Current Events > WMO slams Climate Extremists

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https://www.theepochtimes.com/in-unprecedented-move-head-of-key-meteorological-organization-slams-climate-extremists_3076409.html


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Is there a better source?

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pls posted...

Is there a better source?

original source

https://tinyurl.com/y4lz8hhg

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I'ma need a better English source. If this is true it is rather reassuring.

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pls posted...

I'ma need a better English source. If this is true it is rather reassuring.

hi Proudclad

treewojima posted...

Mixed due to the publication of pseudoscience as well as propaganda against China and strong support for the Trump administration.

XD

this basically translates to "FAKENEWSFAKENEWSFAKENEWSFAKENEWS!!!!11!!1!!!"

Not that I'm surprised in any way, shape or form based on the topic creator's history on this board.
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pls posted...

I'ma need a better English source. If this is true it is rather reassuring.

https://public.wmo.int/en/media/news/statement-wmo-secretary-general-petteri-taalas

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literal omnicidal propaganda

Mixed due to the publication of pseudoscience as well as propaganda against China and strong support for the Trump administration.

yeah bullshit fake news site like foxnews
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Machete posted...

XD

this basically translates to "FAKENEWSFAKENEWSFAKENEWSFAKENEWS!!!!11!!1!!!"

Not that I'm surprised in any way, shape or form based on the topic creator's history on this board.

It quite odd he made those statement shortly after they started adding solar particles into the models, something they have ignored in all the previous models that ended up giving faulty results. I think they are quickly discovering the over estimated co2 contribution (which is why all past models have been off)

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"Climate extremists"

Anyone saying that phrase should be ashamed of themselves.

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MorbidFaithless posted...

Climate extremists

well what would be the better term to use for people who think the world going to end?

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I mean his comments from that third source still say we should proceed with more commitment and vigor than we have now. Just not to lose hope.

Not quite the same as what that first link said.

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Jaghave posted...

MorbidFaithless posted...

Climate extremists

well what would be the better term to use for people who think the world going to end?

"Informed"

Omnislasher posted...

Jaghave posted...

MorbidFaithless posted...

Climate extremists

well what would be the better term to use for people who think the world going to end?

"Informed"

"Nihilists" is more like it.
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Omnislasher posted...

"Informed"

so why are they still trusting on model that have been consistently wrong and distorted?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climatic_Research_Unit_email_controversy

in 2022 when the new analyze is release now considering solar particles, something that was ignored before your going to quickly discover how little co2 is effecting our climate and how our future is cold not hot.

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Omnislasher posted...

"Informed"

The world is not going to end lmao. Get over yourself

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yawn

this rock we call Earth will still be here, the question is what will happen to those who live in coastal areas or regions affected by drought. agriculture will be impacted as well

I'm concerned for our children and our children's children because I'm not a selfish prick

treewojima posted...

this rock we call Earth will still be here, the question is what will happen to those who live in coastal areas or regions affected by drought. agriculture will be impacted as well

I'm concerned for our children and our children's children because I'm not a selfish prick

I'm not concern about climate getting hot, I'm concern about temperature falling which will be much more devastating to mankind then warmth.

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treewojima posted...

this rock we call Earth will still be here, the question is what will happen to those who live in coastal areas or regions affected by drought. agriculture will be impacted as well

I'm concerned for our children and our children's children because I'm not a selfish prick

It's a challenge that we need to overcome and a problem we need to fix, but we'll be fine. It'll be fixed, you'll see. Within 15 years.

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treewojima posted...

this rock we call Earth will still be here, the question is what will happen to those who live in coastal areas or regions affected by drought. agriculture will be impacted as well

I'm concerned for our children and our children's children because I'm not a selfish prick

Our children will be fine.
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Climate is gonna climate...regardless of how we try to stop it from changing. The only thing we actually control is how much trash we leave behind and how we use up our resources. There is no influencing climate on a grand scale.
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scorpion41 posted...

Climate is gonna climate...regardless of how we try to stop it from changing. The only thing we actually control is how much trash we leave behind and how we use up our resources. There is no influencing climate on a grand scale.

I hope you're trolling. If not this is an unbelievably stupid position to hold. What do you think would happen to the planet if we detonated tons of nukes and let the fall out fuck up the environment? The climate would completely change. Climate change is like that except at a slower rate because of CO2.

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The biggest contributor to global warming is the number of hot takes on the internet
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pls posted...

scorpion41 posted...

Climate is gonna climate...regardless of how we try to stop it from changing. The only thing we actually control is how much trash we leave behind and how we use up our resources. There is no influencing climate on a grand scale.

I hope you're trolling. If not this is an unbelievably stupid position to hold. What do you think would happen to the planet if we detonated tons of nukes and let the fall out fuck up the environment? The climate would completely change. Climate change is like that except at a slower rate because of CO2.

Ironically those nukes have a much higher chance of wiping out humanity then the climate does.
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scorpion41 posted...

Climate is gonna climate...regardless of how we try to stop it from changing. The only thing we actually control is how much trash we leave behind and how we use up our resources. There is no influencing climate on a grand scale.

I mean, we can start by acknowledging that change is coming rather than writing it off as alarmist extremism and just kicking the can down the road

We don't need to go full WSHTF doomsday prepper, but we should at least acknowledge that it's happening instead of the official US policy of "nah, don't be silly, more clean coal pls"

Higher taxes won't make climate change stop.
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treewojima posted...

We don't need to go full WSHTF doomsday prepper, but we should at least acknowledge that it's happening instead of the official US policy of "nah, don't be silly, more clean coal pls"

Official US policy is, thankfully, ineffective at keeping the coal companies afloat. The largest coal companies in the US have been going bankrupt because they cannot compete with renewables.

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The fix for climate change isnt due until tomorrow, Ill just wake up early and do it in the morning.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-37775622

We're already around halfway through the Holocene extinction, and it's only taken 40 years

pls posted...

scorpion41 posted...

Climate is gonna climate...regardless of how we try to stop it from changing. The only thing we actually control is how much trash we leave behind and how we use up our resources. There is no influencing climate on a grand scale.

I hope you're trolling. If not this is an unbelievably stupid position to hold. What do you think would happen to the planet if we detonated tons of nukes and let the fall out fuck up the environment? The climate would completely change. Climate change is like that except at a slower rate because of CO2.

Lets hypothesize an unbelievably far-fetched scenario in which we unleash millions of tons of radioactive material all at once!

Well no duh the climate will change if you kill every living thing on earth with radiation. CO2 doesnt work like that, and nor do we release enough to cause climate change. Climate change happens naturally. Earth had been cooling and warming in cycles long before the tree huggers started crying about carbon footprints.
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pls posted...

treewojima posted...

We don't need to go full WSHTF doomsday prepper, but we should at least acknowledge that it's happening instead of the official US policy of "nah, don't be silly, more clean coal pls"

Official US policy is, thankfully, ineffective at keeping the coal companies afloat. The largest coal companies in the US have been going bankrupt because they cannot compete with renewables.

I'd say it's primarily natural gas with renewables helping out. Gas is more expensive as an initial investment but between fracking and offshore rigs, the infrastructure is already up and running and produces greater returns than coal mines, plus without the stigma of being dirty and incredibly unhealthy and dangerous to the workers.

pls posted...

Official US policy is, thankfully, ineffective at keeping the coal companies afloat. The largest coal companies in the US have been going bankrupt because they cannot compete with renewables.

natural gas is not renewable (which is why is out pricing coal at the moment)

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treewojima posted...

pls posted...

treewojima posted...

We don't need to go full WSHTF doomsday prepper, but we should at least acknowledge that it's happening instead of the official US policy of "nah, don't be silly, more clean coal pls"

Official US policy is, thankfully, ineffective at keeping the coal companies afloat. The largest coal companies in the US have been going bankrupt because they cannot compete with renewables.

I'd say it's primarily natural gas with renewables helping out. Gas is more expensive as an initial investment but between fracking and offshore rigs, the infrastructure is already up and running and produces greater returns than coal mines, plus without the stigma of being dirty and incredibly unhealthy and dangerous to the workers.

You mean the same fracking thats poisoning the water supply and giving people cancer? We should be doing less of it, not more.
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Jaghave posted...

https://public.wmo.int/en/media/news/statement-wmo-secretary-general-petteri-taalas

lmao.

that's what passes for "slamming" these days?


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Why is the 261 garbage leaking over to CE lately?
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Evening_Dragon posted...

Why is the 261 garbage leaking over to CE lately?

I seem to get suspended quicker over here : )

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scorpion41 posted...

pls posted...

scorpion41 posted...

Climate is gonna climate...regardless of how we try to stop it from changing. The only thing we actually control is how much trash we leave behind and how we use up our resources. There is no influencing climate on a grand scale.

I hope you're trolling. If not this is an unbelievably stupid position to hold. What do you think would happen to the planet if we detonated tons of nukes and let the fall out fuck up the environment? The climate would completely change. Climate change is like that except at a slower rate because of CO2.

Lets hypothesize an unbelievably far-fetched scenario in which we unleash millions of tons of radioactive material all at once!

Well no duh the climate will change if you kill every living thing on earth with radiation. CO2 doesnt work like that, and nor do we release enough to cause climate change. Climate change happens naturally. Earth had been cooling and warming in cycles long before the tree huggers started crying about carbon footprints.

https://skepticalscience.com/climate-change-little-ice-age-medieval-warm-period-intermediate.htm

Duncanwii posted...

treewojima posted...

pls posted...

treewojima posted...

We don't need to go full WSHTF doomsday prepper, but we should at least acknowledge that it's happening instead of the official US policy of "nah, don't be silly, more clean coal pls"

Official US policy is, thankfully, ineffective at keeping the coal companies afloat. The largest coal companies in the US have been going bankrupt because they cannot compete with renewables.

I'd say it's primarily natural gas with renewables helping out. Gas is more expensive as an initial investment but between fracking and offshore rigs, the infrastructure is already up and running and produces greater returns than coal mines, plus without the stigma of being dirty and incredibly unhealthy and dangerous to the workers.

You mean the same fracking thats poisoning the water supply and giving people cancer? We should be doing less of it, not more.

I didn't say I liked fracking or even drilling, just that it's become competitive with coal. I'd rather have fracking and natural gas plants than underground and strip coal mines that give miners black lung and pump filthy soot into the air and coal ash into the water supply.

scorpion41 posted...

Lets hypothesize an unbelievably far-fetched scenario in which we unleash millions of tons of radioactive material all at once!

Well no duh the climate will change if you kill every living thing on earth with radiation. CO2 doesnt work like that, and nor do we release enough to cause climate change. Climate change happens naturally. Earth had been cooling and warming in cycles long before the tree huggers started crying about carbon footprints.

No we are literally accelerating the warming by burning fossil fuels. This is not disputable. It is known to be a fact.

treewojima posted...

I'd say it's primarily natural gas with renewables helping out. Gas is more expensive as an initial investment but between fracking and offshore rigs, the infrastructure is already up and running and produces greater returns than coal mines, plus without the stigma of being dirty and incredibly unhealthy and dangerous to the workers.

Jaghave posted...

natural gas is not renewable (which is why is out pricing coal at the moment)

Natural gas is part of it and thankfully it's cleaner than coal AFAIK, but if you do some googling you'll see that the coal companies also reference renewables when they talk about why they are going bankrupt. And Bloomberg just today or yesterday published a piece on how renewables are getting extremely cheap, even cheaper than before, even without subsidies.

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What is a climate extremist?

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treewojima posted...

Duncanwii posted...

treewojima posted...

pls posted...

treewojima posted...

We don't need to go full WSHTF doomsday prepper, but we should at least acknowledge that it's happening instead of the official US policy of "nah, don't be silly, more clean coal pls"

Official US policy is, thankfully, ineffective at keeping the coal companies afloat. The largest coal companies in the US have been going bankrupt because they cannot compete with renewables.

I'd say it's primarily natural gas with renewables helping out. Gas is more expensive as an initial investment but between fracking and offshore rigs, the infrastructure is already up and running and produces greater returns than coal mines, plus without the stigma of being dirty and incredibly unhealthy and dangerous to the workers.

You mean the same fracking thats poisoning the water supply and giving people cancer? We should be doing less of it, not more.

I didn't say I liked fracking or even drilling, just that it's become competitive with coal. I'd rather have fracking and natural gas plants than underground and strip coal mines that give miners black lung and pump filthy soot into the air and coal ash into the water supply.

People choose to be miners. The people damaged by fracking are normal people whose lives are destroyed by this system. I cannot in good faith support it.
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I'm totally down for more renewables, or even non-renewable but clean sources that have been passed over like modern fission reactors

Let's build more thorium reactors and hydroelectric plants (though those have to be carefully placed to not fuck up the local ecosystem)

treewojima posted...

I'm totally down for more renewables, or even non-renewable but clean sources that have been passed over like modern fission reactors

Let's build more thorium reactors and hydroelectric plants (though those have to be carefully placed to not fuck up the local ecosystem)

Solar and more trees would do the trick, even if we kept gas or some coal around for peak power needs.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/17/world/trillion-trees-climate-change-intl-scn/index.html

Because his research is currently under review for publication in the journal Science, he says he can't share exact figures of how much extra CO2 could be stored by those trees. But he points to numbers from Project Drawdown -- a non-profit that ranks climate solutions by the amount of CO2 they could remove from the atmosphere. Its number one ranked solution -- managing the release of HFC greenhouse gases from fridges and air conditioners -- could reduce atmospheric CO2 by 90 billion tons. Crowther says planting 1.2 trillion trees would give a reduction "way above" that figure.

To put that in context, global CO2 emissions are around 37 billion tons per year.

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