262011] in Kotaku is ... [t:78002849]...</cite> <quote>Malfunction posted...</cite> <quote>Right wingers really on a mission to ban opinions now</quote> Nah, just sharing our opinions regarding the bad opinions of others. It's a cycle of free speech. We're all 100% free to criticize one another however and whenever we like.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pres_madagascar 09/11/19 4:55:23 AM #67:	I'm left leaning as hell, probably more so than most, and I can't stand sjw bullshit and outrage culture. And I say this as someone who is part of the lgbtq spectrum. --- https://imgur.com/23CCcZB https://imgur.com/32mwCo1 https://imgur.com/oqklqKC <cite>pres_madagascar posted [p:927275859] in Kotaku is ... [t:78002849]...</cite> <quote>I'm left leaning as hell, probably more so than most, and I can't stand sjw bullshit and outrage culture. And I say this as someone who is part of the lgbtq spectrum. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
coh 09/11/19 4:56:57 AM #68:	Can't tell if the author's male or female <cite>coh posted [p:927275874] in Kotaku is ... [t:78002849]...</cite> <quote>Can't tell if the author's male or female </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 09/11/19 5:51:38 AM #69:	this is why nobody should ever take anything any sjw ever says seriously --- https://imgur.com/oQHLBrx https://imgur.com/ah5IE8D https://imgur.com/USV84z9 https://imgur.com/PSjlohO <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:927276578] in Kotaku is ... [t:78002849]...</cite> <quote>this is why nobody should ever take anything any sjw ever says seriously</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TwoDoorPunkCab 09/11/19 6:08:28 AM #70:	when your sjw-ness is so strong you want to start defending fake people in a virtual world --- Tell me your favourite things. Tell me your favourite things. <cite>TwoDoorPunkCab posted [p:927276795] in Kotaku is ... [t:78002849]...</cite> <quote>when your sjw-ness is so strong you want to start defending fake people in a virtual world</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Malfunction 09/11/19 6:16:29 AM #72:	There has been more than enough posts from avowed right wing accounts itt to make my post not untrue regardless of who OP is <cite>Malfunction posted [p:927276890] in Kotaku is ... [t:78002849]...</cite> <quote>There has been more than enough posts from avowed right wing accounts itt to make my post not untrue regardless of who OP is</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shnangyboos 09/11/19 7:02:52 AM #73:	hockeybub89 posted... Truthfully, I should have known I would have ended up being stuck on the side with a bunch of right-wing shitposters. I don't know what I wanted. I just found this article and disagreed with the pretense. To sum it up, I guess I just don't think the absence of politics equals a political stand when it comes to fiction. Fiction is written by people, but I don't think the absence of political discussion in a game is the same as when some enlightened centrist both sides every issue. The absence of a statement isn't always a statement. Heaven forbid you just think what you think without worrying about which political side your opinion falls on. --- How's my posting? Call http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/182361-human-resource-machine for any comments or concerns. <cite>shnangyboos posted [p:927277597] in Kotaku is ... [t:78002849]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>Truthfully, I should have known I would have ended up being stuck on the side with a bunch of right-wing shitposters. I don't know what I wanted. I just found this article and disagreed with the pretense. To sum it up, I guess I just don't think the absence of politics equals a political stand when it comes to fiction. Fiction is written by people, but I don't think the absence of political discussion in a game is the same as when some enlightened centrist both sides every issue. The absence of a statement isn't always a statement.</quote> Heaven forbid you just think what you think without worrying about which political side your opinion falls on. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AmericaTheBrave 09/11/19 7:57:55 AM #74:	Kotaku delenda est --- https://i.imgtc.ws/8tc5P9i.jpg That's America's ass <cite>AmericaTheBrave posted [p:927278590] in Kotaku is ... [t:78002849]...</cite> <quote>Kotaku delenda est</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lorenzo_2003 09/11/19 9:09:55 AM #76:	Not gonna lie, I agree with your take on this subject, but I never would have guessed youd be the one telling it like it is. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:927280383] in Kotaku is ... [t:78002849]...</cite> <quote>Not gonna lie, I agree with your take on this subject, but I never would have guessed youd be the one telling it like it is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 09/11/19 9:15:07 AM #77:	The meat of this article seems to be that the writer felt the game didn't fully utilize its setting, which is a pretty legit criticism. You're given choices but none of your choices actually change the world at all. The bit about being able to verbally reject the religious guy's views but having no way of intervening when he chokes a sinner in front of you sounds frustrating. It reminds me of all those times in RDR2 where you see Micah fucking with people in the camp to the point of physically hitting them, but you can't say or do anything to stop it. You can just stand and watch, then make vague comments afterward. It makes you feel like a spectator, which for a setting like what Greedfall appears to have sounds pretty half-assed. --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg https://imgur.com/8kjZU <cite>eston posted [p:927280523] in Kotaku is ... [t:78002849]...</cite> <quote>The meat of this article seems to be that the writer felt the game didn't fully utilize its setting, which is a pretty legit criticism. You're given choices but none of your choices actually change the world at all. The bit about being able to verbally reject the religious guy's views but having no way of intervening when he chokes a sinner in front of you sounds frustrating. It reminds me of all those times in RDR2 where you see Micah fucking with people in the camp to the point of physically hitting them, but you can't say or do anything to stop it. You can just stand and watch, then make vague comments afterward. It makes you feel like a spectator, which for a setting like what Greedfall appears to have sounds pretty half-assed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pres_madagascar 09/11/19 9:23:44 AM #78:	eston posted... The meat of this article seems to be that the writer felt the game didn't fully utilize its setting, which is a pretty legit criticism. You're given choices but none of your choices actually change the world at all. The bit about being able to verbally reject the religious guy's views but having no way of intervening when he chokes a sinner in front of you sounds frustrating. It reminds me of all those times in RDR2 where you see Micah fucking with people in the camp to the point of physically hitting them, but you can't say or do anything to stop it. You can just stand and watch, then make vague comments afterward. It makes you feel like a spectator, which for a setting like what Greedfall appears to have sounds pretty half-assed. You're also kind of expecting AAA nuance from a AA budget --- https://imgur.com/23CCcZB https://imgur.com/32mwCo1 https://imgur.com/oqklqKC <cite>pres_madagascar posted [p:927280798] in Kotaku is ... [t:78002849]...</cite> <quote>eston posted... </cite> <quote>The meat of this article seems to be that the writer felt the game didn't fully utilize its setting, which is a pretty legit criticism. You're given choices but none of your choices actually change the world at all. The bit about being able to verbally reject the religious guy's views but having no way of intervening when he chokes a sinner in front of you sounds frustrating. It reminds me of all those times in RDR2 where you see Micah fucking with people in the camp to the point of physically hitting them, but you can't say or do anything to stop it. You can just stand and watch, then make vague comments afterward. It makes you feel like a spectator, which for a setting like what Greedfall appears to have sounds pretty half-assed.</quote>You're also kind of expecting AAA nuance from a AA budget </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 09/11/19 9:39:40 AM #79:	pres_madagascar posted... You're also kind of expecting AAA nuance from a AA budget These are design decisions that really don't have a whole lot to do with the game's budget --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg https://imgur.com/8kjZU <cite>eston posted [p:927281300] in Kotaku is ... [t:78002849]...</cite> <quote>pres_madagascar posted...</cite> <quote>You're also kind of expecting AAA nuance from a AA budget </quote> These are design decisions that really don't have a whole lot to do with the game's budget</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 09/11/19 9:42:02 AM #80:	eston posted... pres_madagascar posted... You're also kind of expecting AAA nuance from a AA budget These are design decisions that really don't have a whole lot to do with the game's budget Ah yes, writing, voice acting, and programming have nothing to do with the budget, of course <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:927281363] in Kotaku is ... [t:78002849]...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote>pres_madagascar posted...</cite> <quote> You're also kind of expecting AAA nuance from a AA budget </quote> These are design decisions that really don't have a whole lot to do with the game's budget</quote> Ah yes, writing, voice acting, and programming have nothing to do with the budget, of course</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 09/11/19 9:52:03 AM #81:	That's an excuse, made by someone who literally has no concept of this game's budget or how it was allocated. Saying "oh but it's AA not AAA" means nothing in this context. --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg https://imgur.com/8kjZU <cite>eston posted [p:927281715] in Kotaku is ... [t:78002849]...</cite> <quote>That's an excuse, made by someone who literally has no concept of this game's budget or how it was allocated. Saying "oh but it's AA not AAA" means nothing in this context.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pres_madagascar 09/11/19 9:53:37 AM #82:	eston posted... That's an excuse, made by someone who literally has no concept of this game's budget or how it was allocated. Saying "oh but it's AA not AAA" means nothing in this context. Spiders is a team of 50 people. It was less than that when the game was in early development. --- https://imgur.com/23CCcZB https://imgur.com/32mwCo1 https://imgur.com/oqklqKC <cite>pres_madagascar posted [p:927281759] in Kotaku is ... [t:78002849]...</cite> <quote>eston posted... </cite> <quote>That's an excuse, made by someone who literally has no concept of this game's budget or how it was allocated. Saying "oh but it's AA not AAA" means nothing in this context.</quote>Spiders is a team of 50 people. It was less than that when the game was in early development. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 09/11/19 9:54:31 AM #83:	Okay, and that means people aren't allowed to point out its shortcomings apparently --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg https://imgur.com/8kjZU <cite>eston posted [p:927281786] in Kotaku is ... [t:78002849]...</cite> <quote>Okay, and that means people aren't allowed to point out its shortcomings apparently</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pres_madagascar 09/11/19 9:57:58 AM #84:	eston posted... Okay, and that means people aren't allowed to point out its shortcomings apparently No, but in terms of writing, this is literally their first game of this scale and scope. Technomancer was basically really really lite on story and was super simplistic, they're learning and progressing as they go. You can't judge their writing on the same level you could, say, Witcher 3 or Nier automata or something. --- https://imgur.com/23CCcZB https://imgur.com/32mwCo1 https://imgur.com/oqklqKC <cite>pres_madagascar posted [p:927281907] in Kotaku is ... [t:78002849]...</cite> <quote>eston posted... </cite> <quote>Okay, and that means people aren't allowed to point out its shortcomings apparently</quote>No, but in terms of writing, this is literally their first game of this scale and scope. Technomancer was basically really really lite on story and was super simplistic, they're learning and progressing as they go. You can't judge their writing on the same level you could, say, Witcher 3 or Nier automata or something. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 09/11/19 10:00:55 AM #85:	I don't think anyone is saying it should be like the Witcher 3. The writer actually has a lot of positive things to say about Greedfall, but ultimately felt it didn't come together in a cohesive way. That isn't a budget issue. --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg https://imgur.com/8kjZU <cite>eston posted [p:927282013] in Kotaku is ... [t:78002849]...</cite> <quote>I don't think anyone is saying it should be like the Witcher 3. The writer actually has a lot of positive things to say about Greedfall, but ultimately felt it didn't come together in a cohesive way. That isn't a budget issue.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Matchabuu_ 09/11/19 10:02:24 AM #86:	Antifar posted... You guys handle different opinions very poorly. ^ --- uwu SW-0239-3946-8686 <cite>_Matchabuu_ posted [p:927282071] in Kotaku is ... [t:78002849]...</cite> <quote>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>You guys handle different opinions very poorly.</quote> ^</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pres_madagascar 09/11/19 10:04:16 AM #87:	_Matchabuu_ posted... ^ Nah, I just like debating, and tend to play devils advocate a lot. I'm the worst person to ask about what games are amazing. I tend to not enjoy beloved games from this Gen, and end up liking the ones with flaws. --- https://imgur.com/23CCcZB https://imgur.com/32mwCo1 https://imgur.com/oqklqKC <cite>pres_madagascar posted [p:927282138] in Kotaku is ... [t:78002849]...</cite> <quote>_Matchabuu_ posted... </cite> <quote>^</quote>Nah, I just like debating, and tend to play devils advocate a lot. I'm the worst person to ask about what games are amazing. I tend to not enjoy beloved games from this Gen, and end up liking the ones with flaws. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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vigorm0rtis 09/11/19 3:13:12 PM #89:	EverDownward posted... The only two things holding me back is the price and the lack of diversity in regards to the hub areas (at least, I'm assuming the cities are like hubs). You think it's worth fifty bucks? @EverDownward I mean... I don't feel as if I'm not getting my money's worth, but I like a lot of eurojank games. If you're not sure, I'd wait. It'll drop in price quickly and probably be in a better state when you decide to pick it up. --- "Can't wait to count out your coin!" -- Bethesda, 2018 <cite>vigorm0rtis posted [p:927295451] in Kotaku is ... [t:78002849]...</cite> <quote>EverDownward posted...</cite> <quote> The only two things holding me back is the price and the lack of diversity in regards to the hub areas (at least, I'm assuming the cities are like hubs). You think it's worth fifty bucks?</quote> @EverDownward I mean... I don't feel as if I'm not getting my money's worth, but I like a lot of eurojank games. If you're not sure, I'd wait. It'll drop in price quickly and probably be in a better state when you decide to pick it up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 09/12/19 10:45:56 AM #90:	tldr: GTA V: 10/10 nothing wrong with psychopathic murder GreedFall: 0/10 imperialism scum --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:927332452] in Kotaku is ... [t:78002849]...</cite> <quote>tldr: GTA V: 10/10 nothing wrong with psychopathic murder GreedFall: 0/10 imperialism scum</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 09/12/19 10:47:07 AM #91:	DarkRoast posted... GTA V: 10/10 nothing wrong with psychopathic murder Here's what the author of this piece says about GTA V https://mobile.twitter.com/transgamerthink/status/994445913409183744 She's apparently protected her account, but a the Google results give you the gist: "I thought GTA V was a mess and the protagonists were a bunch of asshole rats so vapid that it's insulting..." --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:927332499] in Kotaku is ... [t:78002849]...</cite> <quote>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote>GTA V: 10/10 nothing wrong with psychopathic murder</quote> Here's what the author of this piece says about GTA V https://mobile.twitter.com/transgamerthink/status/994445913409183744 She's apparently protected her account, but a the Google results give you the gist: "I thought GTA V was a mess and the protagonists were a bunch of asshole rats so vapid that it's insulting..."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadBankerDream 09/12/19 10:49:17 AM #92:	Antifar posted... https://mobile.twitter.com/transgamerthink/status/994445913409183744 lol --- "Your mother was a broken down tub of junk with more gentlemen callers than the operator." <cite>DeadBankerDream posted [p:927332605] in Kotaku is ... [t:78002849]...</cite> <quote>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>https://mobile.twitter.com/transgamerthink/status/994445913409183744 </quote> lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 09/12/19 10:49:52 AM #93:	Also private Twitter lol <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:927332630] in Kotaku is ... [t:78002849]...</cite> <quote>Also private Twitter lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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