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OctilIery 09/10/19 8:34:28 PM #1:	It's what made the book so good, Jack was not a good guy but you could still sympathize with his struggles and downfalls. The movie has an asshole, his sweet but enabling wife, and his son. Good horror, but not an amazing movie. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:927260726] in The Shinin... [t:78003891]...</cite> <quote>It's what made the book so good, Jack was not a good guy but you could still sympathize with his struggles and downfalls. The movie has an asshole, his sweet but enabling wife, and his son. Good horror, but not an amazing movie.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 09/10/19 8:34:50 PM #2:	Nuclear take. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:927260744] in The Shinin... [t:78003891]...</cite> <quote>Nuclear take.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vigorm0rtis 09/10/19 8:35:48 PM #3:	There's a reason King hated that movie. It's not a bad reason-- Kubrick made movies about people without understanding people. --- "Can't wait to count out your coin!" -- Bethesda, 2018 <cite>vigorm0rtis posted [p:927260787] in The Shinin... [t:78003891]...</cite> <quote>There's a reason King hated that movie. It's not a bad reason-- Kubrick made movies about people without understanding people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 09/10/19 8:42:00 PM #4:	vigorm0rtis posted... There's a reason King hated that movie. It's not a bad reason-- Kubrick made movies about people without understanding people. This is probably the most accurate description of Kubrick I've heard <cite>OctilIery posted [p:927261074] in The Shinin... [t:78003891]...</cite> <quote>vigorm0rtis posted...</cite> <quote>There's a reason King hated that movie. It's not a bad reason-- Kubrick made movies about people without understanding people.</quote> This is probably the most accurate description of Kubrick I've heard</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 09/10/19 8:43:27 PM #5:	vigorm0rtis posted... There's a reason King hated that movie. It's not a bad reason-- Kubrick made movies about people without understanding people. The reason is King sucks --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. <cite>Irony posted [p:927261131] in The Shinin... [t:78003891]...</cite> <quote>vigorm0rtis posted...</cite> <quote>There's a reason King hated that movie. It's not a bad reason-- Kubrick made movies about people without understanding people.</quote> The reason is King sucks</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 09/10/19 8:44:07 PM #6:	Irony posted... vigorm0rtis posted... There's a reason King hated that movie. It's not a bad reason-- Kubrick made movies about people without understanding people. The reason is King sucks Irony <cite>OctilIery posted [p:927261157] in The Shinin... [t:78003891]...</cite> <quote>Irony posted...</cite> <quote>vigorm0rtis posted...</cite> <quote>There's a reason King hated that movie. It's not a bad reason-- Kubrick made movies about people without understanding people.</quote> The reason is King sucks</quote> Irony</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 09/10/19 8:44:41 PM #7:	OctilIery posted... Irony posted... vigorm0rtis posted... There's a reason King hated that movie. It's not a bad reason-- Kubrick made movies about people without understanding people. The reason is King sucks Irony King is a little bit of a hack, not gonna lie. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:927261186] in The Shinin... [t:78003891]...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>Irony posted...</cite> <quote>vigorm0rtis posted...</cite> <quote>There's a reason King hated that movie. It's not a bad reason-- Kubrick made movies about people without understanding people.</quote> The reason is King sucks</quote> Irony</quote> King is a little bit of a hack, not gonna lie.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 09/10/19 8:45:04 PM #8:	Gobstoppers12 posted... OctilIery posted... Irony posted... vigorm0rtis posted... There's a reason King hated that movie. It's not a bad reason-- Kubrick made movies about people without understanding people. The reason is King sucks Irony King is a little bit of a hack, not gonna lie. No lol. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:927261203] in The Shinin... [t:78003891]...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>Irony posted...</cite> <quote>vigorm0rtis posted...</cite> <quote>There's a reason King hated that movie. It's not a bad reason-- Kubrick made movies about people without understanding people.</quote> The reason is King sucks</quote> Irony</quote> King is a little bit of a hack, not gonna lie.</quote> No lol.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trigg3rH4ppy 09/10/19 8:45:41 PM #9:	I need to read that book. It's in my library just haven't got to it yet. Never watched the movie. --- ~A little nonsense, now and then, is relished by the wisest men ~ TWSSted since~ 3/27/12 https://imgur.com/zlaENmx <cite>Trigg3rH4ppy posted [p:927261232] in The Shinin... [t:78003891]...</cite> <quote>I need to read that book. It's in my library just haven't got to it yet. Never watched the movie.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 09/10/19 8:49:45 PM #10:	OctilIery posted... Gobstoppers12 posted... OctilIery posted... Irony posted... vigorm0rtis posted... There's a reason King hated that movie. It's not a bad reason-- Kubrick made movies about people without understanding people. The reason is King sucks Irony King is a little bit of a hack, not gonna lie. No lol. You saying no confirms he is --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. <cite>Irony posted [p:927261447] in The Shinin... [t:78003891]...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>Irony posted...</cite> <quote>vigorm0rtis posted...</cite> <quote>There's a reason King hated that movie. It's not a bad reason-- Kubrick made movies about people without understanding people.</quote> The reason is King sucks</quote> Irony</quote> King is a little bit of a hack, not gonna lie.</quote> No lol.</quote> You saying no confirms he is</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 09/10/19 9:12:05 PM #11:	Irony posted... OctilIery posted... Gobstoppers12 posted... OctilIery posted... Irony posted... vigorm0rtis posted... There's a reason King hated that movie. It's not a bad reason-- Kubrick made movies about people without understanding people. The reason is King sucks Irony King is a little bit of a hack, not gonna lie. No lol. You saying no confirms he is No lol <cite>OctilIery posted [p:927262507] in The Shinin... [t:78003891]...</cite> <quote>Irony posted...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>Irony posted...</cite> <quote>vigorm0rtis posted...</cite> <quote>There's a reason King hated that movie. It's not a bad reason-- Kubrick made movies about people without understanding people.</quote> The reason is King sucks</quote> Irony</quote> King is a little bit of a hack, not gonna lie.</quote> No lol.</quote> You saying no confirms he is</quote> No lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vigorm0rtis 09/10/19 10:03:46 PM #12:	Gobstoppers12 posted... OctilIery posted... Irony posted... vigorm0rtis posted... There's a reason King hated that movie. It's not a bad reason-- Kubrick made movies about people without understanding people. The reason is King sucks Irony King is a little bit of a hack, not gonna lie. May be true, but I did specify it wasn't a bad reason, because King isn't necessarily good. He has moments. --- "Can't wait to count out your coin!" -- Bethesda, 2018 <cite>vigorm0rtis posted [p:927264866] in The Shinin... [t:78003891]...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>Irony posted...</cite> <quote>vigorm0rtis posted...</cite> <quote>There's a reason King hated that movie. It's not a bad reason-- Kubrick made movies about people without understanding people.</quote> The reason is King sucks</quote> Irony</quote> King is a little bit of a hack, not gonna lie.</quote> May be true, but I did specify it wasn't a bad reason, because King isn't necessarily good. He has moments.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GeneralKenobi85 09/10/19 10:05:49 PM #13:	Pretty much. Wendy was also a much better character in the book. But overall I like that the movie is so different. Probably made me appreciate the book more. --- Ah, yes, the Negotiator: General Kenobi <sneaky beeping> <cite>GeneralKenobi85 posted [p:927264932] in The Shinin... [t:78003891]...</cite> <quote>Pretty much. Wendy was also a much better character in the book. But overall I like that the movie is so different. Probably made me appreciate the book more.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Verdekal 09/10/19 10:12:53 PM #14:	That's why I like the 1997 mini-series better. --- Don't tease the octopus, kids! <cite>Verdekal posted [p:927265220] in The Shinin... [t:78003891]...</cite> <quote>That's why I like the 1997 mini-series better. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 09/10/19 10:14:31 PM #15:	vigorm0rtis posted... Kubrick made movies about people without understanding people. I think A Clockwork Orange is quite a rebuttal to this --- https://i.imgtc.ws/sQvRQV7.jpg https://imgtc.ws/i/lT4IPDD.png <cite>Doe posted [p:927265286] in The Shinin... [t:78003891]...</cite> <quote>vigorm0rtis posted...</cite> <quote>Kubrick made movies about people without understanding people. </quote> I think A Clockwork Orange is quite a rebuttal to this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultimate reaver 09/10/19 10:16:42 PM #16:	For being the person that wrote the story, King has never done any favors for The Shining. The last quarter of the book is the progenitor of the idea that he sucks at endings, the mini series is terrible, Doctor Sleep is stupid horseshit that completely forgets the parts of what made the original book pretty good --- butts <cite>ultimate reaver posted [p:927265372] in The Shinin... [t:78003891]...</cite> <quote>For being the person that wrote the story, King has never done any favors for The Shining. The last quarter of the book is the progenitor of the idea that he sucks at endings, the mini series is terrible, Doctor Sleep is stupid horseshit that completely forgets the parts of what made the original book pretty good </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 09/10/19 10:21:09 PM #17:	ultimate reaver posted... The last quarter of the book is the progenitor of the idea that he sucks at endings, Except, like most of his endings, the ending for The Shining is great. ultimate reaver posted... Doctor Sleep is stupid horseshit that completely forgets the parts of what made the original book pretty good Also very, very wrong. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:927265537] in The Shinin... [t:78003891]...</cite> <quote>ultimate reaver posted...</cite> <quote>The last quarter of the book is the progenitor of the idea that he sucks at endings,</quote> Except, like most of his endings, the ending for The Shining is great. ultimate reaver posted...</cite> <quote>Doctor Sleep is stupid horseshit that completely forgets the parts of what made the original book pretty good</quote> Also very, very wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KILBOTz 09/10/19 10:22:28 PM #18:	Doe posted... vigorm0rtis posted... Kubrick made movies about people without understanding people. I think A Clockwork Orange is quite a rebuttal to this I don't understand the argument. The main character was the only flesh out character and I don't think the movie really showed he has a deep understanding of people. --- https://imgur.com/O3syCWD https://imgur.com/k3YiBdG <cite>KILBOTz posted [p:927265586] in The Shinin... [t:78003891]...</cite> <quote>Doe posted...</cite> <quote>vigorm0rtis posted...</cite> <quote>Kubrick made movies about people without understanding people. </quote> I think A Clockwork Orange is quite a rebuttal to this</quote> I don't understand the argument. The main character was the only flesh out character and I don't think the movie really showed he has a deep understanding of people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 09/10/19 10:26:52 PM #19:	I guess what I mean is that it's pretty extraordinary to claim that anybody just "doesn't understand people," especially when the accused has directed and wrote imo extremely human films --- https://i.imgtc.ws/sQvRQV7.jpg https://imgtc.ws/i/lT4IPDD.png <cite>Doe posted [p:927265747] in The Shinin... [t:78003891]...</cite> <quote>I guess what I mean is that it's pretty extraordinary to claim that anybody just "doesn't understand people," especially when the accused has directed and wrote imo extremely human films</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vigorm0rtis 09/10/19 10:29:57 PM #20:	Doe posted... vigorm0rtis posted... Kubrick made movies about people without understanding people. I think A Clockwork Orange is quite a rebuttal to this It's really not. A Clockwork Orange benefits from observing chaos, which a probable autist like Kubrick saw everywhere, but at no point does it seem that he's genuinely aware of what chaos outside a metaphorical circus tent looks like, because he doesn't understand what an abridgement of order is for ordinary people. --- "Can't wait to count out your coin!" -- Bethesda, 2018 <cite>vigorm0rtis posted [p:927265874] in The Shinin... [t:78003891]...</cite> <quote>Doe posted...</cite> <quote>vigorm0rtis posted...</cite> <quote>Kubrick made movies about people without understanding people. </quote> I think A Clockwork Orange is quite a rebuttal to this</quote> It's really not. A Clockwork Orange benefits from observing chaos, which a probable autist like Kubrick saw everywhere, but at no point does it seem that he's genuinely aware of what chaos outside a metaphorical circus tent looks like, because he doesn't understand what an abridgement of order is for ordinary people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultimate reaver 09/10/19 10:31:39 PM #21:	OctilIery posted... Except, like most of his endings, the ending for The Shining is great. Also very, very wrong. tbh you have horrible taste in just about everything you post about --- butts <cite>ultimate reaver posted [p:927265932] in The Shinin... [t:78003891]...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted... </cite> <quote>Except, like most of his endings, the ending for The Shining is great. Also very, very wrong.</quote> tbh you have horrible taste in just about everything you post about </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 09/11/19 10:15:16 AM #22:	ultimate reaver posted... OctilIery posted... Except, like most of his endings, the ending for The Shining is great. Also very, very wrong. tbh you have horrible taste in just about everything you post about No, not really. I generally have great taste. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:927282509] in The Shinin... [t:78003891]...</cite> <quote>ultimate reaver posted...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted... </cite> <quote>Except, like most of his endings, the ending for The Shining is great. Also very, very wrong.</quote> tbh you have horrible taste in just about everything you post about </quote> No, not really. I generally have great taste.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GeneralKenobi85 09/11/19 6:32:35 PM #23:	ultimate reaver posted... For being the person that wrote the story, King has never done any favors for The Shining. The last quarter of the book is the progenitor of the idea that he sucks at endings, the mini series is terrible, Doctor Sleep is stupid horseshit that completely forgets the parts of what made the original book pretty good There's nothing wrong with The Shining's ending though. It was a fine ending to a great book. --- Ah, yes, the Negotiator: General Kenobi <sneaky beeping> <cite>GeneralKenobi85 posted [p:927304436] in The Shinin... [t:78003891]...</cite> <quote>ultimate reaver posted...</cite> <quote>For being the person that wrote the story, King has never done any favors for The Shining. The last quarter of the book is the progenitor of the idea that he sucks at endings, the mini series is terrible, Doctor Sleep is stupid horseshit that completely forgets the parts of what made the original book pretty good </quote> There's nothing wrong with The Shining's ending though. It was a fine ending to a great book.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultimate reaver 09/11/19 6:37:17 PM #24:	GeneralKenobi85 posted... There's nothing wrong with The Shining's ending though. It was a fine ending to a great book. everything about the movie's ending was more haunting. Halloran fighting hedge monsters, a werewolf trying to give danny a blowjob, and jack getting that masturbatory "i might drink but i still love u son" then turning into a literal dancing cartoon monster man screaming about the boiler and then dying in what was written like the villain death of an 80s Arnold Schwarzenegger movie was a disservice to everything that happened before it. --- butts <cite>ultimate reaver posted [p:927304622] in The Shinin... [t:78003891]...</cite> <quote>GeneralKenobi85 posted... </cite> <quote>There's nothing wrong with The Shining's ending though. It was a fine ending to a great book.</quote> everything about the movie's ending was more haunting. Halloran fighting hedge monsters, a werewolf trying to give danny a blowjob, and jack getting that masturbatory "i might drink but i still love u son" then turning into a literal dancing cartoon monster man screaming about the boiler and then dying in what was written like the villain death of an 80s Arnold Schwarzenegger movie was a disservice to everything that happened before it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 09/11/19 6:41:25 PM #25:	ultimate reaver posted... GeneralKenobi85 posted... There's nothing wrong with The Shining's ending though. It was a fine ending to a great book. everything about the movie's ending was more haunting. Halloran fighting hedge monsters, a werewolf trying to give danny a blowjob, and jack getting that masturbatory "i might drink but i still love u son" then turning into a literal dancing cartoon monster man screaming about the boiler and then dying in what was written like the villain death of an 80s Arnold Schwarzenegger movie was a disservice to everything that happened before it. Except it wasn't. It was a payoff for all the buildup throughout the book, and the movie had just as much, if not more, weird off the wall stuff, without the strong characters behind it. There was no character growth or arc. In the Movie, Jack died and we cheered because the villain was dead(and hey, so was the only black guy). In the movie, Jack died and we mourned because he lost to his demons in the end, and we saw the end of a tormented man's fall. There was no emotional weight to the movie. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:927304769] in The Shinin... [t:78003891]...</cite> <quote>ultimate reaver posted...</cite> <quote>GeneralKenobi85 posted... </cite> <quote>There's nothing wrong with The Shining's ending though. It was a fine ending to a great book.</quote> everything about the movie's ending was more haunting. Halloran fighting hedge monsters, a werewolf trying to give danny a blowjob, and jack getting that masturbatory "i might drink but i still love u son" then turning into a literal dancing cartoon monster man screaming about the boiler and then dying in what was written like the villain death of an 80s Arnold Schwarzenegger movie was a disservice to everything that happened before it. </quote> Except it wasn't. It was a payoff for all the buildup throughout the book, and the movie had just as much, if not more, weird off the wall stuff, without the strong characters behind it. There was no character growth or arc. In the Movie, Jack died and we cheered because the villain was dead(and hey, so was the only black guy). In the movie, Jack died and we mourned because he lost to his demons in the end, and we saw the end of a tormented man's fall. There was no emotional weight to the movie.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultimate reaver 09/11/19 6:49:48 PM #26:	There was no emotional buildup throughout the book for Jack, he's obnoxious and flip flops between being an utter asshole and a generic protagonist man over and over again for seemingly no reason and the only reason people relate any more deeply with him in the book is because you follow events from his POV more often and because he gets that wretched saccharine monologue to Danny at the end. It's a completely overrated aspect of the book and a hamfisted metaphor for King's own alcoholic moodswings, but comes off as more pathetic and apologetic for himself than making any sort of statement because he was still deep in addition with no end in sight for more than a decade. Kubrick rightly recognized that the setting, its history, and the actual supernatural elements Jack Torrance nonwithstanding were by far the most interesting parts of the book. This is the reason his movie is remembered so fondly and the miniseries is largely forgotten (besides the lighting and camera work making it look like an episode of Goosebumps and literally every actor in it besides Rebecca De Mornay utterly phoning it in or just being outright bad) --- butts <cite>ultimate reaver posted [p:927305076] in The Shinin... [t:78003891]...</cite> <quote>There was no emotional buildup throughout the book for Jack, he's obnoxious and flip flops between being an utter asshole and a generic protagonist man over and over again for seemingly no reason and the only reason people relate any more deeply with him in the book is because you follow events from his POV more often and because he gets that wretched saccharine monologue to Danny at the end. It's a completely overrated aspect of the book and a hamfisted metaphor for King's own alcoholic moodswings, but comes off as more pathetic and apologetic for himself than making any sort of statement because he was still deep in addition with no end in sight for more than a decade. Kubrick rightly recognized that the setting, its history, and the actual supernatural elements Jack Torrance nonwithstanding were by far the most interesting parts of the book. This is the reason his movie is remembered so fondly and the miniseries is largely forgotten (besides the lighting and camera work making it look like an episode of Goosebumps and literally every actor in it besides Rebecca De Mornay utterly phoning it in or just being outright bad) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BeyondWalls 09/11/19 6:53:41 PM #27:	The Shining would be a much better movie if Jack was ever likable. That's exactly why I like the miniseries better. Come at me CE! --- END OF LINE <cite>BeyondWalls posted [p:927305262] in The Shinin... [t:78003891]...</cite> <quote><quote>The Shining would be a much better movie if Jack was ever likable.</quote> That's exactly why I like the miniseries better. Come at me CE!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EverDownward 09/11/19 6:56:05 PM #28:	yeah. too bad it's a much better adaptation than the one king supposedly sanctioned in the miniseries in the 90s. boy, what a motherfucking shitshow. there's a reason why some king films are legitimately great, and some are utter shit, and it's mostly because people take what works with king's cocaine fueled narratives and make it palateable on the big screen. remember the scene in the movie of the dude in the bear/dog suit giving the guy head, and not a fucking word is uttered? how absolutely terrifying it was? do you remember what it was like in the miniseries? do you want to? --- "Tried to point my finger, but the wind was blowing me around in circles, circles." <cite>EverDownward posted [p:927305377] in The Shinin... [t:78003891]...</cite> <quote>yeah. too bad it's a much better adaptation than the one king supposedly sanctioned in the miniseries in the 90s. boy, what a motherfucking shitshow. there's a reason why some king films are legitimately great, and some are utter shit, and it's mostly because people take what works with king's cocaine fueled narratives and make it palateable on the big screen. remember the scene in the movie of the dude in the bear/dog suit giving the guy head, and not a fucking word is uttered? how absolutely terrifying it was? do you remember what it was like in the miniseries? do you want to?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 09/11/19 6:56:16 PM #29:	The Shining was literally a perfect movie --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:927305384] in The Shinin... [t:78003891]...</cite> <quote>The Shining was literally a perfect movie</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 09/11/19 6:57:05 PM #30:	The Shining is the only horror movie I own or love. I never read the book or any Steven King though. As a nerd, I can totally understand why people who like the book would hate the movie. --- https://imgur.com/hslUvRN When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:927305420] in The Shinin... [t:78003891]...</cite> <quote>The Shining is the only horror movie I own or love. I never read the book or any Steven King though. As a nerd, I can totally understand why people who like the book would hate the movie.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 09/11/19 6:57:14 PM #31:	ultimate reaver posted... There was no emotional buildup throughout the book for Jack Objectively wrong. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:927305428] in The Shinin... [t:78003891]...</cite> <quote>ultimate reaver posted...</cite> <quote>There was no emotional buildup throughout the book for Jack</quote> Objectively wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EverDownward 09/11/19 7:02:53 PM #32:	i understand king hated it, but kubrick did a much better job adapting it than king ever could hope to. there's so much in the book that just doesn't cross over well into the visual medium, which is why kubrick made it work so well. you're never really sure if the place is haunted or not, you're not sure if jack's descent into madness is his own doing or by the crippling isolation the hotel imposes on him through its own machinations. at least, not until the end, anyways. the chemistry alone between duvall and nicholson is so goddamn good, you could have had a horror movie without king's setting and it would have worked because kubrick's direction and the innocence of duvall's performance mixed with the low-key depravity of nicholson's delivery is absolutely phenomenal. --- "Tried to point my finger, but the wind was blowing me around in circles, circles." <cite>EverDownward posted [p:927305660] in The Shinin... [t:78003891]...</cite> <quote>i understand king hated it, but kubrick did a much better job adapting it than king ever could hope to. there's so much in the book that just doesn't cross over well into the visual medium, which is why kubrick made it work so well. you're never really sure if the place is haunted or not, you're not sure if jack's descent into madness is his own doing or by the crippling isolation the hotel imposes on him through its own machinations. at least, not until the end, anyways. the chemistry alone between duvall and nicholson is so goddamn good, you could have had a horror movie without king's setting and it would have worked because kubrick's direction and the innocence of duvall's performance mixed with the low-key depravity of nicholson's delivery is absolutely phenomenal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultimate reaver 09/11/19 7:04:46 PM #33:	OctilIery posted... Objectively wrong. I wouldn't expect you to understand and am more using your infinitely retreaded bad opinion as an opportunity to shittalk the book honestly --- butts <cite>ultimate reaver posted [p:927305749] in The Shinin... [t:78003891]...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted... </cite> <quote>Objectively wrong.</quote> I wouldn't expect you to understand and am more using your infinitely retreaded bad opinion as an opportunity to shittalk the book honestly </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jagermeister513 09/11/19 7:05:30 PM #34:	I prefer the book to Kubrick's movie. --- I keep the dope fiends higher than the Goodyear Blimp <cite>Jagermeister513 posted [p:927305782] in The Shinin... [t:78003891]...</cite> <quote>I prefer the book to Kubrick's movie.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kensaimage 09/11/19 7:09:56 PM #35:	Gobstoppers12 posted... King is a little bit of a hack, not gonna lie. Yeah, thats why hes filthy rich, right? lol, stfu <cite>Kensaimage posted [p:927305982] in The Shinin... [t:78003891]...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted... </cite> <quote>King is a little bit of a hack, not gonna lie.</quote> Yeah, thats why hes filthy rich, right? lol, stfu </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 09/11/19 7:59:11 PM #36:	ultimate reaver posted... OctilIery posted... Objectively wrong. I wouldn't expect you to understand and am more using your infinitely retreaded bad opinion as an opportunity to shittalk the book honestly We get it, you enjoy being wrong <cite>OctilIery posted [p:927308081] in The Shinin... [t:78003891]...</cite> <quote>ultimate reaver posted...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted... </cite> <quote>Objectively wrong.</quote> I wouldn't expect you to understand and am more using your infinitely retreaded bad opinion as an opportunity to shittalk the book honestly </quote> We get it, you enjoy being wrong</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BeyondWalls 09/11/19 9:06:39 PM #37:	Kensaimage posted... Gobstoppers12 posted... King is a little bit of a hack, not gonna lie. Yeah, thats why hes filthy rich, right? lol, stfu Gobstopper isnt wrong. King is a little bit of a hack. Writing yourself into your own story is pretty hacky. --- END OF LINE <cite>BeyondWalls posted [p:927310836] in The Shinin... [t:78003891]...</cite> <quote>Kensaimage posted...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted... </cite> <quote>King is a little bit of a hack, not gonna lie.</quote> Yeah, thats why hes filthy rich, right? lol, stfu </quote> Gobstopper isnt wrong. King is a little bit of a hack. Writing yourself into your own story is pretty hacky.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 09/12/19 12:02:25 AM #38:	BeyondWalls posted... Kensaimage posted... Gobstoppers12 posted... King is a little bit of a hack, not gonna lie. Yeah, thats why hes filthy rich, right? lol, stfu Gobstopper isnt wrong. King is a little bit of a hack. Writing yourself into your own story is pretty hacky. Not really, it worked well <cite>OctilIery posted [p:927317843] in The Shinin... [t:78003891]...</cite> <quote>BeyondWalls posted...</cite> <quote>Kensaimage posted...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted... </cite> <quote>King is a little bit of a hack, not gonna lie.</quote> Yeah, thats why hes filthy rich, right? lol, stfu </quote> Gobstopper isnt wrong. King is a little bit of a hack. Writing yourself into your own story is pretty hacky.</quote> Not really, it worked well</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
user-2 09/12/19 12:18:54 AM #39:	The Shining is overrated imo. It's not even that scary and Jack Nicholson is only good at playing assholes because I think he's an asshole in real life too. His only good role is in Chinatown. He actually seems like a nice guy in that movie. <cite>user-2 posted [p:927318423] in The Shinin... [t:78003891]...</cite> <quote>The Shining is overrated imo. It's not even that scary and Jack Nicholson is only good at playing assholes because I think he's an asshole in real life too. His only good role is in Chinatown. He actually seems like a nice guy in that movie.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Old NoiseTank 09/12/19 12:23:47 AM #40:	nah the movie is fine the way it is. --- Grim Reaper: "Your time has come" Xsquader: "sir whats your badge number?" <cite>Old NoiseTank posted [p:927318588] in The Shinin... [t:78003891]...</cite> <quote>nah the movie is fine the way it is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
butthole666 09/12/19 12:32:26 AM #41:	The Shining is arguably the greatest horror film ever made, rivaled only by The Thing and Nosferatu. --- "Kenan & Kel is what made me realize I wasn't racist." ~ NewportBox100s <cite>butthole666 posted [p:927318882] in The Shinin... [t:78003891]...</cite> <quote>The Shining is arguably the greatest horror film ever made, rivaled only by The Thing and Nosferatu.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jagermeister513 09/12/19 12:32:42 AM #42:	BeyondWalls posted... Kensaimage posted... Gobstoppers12 posted... King is a little bit of a hack, not gonna lie. Yeah, thats why hes filthy rich, right? lol, stfu Gobstopper isnt wrong. King is a little bit of a hack. Writing yourself into your own story is pretty hacky. Yeah, that whole Dark Tower nonsense after his accident was dumb. Although to be fair, the guy got fucked up after being hit by that van. He wrote most of Dreamcatcher by long hand because he was so fucked up he couldn't sit for more than 20 minutes. --- I keep the dope fiends higher than the Goodyear Blimp <cite>Jagermeister513 posted [p:927318889] in The Shinin... [t:78003891]...</cite> <quote>BeyondWalls posted...</cite> <quote>Kensaimage posted...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted... </cite> <quote>King is a little bit of a hack, not gonna lie.</quote> Yeah, thats why hes filthy rich, right? lol, stfu </quote> Gobstopper isnt wrong. King is a little bit of a hack. Writing yourself into your own story is pretty hacky.</quote> Yeah, that whole Dark Tower nonsense after his accident was dumb. Although to be fair, the guy got fucked up after being hit by that van. He wrote most of Dreamcatcher by long hand because he was so fucked up he couldn't sit for more than 20 minutes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 09/12/19 1:32:54 AM #43:	Jagermeister513 posted... BeyondWalls posted... Kensaimage posted... Gobstoppers12 posted... King is a little bit of a hack, not gonna lie. Yeah, thats why hes filthy rich, right? lol, stfu Gobstopper isnt wrong. King is a little bit of a hack. Writing yourself into your own story is pretty hacky. Yeah, that whole Dark Tower nonsense after his accident was dumb. Although to be fair, the guy got fucked up after being hit by that van. He wrote most of Dreamcatcher by long hand because he was so fucked up he couldn't sit for more than 20 minutes. The whole last 3 Dark Tower books came out because he almost died after that horrific accident. I liked it for the most part, honestly. The final confrontation was definitely anticlimactic, but I loved the story. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:927320573] in The Shinin... [t:78003891]...</cite> <quote>Jagermeister513 posted...</cite> <quote>BeyondWalls posted...</cite> <quote>Kensaimage posted...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted... </cite> <quote>King is a little bit of a hack, not gonna lie.</quote> Yeah, thats why hes filthy rich, right? lol, stfu </quote> Gobstopper isnt wrong. King is a little bit of a hack. Writing yourself into your own story is pretty hacky.</quote> Yeah, that whole Dark Tower nonsense after his accident was dumb. Although to be fair, the guy got fucked up after being hit by that van. He wrote most of Dreamcatcher by long hand because he was so fucked up he couldn't sit for more than 20 minutes. The whole last 3 Dark Tower books came out because he almost died after that horrific accident.</quote> I liked it for the most part, honestly. The final confrontation was definitely anticlimactic, but I loved the story.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jagermeister513 09/12/19 1:44:36 AM #44:	OctilIery posted... Jagermeister513 posted... BeyondWalls posted... Kensaimage posted... Gobstoppers12 posted... King is a little bit of a hack, not gonna lie. Yeah, thats why hes filthy rich, right? lol, stfu Gobstopper isnt wrong. King is a little bit of a hack. Writing yourself into your own story is pretty hacky. Yeah, that whole Dark Tower nonsense after his accident was dumb. Although to be fair, the guy got fucked up after being hit by that van. He wrote most of Dreamcatcher by long hand because he was so fucked up he couldn't sit for more than 20 minutes. The whole last 3 Dark Tower books came out because he almost died after that horrific accident. I liked it for the most part, honestly. The final confrontation was definitely anticlimactic, but I loved the story. I did too. I mean, the guy almost fucking died and I get it. The last 3 books were awful. The whole "Insomnia is tricksy" bullshit when Roland got the book was dumb as fuck. It felt like a cheat for fans that had been reading since the 80s. "I know you guys have been fans of this Dark Tower shit, and I'm sorry I can't remember what happened after my accident. Here's Roland getting a po boy for Eddie because lol he can't say mayo." "Also here's the Crimson King being a guy throwing Harry Potter toys from a balcony." --- I keep the dope fiends higher than the Goodyear Blimp <cite>Jagermeister513 posted [p:927320888] in The Shinin... [t:78003891]...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>Jagermeister513 posted...</cite> <quote>BeyondWalls posted...</cite> <quote>Kensaimage posted...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted... </cite> <quote>King is a little bit of a hack, not gonna lie.</quote> Yeah, thats why hes filthy rich, right? lol, stfu </quote> Gobstopper isnt wrong. King is a little bit of a hack. Writing yourself into your own story is pretty hacky.</quote> Yeah, that whole Dark Tower nonsense after his accident was dumb. Although to be fair, the guy got fucked up after being hit by that van. He wrote most of Dreamcatcher by long hand because he was so fucked up he couldn't sit for more than 20 minutes. The whole last 3 Dark Tower books came out because he almost died after that horrific accident.</quote> I liked it for the most part, honestly. The final confrontation was definitely anticlimactic, but I loved the story.</quote> I did too. I mean, the guy almost fucking died and I get it. The last 3 books were awful. The whole "Insomnia is tricksy" bullshit when Roland got the book was dumb as fuck. It felt like a cheat for fans that had been reading since the 80s. "I know you guys have been fans of this Dark Tower shit, and I'm sorry I can't remember what happened after my accident. Here's Roland getting a po boy for Eddie because lol he can't say mayo." "Also here's the Crimson King being a guy throwing Harry Potter toys from a balcony."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paper_Okami 09/12/19 1:49:42 AM #45:	Kubrick's the Shining is a masterpiece The feeling of isolation and descending into Madness The creepy, enormous, labyrinth like hotel. --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie <cite>Paper_Okami posted [p:927321017] in The Shinin... [t:78003891]...</cite> <quote>Kubrick's the Shining is a masterpiece The feeling of isolation and descending into Madness The creepy, enormous, labyrinth like hotel. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 09/12/19 1:52:41 AM #46:	Jack Nicholson was miscast for the movie. It's impossible to sympathize even a little bit with Jack because he's played as a villain basically from the beginning of the film. --- https://imgur.com/VeNBg https://imgur.com/gd5jC8q https://imgur.com/PKIy7 https://imgur.com/3p29JqP <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:927321100] in The Shinin... [t:78003891]...</cite> <quote>Jack Nicholson was miscast for the movie. It's impossible to sympathize even a little bit with Jack because he's played as a villain basically from the beginning of the film.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 09/12/19 2:04:40 AM #47:	Jagermeister513 posted... The whole "Insomnia is tricksy" bullshit when Roland got the book was dumb as fuck. It felt like a cheat for fans that had been reading since the 80s I've read Insomnia. Holy shit, am I glad it wasn't important to the Dark Tower series. ~~Yeah, the Crimson King wasn't threatening as an old man throwing Harry Potter toys, but at least he wasn't a giant catfish.~~ --- https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:927321386] in The Shinin... [t:78003891]...</cite> <quote>Jagermeister513 posted...</cite> <quote> The whole "Insomnia is tricksy" bullshit when Roland got the book was dumb as fuck. It felt like a cheat for fans that had been reading since the 80s</quote> I've read Insomnia. Holy shit, am I glad it wasn't important to the Dark Tower series. Yeah, the Crimson King wasn't threatening as an old man throwing Harry Potter toys, but at least he wasn't a giant catfish.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 09/12/19 2:12:11 AM #49:	Jagermeister513 posted... OctilIery posted... Jagermeister513 posted... BeyondWalls posted... Kensaimage posted... Gobstoppers12 posted... King is a little bit of a hack, not gonna lie. Yeah, thats why hes filthy rich, right? lol, stfu Gobstopper isnt wrong. King is a little bit of a hack. Writing yourself into your own story is pretty hacky. Yeah, that whole Dark Tower nonsense after his accident was dumb. Although to be fair, the guy got fucked up after being hit by that van. He wrote most of Dreamcatcher by long hand because he was so fucked up he couldn't sit for more than 20 minutes. The whole last 3 Dark Tower books came out because he almost died after that horrific accident. I liked it for the most part, honestly. The final confrontation was definitely anticlimactic, but I loved the story. I did too. I mean, the guy almost fucking died and I get it. The last 3 books were awful. The whole "Insomnia is tricksy" bullshit when Roland got the book was dumb as fuck. It felt like a cheat for fans that had been reading since the 80s. "I know you guys have been fans of this Dark Tower shit, and I'm sorry I can't remember what happened after my accident. Here's Roland getting a po boy for Eddie because lol he can't say mayo." "Also here's the Crimson King being a guy throwing Harry Potter toys from a balcony." I loved the last 3 books! Even Song of Susahnna, I never got the hate but I might try it again. I liked the tossing in of other media elements too, even the snitches, it just felt really bland, and Patrick was a bad plot element to end it. But despite its flaws, I thought it was a fantastic series because the journey was so goddamn good. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:927321600] in The Shinin... [t:78003891]...</cite> <quote>Jagermeister513 posted...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>Jagermeister513 posted...</cite> <quote>BeyondWalls posted...</cite> <quote>Kensaimage posted...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted... </cite> <quote>King is a little bit of a hack, not gonna lie.</quote> Yeah, thats why hes filthy rich, right? lol, stfu </quote> Gobstopper isnt wrong. King is a little bit of a hack. Writing yourself into your own story is pretty hacky.</quote> Yeah, that whole Dark Tower nonsense after his accident was dumb. Although to be fair, the guy got fucked up after being hit by that van. He wrote most of Dreamcatcher by long hand because he was so fucked up he couldn't sit for more than 20 minutes. The whole last 3 Dark Tower books came out because he almost died after that horrific accident.</quote> I liked it for the most part, honestly. The final confrontation was definitely anticlimactic, but I loved the story.</quote> I did too. I mean, the guy almost fucking died and I get it. The last 3 books were awful. The whole "Insomnia is tricksy" bullshit when Roland got the book was dumb as fuck. It felt like a cheat for fans that had been reading since the 80s. "I know you guys have been fans of this Dark Tower shit, and I'm sorry I can't remember what happened after my accident. Here's Roland getting a po boy for Eddie because lol he can't say mayo." "Also here's the Crimson King being a guy throwing Harry Potter toys from a balcony."</quote> I loved the last 3 books! Even Song of Susahnna, I never got the hate but I might try it again. I liked the tossing in of other media elements too, even the snitches, it just felt really bland, and Patrick was a bad plot element to end it. But despite its flaws, I thought it was a fantastic series because the journey was so goddamn good.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 09/12/19 2:14:38 AM #50:	pegusus123456 posted... Jagermeister513 posted... The whole "Insomnia is tricksy" bullshit when Roland got the book was dumb as fuck. It felt like a cheat for fans that had been reading since the 80s I've read Insomnia. Holy shit, am I glad it wasn't important to the Dark Tower series. ~~Yeah, the Crimson King wasn't threatening as an old man throwing Harry Potter toys, but at least he wasn't a giant catfish.~~ I'll be honest, I barely remember the more extreme elements of Insomnia because I just could not get into the book. It was dull, and only had a couple memorable scenes throughout. Though for some reason, the scene with the MC endlessly sorting through the pantry stuck with me. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:927321650] in The Shinin... [t:78003891]...</cite> <quote>pegusus123456 posted...</cite> <quote>Jagermeister513 posted...</cite> <quote> The whole "Insomnia is tricksy" bullshit when Roland got the book was dumb as fuck. It felt like a cheat for fans that had been reading since the 80s</quote> I've read Insomnia. Holy shit, am I glad it wasn't important to the Dark Tower series. Yeah, the Crimson King wasn't threatening as an old man throwing Harry Potter toys, but at least he wasn't a giant catfish.</quote> I'll be honest, I barely remember the more extreme elements of Insomnia because I just could not get into the book. It was dull, and only had a couple memorable scenes throughout. Though for some reason, the scene with the MC endlessly sorting through the pantry stuck with me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gafemage 09/12/19 2:15:18 AM #51:	Paper_Okami posted... Kubrick's the Shining is a masterpiece The feeling of isolation and descending into Madness The creepy, enormous, labyrinth like hotel. --- https://imgur.com/1EOFcjn https://imgur.com/epjd8zk #ShameGimmickAccounts2k20 <cite>Gafemage posted [p:927321673] in The Shinin... [t:78003891]...</cite> <quote>Paper_Okami posted...</cite> <quote>Kubrick's the Shining is a masterpiece The feeling of isolation and descending into Madness The creepy, enormous, labyrinth like hotel.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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