Poll of the Day > White Privilege

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Utter bollocks.
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@BUMPED2002 posted...

Is it real or imagined in America?

It is financial priviledge.

Rich people are offered insanely more chances than poor people.

Have a black guy wearing Armani go in for a interview after he was coached by a $400 a hour consultant on how to look amazing, and have a white trailer trash poor red neck go into interview.

Even if the guy was literally racist, he would still hire the black guy.

The real privilege is rich vs poor. The rich are also the ones pulling the strings to create all these false narratives to keep them selves protected by having everyone believe nonsense.

If you come from money you will have every advantage. While if you come from none, expect your life to be blood, sweat, and tears.

ThisIsIt posted...

The rich are also the ones pulling the strings to create all these false narratives to keep them selves protected by having everyone believe nonsense.

So true. And the name on the application argument is pretty much meaningless garbage too. Most black people I know have names that are common among white people like brad, michael, kevin, greg, john, yada yada. Names like jaques are what have you are fairly uncommon

Lokarin posted...

Do you believe that White people have a privilege that advantages them?

If yes, you are literally (if not contextually) a White Supremacist.

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no?

if I said people born into wealthy families have an easier shot at life, I'm not being a wealth supremacist, I'm acknowledging that the system in place gives an advantage to those with more money. there's no value judgment necessary here, which is required for it to really be anything like white supremacy.
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ThisIsIt posted...

@BUMPED2002 posted...

Is it real or imagined in America?

It is financial priviledge.

Rich people are offered insanely more chances than poor people.

Have a black guy wearing Armani go in for a interview after he was coached by a $400 a hour consultant on how to look amazing, and have a white trailer trash poor red neck go into interview.

Even if the guy was literally racist, he would still hire the black guy.

The real privilege is rich vs poor. The rich are also the ones pulling the strings to create all these false narratives to keep them selves protected by having everyone believe nonsense.

If you come from money you will have every advantage. While if you come from none, expect your life to be blood, sweat, and tears.

would it blow your mind that people can be all combinations of black/white and rich/poor, allowing us to find the contributions of both race and wealth (and even sex, age, and ability)? And that, unsurprisingly, they all matter to some degree?
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Clench281 posted...

would it blow your mind that people can be all combinations of black/white and rich/poor, allowing us to find the contributions of both race and wealth (and even sex, age, and ability)? And that, unsurprisingly, they all matter to some degree?

All the rest are trivial compared to wealth. Wealth trumps all by miles. And the wealthy would rather have us fighting each other about race and sex instead of fighting the elite much like how we argue about minimum wage and who deserves to get 2 more bucks on the hour rather than all of us fighting the top so that everyone gets a fair wage

Sorry but I can name examples of white 'privilege' that I've seen in public. For instance when I go shopping, nobody follows me around to make sure that I'm not taking stuff out of the store. My daughter, who is biracial, however, the store people will watch the whole time to make sure that she doesn't shoplift (nobody gives her the benefit of a doubt despite the fact that she's never shoplifted in her life). I've gone into restaurants with my daughter and had people try to sit us at the back of the restaurant near the kitchen (another place that fits the stereotype that blacks sit in the back where they can't be seen). In fact I went to one restaurant where they sat all black customers in a back corner and wanted to seat me and my daughter there too but I vehemently refused to let them; so don't tell me that there's no such thing as 'white privilege'. I don't remember ever being seated in one specific place in a restaurant because I'm white no matter how much or little money I had at the time.

GastroFan posted...

Sorry but I can name examples of white 'privilege' that I've seen in public. For instance when I go shopping, nobody follows me around to make sure that I'm not taking stuff out of the store. My daughter, who is biracial, however, the store people will watch the whole time to make sure that she doesn't shoplift (nobody gives her the benefit of a doubt despite the fact that she's never shoplifted in her life). I've gone into restaurants with my daughter and had people try to sit us at the back of the restaurant near the kitchen (another place that fits the stereotype that blacks sit in the back where they can't be seen). In fact I went to one restaurant where they sat all black customers in a back corner and wanted to seat me and my daughter there too but I vehemently refused to let them; so don't tell me that there's no such thing as 'white privilege'. I don't remember ever being seated in one specific place in a restaurant because I'm white no matter how much or little money I had at the time.

Sounds mostly like paranoia to me. I've worked retail before and we were told to follow people around but it was also people (both white and black) that we knew had shoplifted already. And I've been sat in less than ideal areas of the restaurant that seemed odd to me but I'm also a long haired guy so that might have something to do with it. Something like doesnt actually have an effect on my life though other than it being rude. And that's the argument being made here. Even if that sort of thing does happen, it's just rude and annoying rather than actually effecting your life in any meaningful way

SunWuKung420 posted...

Lol at Caucasians claiming white privilege is exaggerated

Said the white guy.

Class privilege is way more prevalent and obvious.

Every example of white privilege I've been shown is always anecdotal and tends to happen to people of all walks of life.

Theres nothing wrong with discussing it I suppose but I think theres something wrong with your state of mind when you can blame everything on not being white. It shows very little faith in humanity and gives no room for benefit of the doubt.

I would rather live like this:

Benefit of the Doubt
"To give someone the benefit of the doubt is to default to the belief that their intentions are honest, and not assume malice when there is uncertainty or doubt surrounding the circumstances."
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GastroFan posted...

Sorry but I can name examples of white 'privilege' that I've seen in public. For instance when I go shopping, nobody follows me around to make sure that I'm not taking stuff out of the store. My daughter, who is biracial, however, the store people will watch the whole time to make sure that she doesn't shoplift (nobody gives her the benefit of a doubt despite the fact that she's never shoplifted in her life). I've gone into restaurants with my daughter and had people try to sit us at the back of the restaurant near the kitchen (another place that fits the stereotype that blacks sit in the back where they can't be seen). In fact I went to one restaurant where they sat all black customers in a back corner and wanted to seat me and my daughter there too but I vehemently refused to let them; so don't tell me that there's no such thing as 'white privilege'. I don't remember ever being seated in one specific place in a restaurant because I'm white no matter how much or little money I had at the time.

Exactly someone like Wendy Williams can't even catch a cab in New York unless she's with white friends or Oprah being followed around in a clothing store. Not to mention the discrimination when it comes to whites and blacks being sentenced in courts.

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FinalFantasyVII posted...

Branding the lack social adversity white people face as White Privilege was a huge mistake.

The real mistake is trying to frame adversity as a result of race when not only is the claim fundamentally wrong, but it makes people less likely to support reforms.

Gaawa_chan posted...

Just for one example... if you take two identical copies of a job application and one has the name "Brad" and the other one has the name "Damian," the latter one will be rejected for hiring significantly more often than the former, despite the only difference on the documentation being that one has a name more associated with black people.

The problem with that claim is that it's been shown that ANY unusual-sounding name, regardless of racial association, performs worse than common names (and the more unusual the name, the worse it tends to do). And Damian is a weird choice for your example, considering it tends to be more popular among whites than blacks. Are you confusing it for Damon or another variation?

Gaawa_chan posted...

It's like when talking about how toxic masculinity may result in emotionally neglected boys committing suicide more often and someone runs in and starts losing their mind over how maleness isn't bad. They're getting torqued out of shape over the term rather than the substance.

Oh lawd... Is there anything the feminist movement -- itself highly toxic -- won't try to blame on masculinity?

ThisIsIt posted...

The real privilege is rich vs poor. The rich are also the ones pulling the strings to create all these false narratives to keep them selves protected by having everyone believe nonsense.

If you come from money you will have every advantage. While if you come from none, expect your life to be blood, sweat, and tears.

If money were truly the advantage you believe, hereditary wealth wouldn't wipe itself out so often. And most of the true advantages held by the elites comes less from their money than it does from their personal connections. And the families have that managed to hold onto their wealth the longest tend to have very deep connections throughout the upper stratosphere of society. However, a lot of social advantages are available at all income levels -- parental involvement (or other adult supervision), for starters.
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GastroFan posted...

Sorry but I can name examples of white 'privilege' that I've seen in public. For instance when I go shopping, nobody follows me around to make sure that I'm not taking stuff out of the store. My daughter, who is biracial, however, the store people will watch the whole time to make sure that she doesn't shoplift (nobody gives her the benefit of a doubt despite the fact that she's never shoplifted in her life). I've gone into restaurants with my daughter and had people try to sit us at the back of the restaurant near the kitchen (another place that fits the stereotype that blacks sit in the back where they can't be seen). In fact I went to one restaurant where they sat all black customers in a back corner and wanted to seat me and my daughter there too but I vehemently refused to let them; so don't tell me that there's no such thing as 'white privilege'. I don't remember ever being seated in one specific place in a restaurant because I'm white no matter how much or little money I had at the time.

Anecdotes: The Movie! First off, when I worked retail, we had suspicious-looking white folks we followed and kept an eye on. When a sketchy-looking person in general walked in the door -- regardless of race (although that race was usually white) -- our manager would approach us, tap us on the shoulder, and instruct us to watch them. This was the case with multiple retail outfits, both corporate-ran and mom&pop (although it happened waaaaaaaaaaaay more often with mom&pops). And, more importantly, I've seen white people followed and there have been times when I've had an owner standing over my shoulder for most of the time I was in their store. White people don't get followed? Bullshit.

And having been seated at the back of restaurants over the years, I haven't a conspicuous number of minorities vs whites there despite your claims that these places are segregated.
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Clench281 posted...

Lokarin posted...

Do you believe that White people have a privilege that advantages them?

If yes, you are literally (if not contextually) a White Supremacist.

wtf.jpg

no?

if I said people born into wealthy families have an easier shot at life, I'm not being a wealth supremacist, I'm acknowledging that the system in place gives an advantage to those with more money. there's no value judgment necessary here, which is required for it to really be anything like white supremacy.

That actually is wealth supremacy.
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This was a great topic.
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EvilMegas posted...

This was a great topic.

Waaaaah my life sucks because white people waaaaahhh

White man still trying to keep me down. Smh
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OhhhJa posted...

EvilMegas posted...

This was a great topic.

Waaaaah my life sucks because white people waaaaahhh

They did set up and many still work to keep some very toxic and xenophobic systems in place.
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Lokarin posted...

A privilege is something that can be granted/revoked.

So if it exists, it's the White Right, not privilege.

I disagree with that because White privilege was put into the Constitution, Bill Of Rights, and Declaration Of Independence. If you read those documents they all set aside Privilege for Whites in a White country which explains why millions of acres of land was doled out in Homestead Acts in the 1860s/1870s and only newly arriving poor penniless European immigrants were allowed participate.
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